Original Issue
Does anyone else have problems with this game dipping down into single FPS? I know there was an issue with this device throttling down but I expected it to be fixed in 4.2.2.
Is this device plagued or something?
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The issue revolved around two parts. The #1 culprit was the Paranoid Android rom, as others have said in this thread. Althogh with just the PA rom and PA kernal there was still the cpu thermal issue, causing FPS to dip to 15fps with a maximum of 30fps. PA rom + Franco Kernal helped by fixing the throttling issue but FPS was still at about 30-35 max.
I flashed CleanROM 2.5.5 and kept the stock kernal that it came with. My FPS while playing NFS now stays at a constant 58fps the entire time.
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I've had no issues with it. But I've also never tried on stock ROM !suggest AOKP pub
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iamikon said:
I've had no issues with it. But I've also never tried on stock ROM !suggest AOKP pub
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Ok. I'm on paranoid android so maybe that's the culprit.
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Ah yeah paranoid is a bit behind for performance. Also I use kt's kernel and I have found changing graphics settings such as forced GPU etc in developer options causes problems with some games so that might be the issue too.
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Ah yeah paranoid is a bit behind for performance. Also I use kt's kernel and I have found changing graphics settings such as forced GPU etc in developer options causes problems with some games so that might be the issue too.
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Go figure. I downloaded the ROM you mentioned earlier, I'll give it a shot tomorrow and report back. Thanks for the help!
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Not a problem! Hope you get it going i love the game. Though now im on real racing 3
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Thank you so so much, the problem is fixed. Turns out it was the PA rom after all. To think i was about to get rid of the tablet too... I'm very happy now
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Thank you so so much, the problem is fixed. Turns out it was the PA rom after all. To think i was about to get rid of the tablet too... I'm very happy now
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It has nothing to do with the rom but with the kernel, I was having issues with it in stock rom, but I've been on PA rom since January and the issue was resolved with Franco kernel. The crappy performance is from thermal throttling which it has been addressed in the custom kernels. Been playing NFS MW smoothly since.
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Ah, good to know. Either way, the rom listed above is loaded with features. I have no interest in returning to PA anytime soon.
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In was having terrible issues on cm10 with stock kernel. After installing ktoonez and bumping the CPU to 1900mhz and the GPU to max (600mhz I think) I'm having perfect performance
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scottypimpin636 said:
Ok. I'm on paranoid android so maybe that's the culprit.
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That is most definitely one of the problems. While you can have FPS issues, the PA ROM has really bad input lag so the game feels like it is lagging much more than it really is.
Setting < Developer Options
Turn on Force 4X MSAA and It should fix any problem you are having with NFS
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Turn on Force 4X MSAA and It should fix any problem you are having with NFS
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Because it makes the game run much slower all the time?
I'm not trying to advertise, but NFS runs completely lag free in my latest ROM. If you're having troubles, it might be worth giving SentinelROM a try.
Stock ROM here and no issues what do ever, works more than fine with no lag.
IDK man..
Sentinel196 said:
I'm not trying to advertise, but NFS runs completely lag free in my latest ROM. If you're having troubles, it might be worth giving SentinelROM a try.
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It didn't work out so good for me, It has the same performance as the Clean rom but with more stuff, Which is good but I like the Clean rom which lets me install only the apps i want. But you rom is good aswell
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Turn on Force 4X MSAA and It should fix any problem you are having with NFS
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That may work for a couple games but that is not really a "fix" for poor performance. It will actually slow this game down even more and the AA isn't even being applied to most surfaces so it is a complete waste.
One tweak that will net you better performance in both real-time gaming and benchmarks is to reduce vm.min_free_kbytes value in the sysctl.conf file (which is found in system/etc ) It is usually set to vm.min_free_kbytes=32768 or 16384 and this is not really necessary. Change the value to either 8192 or 4096 and it will give you a few extra FPS for FREE. (No loss of graphics quality or any other negative drawbacks)
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That may work for a couple games but that is not really a "fix" for poor performance. It will actually slow this game down even more and the AA isn't even being applied to most surfaces so it is a complete waste.
One tweak that will net you better performance in both real-time gaming and benchmarks is to reduce vm.min_free_kbytes value in the sysctl.conf file (which is found in system/etc ) It is usually set to vm.min_free_kbytes=32768 or 16384 and this is not really necessary. Change the value to either 8192 or 4096 and it will give you a few extra FPS for FREE. (No loss of graphics quality or any other negative drawbacks)
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This is all I have in that file...
vm.dirty_ratio = 90
vm.oom_kill_allocating_task = 0
vm.swappiness = 0
vm.vfs_cache_pressure = 20
I am using pub aokp and ktmanta if that makes a difference
Have you tried it?
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That may work for a couple games but that is not really a "fix" for poor performance. It will actually slow this game down even more and the AA isn't even being applied to most surfaces so it is a complete waste.
One tweak that will net you better performance in both real-time gaming and benchmarks is to reduce vm.min_free_kbytes value in the sysctl.conf file (which is found in system/etc ) It is usually set to vm.min_free_kbytes=32768 or 16384 and this is not really necessary. Change the value to either 8192 or 4096 and it will give you a few extra FPS for FREE. (No loss of graphics quality or any other negative drawbacks)
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I thought the entire tread was about NFS most wanted and it's bad performance, Have you turned on Force 4X MSAA & played NFS MW or is this just speculating?
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This is all I have in that file...
vm.dirty_ratio = 90
vm.oom_kill_allocating_task = 0
vm.swappiness = 0
vm.vfs_cache_pressure = 20
I am using pub aokp and ktmanta if that makes a difference
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Add the line, it is hard coded into the kernel. Use 8192.
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I thought the entire tread was about NFS most wanted and it's bad performance, Have you turned on Force 4X MSAA & played NFS MW or is this just speculating?
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Yes I have tried it, it made it even slower and MSAA wasn't even being applied, and I am not just referring to transparency or sprites. I have been doing this for a long time and I can tell you that if MSAA makes something run faster then the game is horribly programmed to begin with. You are the one speculating my friend.
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Hi guys, the game works fine for a couple of mins, until the phone starts heating and well , it starts lagginggggg. Multiplayer works fine, but single player is just killing me. Problems only occur when phone starts to warm up. Anyone facing this issue?
More info : Strafing and scrolling "view" seems to be lagging, as though frame-rate just dropped or something. I've reinstalled and uninstalled, downloaded data and still, the same outcome. Multiplayer is as smooth as
Please tell me this isnt just meeee
im alone?????
Ive only played the first mission. it does not lag or overheat like you mention,although i do notice the frames drop in some areas becoming slightly laggy.online gaming is great.i hate that the game crashes and restarts sometimes in online play
Have some apps running in the background?
I also experience UHT moment when i play gameloft games.. but theres no continuous lag, only stutters on some area..
You may also need to check that your governor wasn't on conservative..
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Got no framerate issue here. Try looking for a newer version.
florexus said:
Got no framerate issue here. Try looking for a newer version.
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Gorjess said:
Have some apps running in the background?
I also experience UHT moment when i play gameloft games.. but theres no continuous lag, only stutters on some area..
You may also need to check that your governor wasn't on conservative..
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djunited said:
Ive only played the first mission. it does not lag or overheat like you mention,although i do notice the frames drop in some areas becoming slightly laggy.online gaming is great.i hate that the game crashes and restarts sometimes in online play
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Hmm, im on the latest version. 1.0.1. What im getting is the BLURISH effect when scrolling views. Im pretty sure its a framerate drop. Ive got MC3 running alone, no background apps. Its literally killing me. Ive tried 5 different kernels, and Im sure im not overclocking or underclocking the cpu. Im using stock rom though. Would cyanogenmod help improve the gameplay? Any good roms that still preserve the samsung qwerty keyboard?
I have this issue too. I have a Samsung Galaxy SII GT-I9100, Noble Black, 2.3.5, stock ROM, kernel XWKJ1 (also stock), NO ROOT
At some point (fire or many trees or something) the game is lowering the FPS. I didn't noticed that for example on Sensation XL (which has 1.5 singlecore and even higher screen resolution than my phone has) and i didn't saw a single lag.
I made a video about this problem and posted it on youtube here it is:
I suppose this problem is related to my stock ROM or even my stock kernel... something similar is happening with backstab but there it's not that annoying since it's not a FPS game
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I have this issue too. I have a Samsung Galaxy SII GT-I9100, Noble Black, 2.3.5, stock ROM, kernel XWKJ1 (also stock), NO ROOT
At some point (fire or many trees or something) the game is lowering the FPS. I didn't noticed that for example on Sensation XL (which has 1.5 singlecore and even higher screen resolution than my phone has) and i didn't saw a single lag.
I made a video about this problem and posted it on youtube here it is:
I suppose this problem is related to my stock ROM or even my stock kernel... something similar is happening with backstab but there it's not that annoying since it's not a FPS game
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YES YES Im not alone. Thats the problem. I wonder if its due to the stock rom...
Got the game no issue here. im rooted on slimrom with siyah kernel, not overclocked but undervolted so it doesnt heat up so much. Fyi shadow gun is a really good game as well
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
No issues here.
Well,it even happens on my device,which is overclocked,both the CPU(1600MHz) and the GPU(400MHz).It seems to only happen when there is smoke on the screen.Doesn't happen in any other case.
Feel like flashing a new rom. Gonna get a usb jig first...
Btw, any roms to recommend?
@androidkid:slimrom running touchwiz?
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I have this issue too. I have a Samsung Galaxy SII GT-I9100, Noble Black, 2.3.5, stock ROM, kernel XWKJ1 (also stock), NO ROOT
At some point (fire or many trees or something) the game is lowering the FPS. I didn't noticed that for example on Sensation XL (which has 1.5 singlecore and even higher screen resolution than my phone has) and i didn't saw a single lag.
I made a video about this problem and posted it on youtube here it is:
I suppose this problem is related to my stock ROM or even my stock kernel... something similar is happening with backstab but there it's not that annoying since it's not a FPS game
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Because it has another much weaker GPU, therefore it has much lower graphical quality settings. It's like playing on Low and the GSII on very high.
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Because it has another much weaker GPU, therefore it has much lower graphical quality settings. It's like playing on Low and the GSII on very high.
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Well,even if it is so,it's unacceptable,as it's definitely a fault on Gameloft's part.The game is,once again like other Gameloft titles,more or less badly coded.It uses too much GPU.I can play ShadowGun with 16x MSAA(Using CF3D) for hours and the phone just gets warm,while I can't play MC3 for nearly as long and the device burns.Before anyone tries to say that it's because MC3 has so super awesome graphics,it's not the cause.Our GPU doesn't overheat,even when overclocked.Excessive heat is only generated by the CPU.So,try playing ShadowGun and MC3 with 500MHz or 800MHz CPU.ShadowGun still plays as awesome as before,while MC3 lags.
We should contact Gameloft me thinks...
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Well,it even happens on my device,which is overclocked,both the CPU(1600MHz) and the GPU(400MHz).It seems to only happen when there is smoke on the screen.Doesn't happen in any other case.
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tolis626 said:
Well,even if it is so,it's unacceptable,as it's definitely a fault on Gameloft's part.The game is,once again like other Gameloft titles,more or less badly coded.It uses too much GPU.I can play ShadowGun with 16x MSAA(Using CF3D) for hours and the phone just gets warm,while I can't play MC3 for nearly as long and the device burns.Before anyone tries to say that it's because MC3 has so super awesome graphics,it's not the cause.Our GPU doesn't overheat,even when overclocked.Excessive heat is only generated by the CPU.So,try playing ShadowGun and MC3 with 500MHz or 800MHz CPU.ShadowGun still plays as awesome as before,while MC3 lags.
We should contact Gameloft me thinks...
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Contacted gameloft 3 weeks ago. Said they would look into the problem. Lets just wait for the net update to roll out
redfreak said:
Contacted gameloft 3 weeks ago. Said they would look into the problem. Lets just wait for the net update to roll out
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Yeah...Ok,so what's the next best game you said?
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Car drive
Try the map where your using a minigun and escaping with a truck/car (dont remember the map name)
the fps drops from stable 60 to under 20 impossible to, win the level through with hard
Hmm which governor are you using? i just know that lulzactive is kinda bad if it comes to gaming. try out some stock governors like ondemand, conservative or performance.
DaGodfather said:
Hmm which governor are you using? i just know that lulzactive is kinda bad if it comes to gaming. try out some stock governors like ondemand, conservative or performance.
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Tried all, only choice is to run stock rom, like cm7... Btw guys, if I use chainfire and download the game under "Adreno", would it work
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Yeah...Ok,so what's the next best game you said?
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Now play GTA3.
Hey guys I just got NFS: Most Wanted on the ATT Note. The gameplay and the controls are great but the game sort runs in slowmo. Anybody else getting different performance in other ROMS?
I'm running flapjaxx's AOSP ICS rom W/ GPU OC and CPU OC. I assume the slowness is due to the Note's large resolution and it's not quite as optimized as it could be for our phones. It is smooth but just terribly slow.
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OOOOKAY guys I am back with some interesting results!
I continued to try more roms and see the performance with Need for Speed Most Wanted. I first tried Flapjaxx's stock ICS rom with touchwiz with an overclock kernel and gpu OC. That ran better than any of the AOSP but still had some slowness to it.
Seeing as the stock roms tended to give more performance, I tried another stock rom. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933. No OC kernel, everything stock pretty much. Here is what happened:
1. I restored NFS from titanium
2. NFS says this android is not compatible
3. I uninstall NFS and install it from the Playstore and redownload the SD data
4. Ran the game and observed that there was little to no lag! Well I'm sure it could be a bit better, the frame rate was totally playable and it actually felt speedy!
Now i'm not sure what is happening here. Either 1. the game downloaded a new SD data with lower graphics requirements, 2. the game recognized the device as a different device and choose the graphics setting accordingly, OR 3. the device just performs better @ mostly stock. Now can anybody inform me on how the SD Data actually works that would be great so I can pinpoint what it is.
My next test will be using the above rom that yielded good performance with flapjaxx's OC/GPU kernel to see if it speeds up the frames anymore.
UPDATE 2
After a bit more testing I see that without the OC kernel and using the kernel from 'better stock' ROM above, the road actually is missing some water and effects which is probably leading to the smoother gameplay! If anybody else is testing this let me know what your results are!
UPDATE 3
Trying out flappjaxx's Jelly Bean rom with his GPUOC and CPUOC. No surprise there, graphics got bumped up.
What I did notice is that there is almost NO DIFFERENCE in frames (from what I could see) from Stock rom + AOSP/JB roms with OC kernel in BUMPER CAMERA MODE despite the higher graphics. To be clear, those of you on AOSP that are already using bumper mode will not get higher frames in bumper mode on something like a stock rom. There is little to no difference in bumper modes. Should be all that I can test now. I will be sticking with this Jellybeanie and playing NFS in bumper camera mode myself (in car view).
EA, give us graphic options. That is all.
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In conclusion:
Game is somehow determining the graphics through the kernel
SD Data downloaded is the same on every rom, don't have to download new SD Data.
Some roms perform better than others. I had a lot of luck with Jelly Bean roms on stock kernel, no need to overclock.
Figured I'd give you guys a ranking list from roms. Going from best to worst
1. Latest Jelly Bean Nightly 11/21 Stock Kernel - Great out of car and even faster in car - graphics medium
2. Flapjaxx's FJ Stock Rom Mod - OCGPU/CPU best performance (in car view only) - graphics high
3. Electro's Stock Rom - Stock Kernel with no OC Okay performance in both out of car view and in car view - graphics medium
im running AOPK milestone 1, You can kinda play the game....but all the cars are black the buildings are black and the road is black....Not really sure what is going on! but I do get the slowmo at first but after I go to the menu and go back to playing the game it starts to run smoothly....in black that is!
I noticed the slowness as well, I switched to the in car view and it runs much better. Give that a try...
Sounds like u downloaded the wrong SD data
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im running AOPK milestone 1, You can kinda play the game....but all the cars are black the buildings are black and the road is black....Not really sure what is going on! but I do get the slowmo at first but after I go to the menu and go back to playing the game it starts to run smoothly....in black that is!
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That's jelly bean right? I had some problems running games and with graphical glitches in jelly bean until I turned off HW overlay and that stopped my problems.
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I noticed the slowness as well, I switched to the in car view and it runs much better. Give that a try...
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Wow, yeah running in that camera mode is a lot better. Hopefully the fix the issues completely. Thanks for the tip!
geeksquadryder said:
Sounds like u downloaded the wrong SD data
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What do you mean?
Seems to run a little laggy on mine, and it's a real battery hog as well
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Tomdg07 said:
Seems to run a little laggy on mine, and it's a real battery hog as well
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Ditto, switching to in-car view is definitely a lot smoother, has decent graphics but looks like the limit of S3 Adreno 225 chip has been reached, this (and other games of similar graphic quality) may be enough reason for me to upgrade to note 2 later. I also have slow down problem with NBA 2K13.
No real graphic glitch however, if you see missing textures it has to be wrong sd data, remember we are Snapdragon NOT Mali.
Im on liquid RC7 with KK.12 kernel no overclocking and the game seems to run fine for me with no lags..however Tomdg07 is right its a battery hog which quite frankly isnt a surprise. I just got off a 30 minute subway ride and I was playing it the entire time..used up exactly 20% of the battery.
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Im on liquid RC7 with KK.12 kernel no overclocking and the game seems to run fine for me with no lags..however Tomdg07 is right its a battery hog which quite frankly isnt a surprise. I just got off a 30 minute subway ride and I was playing it the entire time..used up exactly 20% of the battery.
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Really? No lag? Hmm, what's that ROM? Is it one of the Jellybeanies? Have you tried in car view to see if it is even faster than out car?
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Really? No lag? Hmm, what's that ROM? Is it one of the Jellybeanies? Have you tried in car view to see if it is even faster than out car?
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Yes indeed no lag at all - Liquid is a jellybeanie you can find it in the original development thread. To be honest I havent had the need to try in car view because the out car view has been working fine.
I should mention though that whilst I have not over clocked I am using several build prop tweaks some of which Im sure optimize graphics and what not.
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Yes indeed no lag at all - Liquid is a jellybeanie you can find it in the original development thread. To be honest I havent had the need to try in car view because the out car view has been working fine.
I should mention though that whilst I have not over clocked I am using several build prop tweaks some of which Im sure optimize graphics and what not.
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Just tried NFS Most Wanted on Liquid with KK Kernel and no luck. I even tried some build prop tweaks. It just feels too slow. Weird.
Going to try deleting it and redownloading the SD Data instead of restoring it from Titanium. Will report back with results.
EDIT: No go either. Still low frame rates. On a good note however, Liquid Jellybean Rom is probably the most stable of the Jellybeanies.
OOOOKAY guys I am back with some interesting results!
I continued to try more roms and see the performance with Need for Speed Most Wanted. I first tried Flapjaxx's stock ICS rom with touchwiz with an overclock kernel and gpu OC. That ran better than any of the AOSP but still had some slowness to it.
Seeing as the stock roms tended to give more performance, I tried another stock rom. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933. No OC kernel, everything stock pretty much. Here is what happened:
1. I restored NFS from titanium
2. NFS says this android is not compatible
3. I uninstall NFS and install it from the Playstore and redownload the SD data
4. Ran the game and observed that there was little to no lag! Well I'm sure it could be a bit better, the frame rate was totally playable and it actually felt speedy!
Now i'm not sure what is happening here. Either 1. the game downloaded a new SD data with lower graphics requirements, 2. the game recognized the device as a different device and choose the graphics setting accordingly, OR 3. the device just performs better @ mostly stock. Now can anybody inform me on how the SD Data actually works that would be great so I can pinpoint what it is.
My next test will be using the above rom that yielded good performance with flapjaxx's OC/GPU kernel to see if it speeds up the frames anymore.
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Tried the OC Kernel on the stock ROM which lead it to being slow again! I'm not sure now what to think. Going to wipe and go back to the 'better stock' kernel not the 'pure stock'.
After a bit more testing I see that without the OC kernel, the road actually is missing some water and effects which is probably leading to the smoother gameplay! If anybody else is testing this let me know what your results are!
I really just wish there was an in-game settings option to reduce the graphics quality...... (if there is and I'm missing it please fill me in)
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I really just wish there was an in-game settings option to reduce the graphics quality...... (if there is and I'm missing it please fill me in)
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Agreed. Right now there is no way to change graphics quality. Certainly would save me trouble. What I think is happening is that with some Roms and Kernels the game thinks we have higher hardware and cranks up the graphic quality thus slowing down the performance of the game.
What I found is every time I used an OC kernel of some type, the game slows. So it might be a kernel issue.
I just cant comprehend why despite having the same phone and same setup (i.e. rom, kernel etc) we get totally different results.
PS> Tomdg07 props to your state for pushing obama over the 270 he needed to win. Americans totally made up for giving dubya two terms.
I was testing some more Roms yesterday including Black IV and Electro's stock debloated Rom. Black IV had flapjaxx's kernel with the ability to OC and on the Electro was not OCable.
My results were the same. Something about flapjaxx's kernel or kernels with the ability to OC makes the game bump up in graphics thus making it slower. The game must be scanning the clockspeed or something or maybe it's something deeper than that. If I can I want to test out AOSP roms again to see if its the kernel or both the kernel + the rom.
Trying out flappjaxx's Jelly Bean rom with his GPUOC and CPUOC. No surprise there, graphics got bumped up.
What I did notice is that there is almost NO DIFFERENCE in frames (from what I could see) from Stock rom + AOSP/JB roms with OC kernel in BUMPER CAMERA MODE despite the higher graphics. To be clear, those of you on AOSP that are already using bumper mode will not get higher frames in bumper mode on something like a stock rom. There is little to no difference in bumper modes. Should be all that I can test now. I will be sticking with this Jellybeanie and playing NFS in bumper camera mode myself (in car view).
EA, give us graphic options. That is all.
UPDATE: Those of you that are finding this page and reading this post. Look on the front page for what roms are the best for this game.
Got an alert to update the game when opening it, after updating it won't even open, anyone else issues after update?
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Got an alert to update the game when opening it, after updating it won't even open, anyone else issues after update?
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Same issue. Luckily I had a backup of the SD data on my hard drive so I can revert back. But yeah something messed up in that download messed up the game for us.
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Same issue. Luckily I had a backup of the SD data on my hard drive so I can revert back. But yeah something messed up in that download messed up the game for us.
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Only form of a backup I have is in the nandroid backup I did before flashing cm10, I suppose I could dig it out of there somehow, but I'll give them a day or two to fix it first
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Alright so: found the fastest sensless ROM was slimrom. With quadrant I scored about 4k on funky kernel. Mostly all sense based ROM scored around that that's with funky. Now that I installed rage ROM aosp I'm getting laggier performance in games and about a 2- 3k quadrant benchmark score. Same with antutu benchmark. Lower scores then on sense. This dosnt make sense. I thought aosp ROMs (cm9) were so pose to be godly and around faster then she sense based. But lower benchmark and lower fps and lag in games this sucks. Still running funky. I noticed that system tuner was acting up and making it do all weird things so I cleared data and uninstalled rebooted and still got same scores. Force GPU was checked in all ROMs and kernel versions. And all benchmarks were dine with ball the same CPU setting. Maybe an app is acting up and robing performance? I'm not get any abnormal heat or batter drain.
Did you check the built in cpu manager within the settings? If you have an app to govern it, they will battle over control causing lag.
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Did you check the built in cpu manager within the settings? If you have an app to govern it, they will battle over control causing lag.
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Yes and I only use the built in one to control. I was reading that this is a common problem with cm9 and going from android v 4.0.4 to 4.0.3 might fix it. As in different cm9 ROM.
Told you this before and hate to sound like a broken record. Don't use System Tuner with my kernel, use Android Tuner or CPU Tweaker (these replaced System Tuner for a reason) on Sense roms.
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Told you this before and hate to sound like a broken record. Don't use System Tuner with my kernel, use Android Tuner or CPU Tweaker (these replaced System Tuner for a reason) on Sense roms.
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I don't touch any CPU settings with ST. None. Its pretty much installed for freezing apps task manager to see what's running and the widget. That's it. All CPU settings are dine through CM in the performance section.
NEVER NEVER NEVER turn force GPU rendering on (breaks MANY apps), thats the BIGGEST mistake MANY people do on these forums along with those so-called universal "build.prop" tweaks which do absolutely nothing. Try using the stock kernel first to see if its kernel related.
richii0207 said:
NEVER NEVER NEVER turn force GPU rendering on (breaks MANY apps), thats the BIGGEST mistake MANY people do on these forums along with those so-called universal "build.prop" tweaks which do absolutely nothing. Try using the stock kernel first to see if its kernel related.
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I've tested both games mc3 and nova 3 and both run better with it enabled. I've also tried multiple versions of kernel. Found 1.4 gives good performance and battery I've read tho that it is is a cm9 problem and that its "known"??r idk how true that is tho. Its mainly just games that I'm lagging on.
Quadrider10 said:
I've tested both games mc3 and nova 3 and both run better with it enabled. I've also tried multiple versions of kernel. Found 1.4 gives good performance and battery I've read tho that it is is a cm9 problem and that its "known"??r idk how true that is tho. Its mainly just games that I'm lagging on.
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I do not have GPU rendering enabled, on stock kernel and my games run smooth.
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I don't touch any CPU settings with ST. None. Its pretty much installed for freezing apps task manager to see what's running and the widget. That's it. All CPU settings are dine through CM in the performance section.
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You should probably uninstall ST reboot and see if that fixes your issues.
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You should probably uninstall ST reboot and see if that fixes your issues.
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Tried. Nothing.
Any ;new when Neo is gonna push out his CM10 build? I think aims just wait for that see if that dolv s the problem if not them back to slimrom.
It won't be released until the CM10 devs give the go ahead. But I don't think you'll like it any more than what you've been running.
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whens that gonna be?
cm10 is based off of JB though and from what i read, jb is crqzy smooth because vsync was disabled? idk but i read that its insanely smooth
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whens that gonna be?
cm10 is based off of JB though and from what i read, jb is crqzy smooth because vsync was disabled? idk but i read that its insanely smooth
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Triple buffering. You're thinking about triple buffering. We'll only get all those benefits with a full implementation of Project Butter, which is not automatic with jellybean. Right now, what we have is very uneven. Some things are smooth, some things are choppier. Getting a full ION implementation should smooth things out, but it still won't be Project Butter.
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Triple buffering. You're thinking about triple buffering. We'll only get all those benefits with a full implementation of Project Butter, which is not automatic with jellybean. Right now, what we have is very uneven. Some things are smooth, some things are choppier. Getting a full ION implementation should smooth things out, but it still won't be Project Butter.
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ohhh i see.... but like is that lag and fps drop just a problem with cm9, or is it just my phone?
what auntutu benchmark and quadrant scores do you get?
Quadrider10 said:
ohhh i see.... but like is that lag and fps drop just a problem with cm9, or is it just my phone?
what auntutu benchmark and quadrant scores do you get?
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8860 - Antutu
3030 - Quadrant
nolimit78 said:
8860 - Antutu
3030 - Quadrant
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what was your fps on both tests?
my antutu score was 8094 cpu and everything set to max speed.
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what was your fps on both tests?
my antutu score was 8094 cpu and everything set to max speed.
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Which part on each test? I'll have to do it again to check.. the test results don't tell me that info.
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Which part on each test? I'll have to do it again to check.. the test results don't tell me that info.
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in the knights test it tells you on bottom.... in sense roms i got about 59 in cm9 i get about 45-50. in both tests. somehting has to be wrong your getting a score of 800 better then me and running close to the same kernel and rom ish....
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in the knights test it tells you on bottom.... in sense roms i got about 59 in cm9 i get about 45-50. in both tests. somehting has to be wrong your getting a score of 800 better then me and running close to the same kernel and rom ish....
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56.74 FPS
Found a thread with the trick to getting Tegra 4 graphics on our Note 3's. Our device is more than capable of running this so it's BS that Madfinger and other devs do this crap. Give thanks to "lm that guy" in the original thread linked below.
Tegra 4 Graphics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496204
Dead Trigger 2 Download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.deadtrigger2
Enjoy!!!!
nolimit06 said:
Found a thread with the trick to getting Tegra 4 graphics on our Note 3's. Our device is more than capable of running this so it's BS that Madfinger and other devs do this crap. Give thanks to "lm that guy" in the original thread linked below.
Tegra 4 Graphics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496204
Dead Trigger 2 Download: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.madfingergames.deadtrigger2
Enjoy!!!!
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I tried this on the Nexus 7 Grouper and it was almost perfect. You can notice very tiny lag when looking at the reflective water, so I expect that any other device out there such as the Galaxy S4 and Note 2 can run it no problems.
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I tried this on the Nexus 7 Grouper and it was almost perfect. You can notice very tiny lag when looking at the reflective water, so I expect that any other device out there such as the Galaxy S4 and Note 2 can run it no problems.
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It was unplayable laggy on my Grouper, might have been the level I was on. The N7 ROMs based on CM are a mess and don't allow custom kernels without what I consider major problems. Not sure what's going on there.
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It was unplayable laggy on my Grouper, might have been the level I was on. The N7 ROMs based on CM are a mess and don't allow custom kernels without what I consider major problems. Not sure what's going on there.
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Yup you were right depends on the level. First level plays pretty stable. Indoor levels are a disaster. The game is pretty damn optimized if it stays as stable as it does. It is playable on mine, just unpleasant to play, not a dramatic lag. I'm pretty pissed i waited all summer for this game, never released then, and now that it is it requires you to be connected to some sort of internet all the time to play. Groupers depend on wifi, i live in NYC where the best time to play is while on the buses. Buses don't have wifi?!?! How am I to play lol. And my Nexus 7 is mint but the wifi is pretty crappy compared to my girls which has some wear, so here at home even with a good connection i encounter issues playing and the loading also depends on internet believe it or not.
As for roms for the Nexus 7, go with SmoothRom 5.2. Its AOKP based instead of CM. If you've done your homework, AOKP is claimed to be glitchy, but that really doesnt apply to the Nexus 7. And SmoothRom is 99% stable, no crashes, no "Unfortunately BlaBlaBla has stopped working," no fluttering graphical glitches. The 1% instability goes to the fact that at times the stock AOSP browser's Back/Forward/Refresh buttons dissapear. Its stable for daily use. I have it installed on mine and my girls. Only con is that its still stuck on 4.2.2 but the preformance IMO exceeds 4.3 with the tweaks it has.
Kernel-wise, I use M-Kernel to reach the crazy 1.6GHz although I never really clock it that high except when testing preformance differences (it can reach 1.7GHz, the secret is it must be on a single core as NVIDIA points out on their Tegra 3). Franco Kernel gives nice battery life, but theres occasional slowdowns on the entire rom and freezes, at times complete system crashes (not sure if thats only with this rom, i know the latest updates to that kernel suddenly brought that).
So if your looking for a stable, fast, reaponsive rom for the Grouper, think SmoothRom. Kernel is up to you.
I will look in to that ROM, thanks for the heads up.
Sick graphics
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nolimit06 said:
I will look in to that ROM, thanks for the heads up.
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No problem! You wont regret it let me know how it works out! I'm now testing this on the LG Optimus G...wish me luck!
I'm using the Root Browser in Rom Toolbox. I can edit the value in the XML, and it says it's saving, but when I go back in to the file my edit is reverted back to the original.
How can I tell visually if the ultra high graphics are actually enabled?
Hey folks , I got some strange problems with my phone here.
So,what's my story about. My gaming performance just suddenly got bad. Before,I was on official 4.3 with everything stock and games ran flawlessly. Then I flashed AOSP ROM and everything still worked as it should (games didn't lag) and I was on AOSP for more than 4 months.
Now,I flashed back stock sammy-based ROM , and only after 4 days,I noticed that gaming performance is really bad.
Let's start from the fact that only god knows what I've done with my phone today to fix that, but I was unsucsessful. I changed ROMs,kernels,tweaked my phone,overclocked it,but nothing , games still lag like hell. Real Racing 3 has BIG fps drops,dead trigger 2 (low) has some lag spikes and some fps drops,too. Now I downloaded modern combat 4 and it was unplayable! I haven't flashed stock with odin,as my computer doesn't read my phone in download mode (again!),so I'm lazy to do it on other computer. But still thinking of that. Maybe at least very official ROM is the last hope.
So,can anyone help me? This is the first problem which I can't fix and that's bothering me,though I already got used to fact that now I may have to live without gaming,lol. Not a big problem,as for now. But really? What can be the cause? What's wrong with my phone? Why is UI smooth,why can't I see any lag when watching HD videos and etc, but games lag so badly? Look how good my score in antutu is (no overclocking,cpu and gpu - everything stock):
If you are using a custom kernel disable zram. Real racing 3 will lag when offers are loaded at the title screen. If you get lag in game then you have something else going on.
System panel on the playstore can help you see what is going on. Also disable dvfs with the xposed module as that causes issues with overclocked devices.
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If you are using a custom kernel disable zram. Real racing 3 will lag when offers are loaded at thebtitle screen. If you get lag in game then you have something else going on.
System panel on the playstore can help you see what is going on. Also disable dvfs with the xposed module as that causes issues with overclocked devices.
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I'm not overclocked.
Btw,will try and report back. Thanks!
EDIT: Helped partially,like 20%,but still lags,just less fps drop downs. Thanks for trying to help!
Anyone else. Would like to fix this issue.
No one?
I have similar problem (just posted a help thread about it), in my case it's thermal throttling which is scaling down CPU to 800MHz after 5 mins of playing heavy games. try running CPU analyzer from System Tuner and check if that's the problem.
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Hey folks , I got some strange problems with my phone here.
So,what's my story about. My gaming performance just suddenly got bad. Before,I was on official 4.3 with everything stock and games ran flawlessly. Then I flashed AOSP ROM and everything still worked as it should (games didn't lag) and I was on AOSP for more than 4 months.
Now,I flashed back stock sammy-based ROM , and only after 4 days,I noticed that gaming performance is really bad.
Let's start from the fact that only god knows what I've done with my phone today to fix that, but I was unsucsessful. I changed ROMs,kernels,tweaked my phone,overclocked it,but nothing , games still lag like hell. Real Racing 3 has BIG fps drops,dead trigger 2 (low) has some lag spikes and some fps drops,too. Now I downloaded modern combat 4 and it was unplayable! I haven't flashed stock with odin,as my computer doesn't read my phone in download mode (again!),so I'm lazy to do it on other computer. But still thinking of that. Maybe at least very official ROM is the last hope.
So,can anyone help me? This is the first problem which I can't fix and that's bothering me,though I already got used to fact that now I may have to live without gaming,lol. Not a big problem,as for now. But really? What can be the cause? What's wrong with my phone? Why is UI smooth,why can't I see any lag when watching HD videos and etc, but games lag so badly? Look how good my score in antutu is (no overclocking,cpu and gpu - everything stock):
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Sometimes the games lag but not like u mentioned.. If u want a stock 4.3 that is flashable via recovery and you can have great performance then i have one.. I really have and own it
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/rom-t2744141/post52483316