[Q] AT&T or T-Mobile for the One? - AT&T HTC One (M7)

Which carrier should I choose if I want to get the most out of the One, using two lines, taking into question data limits and speeds, and monthly billing of course. My fiance wants to get phones for the two of us and her contract will be up in March with AT&T, should she stay on AT&T and add my onto a shared plan or should we just take our business to T-Mobile?

Ask people you know in your area if they have tmobile and how is it.
Depends if your having any issues with ATT. If not then stay.
Because tmobile customer support <

expertzero1 said:
Ask people you know in your area if they have tmobile and how is it.
Depends if your having any issues with ATT. If not then stay.
Because tmobile customer support <
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I'm in Buffalo, New York, I just moved here so I don't know too many people yet, my biggest eyebrow raiser is that T-Mobile has unlimited data for $160~ and AT&T only has a shared plan with 4GB for $140~. I'm just wondering about the speeds between the two, even then, it can't be thaaat bad can it?cI'm really looking into T-Mobile, but if the service is ****...no dice.

PapaRhino said:
I'm in Buffalo, New York, I just moved here so I don't know too many people yet, my biggest eyebrow raiser is that T-Mobile has unlimited data for $160~ and AT&T only has a shared plan with 4GB for $140~. I'm just wondering about the speeds between the two, even then, it can't be thaaat bad can it?cI'm really looking into T-Mobile, but if the service is ****...no dice.
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If you can afford it, stay with att if your getting good signal and speeds.
If you want you can do tmobile prepaid for 30 bucks a month as another option, as a trial
100 minutes, texts unlimited i think, and 5 gb of data for 30 bucks.

expertzero1 said:
If you can afford it, stay with att if your getting good signal and speeds.
If you want you can do tmobile prepaid for 30 bucks a month as another option, as a trial
100 minutes, texts unlimited i think, and 5 gb of data for 30 bucks.
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It seems like AT&T has way better 4G LTE coverage than T-Mobile in the area, so I think we'll just share 4GB and hope for the best, if anything we can upgrade if we reallly need to, and we'll be on Wi-Fi a lot of the time I'm sure anyways, thanks for the replies

PapaRhino said:
It seems like AT&T has way better 4G LTE coverage than T-Mobile in the area, so I think we'll just share 4GB and hope for the best, if anything we can upgrade if we reallly need to, and we'll be on Wi-Fi a lot of the time I'm sure anyways, thanks for the replies
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While your at it, 10 gigs for 180 lol!!

expertzero1 said:
While your at it, 10 gigs for 180 lol!!
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LOL, that's a little too much for our taste, she pays $75~ on AT&T for her non-Smartphone so she wants it to be about the same if not less for each line when we upgrade.

I for one can vouch that AT&T has superior service compared to T-Mobile. T-Mobile has bad coverage even with 3G. My girlfriend uses T-Mobile and she doesn't get LTE anywhere around here, and a unreasonable (about 10%, and that's in a suburban area, not country) amount of the time she can't send texts because of bad reception. Lots of dropped calls as well from her compared to extremely few compared to my friends who have AT&T.

T mobile will have its 4g lte network rolled out by the end of the year... their pre paid plans are the best...can't beat $70 a month unlimited everything!!!
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I tried T-Mobile with my N4. Their network is pretty good if you spend almost all of your time in a decent sized urban area. But if you travel on the road at all or you live in an AT&T LTE coverage area, it isn't even remotely close in coverage - AT&T is worth the extra money. Once you go outside a certain distance from a city, it's as if T-Mobile never existed. They're cheap for a reason!

oh yeah dont forget the ATT version is getting blocked from some of the extra HTC features http://htcsource.com/2013/02/htc-ge...source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#prettyPhoto

djq said:
oh yeah dont forget the ATT version is getting blocked from some of the extra HTC features http://htcsource.com/2013/02/htc-ge...source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#prettyPhoto
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That blows. Might be worth getting the unlocked version and forgoing LTE................. :-\

also from what i heard HTC is giving away free 2 year 25GB dropbox accounts with the HTC ONE but AT&T has opted out once again so if you get the ATT version you wont get that feature either.....https://www.dropbox.com/help/249/en

djq said:
oh yeah dont forget the ATT version is getting blocked from some of the extra HTC features http://htcsource.com/2013/02/htc-ge...source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#prettyPhoto
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Don't forget we are on XDA and a custom ROM will fix this issue
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djq said:
also from what i heard HTC is giving away free 2 year 25GB dropbox accounts with the HTC ONE but AT&T has opted out once again so if you get the ATT version you wont get that feature either.....https://www.dropbox.com/help/249/en
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Read above
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You can't ask people who are in different parts of the world which carrier to pick.. that all depends on; Where you live, your budget, and how much of data/talk you use.
AT&T works great in some places where T-Mobile don't. If you get great coverage with ATT far as data and talk then i suggest staying with ATT
T-Mobile won't have LTE till later this year, and when they do it will be in a small amount of cities.. most likely major cities first.. LTE > HSPA+
AT&T has the 2nd largest LTE coverage and still improving it.
I suggest sticking with AT&T if you get great coverage and haven't had any problems. If its not broken don't fix it.
If you want a budget choice you can always get Straight Talk. you'll have the choice between which network you want to use under them

Lol where all you live that's you're saying T-Mobile has no coverage? I live in Los Angeles and I get reception everywhere I go. I even get reception high up in the mountains at big bear. Only place I don't get great reception is when I'm at my job, which is a warehouse with like 2 feet of concrete walls and steel everywhere. I get better reception than anyone on att that I know. Don't get me started with sprint. My coworker has the evo lte and he never sees lte service.
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When T-Mobile suppose to drop this beast

Hey AT&T and T-Mobile Americans... do you guys know if it might be possible to change the LTE frequencies of the One?
I'm going to get the European version, but I might spend 1-2 semesters studying in the US at some point in the future, where I will probably still have the One.
So it would be pretty sweet if I could flash another radio (or even do something easier) and use LTE in America as well.

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That blows. Might be worth getting the unlocked version and forgoing LTE................. :-\
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Maybe the t-mobile one will have LTE on band 4 and 17, thier galaxy s3 LTE just passed through FFC and it has both band 4 and band 17... And if you root and flash custom rom wouldnt that take away the restrictions?

maxtcee said:
When T-Mobile suppose to drop this beast
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Expected to fall between the weeks of the 15th and the 22nd. Assuming from HTC terms and conditions regarding their 100 cash back that I read from their site, to be able to qualify for the cash back, the device must be purchased before the 31st of march.
But this is just my assumptions. And I hope I'm right because I can't wait any longer!
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S3 Early US Adopter on AT&T, questions?

So I have the S3 on pre-order and this will be my 1st international unlocked phone. I currently have the iPhone 4 on AT&T US.
When I get the S3 do I simply throw the sim in and call AT&T to activate? Are there any hidden fees when activating a new phone not sold via AT&T?
Is there anything I need to know other than that, like will my phone not be eligible for any US based software upgrades/services, etc.. Will the charger have an adapter for the US? Basically are there any negatives to importing it now rather than waiting for it to hit the states?
Thanks!
Joe
Plus 1------i am in the exact same boat.
Pop the sim in and that's it, the euro charger wont work so you'll need an adapter or just use the usb cable to charge. Your updates will come from xda.
+2.
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Pop the sim in and that's it, the euro charger wont work so you'll need an adapter or just use the usb cable to charge. Your updates will come from xda.
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Thanks for the info, would we need to root the phone to get the updates via xda or can we keep everything stock and still be ok?
So in terms of the sim, I'm guessing if you had something other than a micro-sim you would need to cut it or order another from AT&T.
You may need to enter in at&t's apn settings to get data and mms working.
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So I have the S3 on pre-order and this will be my 1st international unlocked phone. I currently have the iPhone 4 on AT&T US.
When I get the S3 do I simply throw the sim in and call AT&T to activate? Are there any hidden fees when activating a new phone not sold via AT&T?
Is there anything I need to know other than that, like will my phone not be eligible for any US based software upgrades/services, etc.. Will the charger have an adapter for the US? Basically are there any negatives to importing it now rather than waiting for it to hit the states?
Thanks!
Joe
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There's only positives by importing phones from Europe:
It won't be in the AT&T system as they don't have the IMEI number ( good for gophone users too)
You will receive updates first like Europeans and not wait for US carriers
It will get a lot of developer support since its the international version
Depending on where you import the phone from ( where you purchase it) they might include an adapter for charging like Handtec.
Soon as you put your sim card in youll be able to make and receive calls and also receive and send sms. You might have to put your AT&T apn settings to get mms and data like someone else mentioned. Only "bad" thing about importing is you won't have AT&T support such as warranty and stuff. But otherwise it's definitely worth it . This will be my 3rd import besides the GS2 I9100 and the international Galaxy note.
Go to AT&T store have them change the network settings on their end, for some reason is different if ur not using the iPhone.
youre all forgetting the best part.
AT&T smartphone plan = 30 dollars
AT&T non smartphone plan =10 (if you have a texting package, and 15 if you dont)
youre looking to save 20 bucks a month on data. just let them know youre using a flip phone, if they ask for IMEI number, give them one off a flip phone (if you have one)
theres no difference whatsoever except for price, so you might as well take your free $20 a month. ive been doing this for the past 4 years
thats not a bad idea.....but i want to be able to swap between my Note and the S3. so i need to keep the data plan i have on the note.
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youre all forgetting the best part.
AT&T smartphone plan = 30 dollars
AT&T non smartphone plan =10 (if you have a texting package, and 15 if you dont)
youre looking to save 20 bucks a month on data. just let them know youre using a flip phone, if they ask for IMEI number, give them one off a flip phone (if you have one)
theres no difference whatsoever except for price, so you might as well take your free $20 a month. ive been doing this for the past 4 years
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Okay but if we do that, are we going to get HSPA speeds ???
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manny05 said:
Okay but if we do that, are we going to get HSPA speeds ???
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Correct. The max you get out of this phone in the states is H+. The US version of the S3 will however provide LTE bands.
soraxd said:
youre all forgetting the best part.
AT&T smartphone plan = 30 dollars
AT&T non smartphone plan =10 (if you have a texting package, and 15 if you dont)
youre looking to save 20 bucks a month on data. just let them know youre using a flip phone, if they ask for IMEI number, give them one off a flip phone (if you have one)
theres no difference whatsoever except for price, so you might as well take your free $20 a month. ive been doing this for the past 4 years
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yup. AT&T medianet plan is great. unlimited data for $10.
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yup. AT&T medianet plan is great. unlimited data for $10.
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I'm just curious to know that if I sign up for that media net plan am I going to HSPA speed? Or at least 3G speed.
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manny05 said:
I'm just curious to know that if I sign up for that media net plan am I going to HSPA speed? Or at least 3G speed.
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see above post "The max you get out of this phone in the states is H+"
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I'm just curious to know that if I sign up for that media net plan am I going to HSPA speed? Or at least 3G speed.
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My sgs2 ran on hspa+ speeds. Roughly 4-6mb/s download speeds. This is around the San Francisco Bay Area.
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I could def live with that.
yyhd said:
My sgs2 ran on hspa+ speeds. Roughly 4-6mb/s download speeds. This is around the San Francisco Bay Area.
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yyhd said:
My sgs2 ran on hspa+ speeds. Roughly 4-6mb/s download speeds. This is around the San Francisco Bay Area.
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In Chicago the best I got with the Note LTE is around 9-11mbs, LTE sucks bull nipples in Chicagoland.
Yup AT&T LTE is **** around my neck of the woods (city) too.
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bbgt2 said:
In Chicago the best I got with the Note LTE is around 9-11mbs, LTE sucks bull nipples in Chicagoland.
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I live in the city and my X gets around 35.
Its going back though.
Might get a GSM Gnex on TMo or get this International S3.

Using AT&T One on T-mobile

I was a bit impatient and jumped the gun and bought the ONE at Walmart for $148 with a 2 year contract. But already during my first week I realize I'm using up my minutes rather quickly and being limited kinda sucks.
I definitely want to keep the phone cause its flawless and I keep reading about other peoples flawed phone and I already added SquareTrade insurance.
I was thinking of paying the early termination fee of $325 which makes the phone only $473 which is cheaper than I could get it from TMobile.
Question is would I be able to add this phone to T Mobile prepaid plans and not be stuck on Edge network for data?
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shook187 said:
I was a bit impatient and jumped the gun and bought the ONE at Walmart for $148 with a 2 year contract. But already during my first week I realize I'm using up my minutes rather quickly and being limited kinda sucks.
I definitely want to keep the phone cause its flawless and I keep reading about other peoples flawed phone and I already added SquareTrade insurance.
I was thinking of paying the early termination fee of $325 which makes the phone only $473 which is cheaper than I could get it from TMobile.
Question is would I be able to add this phone to T Mobile prepaid plans and not be stuck on Edge network for data?
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Depends if you're in a refarmed market. I live in one and I get mostly HSPA+ (4G) with pockets of Edge.
Does anyone know if the At&t HTC one will get Ota updates if you use t-mobile?
dark_light said:
Does anyone know if the At&t HTC one will get Ota updates if you use t-mobile?
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Just flash a stock ROM with the update implemented in it.
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shook187 said:
I was a bit impatient and jumped the gun and bought the ONE at Walmart for $148 with a 2 year contract. But already during my first week I realize I'm using up my minutes rather quickly and being limited kinda sucks.
I definitely want to keep the phone cause its flawless and I keep reading about other peoples flawed phone and I already added SquareTrade insurance.
I was thinking of paying the early termination fee of $325 which makes the phone only $473 which is cheaper than I could get it from TMobile.
Question is would I be able to add this phone to T Mobile prepaid plans and not be stuck on Edge network for data?
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Why not just use straight talk for $45/month get unl everything with 2gb of data? should be amble. AND the best part is that your still on the ATT network and dont have to worry about being on 2G if not in 1900 refarmed area which is hard to find these days
Becool0130 said:
Why not just use straight talk for $45/month get unl everything with 2gb of data? should be amble. AND the best part is that your still on the ATT network and dont have to worry about being on 2G if not in 1900 refarmed area which is hard to find these days
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That sounds like a good plan I'll look into it didn't think of it
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Becool0130 said:
Why not just use straight talk for $45/month get unl everything with 2gb of data? should be amble. AND the best part is that your still on the ATT network and dont have to worry about being on 2G if not in 1900 refarmed area which is hard to find these days
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That sounds like a good plan I'll look into it didn't think of it
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Don't do it - the data speeds on at&t through Straight Talk are HORRENDOUSLY capped - I had them for over a year where I didn't have T-Mobile coverage... An absolute headache! Most of the at&t MVNOs truly suck if you want data... I've heard of people not being speed capped on Red Pocket though.
EtherealRemnant said:
Don't do it - the data speeds on at&t through Straight Talk are HORRENDOUSLY capped - I had them for over a year where I didn't have T-Mobile coverage... An absolute headache! Most of the at&t MVNOs truly suck if you want data... I've heard of people not being speed capped on Red Pocket though.
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Really? Their plan is $60 for unl everything with 2GB of data. I think he is planning to SAVE money with the $45 plan otherwise he would have went with ATT from the start
$45 and $60 for the same allotment.. which one sounds better?
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Really? Their plan is $60 for unl everything with 2GB of data. I think he is planning to SAVE money with the $45 plan otherwise he would have went with ATT from the start
$45 and $60 for the same allotment.. which one sounds better?
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Go read the horror stories about the capped data speeds on Straight Talk. I'll give you a great example. My dad did a speed test right next to me, both of us around -90dBm on HSPA... I shot up to 3Mbps and then was slammed down to around 800kbps consistently while he was running upwards of 8 and 9 on the downstream... Even further evidence of the cap? My upstream was 1900Kbps and his was 1950. Both of us using Captivates, same radio, same ROM. Only difference is he had post-paid at&t (and thus was able to use at&t's postpaid APN).
But by all means, its worth a try - no contract and all - good luck dealing with customer service to get your phone working in the first place though, they are worse than Sprint. :good:
Another option to consider is VoIP... If you have a Google Voice number, you can set up SIP. Its not the easiest thing in the world to do but you get unlimited calls... There are many different SIP solutions in the Play Store.
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Go read the horror stories about the capped data speeds on Straight Talk. I'll give you a great example. My dad did a speed test right next to me, both of us around -90dBm on HSPA... I shot up to 3Mbps and then was slammed down to around 800kbps consistently while he was running upwards of 8 and 9 on the downstream... Even further evidence of the cap? My upstream was 1900Kbps and his was 1950. Both of us using Captivates, same radio, same ROM. Only difference is he had post-paid at&t (and thus was able to use at&t's postpaid APN).
But by all means, its worth a try - no contract and all - good luck dealing with customer service to get your phone working in the first place though, they are worse than Sprint. :good:
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Well, at the end of the day you get what you pay for right? If cost is not a concern to you then go with att and if it is then go with straight talk.
Better yet, why not just switch to T-mobile?
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Well, at the end of the day you get what you pay for right? If cost is not a concern to you then go with att and if it is then go with straight talk.
Better yet, why not just switch to T-mobile?
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I learned my lesson the hard way with Straight Talk but if he takes his One and puts it on T-Mobile, he will be on EDGE most of the time unless he's in a refarmed 1900MHz area or has LTE. at&t's version doesn't support HSPA over AWS.
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I learned my lesson the hard way with Straight Talk but if he takes his One and puts it on T-Mobile, he will be on EDGE most of the time unless he's in a refarmed 1900MHz area or has LTE. at&t's version doesn't support HSPA over AWS.
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I meant to return his phone then get a t-mobile one That was his original plan afterall.
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I meant to return his phone then get a t-mobile one That was his original plan afterall.
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Its was. But I'm tempted to keep this phone out right for only $473
Becool0130 said:
Really? Their plan is $60 for unl everything with 2GB of data. I think he is planning to SAVE money with the $45 plan otherwise he would have went with ATT from the start
$45 and $60 for the same allotment.. which one sounds better?
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Yes I'm a cheapo...I'm paying $69.99 for 450mins and 3GB of data. I'm using Google Voice for text because AT&T wants an extra $20 for text and unlimited mobile calling. :crying: To AT&T's credit, the network is the best I've been on.
But yes, i'm looking for a cheap plan...I was thinking T-mobile's $50 prepay
shook187 said:
Its was. But I'm tempted to keep this phone out right for only $473
Yes I'm a cheapo...I'm paying $69.99 for 450mins and 3GB of data. I'm using Google Voice for text because AT&T wants an extra $20 for text and unlimited mobile calling. :crying: To AT&T's credit, the network is the best I've been on.
But yes, i'm looking for a cheap plan...I was thinking T-mobile's $50 prepay
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If you are looking to save over the long term, return the AT&T model and get the T-Mobile model... you can use it with Straight Talk (T-Mobile BYOD) or with direct T-Mobile. T-Mobile is the only way to get LTE though. You get a larger data bucket with ST but you're limited to HSPA+... its really all a matter of what you need.
Solavei might be a good option too, especially if you have good T-Mobile service in your area - they will knock 20 bucks a month off their 49 dollar fee for every 3 people you get to sign up with Solavei, for as long as they keep their service.
http://www.solavei.com/
T-Mobile has LTE? oh thats right on selected cities
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T-Mobile has LTE? oh thats right on selected cities
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They are rolling out their network insanely fast. OpenSignal has T-Mobile LTE showing up all over the place. Obviously test towers but they are going to flip the switch on the most advanced LTE network, something nobody else can say!
The simple and correct way to this mess is to just frikin use the same carriers data as matched to that carriers branded device .Using att phone on tmobile or vise versa just never cuts it ,unless you want 2g more so than not... And you want to render the phones capabilitys useless and waist your money on 2g ,This should only be done out of desperation,say like if your phones broke and it's a temp solution.
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Worth the switch?

All,
I'm a Verizon customer and I just picked up the Droid DNA off-contract a week ago. I hate my life now that I can't unlock or S-Off because Verizon sucks - coming from a GNex is even worse since I flashed all the time on it. Question is, is it worth it to make the switch to AT&T/T-Mobile/Sprint to pick up the HTC One? On the off chance Verizon does pick it up it'll probably have the bootloader locked anyway.
I have an upgrade on my Verizon line in August and I've been holding out hope that the next Nexus will come to Verizon but that's probably unrealistic as well. Is the One worth a switch to a new provider? FWIW I leave in South Jersey near Philly so anywhere I go will most likely get service from any provider. Also, I wouldn't incur a ETF from Verizon because I'm on my parent's line and would just wait till that's out to cancel if I switched today..Help!!
Philly area is great for AT&T
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Philly area is great for AT&T
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Figured that, LTE faster than Verizon?
Also, does ATT have a no contract plan like T-Mobile does? Where you pay monthly installments on the price of the phone?
I just recently switched from Verizon and ATT's LTE is way faster. Granted I did lose my unlimited data, the coverage with ATT is pretty darn good and I'll have the option to unlock and use a month to month plan should I choose (more variety of carriers on GSM)
I don't believe ATT has the plan where you pay the monthly price of the phone though.
If your mind is sent on the HTC ONE, I suggest you sell the DNA on eBay while the phone is still in demand and still very popular on Verizon. You won't take much of a hit and you could use the money to purchase the ONE.
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Marcismo55 said:
I just recently switched from Verizon and ATT's LTE is way faster. Granted I did lose my unlimited data, the coverage with ATT is pretty darn good and I'll have the option to unlock and use a month to month plan should I choose (more variety of carriers on GSM)
I don't believe ATT has the plan where you pay the monthly price of the phone though.
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I switched from Verizon too, but I did it so I would have a lower bill. I'm impressed with At&t's service as well as the One! It's was so cool, I got the phone on a Tuesday and Lte went live the next day.
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if you like htc one so much, it is worth to switch
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worth!
htc one has the best design of android phone
Verizon has the best network over all, but the phones are lacking. Phones come out late, are locked down and are crippled. For me I like the choice of phones that AT&T offers. Also, since their phones are of the GSM variant, there is an abundance of International ROMs and mods available.
In the end what counts though is the coverage in your area. In my area both AT&T and Verizon offer LTE with good coverage. If you do have an unlimited data plan on Verizon, I would think twice before switching. Verizon unlimited data is truly unlimited with no throttling.
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If your mind is sent on the HTC ONE, I suggest you sell the DNA on eBay while the phone is still in demand and still very popular on Verizon. You won't take much of a hit and you could use the money to purchase the ONE.
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Yeah I have it up on the classifieds on Phandroid right now, if I don't get any hits then I'll put it up for auction.
DrexelDragon said:
Yeah I have it up on the classifieds on Phandroid right now, if I don't get any hits then I'll put it up for auction.
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Try swappa, its great!

Ditching Sprint, is TMobile Any Better?

Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
Nippero said:
Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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Sprint LTE should be better if they ever arrive but I get decent speeds here in Oregon with T-Mobile and the west side has the least coverage.
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Sprint LTE should be better if they ever arrive but I get decent speeds here in Oregon with T-Mobile and the west side has the least coverage.
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Yea thats what I keep telling myself. But they did finally deploy LTE in an area near me... Barely worked. And I constantly got dropped calls, calls not coming through at all, missing texts, etc. Had to force LTE to stay off so I could actually use my phone.
I was sitting in Citibank making changes to my account. The customer service rep had to call me back on my own cellphone to verify my identity, so I sat there staring at my phone with 5 bars of LTE. No call. 5 mins later, I decide to turn off LTE, and call comes through. The woman said she kept calling but getting sent straight to voice mail =.=
I dont have much hope for them.. sigh.
And I just dont like the idea that I'm paying them monthly for basically no service.
Nippero said:
Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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If you want to be safe, try to get a cheap T-Mobile compatible phone (I imagine someone you know has to have a crappy one laying around) and sign up for their prepaid plan. I think you can go day to day ($2 a day) or at least the $30/month plan. Give it a test drive. The SIM card activation kit will cost you $10 initially so it's $40 out of pocket to give it a test run. But it'll be a much more accurate view of how T-Mobile coverage is for your particular situation.
in my area tmo is way better i average 15-18 download 6-10 upload my friend who has sprint 1-3 download less than 1 upload
Yeah, do what that poster said, buy a T-Mobile Sim, and do the 30 a month prepaid and ask a friend or someone to lend you their phone and try it out. that what I would do actually, I had a friend who was with Sprint here in Oregon and was getting awful speed. He liked them because of the whole unlimited internet but i told him that having a capped data of 5gb a month that works is better than having unlimited data that doesnt work
Glad to hear Tmo is better than Sprint for you skinsfan, gives me some more hope.
And Wayne, True, not sure why I didnt think of that.. lol I guess I could just use my old G2 for a few days and try it out. Although I cant remember if my G2 has HSPA+... hm.
EDIT: Would still like to hear more opinions though. Switching over would be expensive enough as it is, if I can just be reassured more by other members, I think thats enough to convince me to switch over.
From what I've heard so far, from my friends, its definitely not as bad as Sprint. Whether its as good as ATT/Verizon is arguable. I know those two are definitely better when out of metropolitan areas. And Verizon is best for being in buildings/underground due to their use of the 700mhz band.
Any one have any idea how tethering really works with the unlimited 4G plan?
Nippero said:
Glad to hear Tmo is better than Sprint for you skinsfan, gives me some more hope.
And Wayne, True, not sure why I didnt think of that.. lol I guess I could just use my old G2 for a few days and try it out. Although I cant remember if my G2 has HSPA+... hm.
EDIT: Would still like to hear more opinions though. Switching over would be expensive enough as it is, if I can just be reassured more by other members, I think thats enough to convince me to switch over.
From what I've heard so far, from my friends, its definitely not as bad as Sprint. Whether its as good as ATT/Verizon is arguable. I know those two are definitely better when out of metropolitan areas. And Verizon is best for being in buildings/underground due to their use of the 700mhz band.
Any one have any idea how tethering really works with the unlimited 4G plan?
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you have to pay extra for it unless your on a custom rom with the unlocked tethering mod but tethering is free with the 2.5 gb 4glte plan i have
nice, so it sounds like they havent changed their tethering policies since I last used them.
Had to run CM on my old HTC G2 in order to tether to my tablet/laptop and not pay for their hotspot service.
Tethering is incredibly important to me.. mainly since my office doesnt allow WiFi for unauthorized personal devices (security issues) =.=
Just to clarify, tethering is unlimited on all data plans on Tmobile except for unlimited which has a 500mb cap. However all plans are actually unlimited data, the data cap is for full speed.
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Cor-master said:
Just to clarify, tethering is unlimited on all data plans on Tmobile except for unlimited which has a 500mb cap. However all plans are actually unlimited data, the data cap is for full speed.
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Hmm.. So let me make sure I get this right.
If you have the 500MB or 2.5GB Data Plan, you have full speed tethering/data until you hit your limit, then you can continue to tether/use data at 2G speeds.
If you have the unlimited plan, you have full speed on your phone always, but tethering is limited to 500MB. Once you hit the 500, do they just block you from tethering? Or can you continue to tether at limited speeds?
Nippero said:
Hmm.. So let me make sure I get this right.
If you have the 500MB or 2.5GB Data Plan, you have full speed tethering/data until you hit your limit, then you can continue to tether/use data at 2G speeds.
If you have the unlimited plan, you have full speed on your phone always, but tethering is limited to 500MB. Once you hit the 500, do they just block you from tethering? Or can you continue to tether at limited speeds?
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I believe that's correct but I dunno what happens when you hit your cap. I'm not actually on Tmobile, I'm on at&t but me and my wife both have nexus 4s and it's actually cheaper for me to switch not and eat my etf rather than wait till the end of my contract so I've been heavily researching it. I really want unlimited data so I can use google play music without worrying about hitting my cap within a week
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Nippero said:
nice, so it sounds like they havent changed their tethering policies since I last used them.
Had to run CM on my old HTC G2 in order to tether to my tablet/laptop and not pay for their hotspot service.
Tethering is incredibly important to me.. mainly since my office doesnt allow WiFi for unauthorized personal devices (security issues) =.=
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yea but most of the sense based roms have included it on the international forum so no need to have aosp for free tethering anymore
Ohh soo tempting to just switch asap.
Thanks for the help guys.
I would miss my QWERTY keyboard on this Photon Q though. Its basically the one and only redeeming feature >.> lol
How is typing on the HTC One? I was never able to really get used to swype on my phone :|
Wonder if I can restrict myself to screen typing only with my current phone, so I can get used to it.
i have both sprint and tmobile... tmobile is much better as for as 4g speeds.. it keeps up with verizon and att lte sprint doesnt keep up for anything.. tmobile is building their lte and should launch this summer in newark nj.. i have an apt in newark and central jersey.
Nippero said:
Okay so I used to be a T-Mobile user, HTC G2. Then my sister got a new job with a sprint employee discount, and our contract ended... so we switched, now I'm on Sprint with a Photon Q.
HATE IT. TERRIBLE speeds. Unlimited Everything sounded great, but wow I've never gone over 500MB/month due to the slow speeds. No matter how hard I try. Seriously.
From what I remember, T-Mobile service was pretty decent in NYC. Not amazingly quick, but good enough. And kinda spotting in buildings (but still got 3G-ish speeds I think).
So I need some help here. How is T-Mobile now? I know NYC doesnt have LTE yet. But the T-Mo HTC One works with their AWS HSPA+ right?
How is it in Newark NJ, any experiences?
Indoors?
How is tethering on the phone. I mainly want to tether to my Nexus 7 and I'm unsure about what I'm reading in these plan details...
Can I get around the 500MB tethering limit if I tether via bluetooth or use custom firmware?
When I had my G2 (about a year ago now), I tethered to my laptop and used a browser-agent changer plugin to bypass T-Mobile's tethering checks >.>
Lots of questions here, sorry. Just trying to make sure I make the right choice.
I would have to pay $350 early termination and $150 (after tax) for the phone if I were to switch over.
Oh also, any chance we can get a cheaper plan? I know T-Mobile has a $30/month prepaid plan, 100 minutes and unlimited text/data. Dont suppose I could get that with the phone on monthly payments right lol.
Thanks!
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Well, I'm in the Phoenix market, but I'll give you my experience as I switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Being in the 5th largest market with no 4G coverage since I joined Sprint in Sep 2010 has been frustrating. This is mainly what led me to leave them. As you mentioned, unlimited data isn't worth much of anything if you can't get data at a decent speed. Kinda like being in a chugging contest with a straw! Anyway, I've had T-Mobile for about a week now and it is so nice to be able to use your phone to look information up or browse the web. I envisioned myself doing that when I joined Sprint, but never used my phone for those type of activities due to the speed limitations. Now, I have occasional LTE, but mostly 4G as I run around the Valley here. The 4G is way faster than anything I experienced at Sprint. Again, I don't know how the NY market is shaking out. One other reason for me to switch to T-Mobile, believe it or not, was price.
I'm a face to face kind of guy, so I went to a T-Mobile store. I told the T-Mobile rep that I was going to have to get out of Sprint ($80.08/month) and had a early termination fee of $160 (contract ends in Feb 2014). He said that he could apply a $100 credit to my next billing period to help on that front. Also, depending on the sales guy you get, ask for a percentage discount. I got an 18% discount on my bill (your mileage may vary, depending on how the rep wants to stretch). Anyway, tax/title/tags out the door with a monthly bill of $62.45 for unlimited everything!
I'm going to switch my wife from Verizon (17% discount from work and 2GB/month paying $97.18/month) and get her unlimited everything added to my T-Mobile acct. Our bill will be $107/month. With her Verizon and my Sprint bill every month, we were paying $177/month. Love saving me $70/month to spend elsewhere!
Good luck and don't be afraid to ask for credit for ETF and a percentage discount.
asheikh90 said:
i have both sprint and tmobile... tmobile is much better as for as 4g speeds.. it keeps up with verizon and att lte sprint doesnt keep up for anything.. tmobile is building their lte and should launch this summer in newark nj.. i have an apt in newark and central jersey.
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Thanks! My office is in Newark, so I definitely want to have good service out here lol.
I Like Soup said:
Well, I'm in the Phoenix market, but I'll give you my experience as I switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Being in the 5th largest market with no 4G coverage since I joined Sprint in Sep 2010 has been frustrating. This is mainly what led me to leave them. As you mentioned, unlimited data isn't worth much of anything if you can't get data at a decent speed. Kinda like being in a chugging contest with a straw! Anyway, I've had T-Mobile for about a week now and it is so nice to be able to use your phone to look information up or browse the web. I envisioned myself doing that when I joined Sprint, but never used my phone for those type of activities due to the speed limitations. Now, I have occasional LTE, but mostly 4G as I run around the Valley here. The 4G is way faster than anything I experienced at Sprint. Again, I don't know how the NY market is shaking out. One other reason for me to switch to T-Mobile, believe it or not, was price.
I'm a face to face kind of guy, so I went to a T-Mobile store. I told the T-Mobile rep that I was going to have to get out of Sprint ($80.08/month) and had a early termination fee of $160 (contract ends in Feb 2014). He said that he could apply a $100 credit to my next billing period to help on that front. Also, depending on the sales guy you get, ask for a percentage discount. I got an 18% discount on my bill (your mileage may vary, depending on how the rep wants to stretch). Anyway, tax/title/tags out the door with a monthly bill of $62.45 for unlimited everything!
I'm going to switch my wife from Verizon (17% discount from work and 2GB/month paying $97.18/month) and get her unlimited everything added to my T-Mobile acct. Our bill will be $107/month. With her Verizon and my Sprint bill every month, we were paying $177/month. Love saving me $70/month to spend elsewhere!
Good luck and don't be afraid to ask for credit for ETF and a percentage discount.
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Oooh interesting... I called them up last week and asked if they could help me out in any way since my ETF would be hefty ($350.. ugh) but the guy on the phone said there was nothing he could do.
I'll try going into an actual store later today.
Question, did you go to a corporate store (big fancy ones) or one of the smaller authorized dealers?
Nippero said:
Thanks! My office is in Newark, so I definitely want to have good service out here lol.
Oooh interesting... I called them up last week and asked if they could help me out in any way since my ETF would be hefty ($350.. ugh) but the guy on the phone said there was nothing he could do.
I'll try going into an actual store later today.
Question, did you go to a corporate store (big fancy ones) or one of the smaller authorized dealers?
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Hey Nip, I went to a corporate store. Hell, if you wanna try, I'll give you the guys name/number. Maybe he can set you up outside your state and ship it to you!
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Hey Nip, I went to a corporate store. Hell, if you wanna try, I'll give you the guys name/number. Maybe he can set you up outside your state and ship it to you!
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that would be great, thanks!
Actually guys I switched from unlimited 3G/text and I think it was 900 shared min at sprint and hopped on T-Mobile with unlimited 4G LTE/text and 1000 shared min. I pay $150 a month, but only because were paying off our phones(I have the HTC One and she has the GS4). I haven't regretted it one bit. Also since LA got lit up with LTE its been awesome.
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[Q] Moving From Sprint, Some Questions About Unlocked 32GB One

Hey guys,
I've been searching around the forums for a couple hours now and while there are some vague and half answers to my questions I really just wanted to get a definite yes or no on a few things.
I'm moving from an HTC One on Sprint because of Sprint's terrible data speeds. I'm definitely getting the HTC One on T-mobile, but I'm deciding between T-mobile's own HTC One or the unlocked 32GB version directly from HTC because I don't want even what little bloat the T-mobile version comes with, I want updates directly from HTC, and I travel to Europe at least once a year so I want to be able to take my phone with me and I know that T-mobile can be wishy washy about unlocking this phone before 40 days even if you've bought it outright. I know I can buy a code from eBay, but why pay another cent or take another step?
I'm in a refarmed LTE area so the lack of the 1700Mhz band shouldn't be a problem, right?
So my question is, given my situation (need for an unlocked phone, living in a refarmed/LTE area) will I really see any drawbacks using this phone in my day to day over getting the T-mobile version, flashing the ROM from the Unlocked/Dev version and paying to have it unlocked?
Thanks for your help! :laugh:
I just got my HTC One a week ago, so I might not be the best person to answer you, but somethings better than nothing right? lol
Anyway. For what its worth, I have the T-mo HTC One and the bloat really isnt that bad. Sure, you cant uninstall it, but the Sense 5.0 launcher lets you hide apps from the drawer and the T-mo apps dont stay on as running services if you turn them off.
Besides the Apps, theres no hint of this HTC One being on T-Mobile.
And I think you might miss out on WiFi Calling with T-mo if you get the Dev version of the HTC One. I'm definitely not sure about this, but its the only downside I can see besides the different bands, which someone else can comment on.
KiamatDusk said:
Hey guys,
I've been searching around the forums for a couple hours now and while there are some vague and half answers to my questions I really just wanted to get a definite yes or no on a few things.
I'm moving from an HTC One on Sprint because of Sprint's terrible data speeds. I'm definitely getting the HTC One on T-mobile, but I'm deciding between T-mobile's own HTC One or the unlocked 32GB version directly from HTC because I don't want even what little bloat the T-mobile version comes with, I want updates directly from HTC, and I travel to Europe at least once a year so I want to be able to take my phone with me and I know that T-mobile can be wishy washy about unlocking this phone before 40 days even if you've bought it outright. I know I can buy a code from eBay, but why pay another cent or take another step?
I'm in a refarmed LTE area so the lack of the 1700Mhz band shouldn't be a problem, right?
So my question is, given my situation (need for an unlocked phone, living in a refarmed/LTE area) will I really see any drawbacks using this phone in my day to day over getting the T-mobile version, flashing the ROM from the Unlocked/Dev version and paying to have it unlocked?
Thanks for your help! :laugh:
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I have had an unlocked 32gb on Tmobile since mid April and I'm loving it, if you're in a refarmed area dont worry, where I live (SoCal) it's entirely refarmed and Ive been getting good HSPA+ the whole time, and as of a few days ago LTE as well. I would just go for the unlocked, especially since you'll be traveling.
Nippero said:
I just got my HTC One a week ago, so I might not be the best person to answer you, but somethings better than nothing right? lol
Anyway. For what its worth, I have the T-mo HTC One and the bloat really isnt that bad. Sure, you cant uninstall it, but the Sense 5.0 launcher lets you hide apps from the drawer and the T-mo apps dont stay on as running services if you turn them off.
Besides the Apps, theres no hint of this HTC One being on T-Mobile.
And I think you might miss out on WiFi Calling with T-mo if you get the Dev version of the HTC One. I'm definitely not sure about this, but its the only downside I can see besides the different bands, which someone else can comment on.
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Wifi calling is a software thing not hardware, you can flash parts of a tmobile rom to get it if you really want it on an unlocked/dev edition
CrappyAlloy said:
I have had an unlocked 32gb on Tmobile since mid April and I'm loving it, if you're in a refarmed area dont worry, where I live (SoCal) it's entirely refarmed and Ive been getting good HSPA+ the whole time, and as of a few days ago LTE as well. I would just go for the unlocked, especially since you'll be traveling.
what part of socal do you live in? i got the tmobile htc one last month because i wasn't sure what parts would be refarmed. I live about 25 miles out of Anaheim and i know that area got refarmed i believe but i'm not outthere alot so i did not want to take a chance and get the developer version. i only want to know so when i get my next phone next year, i can be better informed
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daniel2744 said:
what part of socal do you live in? i got the tmobile htc one last month because i wasn't sure what parts would be refarmed. I live about 25 miles out of Anaheim and i know that area got refarmed i believe but i'm not outthere alot so i did not want to take a chance and get the developer version. i only want to know so when i get my next phone next year, i can be better informed
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I live in the Rancho/Fontana area, but I go to CPP so I regularly commute between the LA and San Bernardino areas, I'd say a good 85% or so of the areas I go to are refarmed, and of those about 40% of them already have LTE; I gotta give props to Tmobile, I've enjoyed their service so far and for only 30 a month it's been great.
CrappyAlloy said:
I live in the Rancho/Fontana area, but I go to CPP so I regularly commute between the LA and San Bernardino areas, I'd say a good 85% or so of the areas I go to are refarmed, and of those about 40% of them already have LTE; I gotta give props to Tmobile, I've enjoyed their service so far and for only 30 a month it's been great.
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oh okay thanks for letting me know. i will keep this in mind or next year when i get a new phone or if i brink my tmobile htc one then i will need a replacement lol. i live in Corona. i get lte out here and really great hspa+. i also go to CPP actually lol. tmobile has impressed me too. 30 bucks a month is great. i'm assume you have the prepaid plan? i'm on postpaid but only pay 63 bucks a month for unlimited everything. i need my data lol
I have the developer edtion and switched from Sprint to T-Mobile. Best thing I did speeds are 10 x faster. I'm in a reframed area. If you're in a reframed area definitely go for it.
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KiamatDusk said:
Hey guys,
I've been searching around the forums for a couple hours now and while there are some vague and half answers to my questions I really just wanted to get a definite yes or no on a few things.
I'm moving from an HTC One on Sprint because of Sprint's terrible data speeds. I'm definitely getting the HTC One on T-mobile, but I'm deciding between T-mobile's own HTC One or the unlocked 32GB version directly from HTC because I don't want even what little bloat the T-mobile version comes with, I want updates directly from HTC, and I travel to Europe at least once a year so I want to be able to take my phone with me and I know that T-mobile can be wishy washy about unlocking this phone before 40 days even if you've bought it outright. I know I can buy a code from eBay, but why pay another cent or take another step?
I'm in a refarmed LTE area so the lack of the 1700Mhz band shouldn't be a problem, right?
So my question is, given my situation (need for an unlocked phone, living in a refarmed/LTE area) will I really see any drawbacks using this phone in my day to day over getting the T-mobile version, flashing the ROM from the Unlocked/Dev version and paying to have it unlocked?
Thanks for your help! :laugh:
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I would get the T-Mobile version. There are only a few TMO apps, and having the AWS available is a good thing, especially when traveling. TMO will unlock your phone for you, so unless you are leaving for Europe within 40 days, it should not be a problem. Actually, I've read posts from folks who got their unlock code immediately, provided they paid for the entire phone.

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