Ok so this is my first post and im hoping its in the right spot! First off my name is TehJibba and ive been messing around with my evo3d sprint cdma for a few months now flashing different roms and exploring them. ive gone as far as installing dsxida's kitchen and fooled around with deodexing and other settings then flashing the results to my phone mostly with success.
So my main goal now is to get info on where to go from here.
What i want to accomplish in the end is to have a fully working evo3d with beats + leedroid + a custom kernel (yet to be decided on atm) As well as removing ALL stock bloatware leaving only whats needed to run the basic sense 3.6 on the 2.89. ics ota. To be honest all i really like of the stock htc widgets is the clock / weather widgets / animations everything else can go as far as im concerened. Eventually id like to port sense 4.1 to it as well (why? why not i like new dont you?)
So i hope that gives you a basic idea of what i want to accomplish. What i need is a few references as to possible hiccups while installing said mods and possible solutions that i might need. Im also in need of a list of evo3d 2.89 ics ota apps that can be safely removed but leave full functionality of the phne Or any insight would be nice along those lines. Be patient and remember we were all noobs at one point!
P.S. I was also wondering if theres a way to compensate the stock 1500mha full battery charge to 3500mha as i recently got an extended life battery
I'm gonna be hoppin back on the development game in a few weeks or so, so if you wanna PM or Gtalk me or anything, feel free because I would have no problem sittin down for a little while and help you sort some stuff out. Plus, it would help me shed some rust before I start toying around again haha :good: :laugh:
Thank you man ill be taking you up on that offer. Im pretty adept at coding in general so this shouldnt be to hard to pickup
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Thank you man ill be taking you up on that offer. Im pretty adept at coding in general so this shouldnt be to hard to pickup
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Just so coincidental that I signed on as soon as you replied lol, it's no problem at all. There's not really much you need to know as far as apps and mods and stuff, but actually digging deeper, that's when the fun starts. I'll be available to help probably tomorrow night, and then we can start rollin.
OK So thanks to beneath-a-burning-turtle and his kindness in helping a complete stranger this lil project is moving along nicely. Currently im averaging 490mb free ram, 140mb of installed apps leaving about 1gb free memory, as well as getting around 3600~ on quadrant. Total rom size (so far) is 323mb.
Im still in need of input tho from other experienced cooks, anything insightful or that would be a useful addition or anything really would be nice. So lets hear some feedback! :good: Also if theres anything thats considered a must have inthis project feel free to ask for it
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why flash the rom on your phone?
which custom rom does what?
any specific rom for specific purposes?
and finally, what is the best place to start learning about how to do this...
Dan
pierhogunn said:
why flash the rom on your phone?
which custom rom does what?
any specific rom for specific purposes?
and finally, what is the best place to start learning about how to do this...
Dan
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To get certain things that stock ROMS don't have. Like: Speed, not loaded with Carrier crap.
The ROM post should have info about what is included and what isn't.
Some are made to have more RAM some are made to run Smoother.
Wiki.
I might be wrong, but that is what I have learned overtime.
pierhogunn said:
why flash the rom on your phone?
which custom rom does what?
any specific rom for specific purposes?
and finally, what is the best place to start learning about how to do this...
Dan
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Who is your carrier?
Good Question
I am glad you asked this because I have been wondering the same thing.
I have the VZW Touch Pro and was reading a LOT on unlocking and then flashing ROMs. I didnt know really what the benefits were besides speed and making it smoother. Does the ROM allow you to have better themes?
Eventually (sooner than later I think) they will be able to unlock the GPS on VZW as well.
I really wish somebody could post a video or something on YouTube on either how to go about the process or what it looks like after flashing a custom ROM.
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I am glad you asked this because I have been wondering the same thing.
I have the VZW Touch Pro and was reading a LOT on unlocking and then flashing ROMs. I didnt know really what the benefits were besides speed and making it smoother. Does the ROM allow you to have better themes?
Eventually (sooner than later I think) they will be able to unlock the GPS on VZW as well.
I really wish somebody could post a video or something on YouTube on either how to go about the process or what it looks like after flashing a custom ROM.
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Custom ROM"s are highly varried. You need to try them out.
I created a Custom ROM that allows you to stay with the 100% stock look, MUCH MUCH faster than ROM that came with phone.
Lots of others add a bunch of crapware and bloatware to the ROM. I didint do that to this one. I left it stock. It runs very fast.
Custom ROM"s also remove some securuity features like when youa re installing an app you are not questioned if its what you really want to do... Etc...]
Custom ROM's can also c ome with differnt themes like you inquired. They can com completly set up or come completely base. It all depends on what you want to download.
My Carrier is Sprint,
I am fairly happy with the phone as is
My only gripes are that:
it is not as responsive going from app to app as I would like
some of the apps I will never use, like the Sprint music store...
I love to diddle and play with my hardware
I do like touch-flo 3D, I think it's a nice UI, I just wish it was a bit more responsive
Dan
scrosler said:
Custom ROM"s are highly varried. You need to try them out.
I created a Custom ROM that allows you to stay with the 100% stock look, MUCH MUCH faster than ROM that came with phone.
Lots of others add a bunch of crapware and bloatware to the ROM. I didint do that to this one. I left it stock. It runs very fast.
Custom ROM"s also remove some securuity features like when youa re installing an app you are not questioned if its what you really want to do... Etc...]
Custom ROM's can also c ome with differnt themes like you inquired. They can com completly set up or come completely base. It all depends on what you want to download.
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Thank you so much for the information scrosler! I also read your other thread about the custom ROM you made. I am very thankful for you taking the time to do this for us VZW allies. I am a first to admit that I am a noob at unlocking and flashing ROMs. I dont doubt that I could simply follow the detailed instructions that you have given us. I just want to make sure that the payoff is worth it.
Is there anyway (this really may be asking too much) that you could post a video so we could see exactly what your ROM looks like and the increased speed. Or even a video of the process? Maybe even some screen shots.
I know I will end up unlocking and flashing any day. I have my phone set up just the way I like it with many beneficial programs installed, but it is not fast enough or responsive enough. I personally don't use the Touch Flo (as sexy at it looks) just because the WinMo UI works a lot better for me and is more responsive.
Again, thank you for being so kind and sharing your knowledge and not demeaning us or being rude for all the questions we ask I greatly appreciate the time and dedication it takes to create something like this and I respect it!
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Thank you so much for the information scrosler! I also read your other thread about the custom ROM you made. I am very thankful for you taking the time to do this for us VZW allies. I am a first to admit that I am a noob at unlocking and flashing ROMs. I dont doubt that I could simply follow the detailed instructions that you have given us. I just want to make sure that the payoff is worth it.
Is there anyway (this really may be asking too much) that you could post a video so we could see exactly what your ROM looks like and the increased speed. Or even a video of the process? Maybe even some screen shots.
I know I will end up unlocking and flashing any day. I have my phone set up just the way I like it with many beneficial programs installed, but it is not fast enough or responsive enough. I personally don't use the Touch Flo (as sexy at it looks) just because the WinMo UI works a lot better for me and is more responsive.
Again, thank you for being so kind and sharing your knowledge and not demeaning us or being rude for all the questions we ask I greatly appreciate the time and dedication it takes to create something like this and I respect it!
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I cant do a video, lack the ability, hehehe... I can however tell you this:
It looks and actis identical to the Stock ROM from VZW except is was built on a new CE OS. Its considerably snapier than the stock ROM in everything from boot up to touchflo scrolling.
Its 99.99% stock. The only differnece is the speed, IE 6, ICS, and Net CF 3.5 is all cooked in. It, unlike all other custom ROM's, has all stock VZW apps and the VZW touchFlow. Its a straight rip from a stock VZW leaked ROM. The details ont he ROM and the kitchen used are in the new thread.
Its just to easy to do.
Download file A, run it. Download file B, run it. Its not that much harder in all honesty.
pierhogunn said:
My Carrier is Sprint,
I am fairly happy with the phone as is
My only gripes are that:
it is not as responsive going from app to app as I would like
some of the apps I will never use, like the Sprint music store...
I love to diddle and play with my hardware
I do like touch-flo 3D, I think it's a nice UI, I just wish it was a bit more responsive
Dan
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This thread will make your day.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44583
Also see this one.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42730
Have fun.
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cforster said:
This thread will make your day.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44583
Also see this one.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42730
Have fun.
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Awesome Link!!! I just wish they had this same thing for the VZW Version!
Another stupid question...
Well I think this would be the appropriate thread to ask this.
I was wondering if there was any way to put 2 today screens into one instead of having to switch. Basically I am wanting a Touch Flo today screen at the top and the bottom half I would like to have a WinMo today screen with the two quick buttons at the bottom. Is this possible or am I just wanting too much? It seems like the themes for the Touch Flo look much better and I LOVE the black themes.
Any info. would be much appreciated!
Are we all waiting on the GB fix? It is nice to have a phone and not have it flashed every other day but it makes me sad that we are at a standstill. Thank you devs for everything that you have done thus far and I look forward to trying out new things when everyone comes back! I just really wanted to say that I miss you all!
... There was an update on a GB rom today... I mean a new Kernel was just released and the radio was just posted yesturday... I am not sure what you are talking about I feel the devs are quite alive here still tickin'. I feel like this post is going to get flamed.
I know what he means, it just feels dead in here. There probably is more behind the scenes, but for us common folk it seems dead.
Yea. I feel ya man. It feels dead. I felt the same way but the radio and some rom update seems Alive bbut I only want the new and still waiting for bamf.. but finally saw pr3 so gonna jump on that boat.
sent from my........(rebooting)..... thunderbolt.
I'm seeing lots of new ROMs and some with accompanying radios. Yesterday I installed the Chingy MR2 radio and Gingeritis IX, and all works great, no reboots.
Right now I'm downloading Th3ory of Ginger and and Th3ory3.0CandyV3, and those came with an MR2 radio, so it looks like things are all clear now? I gotta get my flash fix !
Feel free to start learning how to write and hack code, otherwise wait patiently and quit posting threads asking even if it's in a way that tries to be polite .
Unless you've had experience in writing code, it's hard to understand why things take so long so just imagine you're given a huge pile of parts and only half the directions to put it together (given the half from android and missing the half from htc, which htc was also nice enough to put in a format you cant easily read without translating). Your family keeps asking you "are you done yet??? You say no, it'll be done when it's done. So yeah. Working on a sense based android phone is sort of like that in the best way I can give a metaphor in non technical terms.
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Feel free to start learning how to write and hack code, otherwise wait patiently and quit posting threads asking even if it's in a way that tries to be polite .
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Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
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Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
Sent from my Cubed ThunderBolt!
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It's okay to wonder, sure. However, dont you think someone would post something if there was something new in the developers forum? Developers might hate being asked when something will be out, but the one thing developers like to tell the world about is something new and shiny they just made.
Just from my experience, the only people that can really pester a developer about when something should be done are paying clients. Even those get annoying, because developers sort of have a pet peeve against giving a set deadline since things generally don't go according to plan, especially when you cant estimate the project scope for something like android.
Might not agree with me and I'm relatively new to developing on android and haven't coded/hacked anything impressive enough to show yet, but I have linux development experience on other platforms and can just say how developers feel from my own experience of working with clients and free advice/work I've given elsewhere.
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Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
Sent from my Cubed ThunderBolt!
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X2. I agree
nhartse1 said:
Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
Sent from my Cubed ThunderBolt!
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Wondering is fine but you might not have posted this if you read the dev forums. Plenty is going on so just your perception is at a stand still.
I just bought my Thunderbolt yesterday...and I'm coming from the Samsung Mesmerize. The difference in dev support is like night and day. Dev support was half the reason I bought the Thunderbolt. Keep up the good work guys.
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I am looking for a custom HC or ICS ROM without Sense and a few other customizations. I posted a job in the Job Market but have't had anyone contact me yet. I used another ad as my template but have no idea what most of the qualifications that I listed even mean but I figured that they are relevant. (lol-I can follow directions to root and flash, but that's where it ends) I'm not sure what is possible in terms of my wish list, but we have to start somewhere. I just sourced 40 HTC Flyers and have my work cut out for me having these ready in the next couple of months.
The dev community for the flyer/view is small (but dedicated!) here. You might do better to either place a bounty on it, so others could help, or maybe contact the cyanogenmod team to see if a donation/support pledge would spark interest in a port of cm9.
I'd love to see cm9 on my view.
edit: I see there is a bounty thread here
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I am looking for a custom HC or ICS ROM without Sense and a few other customizations. I posted a job in the Job Market but have't had anyone contact me yet. I used another ad as my template but have no idea what most of the qualifications that I listed even mean but I figured that they are relevant. (lol-I can follow directions to root and flash, but that's where it ends) I'm not sure what is possible in terms of my wish list, but we have to start somewhere. I just sourced 40 HTC Flyers and have my work cut out for me having these ready in the next couple of months. I have the company checkbook at my disposal. Any takers?
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If you want a ROM without Sense, DeSensified HC is the best solution for know (still some Sense elements but it's pretty clean), Chaosz-X, I and many others are trying to get an AOSP ICS working, but it will take time to get it stable. So until that dream comes true I recommend DeSensified HC.
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The dev community for the flyer/view is small (but dedicated!) here. You might do better to either place a bounty on it, so others could help, or maybe contact the cyanogenmod team to see if a donation/support pledge would spark interest in a port of cm9.
I'd love to see cm9 on my view.
edit: I see there is a bounty thread here
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I've used CM ROMS before and yes, they are always good quality and stable. This "bounty" thing that you speak of...first I've heard of it. I'll look into it. Thanks for the tips!
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If you want a ROM without Sense, DeSensified HC is the best solution for know (still some Sense elements but it's pretty clean), Chaosz-X, I and many others are trying to get an AOSP ICS working, but it will take time to get it stable. So until that dream comes true I recommend DeSensified HC.
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That is what I running right now and considering that the developer says it's his first ROM, I am impressed. It works very nicely so far. I did have a wifi repeated disconnect issue but was told by another user that it's a HC thing and not the ROM. It was suggested that I assign a static. Did that and seeing how it goes. On another note...I wasn't aware that offering $ for a ROM could possibly get me into some heat here so I edited my post. Someone clued me on that and I am grateful. It would suck big time to get banned from here. This place is such an awesome resource. Feeling "bafoonish". Anyway, I have a little more info than I had an hour ago, so thank you both for putting in your 2 cents!
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That is what I running right now and considering that the developer says it's his first ROM, I am impressed. It works very nicely so far. I did have a wifi repeated disconnect issue but was told by another user that it's a HC thing and not the ROM. It was suggested that I assign a static. Did that and seeing how it goes. On another note...I wasn't aware that offering $ for a ROM could possibly get me into some heat here so I edited my post. Someone clued me on that and I am grateful. It would suck big time to get banned from here. This place is such an awesome resource. Feeling "bafoonish". Anyway, I have a little more info than I had an hour ago, so thank you both for putting in your 2 cents!
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We welcome you, the Flyer community is a small but supportive community, and you haven't to offer $ from ROM's but what you always can do is donate money to developers working on ROM's to keep motivating them to improve their ROM's or bringing AOSP ICS closer
Hi!
I am a NOOB here..(yes my post will prove it) but I know from what I have read online and from other sites that someone here may be able to help me.. I know once this is read someone will want to post"Why didn't you search first?" Well I did and came up with a ton of threads(some relevant and some not but none really were what I am looking for I think) I am constantly travelling with my company and really do not have the time that some here may have to search all the posts for what I am looking for..plus I suffer from severe adhd which unless it is laid out step by step I get distracted and wander..like I am doing now lol... So please be gentle and I hope someone here can find the time to answer my question.. And again thanks
Here goes!!-
Been a lurker for awhile but been away(overseas) came back and had a great deal( I thought) on a viewsonic gtab cross my desk for 125.00...so I took the plunge from casual reading on net that I could root etc.. I have never owned a tablet so this is my first..
HELP ME LOVE MY GTAB!!!
Now I didnt know which subforum this belongs and if the mods have to move it so be it.. but I need help..and this is the help I am looking for-
I hate the tapntap..I want to root but do not know which rom to go with..I game alot and watch videos alot and grooveip alot... I hope that helps people in the suggestions for which rom I should use. I am computer savvy and follow instructions well...so please point me to anything that might help..I of course would love to have the latest (ics) but hear there is some limited functionality..if I am incorrect in this and some of the limitations in gingerbread please feel free to correct me.
I like to tinker...any cool tinkering/hacks I can do to this tab(that wont completely brick it lol) any sites to suggest..sites for people that love their gtab etc
Basically I just want to feel I got a good deal and I want to root but dunno which one to go to..and I want to keep my camera (for now) but if I see I am not using it much I may flash to something else later...but guys give me all your advice on which rom I should go to first that is the most stable and will suit the needs I outlined earlier... thank you for letting me be long winded..
BTW I love the site but feel overwhelmed with this..which is why I posted..so don't hate..appreciate that I look to your knowledge lol
Hi Bro!
Like you I was kind of lose with all this information about Gtab. My poor english made of google translator do not help me. But if you read a lot, perhaps you can reach something.
Did you know that site? http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
Well, that name isnt encouraging, but you will found good and easy information in this site. You know, easy steps, everything explained. Good to begin with.
Currently I am using this rom :Beasty/Clemsyn Ultimate Froyo Combo - Simply THE BEST (1.2 bootloader only)
Very fast, good for everything and all things are working, I guess.
Well, read a lot, read again and try something. As always, If you brick your gadget, all responsability is your. Let us know if something go wrong. If you reach success, let us know too. Is good substantiate, your problems can help other people in future.
As I already said, sorry for my poor english.
Good luck Dude.
I agree with jonnybr. Beastly-Clemsyn is my favorite rom when it comes to the stability and speed, at least for me, nothing else has matched it. Everything works, camera, hardware accel., even newer versions of most Gapps and most games work with no problem at all. Only exception is that if you use a USB mouse with your tablet, the orientation will be messed up but that's the price you pay for Skype to work.
If you are quite savvy and enjoy tinkering, maybe try a few different roms and see what you like best. Some of the others that are great are FrankenTab, CM7 (runs great but no HW accel.) and of course ICS (no camera yet and still a Beta build), but if you are looking for a working camera, low risk of problems and stability your best bet is to try one of the Froyo roms like Beastly or FrankenTab.
Funny, I started messing around with mine when I first got it to add functionality and make this thing actually useful and enjoyable. Come to find out, I get more use and enjoyment out of tinkering and messing with it than I do actually using it for it's intended purpose!
I have to agree with jonnybr as well. We were all noobies to at one point, but you made a well worth investment on the tablet. This tablet is virtually brick proof with the NVflash method. If it where me I would stick with a 1.2 boot loader, you can get the NVflash file from the link posted by jonnybr. That boot loader is ultimately the best for stability and reliability. Beastly rom is the best for a froyo rom. For visual pleasure I would lean towards VeganTab. Granted HW accel. is not the greatest, its a hacked version, but it is a 2.3 Gingerbread rom. A lot of potential with that particular rom. For me I currently am using DRH ICS since I don't really use my camera for anything special. This thing is more or less my touch screen netbook. Happy hunting.
Why has this been locked?? There are no ICS ROM's that are any good??? Santod's basic ROM is just debloated stock.....
I really don't understand why they find the need to play God around here.... There are no ROM's!!! At this point there is no reason for an XDA Thunderbolt page!
STOP LOCKING THREADS... WHO GIVES A CRAP THAT IT IS OFF SANTOD'S BASE... THIS IS WHY THE PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE ANDROID... TOO MUCH POLITICS AND BULL CRAP.. JUST LET THESE GUYS MAKE GOOD ROMS SO WE CAN ENJOY OURSELVES...
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BUILDING OFF OTHER PEOPLES WORK.. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S CELL PHONE SOFTWARE!
JESUS H CHRIST..,..
Where can I find this ROM now? It has been removed from roots wiki as well?
5 custom ICS roms and 4 stock roms >>> HERE
Look around, there is more then just a stock rom there.
Don't speak about something you do not know the details of.
XDA has rules, so do other sites and when it comes to disrespecting me and the source from which you got your materials from, I then have rules too.
Besides, I have been told numerous times now that what I contributed wasn't anything, and easy enough to do.
So there should be no problem with it standing in any real devs way.
They simply make their own base and move on.
So crying about it is unnecessary for anyone involved, including me.
Everyone just does their own thing and moves on, simple as that.
I am hating on you Santod.. I have a lot of respect for you and i am sure everyone does.. I am on your rom right now.. The non eternity one... And it is honestly awesome, i just want a more aosp rom, i know you have a desense rom in the making but it has been pulled for weeks now.. I wanted to see mack, you, and jester all make a combined kick ass rom.. I am crying because i just want to see the tbolt finally succeed and with the help of all you great devs and hopefully an htc source code release.. The day may come.. I think you should all work together... Everyone respects all the devs but its awesome to see you guya work together.
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It's still on the host server and plenty are running it.
Check the last few pages of the thread....
I believe I posted 3-4 updates on that rom, this week alone.
Wow now I remember why I just got over this phone and moved on. Santod040 is the only one that attempted to integrate the patches into gb to get ICS for you guys. It wasn't a typical ruu, a lot of work had to go into that integration. And then everyone acted like it was open season on his work. His attitude might have been better if he was ever asked in the first place for it to be used. But he wasn't, and none of the other ICS roms really were any different than any of his. And I have seen a lot of people say that integrating the patches was easy work, but yet no other dev has done it themselves. There's a difference between development and taking someone else's rom zip, theming it, adding other tweaks also developed by someone else, and calling it yours.
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Wow now I remember why I just got over this phone and moved on. Santod040 is the only one that attempted to integrate the patches into gb to get ICS for you guys. It wasn't a typical ruu, a lot of work had to go into that integration. And then everyone acted like it was open season on his work. His attitude might have been better if he was ever asked in the first place for it to be used. But he wasn't, and none of the other ICS roms really were any different than any of his. And I have seen a lot of people say that integrating the patches was easy work, but yet no other dev has done it themselves. There's a difference between development and taking someone else's rom zip, theming it, adding other tweaks also developed by someone else, and calling it yours.
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This is a pretty good explanation of where I think santod is coming from even though it isn't coming from him directly. All of you are acting like it was some walk in the park or something to assemble the ota but it sure is taking all of you a lot longer than it took him to do.
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This is a pretty good explanation of where I think santod is coming from even though it isn't coming from him directly. All of you are acting like it was some walk in the park or something to assemble the ota but it sure is taking all of you a lot longer than it took him to do.
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Not really trying to speak for him, just back him up. It seems the easier rooting/roming becomes the less people seem to understand (or care to understand) what goes into development. They just want it now and don't care how they get it.
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Everybody respects Santod... but his ROM's are not on XDA they are on Infected Roms.... I am on his NuSense Rom for a while now.... It just seems ridiculous that Mack and Santod could not work together IMO... Now if Mack was refusing to give Santod his fully deserved credit for the Base and Stock Rom then yeah I understand.
I am not hating on Santod what so ever... I am getting the best battery life ever on his NuSense Sense 3.6 Rom... With Nova Launcher it actually moves pretty nice too for stock kernel...
Let's be honest though... Sense 3.6 sucks... Sense Sucks... We all want AOSP.. That is not happening until the Source get's released... so a Desensed Rom is something of extreme interest.
I can not wait for the Jelato Santod Rom to be done... I just figured maybe Mack or Jester may be able to throw Santod some ideas maybe and before you know if we would have a 10x better DeSensed ROM then if it was just by one particular Dev.
Yeah I mean the only thing that bugs me is that while Santod makes a good rom, he cant help himself from customizing it the way *he* likes it, and not the general public at times. Every time I use one of his roms I'm like "wow, amazing performance, sweet battery life, all the features but wtf is up with this font? Why this theme?". It'd be like getting a rewritten AOSP rom built from HTC's source, and then shipping it with a hello kitty theme I liked Mack's work because it had that truly vanilla feel to it with all the under the hood tweaks a launcher like Apex can offer. The new Jelato rom actually runs worse than the unsense rom, albeit just slightly. It's certainly better than Sense, but still kinda leaves something to be desired.
I guess what I ultimately dont get is why anybody cares if someone else rips off your work. It's not like either of them are being paid here, which means it all comes down to fame and recognition. If your motives are pure, and you are simply doing this for the community, then you should be happy that someone went and tweaked a new flavor of your rom for everybody to use. Why there's this whole desire for credit is beyond me. Seems kinda conceited. "How dare you steal my charitable donations!" What have you got to lose?
Like I said, I really dont want to see just one rom developer out there. If santod is the only one left with the skill to properly port these things, then he should be supportive of others customizing his work. It does do him or the community any good to horde all his development unless there's some sort of financial incentive in it for him and he needs revenue from this somehow. And if he gets bored or offended and quits then the TB community just dies forever? That sucks. If the only people left willing to contribute are kanger's, then let them! We cant have our entire community rest in the hands of one developer.
I support and help anybody and everybody that treats me with an ounce of respect.
IT IS NOT ABOUT CREDIT!!!!
I could give a **** about credits or your complaints about my theming.
Maybe the theming is my way of saying it's mine.
The original UnSense was about as Vanilla as it gets really.
If you don't like what I have to offer up, then don't use it, it's simple.
If the fact that someone else left their rom half sense and half aosp makes it more vanilla for you, then fine.
Use his pieced together rom, I don't care.
What do you guys want from me?
Sure, treat me like an asshole, but feel free to help yourself to my stuff....
Anyone whining about this still, needs to get a life.
Any real developer wouldn't have batted an eye, made their own base and rolled along.
If what I contributed was "nothing" and easy to do, why all the fuss?
By the way, everyone else loves the theme, you happen to be the first to complain about how it looks.
There is this thing called UOT and another called apktool, maybe you should find those and learn to use them, before you go criticizing anymore work of others.
You may find yourself with ZERO rom options!
Any useful thread on the matter that is not just santod vs the world or people complaining about locked threads will not be closed.
This is not such a thread.
They serve no useful purpose for the community.
If you have issue with this PM me, I am not looking to "play God" or any some such activity, but the denizens of this community must be spared such drama as found in this thread.
Let's all work together to create a better development community.