[Q] Where to install 3rd party keyboards so they stick on reboot? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I use swiftkey, but I know it's an issue with ICS, that any 3rd party keyboard does not stick upon reboot because: "The issue is that Google Play installs paid apps in a particular location on your phone and that in some versions of Android (particularly 4.1 on Samsung devices) this location is not available at the point in the boot process where keyboards are being switched on. So your phone does not know that you have SwiftKey, and it defaults back to the phone’s keyboard.
We are unable to control where Google Play installs the app, and also unable to do anything about the way in which your phone boots up, so we are essentially powerless."
So, with that being said, if you have root, where would you want to install the keyboard to, because I just tried system/app and it still didn't stick upon reboot.

Forcing sticky settings
I ran into this exact problem trying to use a 3rd party spell checker on my Nexus 10 running Android 4.2.2 in a mostly stock environment
(Nova launcher, Lookout Premium security & privacy app)..... Long explanation follows of what I tried, skip to ¶ for the solution.
WARNING: THIS COULD HOSE YOUR PHONE SO USER BEWARE!!
After uninstalling almost everything I had downloaded, except the spell checker, I still couldn't get the setting to stick.
So, I started disabling Android apps like the dictionary provider & user dictionary apps. Still no sticky setting.
I finally downloaded a 3rd party keyboard app to replace the Android keyboard - AI-type is the app name & it's free - but while the setting
for the new keyboard stuck, the spell checker setting still didn't.
¶ I noticed that the Android keyboard app was running even though the alternate was working. So, I disabled the Android keyboard app itself. Voila!!
The spell checker setting finally stuck! It appears that even though I had selected an alternative keyboard, the Android keyboard app still runs & resets
whatever it pleases back to the default, regardless what the user did to the settings.
I would suggest you trying the same thing: disable the Android keyboard app, after sitting the input device to your 3rd party
keyboard. Hopefully, that forces Android to go directly to the alternate keyboard.
You may want to make sure the voice input stuff works, in case Android really can't find your keyboard app. Otherwise,
you're totally hosed without an Android input device.
I hope that works.... but please don't come after me if my suggestion hoses your phone.
Caveat emptor & all that; I am still a junior member of this forum. Even though I have ~30yrs experience as software engineer,
I know little about the Android guts. I'm learning, though.
Becky

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[Q] This Item Is Not Compatible With Your Device on Market with Vegan Tab 7.1

I just got Vegan Tab 7.1 and LOVE IT... the UI is fantastic!
However, there seems to be an issue with several if not most of my apps on the Android Market. I get the message "This item is not compatible with your device"
All of these apps I have used with previous roms including Vegan tab 7.0.3 and Cyanogen Mod 7.1
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
clear market data, then try again.... worked for me
Good Call, I should have thought of that.
Clearing data is only only a temporary fix (at least for me). A few hours later Market updates and I get the "not compatible" message again.
I clear data again and later it again updates.
The other solution seems to be to freeze the market updater.
That happend to me too...
I did go back to Harmony ROM.
one of the reason;
When using the Android Market website, a device will be grayed out if it isn’t compatible with the app you’re attempting to install. Most commonly, this occurs because the app isn’t designed for your device's screen size or version of Android.
source: https://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1141074
I faced this issue as I changed my LCD density. After reverting back to the default LCD density value for my mobile, It worked normal.
I have also noticed that after the vegan 7.1 update, my device has *vanished* from the list of my devices on android market. Is anyone also noticing this?
praveen1789 said:
one of the reason;
After reverting back to the default LCD density value for my mobile, It worked normal.
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What is the "default" density? After installing 7.1 i noticed it's now 160...
Regarding cache-clearing: I have tried that and it didn't work.
Dan
I am on stock 3588 plus the enhancement pack.
A couple of weeks ago I started having the same problem with the compatibility of most apps. In addition when I go the Market and then to My Apps now I only see a single app listed: LauncherPro. All other apps I installed from the market are no longer on the list.
I have reset the market by clearing the data and stopping Market and the Google Framework to no avail.
My G-Tab no longer shows as a device in my account.
I believe Google did something to eliminate the unauthorized devices.
I also think they have changed to block the "unauthorized" roms from working. about half the app installed now tell me they are not compatible with my device, and some of them are paid apps. I have asked this question, and the Markets response was to do a factory reset on my phone. I told them that was a crock as I have been on this rom for months now and a factory reset should be a last resort, not a standard fix. I asked them if they changed the market so that it looks at that, and no response yet. on the reply I got from the original mailing, my "specs" are included in the mail I sent them. It has android_os listed twice. the first is gingerbread, and the second is "other". And the first paragraph seems to indicate that with the "warning" about unauthorized os's. And the os is actually what should be on my device (android os), just it is modified, which happens when you personalize your phone anyway by adding widgets, change wallpaper or toggle features.
So is there any hack for that?
Or at least a way to find out what exactly in my device settings prevents the app from being compatible?
Use the modded market..you shouldn't run into that at all with it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582422

[Q] Launcher default set to Home, no Web button or .apk access

I rooted the Nook Tablet using adb and NookandZergy, installed the Go Launcher EX, and had no problems until an accidental tick of the "default launcher" box. I know there are several Q and A posts on the subject, but none seem to have my particular problem.
- I seem to have no access to the developer setting or anything outside of the standard Nook settings. I don't see a way to access the developer settings, though when I plug the NT into a usb port, the notification for developer mode does come up.
- I have no "web" access, as in, I have no ability to open a web browser. I believe I may have deleted it when installing the root using one of the DOS options. The same goes for the search function.
- Going through the "library" app, I can see the android system UI files, etc., but nothing that could seem to help. I also can't launch any .apk files. The NT cannot read the file and claims it is an unsupported format.
I know I have tgps_launcher installed, at least I'm 95% certain that I do. I cannot seem to access it, unless I'm unaware of all the ways to do so. I think I've provided all the info surrounding this. If I have to nuke it and reroot, I will, though I would like to avoid that option and am unsure how to do so.
Any help is appreciate. Thanks in advance.
How to switch the default home launcher for HomeCatcher once I've already set it?... This link is in my FAQ >> i would suggest you to read it.
~ Veronica
Thanks for the quick reply.
Unfortunately this isn't possible solution, as it requires use of the "search" function. The search function for the NT Home was removed during the rooting process and is unavailable.
For the sake of argument, I tried to look for some sort of search functionality and found nothing. The only option, as I stated before, was to use the "library" app search function. This only displays actual Nook apps, however (Crossword, etc.).
maridus said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
Unfortunately this isn't possible solution, as it requires use of the "search" function. The search function for the NT Home was removed during the rooting process and is unavailable.
For the sake of argument, I tried to look for some sort of search functionality and found nothing. The only option, as I stated before, was to use the "library" app search function. This only displays actual Nook apps, however (Crossword, etc.).
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First time i rooted (i had installed go launcher) few minutes later my device started to act weird it changed to Nook home launcher and go launcher disappeared i could not access to the browser icons eather, so i found a way to open apps and look in their settings too find for a link to make browser open and i succeeded once browser opened i went to android.market.com and looked for go launcher >> install after that a new window will pop up asking which application i desired to use to open it, i pick market app , it opened i installed then another window to ask which launcher i wanted for default home i pick go launcher and problem fixed. After that i removed stock launcher, cleaned my nt screen and got it a screen protector, never had that kind of issue again.
~ Veronica
lavero.burgos said:
First time i rooted (i had installed go launcher) few minutes later my device started to act weird it changed to Nook home launcher and go launcher disappeared i could not access to the browser icons eather, so i found a way to open apps and look in their settings too find for a link to make browser open and i succeeded once browser opened i went to android.market.com and looked for go launcher >> install after that a new window will pop up asking which application i desired to use to open it, i pick market app , it opened i installed then another window to ask which launcher i wanted for default home i pick go launcher and problem fixed. After that i removed stock launcher, cleaned my nt screen and got it a screen protector, never had that kind of issue again.
~ Veronica
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Clever! Unfortunately, that was a no-go too. I went through Nook Friends to get to the google sign-in page, from there I got a mock google.com homepage going and found a download, but none of the ones I tried would work, the psuedo-browser would just crash.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to remove the stock launcher, but my gf actually prefers that interface to the Go Launcher (it's her device, I'm just doing the heavy lifting for her). I think I'm going to cut my losses and do the manual reset from your FAQ. Going with that, are there any launchers that more closely resemble the original Nook Home, or maybe a method of importing some of the icons/functionality of the rooted stuff to the Home? In any case, I'm going to be looking putting AnyCut and/or NT Hidden Settings to have several backups in case this happens again.
Thanks again for your help.
maridus said:
Clever! Unfortunately, that was a no-go too. I went through Nook Friends to get to the google sign-in page, from there I got a mock google.com homepage going and found a download, but none of the ones I tried would work, the psuedo-browser would just crash.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to remove the stock launcher, but my gf actually prefers that interface to the Go Launcher (it's her device, I'm just doing the heavy lifting for her). I think I'm going to cut my losses and do the manual reset from your FAQ. Going with that, are there any launchers that more closely resemble the original Nook Home, or maybe a method of importing some of the icons/functionality of the rooted stuff to the Home? In any case, I'm going to be looking putting AnyCut and/or NT Hidden Settings to have several backups in case this happens again.
Thanks again for your help.
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You can use stock launcher and still have an alternative one for when you use it (lets say) and change between them by using homecatcher or another app like home switcher, you may want to go to B&N setting > search> searchable items and check more items there; also in the quick tips section of my FAQ tell you what app to use to add android apps to default nook home launcher.
BTW just checking when i opened the netflix app you get some links there to open browser but if its crashing then you probably have to start from scratch 'cause that's not normal behave anyway.
~ Veronica
Had the same thing happen to a friend's NT that I had rooted for him, and besides all that you mentioned "Button Savior" was there but didn't do anything. You are pretty much stuck.
I ended up having to do the 8+ factory resets and re-rooting, and then restoring everything from TiBackup. At least once you have the drivers working on your computer it's really not that big of a deal. I read somewhere that it might be related to "Homecatcher" but not sure about that.
~ G

[Q] Android spell checker keeps resetting on reboot

I posted this on the General forum a couple of days ago - obviously the wrong place since it's been ignored.
So, trying again here, ....
I downloaded the app QuickSpell from MobiSytems.
To use it for everything, I select QuickSpell for the Spell checker in the Android Language & input settings. When I reboot, the setting reverts back to the Android default.
When I choose QuickSpell, I get a warning dialog that says that what I type, including passwords & credit card numbers, may be captured & used for nefarious purposes... OK, not quite that phrase, but basically that gist. I have to select OK in order for the setting to change.
I power down then back up, then look at the Spell checker setting: it's back to the Android default. Something else also resets: the Google voice typing setting re-enables itself. I have no clue about that either.
I've tried disabling the Dictionary Provider app before rebooting... the setting is back to the default. I haven't been able to figure out what generates the warning message, nor if there is any other app that could be disabled to help.
My Nexus 10 is mostly standard: Android 4.2.2 (the latest update), the Nova launcher and Lookout Premium as my security app. I know that that us not the problem, even though it does scan for privacy data access. I've emailed their support & gotten a reply saying that they do not change anything, just do their scans and report the results to let the user decide what to do.
I've emailed MobiSystems support & gotten nothing back but an automated reply.
Any suggestions for what to try to either make the setting sticky, or to track down the culprit so that they can tell me how to make it sticky?
Also, what is the easiest-to-use, best keyboard app for Android systems. I really hate this default one. (QuickSpell does help by learning enough to correct the most obvious of my typing mistakes.... now if it can learn what to do when I hit the N or B keys instead of the space bar so wordsbrunbtogethetnlikebvnthis....)
Thanks for your help!
Becky

Uninstall stock keyboard?

I've read a lot about this but not found a definitive answer. I have three choices in Language and Input - Samsung Keyboard, Google Voice typing and Swype. I only want to use Swype. I can untick Google Voice but Samsung Keyboard is greyed out, so every time I type something I get the Choose Input Method (offering me Samsung or Swype) notification. I'm trying to get rid of this because it's annoying and makes Swype open slower.
I tried freezing Samsung keyboard and there were no problems, but maybe there could be in the future so I am unsure about uninstalling it. I can't disable it in APplication Settings, although I guess this is the same as freezing it. I thought though, could I make the Samsung keyboard a
user app, and would that enable it to be unticked? So then I wouldn't get the notification but the app would still be there if I needed it.
Or if I uninstalled the Samsung Keyboard and installed, say Google Keyboard as a backup, would this be okay? If I've installed it myself I should then be able to untick it in Language and Input. I'm currently thinking I might try this.
Or is it safe to uninstall the Samsung keyboard? I used to use PIN screenlock but now use pattern, so that shouldn't be a problem. I can't think of any other situations that would require stock keyboard. I'm on stock 4.1.2 and am rooted. I know this is a long post but just wanted to get as much detail in!
tl;dr: Is it safe to remove the stock keyboard?
edithswanneck said:
I've read a lot about this but not found a definitive answer. I have three choices in Language and Input - Samsung Keyboard, Google Voice typing and Swype. I only want to use Swype. I can untick Google Voice but Samsung Keyboard is greyed out, so every time I type something I get the Choose Input Method (offering me Samsung or Swype) notification. I'm trying to get rid of this because it's annoying and makes Swype open slower.
I tried freezing Samsung keyboard and there were no problems, but maybe there could be in the future so I am unsure about uninstalling it. I can't disable it in APplication Settings, although I guess this is the same as freezing it. I thought though, could I make the Samsung keyboard a
user app, and would that enable it to be unticked? So then I wouldn't get the notification but the app would still be there if I needed it.
Or if I uninstalled the Samsung Keyboard and installed, say Google Keyboard as a backup, would this be okay? If I've installed it myself I should then be able to untick it in Language and Input. I'm currently thinking I might try this.
Or is it safe to uninstall the Samsung keyboard? I used to use PIN screenlock but now use pattern, so that shouldn't be a problem. I can't think of any other situations that would require stock keyboard. I'm on stock 4.1.2 and am rooted. I know this is a long post but just wanted to get as much detail in!
tl;dr: Is it safe to remove the stock keyboard?
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did you try this language and input default and select witch keyboard you want to use
I uninstall stock keyboard all the time and replace it with SwiftKey. I use Titanium Backup to find the app and uninstall it.
I have yet to face any problems, I have no backup of any keyboard, just SwiftKey installed. Well, I don't believe I uninstalled Google Voice typing, but it can be unchecked.
I'm sure there is a way to get rid of stock Samsung. To be safe make a Name I guess.
I Sent from my M-BBQ'd Anarchist N⁴
Yep, I've set Swype as default but I still get the Choose Input Method notification.
I froze stock Samsung keyboard and there didn't appear to be any problems, but I thought I'd check on here. I'll try backing up and uninstalling it with Titanium. A keyboard is a keyboard is a keyboard, so there shouldn't be any problems I would think. Like you say Mr 309041291a, you've never had a problem. I can't think of any situations that would need stock keyboard (maybe PIN/pw lockscreen - if that even uses it?). But I use pattern so shouldn't be a problem.
Thanks for the replies.

Unlock system on boot using custom keyboard

Hi,
I've acquired the G8 Power since my daily phone is not available.
I will consider installing LineageOS later if needed, but for now i want to stay with stock rom.
I never use anything like play store, maps, gmail etc...and tend to avoid using pre-installed apps, replacing every "standard" app like keyboard, contact etc...by one available on F-Droid.
The problem come with the keyboard, ive always used OpenBoard with Gboard disabled. Never have any problem with this behavior when on stock, until today....after settings everything, i restarted, and the keyboard was not available at system boot to unlock the screen...have to use an usb-a to usb-c adapter with my computer keyboard to enter the password.
Double checked OpenBoard was defined as default, its the case, and it open everywhere that need input (except screen unlock after booting, because after the screen was unlocked at least one time, the keyboard become available the next time screen is auto-locked).
Is this a problem on android 10 ? Or maybe a bug with OpenBoard ? Or simply the stock rom is not that good as i think ?
Hope someone have info about this thanks by advance

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