I've just started using my S3 in my car connected to a car charger and have started noticing it gives the phone a super charge which means that I still have about 80% battery after about 6 hours use, this compared to around 50% battery if I was just to use my normal charger.
However my normal charger has a splitter cable on it which also charges my spare battery which is in a Samsung desk stand (sold as a Extra battery kit). It got me thinking can chargers give a different level of charge to a battery, even though they still 100% charge it?
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I've just started using my S3 in my car connected to a car charger and have started noticing it gives the phone a super charge which means that I still have about 80% battery after about 6 hours use, this compared to around 50% battery if I was just to use my normal charger.
However my normal charger has a splitter cable on it which also charges my spare battery which is in a Samsung desk stand (sold as a Extra battery kit). It got me thinking can chargers give a different level of charge to a battery, even though they still 100% charge it?
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Yes, several custom kernels have settings to adjust mains and usb charging currents
so, isn't it clear that questions go in the questions section?
I wasn't to sure if the post was going to include a question before I posted it, but if its a problem delete it or whatever I'm not really bothered.
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Has anyone noticed that phone does not charge while using GPS. The charging indicator is on but when I look at the stats it says discharging at -450 mAh. Is this the way it is and if so, is there a fix? 1 hr 42 m with 73% display on battery use and 43% charge remaining, but was plugged in the entire time while driving under an hour home. I am using the same Motorola high performance charger that every other phone is charged fully even when using GPS.
are you absolutely sure the charger is giving the full 1A?
What sensor app are you using to see the battery discharging?
Mine charges normally with gps on.
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I was curious so I tested this with "Battery Monitor" I have it plugged into my laptop currently which only gives +500mA. and not the +1A that you get from a wall/car/high power usb port.
the app is showing +257mA with GPS on and functioning normally.
So charging good here... Might be something with your motorola charger? It could have a sensor in it to detect 'trickle charging mode' that is improperly engaging when connected to the HTC causing the charger to put out a minimal 'sustain only' level of amperage.
good luck!
you need a charger putting out 1A ... most car chargers put out 500mA so find a good one off monoprice
Here's what I'm doing. I have a Belkin 2.1A(2100mAh) USB car charger dongle. The problem is, once i connect the USB cable to it the phone registers it as "Charging USB" and does notcharge anywhere near as fast(power-wise) as if the phone was registering it "Charging AC". I'm not keen on using a power inverter to get the full AC charge so instead i am going to go pick up a cheap micro USB cable, splice it open, then disconnect the data wires(green & white ones) & then tape it back up. By disconnecting the data wires, the phone will no longer think it's a USB connection and then charge via AC, getting the best charge possible.
that should work ^ if thats the problem
I've found that using the included USB cable with a Belkin dual port USB car charger allows the phone to charge as if it were plugged in to a wall. I'm guessing the included cable has a different layout than standard Micro USB cables.
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I've found that using the included USB cable with a Belkin dual port USB car charger allows the phone to charge as if it were plugged in to a wall. I'm guessing the included cable has a different layout than standard Micro USB cables.
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I'm guessing that I have the same belkin dual port (2.1amp and 1amp ports) and the best I've seen out of it is about 250mah charging. This is using the supplied usb/micro hdmi whatever cord for the phone.
I have seen discharge rates off the charger of 750mah which is the highest I've seen on any phone. I'm guessing if you are using the nav on your phone with the screen on, it will probably still be using battery while plugged in.
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I was curious so I tested this with "Battery Monitor" I have it plugged into my laptop currently which only gives +500mA. and not the +1A that you get from a wall/car/high power usb port.
the app is showing +257mA with GPS on and functioning normally.
So charging good here... Might be something with your motorola charger? It could have a sensor in it to detect 'trickle charging mode' that is improperly engaging when connected to the HTC causing the charger to put out a minimal 'sustain only' level of amperage.
good luck!
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Possible, but says AC charging in Battery Monitor widget. I will post a few pics.
Here are a few Pics. you can see a couple of things.
-Charger rated at 950 MA out. and no other phone I have owned lost a charge while driving including TBolt, Charge, Bionic.
-Shows as AC charging
- Spikes of good charging detected
Put on Normal power mode today on the way in. live wallpapers did not wrok, just flickered. 3G on vice 4G. Battery still went down, but above 90% on 40 minute drive in. Screen low but on. Bluetooth speaker.
Maybe it is the iBolt car mount. See review online. will try without dock this afternoon on my way home.
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User: marc frederick, Nov 25, 2011
Pros: Options for different backs
Cons: Does not charge the phone while it is in use
Try playing pandora when the phone is 100 charged. After 45 minutes on the car mount (and yes it is plugged into a charger and all indicatros show it is charging) and the charge level is 84. Using the same charger but plugged into the phone, playing Pandora for 45 min starting charge level 68. Ending charge level is 100.
Yeah, something is telling that charger to not give you full juice
Rezound
ok, drove home off the window mount and just on charger, all same except full brightness on screen.40 minute drive. came up 7% battery vice down from 100 to 43%. nedd a few trials to confirm, but looks like window mount is throttleing juice.
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are you absolutely sure the charger is giving the full 1A?
What sensor app are you using to see the battery discharging?
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i have seen spurts up to 913 with GPS off and screen just turned on. Using battery monitor widget. Not on window mount, just charger.
I can confirm. The car dock will not charge your phone atleast not with the screen on and nothing else running but battery monitor widget.
I bought one and tested it extensively yesterday. I used a Verizon 1a charger and a generic 1a charger. With the dock and both chargerz the phone DIScharged(as in LOST battery power) at between 100ma and 200ma. Without the dock using the same chargers and changing nothing on the phone the phone charged at between 50a and 300ma.
I did the test several times to eliminate any random things the phone may have been doing in the background.
After doing that controlled test I played with it some more and no matter what I did I could not get a positive charge with the dock attached even in airplane mode with the screen backlight at minimum. Without the dock using the same chargers i ran Pandora and a police scanner both outputting through the phone speaker, gps, wifi, mobile all on, and screen on auto and still had a very small positive charge.
Moral of the story DO NOT BUY THIS DOCK unless you dont mind it just being a piece of plastic that holds your phone in place.
I wonder if there's a quick mod to it to get it working right. Like the soldering of the USB chargers I've seen.
Rezound
I just went ahead and bought an extra battery so I wouldn't have to charge in the car. Only takes 20 seconds to pop in a new battery.
Can charge both batts while I sleep at night.
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I was looking for a high current charger for my Android tablet and there was a review that talked about compatibility. Some of the high cap chargers appear to be designed for Apple products and the pin wiring is subtly different. So, on some non-Apple products, the charge is only recognized as a lower power, 500mah charger and the users reported that some devices would normally charge and others would not. Some of the dual port charges also split the power. The 2.1 amp port and the 1 amp port cannot be used at the same time, depending on what is plugged into them. This was also brand specific. I ordered the Amazon Basics 2.1 amp dual charger and will see how that works. I have noticed a difference in charge rates between my Motorola charger left over from the Blackberry and the Verizon OEM one. The VZW one is faster.
I do the same thing I have been doing since my Windows phone days.
I use the AC cord plugged into a 12v to AC adaptor(screen set to 100% bright and no timeout).
I drove 6 hours last week ruuning Google Maps/GPS & my battery was 100% charged when I got to my destination.
~John
I have a dumb question about charging the battery... I'm not very familiar with Li-ion battery technology.
When charging over USB, the USB port can't provide enough amperage to charge the phone quickly. I had my phone plugged in for 3 hours and only got a 20% charge. My original Galaxy (Captivate) has a wall charger that provides 0.7A. The GS3's charger provides 1.0A. I know this phone will charge slower if I use my Captivates charger.
My question... I have a Transformer Prime, and that charger is rated at 1.2A. Will charging with a beefier charger cause any issues with the battery, including but not limited to life on a charge or life period? I can only assume it will get warmer when charging, since I'm pushing more current through it.
Would you charge the battery with a beefier charger? I'm hesitant, but I'm looking for your opinion.
Thanks, and sorry for the dumb question!
-Brian
I have the Transformer too and I interchangeably use the chargers and I have never had an issue on a phone regarding this issue.
However since I have never kept one phone for more than about 6 months I don't know about the long term effects.
I tried to charge my i9100 with an iPad charger once. It hit about 70% and about 120 degrees fahrenheit and then stopped charging. I would say be careful.
Hello XDA,
I'm not sure how this happened, but for the past couple of months I haven't been able to charge my phone while it is turned on. It shows the charging animation but the battery still drains, even with all radios off and screen off. I can leave it charging all night and end up with a nearly flat battery. Plugging it in to any wall socket seems to only slow the draining, and plugging it in to a fully powered USB socket (many tried) keeps it at the same battery level, or very slowly charges it if I don't use it. If I turn it off however, I can charge it until full in the normal time with the original AC charger.
Here's the really strange part: I've tried several new chargers of different brands including samsung and it makes no difference. Not only that, but they won't charge it when powered off either making them completely ineffective. It doesn't initialize the charge properly - the screen either shows a battery with a progress circle over and over again without getting to the charging animation, or displays the charging animation over and over and never charges at all, but nevertheless gets hot.
The chargers I've tried are:
Cygnet for samsung phones including SGS-II
Belkin for Samsung phones including SGS-II
Premium blackberry travel charger
Premium 10W 2A Samsung travel adaptor
One charger that did seem to work while plugged in was from a new Sony Xperia Windows phone charger I borrowed once.
I've exchanged at the store 3 times now with the same result! It must be something wrong with the hardware or software...
I've calibrated the battery, I've had a new battery for a couple of months and normally still lasts all day and more on a full charge. It is a 3rd party high quality Anker battery. The problem is the battery is getting a lot more taxed now that I'm using 3G over the portable hotspot, so its not quite lasting the day anymore.
I've had countless custom ROMs on there now, current ROM is CyanogenMod 10.1 stable. Would returning to stock then reinstalling help?
Something that shouldn't matter is I've moved from the UK to Australia. I'm still using the English charger as its the only one that works. And the Xperia charger that seemed to work was Australian too.
Before it got this bad I think it was getting slower and slower to charge. I had to replace the old USB cable that eventually got really loose, then broke and i've tried several new ones with no improvement in charging ability. Is it possible that the contacts inside the micro-USB socket might have been bent from the old cable moving around so much so that only minimal contact is achieved with any other cable? The new connectors do seem to fit perfectly.
In the attached screenshot, you will see on the left the AC charger is plugged in while battery level goes down, then on the far right its plugged in to a computer and is kept level.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!
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Hello XDA,
I'm not sure how this happened, but for the past couple of months I haven't been able to charge my phone while it is turned on. It shows the charging animation but the battery still drains, even with all radios off and screen off. I can leave it charging all night and end up with a nearly flat battery. Plugging it in to any wall socket seems to only slow the draining, and plugging it in to a fully powered USB socket (many tried) keeps it at the same battery level, or very slowly charges it if I don't use it. If I turn it off however, I can charge it until full in the normal time with the original AC charger.
Here's the really strange part: I've tried several new chargers of different brands including samsung and it makes no difference. Not only that, but they won't charge it when powered off either making them completely ineffective. It doesn't initialize the charge properly - the screen either shows a battery with a progress circle over and over again without getting to the charging animation, or displays the charging animation over and over and never charges at all, but nevertheless gets hot.
The chargers I've tried are:
Cygnet for samsung phones including SGS-II
Belkin for Samsung phones including SGS-II
Premium blackberry travel charger
Premium 10W 2A Samsung travel adaptor
One charger that did seem to work while plugged in was from a new Sony Xperia Windows phone charger I borrowed once.
I've exchanged at the store 3 times now with the same result! It must be something wrong with the hardware or software...
I've calibrated the battery, I've had a new battery for a couple of months and normally still lasts all day and more on a full charge. It is a 3rd party high quality Anker battery. The problem is the battery is getting a lot more taxed now that I'm using 3G over the portable hotspot, so its not quite lasting the day anymore.
I've had countless custom ROMs on there now, current ROM is CyanogenMod 10.1 stable. Would returning to stock then reinstalling help?
Something that shouldn't matter is I've moved from the UK to Australia. I'm still using the English charger as its the only one that works. And the Xperia charger that seemed to work was Australian too.
Before it got this bad I think it was getting slower and slower to charge. I had to replace the old USB cable that eventually got really loose, then broke and i've tried several new ones with no improvement in charging ability. Is it possible that the contacts inside the micro-USB socket might have been bent from the old cable moving around so much so that only minimal contact is achieved with any other cable? The new connectors do seem to fit perfectly.
In the attached screenshot, you will see on the left the AC charger is plugged in while battery level goes down, then on the far right its plugged in to a computer and is kept level.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!
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IMO, u should revert back to a stock samsung Firmware (pertained to ur region) and then see if the issue persists or not to rule out any possible 'Software issue' in the first place
Thank you, I will try that and report back the results.
You can try hawkerpauls nuke if flashing stock doesn't work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100558
is there any tw 4.4.2 kernel with fast charge ? my note 3 is charging very slow from usb ( dont want to bring the wall charger everywhere i go )
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inst1029 said:
is there any tw 4.4.2 kernel with fast charge ? my note 3 is charging very slow from usb ( dont want to bring the wall charger everywhere i go )
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't know fast charge was Kernel specific. Thought it had to do with the cable and plug in?
Any-ways, my two cents are no there is NOT.
With the fast charge app that looks like a battery it is kernel spefic. When u run the application it will either work or say kernel is not supported
The output of a typical computer USB port is a half an amp at five volts DC. If you get a charger, wall or cigarette plug, that is meant for an iPad, it will output 2.1 amps at five volts. It's best, for the battery life and phone, if you don't use a modded kernel for fast charging. Batteries last longer, overall life before replacing them, if they are slow charged. Heat from rapid charging will reduce the overall lifespan of a battery. I'm talking tech like in one hour or less chargers for AA batteries but it still holds true for lithium ion. Heat and hitting a battery hard with an aggressive charging circuit will kill a battery faster. My suggestion is to use a charger that has a max output of 2.1amps, like used with the stock and iPad chargers, to recharge the battery if you're impatient. Better yet, get an official Samsung external charger with battery so you can rotate batteries and have one charging or charged without forcing yourself to have the phone tethered to a charger often. There have been high profile instances where extended capacity batteries have burned up a phone, when charging, because the electronics of the battery were crap or the cells were of crappy quality. Be safe, be smart. Samsung OEM batteries might be expensive and low run time, but they won't usually cause a phone to go into meltdown mode because of their subpar electronics or cells.
As the title states my battery mod fails to charge on charges other than turbo charger, has anyone had luck with working with a different charger?
Mine charges fine on a generic USB-C charger. It's obviously slower, but it works.
I thought I was having the same problem a couple of days ago. It looked like the phone was only charging and the Incipio power pack wasn't. The internal phone battery reached 100% but the mod was showing 0%. I decided to just leave it and surely enough it was charging, just really really slowly. I was using a normal portable charger with a USB-C cable as I was away from home. It takes a very long time to charge both using this setup. Then again, I've found that the battery pack in general takes a long time to charge in comparison to the phone even when using the supplied turbo charger.
HTH
Ooms
dj_ooms said:
I thought I was having the same problem a couple of days ago. It looked like the phone was only charging and the Incipio power pack wasn't. The internal phone battery reached 100% but the mod was showing 0%. I decided to just leave it and surely enough it was charging, just really really slowly. I was using a normal portable charger with a USB-C cable as I was away from home. It takes a very long time to charge both using this setup. Then again, I've found that the battery pack in general takes a long time to charge in comparison to the phone even when using the supplied turbo charger.
HTH
Ooms
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I wonder if anyone else has this issue? I have the Tumi power pack wireless charging battery mod and it charges extremely. I'm using the stock 30w Turbo charger that came with the phone. I loaded up Amphere and the rate I was getting was 290 mah.
I've noticed that while using the phone while charging, when the phone is @100 & [email protected], every time the phone drops to 99 it stops charging the pack and then charges the phone. So, I will just pop the battery on a wireless charger or not use my phone while charging the battery. I have this cool qi/qc3.0 hub that makes charging my phone AND battery a breeze, so that's what I will often do.
Hello I have Moto Z and the Incipio power. It was charging before with phone with the type c charger which come with box but now I don't know the reason the Incipio doesn't charge !! when connect the Incipio give me notification with 97% and after 3 sec it is 0% and not charging from the power or charging the phone same also when power off the phone !! Could you please advise?
Using the official turbocharger provided by Motorola, the Battery pack and the phone battery will both charge at the same time. I have noticed using a generic charger/USB-C cable via the PC to charge, it charges the phone battery first and then only will charge the battery pack (once the phone reaches 100%). That is my experience...