[Q] Clockworkmod Superuser vs Chainfire SuperSU - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does anybody know any benefits/advantages of CM Superuser over SuperSU?
I simply use SuperSU to control root access (I know that's obvious), but now there is another Superuser app, I'm wondering, Why??
It is open source, which means it is more transparent than the others, is this the only real benefit?
I currently have a nexus 4, should I switch from SuperSU?
P.s. I've added a poll just for fun

Just Me said:
Does anybody know any benefits/advantages of CM Superuser over SuperSU?
I simply use SuperSU to control root access (I know that's obvious), but now there is another Superuser app, I'm wondering, Why??
It is open source, which means it is more transparent than the others, is this the only real benefit?
I currently have a nexus 4, should I switch from SuperSU?
P.s. I've added a poll just for fun
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Matter of preference. I like the extensive customization SuperSU gives me.
Edit: Misread everything. Not wanting to bash but Nexus S CWM recovery has parts broken since a good while. Hard to trust CWM su will be any better...

I personally Recomend the...
I Think that the clockwork mod Super user is better... i cant explain the full pros/cons but from experience, CWM lets you take more control

Cannot fully uninstall CWM Superuser
I cannot fully uninstall CMW Superuser. It says it is uninstalled, but Super US will not install after the CMW uninstall. It tries to re-install CMW. How do I fully remove and replace CMW with Super US? Any ideas?

I'm having big problems removing this from my phone. I want to get rig of superuser (CWM) and replace it with SuperSu

super user :good:

Mcyates said:
I'm having big problems removing this from my phone. I want to get rig of superuser (CWM) and replace it with SuperSu
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Agree, am having the same problem uninstalling. Also you cannot update this app with anything but clockwork mod recovery.

pontypool said:
Agree, am having the same problem uninstalling. Also you cannot update this app with anything but clockwork mod recovery.
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Just flash SuperSU zip in recovery and it will do everything.

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Superuser or SuperSU???

Hi guys i have a quick question about super user:
1- What's the difference between ChainsDD's Superuser and Chainfire's SuperSU?
2- Which one is better, more stable, and why?
3- I currently have ChainsDD's Superuser app installed as stated.in a thread here at XDA, but let's assume that i wanted to unistall the one i have and install Chainfire's SuperSU instead, how do i go about doing this?
Do i install it from the recovery just like i did whith my current one? And how do i even uninstall my current one?
--how do i uninstall the superuser app from my sensation 4g?--
Thanks in advanced
Hope anyone can help me here
Have a good one
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for me SuperSu Better.
I believe the process for switching is install SuperSU, which will install a new, slightly different su binary. Once you have installed SuperSU (and maybe run it once), then you uninstall Superuser. If you want to switch back, install Superuser, let it change the su binary again, then uninstall SuperSU.
EDIT: And I don't know which is better, I have only used Superuser.

[Q] Slim bean 4.2.2 - unroot

Hi,
I really like the slim bean rom.
However, I would like to unroot my phone.
Can I unroot my phone and still keep slim bean?
If yes, how?
Thanks for your help!
in the superuser app settings
Thanks Glebun!
However, it is already set to disabled.
For example my Good for Enterprise app still fails the compliance check.
So I would like to know if I can completely unroot my phone while still keeping Slim Bean.
what superuser app are you using? SuperSU allows for a full unroot
Its built into settings
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rootSU said:
Its built into settings
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Exactly.
I can't find a superuser.apk on my phone.
It's not visible in as an app anywhere.
There is no option to uninstall if I open superuser via the settigns - superuser menu..
I've searched the internet to no end and I'm getting more and more confused.
Hope you can help.
get supersu from play then
Glebun said:
get supersu from play then
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I did install supersu, but again installing it and then uninstalling it still leaves me with the "# Superuser" setting in the settings menu and it's still rooted.
By the way: I just installed another superuser app (I think it is from the CM mod) and I get a notice saying "Normal, the 'su' file needs to be edited. Choose an installation method. 'Via recovery' is recommended for HTC-devices.
So no succes there.
installing and the uninstalling it will have no effect. read my post - supersu has a setting for a full unroot, use it
Glebun said:
installing and the uninstalling it will have no effect. read my post - supersu has a setting for a full unroot, use it
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root consists of 2 elements
1) The app (or settings) which is a gateway to root if you like, but not actually root itself
2) The SU binary /system/bin/su. This is what actually gives root. The above just allows or denies root access. Using one of the superuser apps, you should be able to unroot, removing this. The settings menu will always remain but means nothing.
You may just be able to use a file manager with root permissions to delete the binary.
that is what I meant
rootSU said:
root consists of 2 elements
1) The app (or settings) which is a gateway to root if you like, but not actually root itself
2) The SU binary /system/bin/su. This is what actually gives root. The above just allows or denies root access. Using one of the superuser apps, you should be able to unroot, removing this. The settings menu will always remain but means nothing.
You may just be able to use a file manager with root permissions to delete the binary.
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Guys: you're the best!
Turns out that I had to reboot (duh) before the change took effect.
Now I have slimbean 4.2.2 unrooted and can make use of Good for Enterprise.
Thanks a bunch!
A small summary:
1. Install SuperSU.
2. Use the "Full unroot" function of SuperSU.
3. Reboot :laugh:
Glebun said:
that is what I meant
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Sorry, I didn't mean to quote your post.

I need clockWorkMod SuperUser apk please

Hi, when cwm SuperUser done a update to app and binaries the root not work in my device, can someone give me SuperUser cwm.apk v0.9 or some work please, i searched but I didnt found
fernan2001 said:
Hi, when cwm supersu done a update to app and binaries the root not work in my device, can someone give me supersu cwm.apk v0.9 or some work please, i searched but I didnt found
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http://download.chainfire.eu/204
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Very thanks for answer, but the link is a .zip and I want an apk or can I put it (.zip) with default recovery and not have problems?
Extract that zip, apk is in there
Tapped from my RazR
DumbleCore said:
Extract that zip, apk is in there
Tapped from my RazR
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thanks now I understand I dont knew that...but the apk is not that, I tested that app and not worked because I dont have root chainfire installed , the super user that I have is SuperUser of ClockworkMod, I need a previous version.
fernan2001 said:
thanks now I understand I dont knew that...but the apk is not that, I tested that app and not worked because I dont have root chainfire installed , the super user that I have is SuperUser of ClockworkMod, I need a previous version.
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Look man, superuser is ROOT. Either your phone is rooted or it is not. A rooted phone can run apps that require it like ClockworkMod ROM Manager, Titanium Backup, Greenify, Wireless Tether for Root Users, File managers like Root Explorer or ES File Manager if you want to be able to access the system areas of the phone. So far as I know, there is no "SuperUser of ClockworkMod". If your phone is rooted (You will see superuser or "Super SU" in your app drawer. Here is a free app from the playstore that will tell you if your phone is rooted or not.
Root Checker
Install it and use it to see if your phone is still rooted or if you lost root somehow. If you still have root, then when CWM starts, it will ask for root privileges and the first time it asks, you will be prompted to grant it, once, for a certain time period, or forever. For stuff like CWM, root file managers, and Titanium Backup, you always grant root forever and you will not be asked again until the app updates and requires you to okay granting root privileged or not, then you grand forever and leave it alone.
If you find out you do not have root or lost your root, then you have to root the phone and the procedure is different for different devices, versions, and ROMS. For that kind of help, you have to search for rooting <your particular device and android version number>
Ohmster said:
Look man, superuser is ROOT. Either your phone is rooted or it is not. A rooted phone can run apps that require it like ClockworkMod ROM Manager, Titanium Backup, Greenify, Wireless Tether for Root Users, File managers like Root Explorer or ES File Manager if you want to be able to access the system areas of the phone. So far as I know, there is no "SuperUser of ClockworkMod". If your phone is rooted (You will see superuser or "Super SU" in your app drawer. Here is a free app from the playstore that will tell you if your phone is rooted or not.
Install it and use it to see if your phone is still rooted or if you lost root somehow. If you still have root, then when CWM starts, it will ask for root privileges and the first time it asks, you will be prompted to grant it, once, for a certain time period, or forever. For stuff like CWM, root file managers, and Titanium Backup, you always grant root forever and you will not be asked again until the app updates and requires you to okay granting root privileged or not, then you grand forever and leave it alone.
If you find out you do not have root or lost your root, then you have to root the phone and the procedure is different for different devices, versions, and ROMS. For that kind of help, you have to search for rooting <your particular device and android version number>
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Thanks for answer, well I thinked that too, because my phone cant use root privileges if the aplication superuser isnt installed, however with te superuser aplication my phone have root privileges but with the previous version, with actual version my phond dont have root, even the people in google play say the same "with the new version my phone losed root" and similars comments...
maybe the root version (clockWorkMod) work in this way and need the app for work.
maybe this one??? http://d-h.st/l91
DumbleCore said:
maybe this one???
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Thanks DumbleCore! I have root again
fernan2001 said:
Thanks DumbleCore! I have root again
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Solved it? No problem

[Q] Superuser Problems Help!

Hey, Ok so i updated my Huawei u8650 to android 4.4.2 and something went wrong with my root. I can open superuser and it shows my binary and all that and it says im rooted but when i go to a app that requires root access like terminal emulator for example and i type in the command su. nothing happens it just goes to the next line. and i tried to mount my SD card partition in link2sd and it said that the script cant be created because its not allowed to su.
I thought it could be that superuser just wasn't allowing permissions but i open superuser and there's no apps, no logs or anything. I checked my settings and they're all fine and i even tried to use SuperSU instead and i still got the same thing. There's no prompt to allow access either. I don't know if the apps are just not trying to get root access or what? No app can get root permission and i need to get this fixed so i can fix some bugs on the rom. Please Help.
Thanks to all who attempt or do help. Ill be sure to hit thanks for u.
brewsterj98 said:
Hey, Ok so i updated my Huawei u8650 to android 4.4.2 and something went wrong with my root. I can open superuser and it shows my binary and all that and it says im rooted but when i go to a app that requires root access like terminal emulator for example and i type in the command su. nothing happens it just goes to the next line. and i tried to mount my SD card partition in link2sd and it said that the script cant be created because its not allowed to su.
I thought it could be that superuser just wasn't allowing permissions but i open superuser and there's no apps, no logs or anything. I checked my settings and they're all fine and i even tried to use SuperSU instead and i still got the same thing. There's no prompt to allow access either. I don't know if the apps are just not trying to get root access or what? No app can get root permission and i need to get this fixed so i can fix some bugs on the rom. Please Help.
Thanks to all who attempt or do help. Ill be sure to hit thanks for u.
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i have never used this phone even never shown but i am trying to help you
i think you should change the superuser app that you are using
download the latest version of super user
Vaibhav Chauhan said:
i have never used this phone even never shown but i am trying to help you
i think you should change the superuser app that you are using
download the latest version of super user
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thank u! u are the only one out of 50 people who's viewed this that's even attempted to help.
I am currently on the latest superuser app and i've also tried Super su as well and both do not do anything.
brewsterj98 said:
thank u! u are the only one out of 50 people who's viewed this that's even attempted to help.
I am currently on the latest superuser app and i've also tried Super su as well and both do not do anything.
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why don't you try too reroot your phone
Vaibhav Chauhan said:
why don't you try too reroot your phone
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I just rebooted and it didnt change anything
brewsterj98 said:
I just rebooted and it didnt change anything
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lol..
i'm not saying to reboot
i'm saying to root it again(reroot)
Vaibhav Chauhan said:
lol..
i'm not saying to reboot
i'm saying to root it again(reroot)
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oh xD well i tried that and it still wont give anything permissions. when i try to go into root explorer it says " cannot obtain root" then it gives me a error saying "char* ttyname(int)(3) is not implemented on android". i couldn't find anything on google about the error either.
brewsterj98 said:
oh xD well i tried that and it still wont give anything permissions. when i try to go into root explorer it says " cannot obtain root" then it gives me a error saying "char* ttyname(int)(3) is not implemented on android". i couldn't find anything on google about the error either.
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sorry i don't know about the rooting method of this device
Vaibhav Chauhan said:
sorry i don't know about the rooting method of this device
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i rooted by SRSroot first then first got the error then i unrooted and re-rooted by using the kingo root method but still received the same error. they are both windows programs u can run for root on multiple devices. They use USB debugging to root then device reboots and bam your rooted.
i used those methods because i tried to just flash the binary files through cwm recovery and it never actually installed into system. The two methods above installed binary and rooted my device but i cant give root access to any apps including superuser or supersu.
If anyone can help me with this it would be appreciated because i hit a wall and don't know what to do. No apps can get root permissions and i cant fix my play store, WiFi, speakers or theme chooser until the root is properly working because the methods to fix those bugs need root to function. so please if anyone has knowledge or any idea why i have root but cant get access please help me out.
brewsterj98 said:
If anyone can help me with this it would be appreciated because i hit a wall and don't know what to do. No apps can get root permissions and i cant fix my play store, WiFi, speakers or theme chooser until the root is properly working because the methods to fix those bugs need root to function. so please if anyone has knowledge or any idea why i have root but cant get access please help me out.
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If there is a custom recovery available for your device I would recommend flashing that and then flashing the latest SuperSU.zip package in recovery. Part of the problem is the orginal Superuser (by ChainsDD) while excellent at the time is now extremely outdated and no longer really be maintained, as a result make sure you flash a Superuser package compatible with Android 4.4.2 such as the latest version of SuperSU.
shimp208 said:
If there is a custom recovery available for your device I would recommend flashing that and then flashing the latest SuperSU.zip package in recovery. Part of the problem is the orginal Superuser (by ChainsDD) while excellent at the time is now extremely outdated and no longer really be maintained, as a result make sure you flash a Superuser package compatible with Android 4.4.2 such as the latest version of SuperSU.
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Where can i find it at? I have recovery on here but i cant seem to find the file. At this point i'll try anything.
Ok so i found the SuperSU.zip v1.99 via another XDA Forum(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053) and i flashed it then rebooted. Now my device says there is no binary and i am not rooted. I tried reflashing but the .zip does nothing. what should i try next?
Rooted again with SRSroot and still cannot get root access.........please help me out.
brewsterj98 said:
Rooted again with SRSroot and still cannot get root access.........please help me out.
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You can try flashing Koush's Superuser in recovery, after please run root checker and tell me what is says it the status of your device.
I cant install root checker pro for some reason. I have the basic version installed, is that good enough?
brewsterj98 said:
I cant install root checker pro for some reason. I have the basic version installed, is that good enough?
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The basic version will work just fine for our needs.
shimp208 said:
The basic version will work just fine for our needs.
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OK so root checker says i have root access but i still cant access root permissions in apps. I took some screenshots of Link2sd, Terminal Emulator and root explorer so you can see what exactly is going on. I get some weird error in link2sd and root explorer that i have no clue what it is.
Anyone got any knowledge of this error?
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Anyone got any knowledge of this error?
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try root after factory reset

[Q] CleanMaster Root Access Failed

I have already given root access to the app Clean Master. Under the 'Autostart Manager' page, I tried to remove apps that autostart by itself. However, the app pop out a message indicating 'Failed to Grant Root' and reminded me to grant root access.
I went back to the superuser app, it was indicated that root access has been granted.
Any way to solve this problem?
I have been having this same issue on rooted stock gs4. It's temperamental when it comes to root I've noticed. One day I was able to turn it app off of auto start and when I installed a new app it wouldn't let me do it and su says I'm granted
I'm experiencing the same issues. Auto Start Manager is the only feature that has this issue.
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yoongkc said:
I have already given root access to the app Clean Master. Under the 'Autostart Manager' page, I tried to remove apps that autostart by itself. However, the app pop out a message indicating 'Failed to Grant Root' and reminded me to grant root access.
I went back to the superuser app, it was indicated that root access has been granted.
Any way to solve this problem?
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I always face this issue also, what I do as a temporary fix is, go to the SuperSU app, then "Forget" Clean Master, open Clean Master and try to disable an app from Auto starting, grant root and the app will be disabled I hope it works for you too
I am glad I am not the only one having this issue. I recently updated an app via the play store and clean master told me it was auto starting. I tried to block it, but it keeps telling me root access failed and to grant it. Well I've granted it root 18 times now and it still says root failed. I have tried everything to get it to work...clear logs, tell superSU to forget clean master, give it global default, etc. Nothing seems to work and it's pissing me off.
Unfortunately this does not work for me.
I have granted root access according to SuperSU Pro however when trying to stop autostarting apps in Clean Master it reminds me to allow access.
I even get a popup massage from SU stating that the app got granted root access.
Whats happening here? Does anyone have a work around?
Deleting Cleanmaster in SuperSU doesnt help. It is always the same unfortunately.
Best Regards
J
I too also have problems with the autostart function in Clean Master on my Optimus Zone II
First of all, if you've root then you shouldn't use clean master. That's so naive.
About the permissions. Even after root your system partition stays in read only mode. I'm guessing this okay. You should check that out first.
Re:Re: [Q] CleanMaster Root Access Failed
Vtrendzzy said:
First of all, if you've root then you shouldn't use clean master. That's so naive.
About the permissions. Even after root your system partition stays in read only mode. I'm guessing this okay. You should check that out first.
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Ok, (I know Im gunna reget this), but why?, in your option, should Clean Master NOT be used, since it need so many "root" functions in order to work? Ive used it for years. Rooted or no, (mostly rooted), and why do all the "autostart" apks, (ROM Toolbox, Autostarts, Autostart Manager,etc) work just fine. I've tryied it with r-w on system on, sooooo....next...?
DerDoktorEsq said:
Ok, (I know Im gunna reget this), but why?, in your option, should Clean Master NOT be used, since it need so many "root" functions in order to work? Ive used it for years. Rooted or no, (mostly rooted), and why do all the "autostart" apks, (ROM Toolbox, Autostarts, Autostart Manager,etc) work just fine. I've tryied it with r-w on system on, sooooo....next...?
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I can't argue over this. Best options for you 1. Root Cleaner (high priority) 2. SD Maid Pro (medium priority)
See the difference yourself.
fix?
Has anyone figured out what the issue is here? It worked just fine on cm12 but stock Lilli nope. Root issues for sure it must have something to do with system partition. Has anyone fixed this issue?
dillweedinc said:
Has anyone figured out what the issue is here? It worked just fine on cm12 but stock Lilli nope. Root issues for sure it must have something to do with system partition. Has anyone fixed this issue?
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Has anyone figured out what the issue is here?²
hey..the main culprit is supersu app
yoongkc said:
I have already given root access to the app Clean Master. Under the 'Autostart Manager' page, I tried to remove apps that autostart by itself. However, the app pop out a message indicating 'Failed to Grant Root' and reminded me to grant root access.
I went back to the superuser app, it was indicated that root access has been granted.
Any way to solve this problem?
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Clean master is not working on 2.46(I mean the autostart manager) I noticed this yesterday..i flashed a new Rom first it was having Supersu 2.46 version in which CM was not working but after flashing Supersu 2.49 CM is working plus in Google store supersu 2.46 beta is there which won't work...my clean master started working again normally like before after installing SuperSU 2.49...so try flashing or installing supersu 2.49
Link for supersu zip (Flashable zip)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
Clean master root access
wow. cool...,ill try that,
thanx
it's supersu problem
StoneyJSG said:
I am glad I am not the only one having this issue. I recently updated an app via the play store and clean master told me it was auto starting. I tried to block it, but it keeps telling me root access failed and to grant it. Well I've granted it root 18 times now and it still says root failed. I have tried everything to get it to work...clear logs, tell superSU to forget clean master, give it global default, etc. Nothing seems to work and it's pissing me off.
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Just go thru my above post..it will definitely work..so give it a try... flashing new supersu 2.49 resolved the problem for me.?
Yep its working again. I tried 2.48 cuz somebody said it worked for them, but i had no luck there. 2.49 did the trick, thx for letting us know in the thread.
tycoon78[stoner] said:
Clean master is not working on 2.46(I mean the autostart manager) I noticed this yesterday..i flashed a new Rom first it was having Supersu 2.46 version in which CM was not working but after flashing Supersu 2.49 CM is working plus in Google store supersu 2.46 beta is there which won't work...my clean master started working again normally like before after installing SuperSU 2.49...so try flashing or installing supersu 2.49
Link for supersu zip (Flashable zip)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
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Its working for me too.
Thanks tycoon78 for the tip
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The new Super SuperUser Apk 2.49 from chainfire, did not work for my CleanMaster blocking apks from autostarting on my little optimus 2....:crying: any other suggestions?
Ahhh! Thank you so much tycoon! It works for me after updating super user!
QUOTE=Alison.Souza;60674697]Its working for me too.
Thanks tycoon78 for the tip [/QUOTE]
DerDoktorEsq said:
The new Super SuperUser Apk 2.49 from chainfire, did not work for my CleanMaster blocking apks from autostarting on my little optimus 2....:crying: any other suggestions?
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I just rooted my s6 edge and was having the same issue with 2.46. Luckily when I updated to 2.49, I was unable to block the autostartup apps.

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