Well, one of our amazing developers IAmTheOneTheyCallNeo has gained Recognized Developer status now after a long time of contributions to the HTC Rezound. I am sure he is responsible for at least 75% of the ROMs in the development section. We all thank Chad0989 but we are forgetting the other very critical developer that has made our device live on with great support.
Just give a shout out to Neo and say thanks!
to quote neo,
"diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie."
Very cool Neo! Thanks for your contributions and KUTGW!!
Congrats Neo!!!
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Congrats Neo!!!
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i guess nemo kept swimming. ^_^ congrats buddy. Now, get back to work.
Who is this Neo guy everyone is talking about?
Congrats buddy!
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Who is this Neo guy everyone is talking about?
Congrats buddy!
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Dude? He's the one
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Dude? He's the one
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That they call neo
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Congrats man! :laugh:
Thanks All
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Thanks All
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Why, Mr. Anderson? Why do you do it? Why get up? Why keep fighting? Do you believe you're fighting for something? For more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is? Do you even know? Is it freedom? Or truth? Perhaps peace? Could it be for love? Illusions, Mr. Anderson. Vagaries of perception. The temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose. And all of them as artificial as the Matrix itself. Although, only a human mind could invent something as insipid as love. You must be able to see it, Mr. Anderson. You must know it by now. You can't win. It's pointless to keep fighting. Why, Mr. Anderson, Why? Why do you persist?
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Why, Mr. Anderson? Why do you do it? Why get up? Why keep fighting? Do you believe you're fighting for something? For more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is? Do you even know? Is it freedom? Or truth? Perhaps peace? Could it be for love? Illusions, Mr. Anderson. Vagaries of perception. The temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose. And all of them as artificial as the Matrix itself. Although, only a human mind could invent something as insipid as love. You must be able to see it, Mr. Anderson. You must know it by now. You can't win. It's pointless to keep fighting. Why, Mr. Anderson, Why? Why do you persist?
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Love it
I love how tight this community here is. It's gonna be a sad sad day when I leave HTC. Some of us devs included were DINC users.
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Congrats Neo! Looking forward to following your work for the foreseeable future. Now, if you'll excuse me, I just got home and I'm off to flash Tron 2.0.
Sometimes you have to be smarter than your smartphone.
W00t w00t! Congrats to one of the coolest dudes on the interwebs!
Neo. Definitely deserves an award for the most creatively hard to pronounce rom names I jest. I've always loved his work though. Always has a creative spin to throw on things to keep it interesting. Congrats on RC/RD.
Ironically enough... The matrix is on right now on HBO.
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Hey neo just wondering what do you think you're going to after the Rezound
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Hey neo just wondering what do you think you're going to after the Rezound
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Honestly have no idea. Still have a year with the Rezound
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As do I. I love HTC but I also loath and despise them and I really want to follow some of the devs from here so I'm interested in seeing where Chad, stang and yourself end up at manufacturer wise
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Canj i isntall the enw Android 4.0 in my touch pad if so how can i do it?
at this time, no, you can not.
Use breyers....extra creamy.
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Hang in there because two of the best ICS devs just tweeted that they are close to a release. See Ben and Jerry's twitter for the real scoop.
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What is the their account name?
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Hang in there because two of the best ICS devs just tweeted that they are close to a release. See Ben and Jerry's twitter for the real scoop.
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Haha, made my day
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Yes, you can. Throw it on there and let us know how it goes.
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Yes, you can. Throw it on there and let us know how it goes.
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i am sure he cannot tell that using his Touchpad...as it will be no longer is functional state....
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Haha, made my day
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I didn't post Ben and Jerry's twitter account because I did not want a bunch of noobs pestering them for an eta. Devs hate that. Just Google "Ben and Jerry ice cream sandwich" and I am sure you will get the proper responses.
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The appropriate response is always "two weeks".
Can't wait for ice port to tp.
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I am simply dumbfounded by the people who don't get the Ben and Jerry reference. Our poor poor world if these kind of people continue to survive...
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I am simply dumbfounded by the people who don't get the Ben and Jerry reference. Our poor poor world if these kind of people continue to survive...
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because? 10chars
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I am simply dumbfounded by the people who don't get the Ben and Jerry reference. Our poor poor world if these kind of people continue to survive...
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I know I was being a joker, but you have to give some folks the benefit of the doubt because they may not live in a country that has the priviledge of receiving Ben and Jerry's. It is available in Costa Rica where I am living, but not in the variety that is available in the US. I knew there would be someone wanting to find them on twitter though. Now we have to see where they live.
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ty bkmo.. With BnJ recently just selling their products an hardly known by anyone close to me, its fun. Bet there were quite a few of them who fell for that
but there are other people who dont know bricks about BnJ.. And such statements as from are just insults for people who obviously arent privileged enough to get all the great goods from some whatever locally available tradingmarks as our lil'ol highnmighty Treello
I came in to this topic in hopes of some sort of news on ICS. Now I'm just hungry. :-(
how to update mi gs2 to 2.3.6 thanks
You need a goat, an altar, and a ceremonial blade. Once the goat is on the altar, you'll need to sacrifice it to the gods of Reading, Comprehension, and Common Sense. They'll imbue you with their basic skills such as reading, in which you'll then use that skill to actually find your answer on the first page of this forum.
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i can find it
autonomous-inc said:
You need a goat, an altar, and a ceremonial blade. Once the goat is on the altar, you'll need to sacrifice it to the gods of Reading, Comprehension, and Common Sense. They'll imbue you with their basic skills such as reading, in which you'll then use that skill to actually find your answer on the first page of this forum.
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Priceless!
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x.Orville.x said:
i can find it
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Redenbocker
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x.Orville.x said:
i can find it
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Then why'd you waste our time with this stupid thread?
because if someone can help me i can appreciate stupid
I would help you, but that goes against my firm belief that you can't fix stupid.
But you can make it go away...
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"Give a man a blanket and you can keep him warm for a night. Light a man on fire and you keep him warm for the rest of his life."
Time to bust out the flamethrower...
Entropy512 said:
"Give a man a blanket and you can keep him warm for a night. Light a man on fire and you keep him warm for the rest of his life."
Time to bust out the flamethrower...
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Wow, I didn't think it would take 24 hours for that to have to get used again. Guess this is a pretty well behaved forum ;-)
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Entropy512 said:
"Give a man a blanket and you can keep him warm for a night. Light a man on fire and you keep him warm for the rest of his life."
Time to bust out the flamethrower...
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that doesn't make sense..
I am pretty sure you can re-use a blanket...
Lmao you guy's are funny.
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Beer + drinking + reading this post = bad timing!
x.Orville.x said:
how to update mi gs2 to 2.3.6 thanks
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I appreciate the enthusiasm you put into making this thread, but Im affraid that we're all out of upgrades tonight. Please try back in 24 hours. Thanks.
Hello peoples!
As our boards have been a bit slow (for the exception of our amazing off-topic thread ), I began playing around on the Android General forums. I came across a thread a while back from an XDA member who creates custom signatures and custom ROM posters. I have had him make me a few (I like simple, clean sigs). He recently made one as a gif that has flashing lights on a car. I've been so impressed with his work that I wanted to share the link with you guys. I know we all like having sigs, and thought maybe you guys would like something tailored to your likes and interests. I also wanted to bring this to the attention of our devs, in case they want a badass ROM poster (or could be mod posters, etc) for their work.
If you are interested, check out his work HERE.
Plus, this gives me eye candy whilst reading the threads. Get on it!
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Hello peoples!
As our boards have been a bit slow (for the exception of our amazing off-topic thread ), I began playing around on the Android General forums. I came across a thread a while back from an XDA member who creates custom signatures and custom ROM posters. I have had him make me a few (I like simple, clean sigs). He recently made one as a gif that has flashing lights on a car. I've been so impressed with his work that I wanted to share the link with you guys. I know we all like having sigs, and thought maybe you guys would like something tailored to your likes and interests. I also wanted to bring this to the attention of our devs, in case they want a badass ROM poster (or could be mod posters, etc) for their work.
If you are interested, check out his work HERE.
Plus, this gives me eye candy whilst reading the threads. Get on it!
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Are we not "Lovely" all of a sudden???...lol Just tugging your ponytail a bit..thanks for the tip.
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kenjesse said:
Are we not "Lovely" all of a sudden???...lol Just tugging your ponytail a bit..thanks for the tip.
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Hahahaha yeah, I figured in a forum that is 99% men, maaaaybe you guys wouldn't want to be called "lovelies."
And "tugging your ponytail a bit" = awesome! I got a kick out of that.
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Hahahaha yeah, I figured in a forum that is 99% men, maaaaybe you guys wouldn't want to be called "lovelies."
And "tugging your ponytail a bit" = awesome! I got a kick out of that.
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I hope your favorite hockey team is the Red Wibgs right?
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trafalger888 said:
I hope your favorite hockey team is the Red Wibgs right?
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maybe its the Lightning? just a hint from the HUGE EFFIN LIGHTNING BOLT lol and theres also the rays soo....
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maybe its the Lightning? just a hint from the HUGE EFFIN LIGHTNING BOLT lol and theres also the rays soo....
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Maybe...but the wings are the greatest so I have to say it plus I live a few hours from the Joe so.....I had to put it out there
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Maybe...but the wings are the greatest so I have to say it plus I live a few hours from the Joe so.....I had to put it out there
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well the devils are obv the best lol i hope we beat the rangers tonight like last time....
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I hope your favorite hockey team is the Red Wibgs right?
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maybe its the Lightning? just a hint from the HUGE EFFIN LIGHTNING BOLT lol and theres also the rays soo....
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HAHAHAHAHA yes, yes... my favorite hockey team is the TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING!! Antp121, you are quite observant.
And, really? Really guys? The Red Wings? The Devils? How can you *not* love the Bolts?? I mean, we have Steven Stamkos! Stammer! He drops the hammer! 50 goals!
Although, my boys are not making me too happy tonight. In the 3rd and we're down 7-2 against the Sabres. The Sabres. We need Garon back.
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HAHAHAHAHA yes, yes... my favorite hockey team is the TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING!! Antp121, you are quite observant.
And, really? Really guys? The Red Wings? The Devils? How can you *not* love the Bolts?? I mean, we have Steven Stamkos! Stammer! He drops the hammer! 50 goals!
Although, my boys are not making me too happy tonight. In the 3rd and we're down 7-2 against the Sabres. The Sabres. We need Garon back.
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Yeah we have had a horrible second half really....plagued by injuries and its killing us
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Bolts are my local team but I have to admit I'm a hawks fan. (Originally from Chicago)
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Bolts are my local team but I have to admit I'm a hawks fan. (Originally from Chicago)
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YAY for another Floridian!!!
And I guess I'll forgive you for liking the Hawks. At least you don't like the Caps.
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YAY for another Floridian!!!
And I guess I'll forgive you for liking the Hawks. At least you don't like the Caps.
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YUCK! The Caps and Ovechkin double yuck...I think I just threw up a little in my mouth....sorry
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also Bryzgalov and Lundqvist Marty, Kovalchuk, Parise, Elias, Zidlicky devils all da wayyy
Bryz is a flyer!
and the flyers are my team!
so now I hate you! lol
I guess I actually hate u ALL since ya's don't like the flyers
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CadenH said:
Bolts are my local team but I have to admit I'm a hawks fan. (Originally from Chicago)
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Well I'm with ya. True to my chi-town roots ALL MY FAVORITE TEAMS ARE FROM CHICAGO.
Cyanogenmod
ashclepdia said:
Bryz is a flyer!
and the flyers are my team!
so now I hate you! lol
I guess I actually hate u ALL since ya's don't like the flyers
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sorry ash, its just you beat us the last time we played you (devils of course) and its not that bryz is bad, he a ****ing monster and Marty is getting really old. btw ive met and spoken to marty. his son was on my baseball team and he asked me how long until it was over. i didnt realize at first and then i was like awww **** thats martin brodeur!
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HAHAHAHAHA yes, yes... my favorite hockey team is the TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING!! Antp121, you are quite observant.
And, really? Really guys? The Red Wings? The Devils? How can you *not* love the Bolts?? I mean, we have Steven Stamkos! Stammer! He drops the hammer! 50 goals!
Although, my boys are not making me too happy tonight. In the 3rd and we're down 7-2 against the Sabres. The Sabres. We need Garon back.
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+1 to that Go bolts and any other tampa bay team
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kennyb6 said:
+1 to that Go bolts and any other tampa bay team
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YAY for another Floridian!! Hello, Kenny!
And you know... knowing that WasabiWa83 (who makes the custom sigs/rom posters) is a hockey fan, I'm pretty sure he would totally be ok with this thread becoming a hockey thread. Not gonna lie... I love it.
Can we get a baseball thread? I went to a Rays spring training game last week. Now I'm sooooo ready for baseball season!
Will u marry me?
Cyanogenmod
Um to the chick lol.
Cyanogenmod
This has NEVER been done for a phone yet, so here we go
we all come together and make one HUGE rom, with tweaks themes and everything you could think of together.
Everyone could be apart of making it, and we could use the devs/themers/scripter/helpers here and make this happen.
no reason to not make somthing huge jammed with features.
Answer the Poll Above and tell me what you think
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Is this happening BEFORE or AFTER June 15th?
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Is this happening BEFORE or AFTER June 15th?
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good question
Go work on sense 4 damnit!
Seriously though, I still want to see some ability to change the haptic feedback. I can't remember what rom it was but it was one of the first I put on the phone, it had an option to adjust the feedback on all things vibratory. So that's what I'd want to see.
I'm not a dev but there has to be something I can help
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Go work on sense 4 damnit!
Seriously though, I still want to see some ability to change the haptic feedback. I can't remember what rom it was but it was one of the first I put on the phone, it had an option to adjust the feedback on all things vibratory. So that's what I'd want to see.
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Sense 3.5 had the awesome haptic feedback
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I'm still learning photoshop or I'd gladly help with theming.
Dark Nightmare said:
I'm still learning photoshop or I'd gladly help with theming.
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I could work with you...
And I'm up for it! Add me to the dev list
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ziggy46 said:
I could work with you...
And I'm up for it! Add me to the dev list
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Thanks ziggy, once things get going with ziggy, I'm down for theming.
My gmail: [email protected]
If u guys didn't know I'm a graphic designer. I work for a decent size company in Connecticut. My boss saw my portfolio n hired me right away, I should be able to help u guys some some way ?
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If u guys didn't know I'm a graphic designer. I work for a decent size company in Connecticut. My boss saw my portfolio n hired me right away, I should be able to help u guys some some way ?
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You would be great for alot of things.
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ziggy46 said:
You would be great for alot of things.
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Really? Awesome ^.^
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I would like to see sports star, Craig, silent, heyjoe, the intelligent, rms, apaquette a part of this project and working together to try to bring sense 4, miui, cm9 and other awesome roms. Something different than what we already have. I know you guys can do it.
Bc of the developers we have now working together it feels like it brings unity in the amaze community. I like this. Proud to be an amaze owner!
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So the Lg has been out almost 3 months now. Yet no ROMS for it really. When are the 4.1 or 4.2 ROMS coming out so I can get this old ICS off my phone
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So the Lg has been out almost 3 months now. Yet no ROMS for it really. When are the 4.1 or 4.2 ROMS coming out so I can get this old ICS off my phone
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As soon as you find out, well you let us all know? :banghead::banghead::banghead:
There are people working on stuff but we have no ETA's because:
1) we don't ask for eta's here, it's against xda etiquette
2) their hands are tied and they are working without source for the most part, it's hard work
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As soon as you find out, well you let us all know? :banghead::banghead::banghead:
There are people working on stuff but we have no ETA's because:
1) we don't ask for eta's here, it's against xda etiquette
2) their hands are tied and they are working without source for the most part, it's hard work
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I wasn't sure if I should have responded to this thread... I didn't want to come off as rude... but nothing else came to mind, so I abstained. :laugh:
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I wasn't sure if I should have responded to this thread... I didn't want to come off as rude... but nothing else came to mind, so I abstained. :laugh:
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I should have...falcon, I wasn't trying to be a douche, forgive?
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falcon26 said:
So the Lg has been out almost 3 months now. Yet no ROMS for it really. When are the 4.1 or 4.2 ROMS coming out so I can get this old ICS off my phone
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What calendar are you using ?
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What calendar are you using ?
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Mayan.
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Mayan.
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yeah, that one didn't work either. The world never ended...of course I am still married, so same thing.
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Lol. I like you guys. Turned a rather pointless and redundant thread, no offense, into a good laugh.
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I wasn't sure if I should have responded to this thread... I didn't want to come off as rude... but nothing else came to mind, so I abstained. :laugh:
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Same here lol. So many things unsaid haha
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Wow I had no idea it was such an offensive question my apologies
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Same here lol. So many things unsaid haha
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Haha, I'm liking this community, fun and entertaining people.
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Wow I had no idea it was such an offensive question my apologies
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It's ok, we are giving you a hard time because these kind of posts are frowned upon.
You may not have had such intentions, but it comes off as unappreciative of devs work and pace.
The devs will take care of us. Just give them their time :good:
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You may not have had such intentions, but it comes off as unappreciative of devs work and pace.
The devs will take care of us. Just give them their time :good:
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ROM wasn't built in a day.
Ba-dum-bum.
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ROM wasn't built in a day.
Ba-dum-bum.
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You accidentally a letter there. Jk.
But clever.
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Wow I had no idea it was such an offensive question my apologies
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my bad, dude, I was just bored. It's all good!
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When I had my Sony phone most of the users in the respective forums were rude and know-it-alls. I'm liking the camaraderie in this community much better.
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When I had my Sony phone most of the users in the respective forums were rude and know-it-alls. I'm liking the camaraderie in this community much better.
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Just wait til more ROMs are released. Then we will see this level of comradeship turn into a mutiny petition signing. People always pick the dev they like the best and make gangs and such.
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Just wait til more ROMs are released. Then we will see this level of comradeship turn into a mutiny petition signing. People always pick the dev they like the best and make gangs and such.
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Ah, spent some time in the AT&T Galaxy S-II forums, did ya?
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Ah, spent some time in the AT&T Galaxy S-II forums, did ya?
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XDA is generally a huge circlejerk of fanboys and noobs.
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XDA is generally a huge circlejerk of fanboys and noobs.
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Hey! I resemble those remarks. :cyclops:
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When I had my Sony phone most of the users in the respective forums were rude and know-it-alls. I'm liking the camaraderie in this community much better.
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X10?
lol, that place was nice... then a dev was acused of stealing another's work and ...stuff... hit the fan.