I'm sure this has been discussed but i can't figure out what words to search for to find it.
So when i flash over to a new rom, sometimes after a wipe and reload google play connects and dloads any and all apps i had installed before. This is without any input from me whatsoever.. and sometimes it doesn't. What's the trigger here? what makes this happen or not happen?
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ugzz said:
I'm sure this has been discussed but i can't figure out what words to search for to find it.
So when i flash over to a new rom, sometimes after a wipe and reload google play connects and dloads any and all apps i had installed before. This is without any input from me whatsoever.. and sometimes it doesn't. What's the trigger here? what makes this happen or not happen?
thanks
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When you're setting up the new rom it will usually ask you if you want to sync with the email account you've entered. I leave those beginning sync boxes UNCHECKED. That way, Google Play will not reload all your apps. You can then use Titanium Backup or whatever backup program you might use. Then when you are finished loading everything you want, turn your sync back on in settings.
Long story short, it is the account sync features that cause Google Play to reload all you apps.
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mwshows said:
When you're setting up the new rom it will usually ask you if you want to sync with the email account you've entered. I leave those beginning sync boxes UNCHECKED. That way, Google Play will not reload all your apps. You can then use Titanium Backup or whatever backup program you might use. Then when you are finished loading everything you want, turn your sync back on in settings.
Long story short, it is the account sync features that cause Google Play to reload all you apps.
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Thanks! makes perfect sense now, because on this reload the setup wizard crashed on me, last time it went though and i did hit sync. this time i added an account later. Had similar story on my old phone, presumably due to similar reasons.
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Thanks! makes perfect sense now, because on this reload the setup wizard crashed on me, last time it went though and i did hit sync. this time i added an account later. Had similar story on my old phone, presumably due to similar reasons.
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Hello , like many of you , i flash my phone quite often. It seems like we always have a new update or new rom . Trust me , im not complaining . I think its amazing .
I am using Titanium Backup now , but its quite a task to sit there and click install on 80+ apps . Is there a way we can auto install our apps with each flash ? Im not positive , but i think busybox can do something to this degree .. but havent really been able to find a cut and dry explanation .
Thanks guys
Just pay the titanium dude and get prO and its a three click task. And while the phones restoring...More time to spend searching for stuff.
Wow I didn't know that was a perk to the pro version. Buying it now. Thanks.
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google also auto restores your apps now.. it did it when I flashed and wiped everything to 2.8 again, and my 3 apps I had previously downloaded were automatically restored by Google, lol.
Yeah that has been hit or miss for me lately ... mostly miss
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Here is a work around I've been using. In TiBu, go to option, more, and create "update.zip". This will put a cwm flashable zip on your SD card that you can use to put TiBu back and everything else before entering your gmail info and giving OTA access to unwanted app downloads. After you restore what you want you can go to manage applications and clear market info so when you finally log on and go to the market it "should" only populate the apps you have installed already in 'my apps'. This might not totally work but it should cut back on unwanted downloads. Let me know if this method works out better for you.
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Just thought I would share this from another thread on the subject of google auto restore.
verrrryyy interesting...
This was offered up in that same thread after the 'update.zip' method was suggested:
You can avoid this by skipping account creations at first boot, just hit skip skip next skip. Then you can go into settings and make sure data backup is unchecked. This prevents automatic data backup/restore when you do log into your account. Now log into your Google account. During setup it will ask if you want your data backed up, make sure to uncheck that! It actually comes up with a message that asks if you really want to delete existing backups on Google servers? Of course you do want it to so this won't happen again.
After hacking the phone to run webtop without the docks, I was just going about my phone and was curious about the "System updates" button and got this:
Social Networking account required
"com.android.setttings.deviceinfo.CheckUpdate" is not available without a social networking account. To create a new account, click "Setup" button
When I click the setup button, nothing happens. Did I mess up one of the files during the process of hacking my phone, because before attempting the webtop hack, when I still had root and adeo on, I did not get this message.
Account syncing: my facebook account will not sync with the contacts on my phone. The social networking app and widget is not running properly for the same reason as from the message given above ^^.
Can someone help me with this? Thanks
Did you use Titanium Backip to freeze apps. This is a symptom of freezing apps. To get this to work unfreeze all your apps and make sure the MotoBlur account is syncing.
I didn't use titanium backup to freeze any of the apps. I'm still kind of new to android and so I might need some guidance in more simpler terms
Did you create a blur account?
yes and it was already linked when I received my unit on the 21st
would it be reasonable to attempt a factory reset, even though I rooted it and installed ADEO?
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Did you use Titanium Backip to freeze apps. This is a symptom of freezing apps. To get this to work unfreeze all your apps and make sure the MotoBlur account is syncing.
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What exactly does freezing do? I can't seem to find a answer on the net. Can one manually "defrost" a frozen app?
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What exactly does freezing do? I can't seem to find a answer on the net. Can one manually "defrost" a frozen app?
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I think so, I'm pretty sure TiBu just adds a ".bak" to the application because when you freeze something it's still in your app drawer until you restart your phone vs when it's uninstalled its gone instantly. The benifit to freezing vs uninstalling is if you freeze the wrong thing or want it back it's still there, but if you uninstall it it's gone and you'd need to ask someone else for it or something.
anyone solved this error? I also got the error today
Is your phone deodexed? That could be the problem maybe.
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Adeo v0.2 will break your Blur widgets.
So now that adeo does this how can i get upfates
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So I just got the sgs3, and after i set up my google account, it started downloading ALL my apps from my sgs2? I also have a nexus 7 with the same account and I think it may be pulling apps from there as well.
I do not want google to download all these apps, a lot of them are useless which I never removed. I couldn't find a way to stop the downloads, they just kept going. So I did a factory reset in the middle. I want to know how to prevent this before I set it up again.
I want to know that too, I am using only SGS 3 but my old phone was an Atrix. When I flash a ROM google start to install my apps, sometimes is nice but some others not.
Instructions !!
To stop your phone from restoring your apps you will want to avoid signing in with your google account at first boot, after you have then run through the setup process the first thing you want to do is head to the Settings -->Back up and reset page.
You then should see an option that says automatic restore -- untick this option. This will then tell the phone that you dont want your apps and data to restore without your consent
After you have completed this you are free to add your google account in settings and continue to use your phone as new!
I hope this helps
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When you first set up your phone, it asks whether you want to back the device onto google. An option under it would ask whether you'd like to restore from google. Uncheck the option and you'll be left in peace.
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When you first set up your phone, it asks whether you want to back the device onto google. An option under it would ask whether you'd like to restore from google. Uncheck the option and you'll be left in peace.
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This is also true, although it isn't available on all roms! Although I never understood why!
Hope this helps,
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I just went from Paranoid Android to CyanogenMod, and expected to have to re-add several apps. If I go from an AOSP ROM back to a TouchWiz ROM, it is treated as a different device, and I get an app list months old. I was pleased to see Android attempting to download my newest set of apps...
However, the sync failed like it does 50% of the time (every app individually fails). Now when I visit the Google Play store, I see my 'new' phone with only a couple of apps installed. I just lost the entire list. Since there's no way to batch install apps with the Play Store, I get to spend a looooong time looking up and reinstalling them by clicking around like an idiot.
Am I missing something? Every element of the story I just described seems like awful design. I'd really not like to resort to AppBrain or something like it. It's incredibly stupid that if the Play Store has some error syncing apps, it makes the new short list the new goal for syncing (so, it won't even try next time).
In short, it would be ideal to have my list of installed apps tied to my account, so that in the event of a problem, I could just push a large "Yes, download ****ing everything" button. Apps that aren't compatible with THIS device can just be skipped I guess. Why is this so hard? Instead I'm going down my 'All' list on my phone, tapping 5 times per app to install them one by ****ing one.
Why don't you just backup apps with titanium and then restore them when you flash a new rom? Titanium has batch commands so it's pretty much one click for each. You can also set up a back up schedule so things are always backed up
Aside from my hesitation to use another app to perform a function that is already supported...
Is Titanium storing the apps themselves, or a list of apps? I really really really do not want to store several MB/GB of data which may or may not be corrupted. If anything, I want to simply store a list of apps, which will all re-download upon restoring the backup.
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Aside from my hesitation to use another app to perform a function that is already supported...
Is Titanium storing the apps themselves, or a list of apps? I really really really do not want to store several MB/GB of data which may or may not be corrupted. If anything, I want to simply store a list of apps, which will all re-download upon restoring the backup.
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Yea it will store all the apps. But if they are working, they probably aren't corrupt.
Also, I have had a few phones over the years linked to my Google account and the play store is never segmented by phone. All my apps that I have been using since my OG Droid show up on my note 2. The times I have let the play store sync my apps they all downloaded fine as long as your screen doesn't turn off which you can force to stay on in the dev settings
I have been using titanium for 5 years now. And have restored my apps literally hundreds of times. Never once did it not work. Never had a single failure. I also have only had the play store re install my apps once. That was the very first time time I flashed a rom back on my droid. That was the first and only time it did that.
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Simply as a matter of principle, I am not concerned with storing the apps themselves. The entire point of the app sync is to keep track of what I have installed. Backing up the apps themselves strikes me as a different goal entirely.
I've had many successful restores myself, but just as many failures. It isn't that difficult of a task... and if it does fail, when every app for some reason (even if it is a legitimate one) isn't installed , there's no way to retry the process. Your new list of synced apps is now the tiny amount that succeeded, the rest are lost to needing to manually reselect. This is absurd.
Multiple phones are definitely treated as separate app lists. I have 5 devices on my Play Store account; each has its own list of associated apps.
This is because every time you flash your phone, or factory reset for that matter, your phone gets a new device ID. That makes it look like a new device to the play store. This will happen anytime you flash a ROM and wipe data. Dirty flashes do not change the ID.
If you use titanium back up, it automatically stores your device ID, so it will prompt you to revert it back the first time opening it after flashing the ROM. This will allow you to maybe reinstall apps through play store, or at least keep the "app list".
I personally think you are being petty about this. It's not Google's fault you are constantly flashing your phone and creating new app ID's.
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I have had the play store fail upon sync before, but it has never failed to keep the list of all the apps I've installed on any device tied to my google account. Strange that said list got wiped for you.
I'd just install a backup app and call it a day. I use Ultimate Backup Pro, by Jrummy. The newest version will sync your apps (a list, or the data) to Dropbox, Box, or Google Drive.
^^^ +1 for this
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This is because every time you flash your phone, or factory reset for that matter, your phone gets a new device ID. That makes it look like a new device to the play store. This will happen anytime you flash a ROM and wipe data. Dirty flashes do not change the ID.
If you use titanium back up, it automatically stores your device ID, so it will prompt you to revert it back the first time opening it after flashing the ROM. This will allow you to maybe reinstall apps through play store, or at least keep the "app list".
I personally think you are being petty about this. It's not Google's fault you are constantly flashing your phone and creating new app ID's.
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I'd like to agree that it is petty, or believe the terms of the problem as you describe them.
It isn't petty that a feature is not working correctly. Flashing a phone gives a new device ID, but so does losing it, or replacing it. You're passing off the lack of harmony as my mistake.
The mere fact none of us can find a way to retry the app sync proves my point; this argument alone brings me a bit of closure, because at least I am not the only one with the issue. If you are all happy with backing up actual program data instead of realizing the power of a synced list, fine. To suggest this behavior is the intention of Google, however, is nonsense.
...and one last word: if it were as simple as getting a new device ID upon each flash, surely I'd be able to log in to the Play Store and view the list of apps on my 'old' device, right? How does Google know that device no longer exists? How are the two ideas of "syncing apps, but not across different devices" and "getting a new ID upon flash, then attempting to sync" both able to exist?
Perhaps I'm wrong about all of this, but can you really say using 3rd party software to remedy a failed sync is not noteworthy? I specifically remember myself mocking the idea of avoiding 3rd party software when a user wanted to solve a problem... this is much different. This is a legitimate issue with an existing feature.
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If you are all happy with backing up actual program data instead of realizing the power of a synced list, fine.
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No one said you should backup/restore app data, just the app itself. The app data is actually frowned upon for the most part. Although I have done it numerous times and have never had an issue, but that's a whole different can of worms
But in the end, you do what you want to do.
You are tilting at windmills.
There is a reason everyone uses an app backup program like Titanium or My Backup Pro (those are the two I use). It's the easiest/fastest way to restore apps. Google backup and restore was not intended for 'us' who root. No amount of believing its wrong the way it works is going to change that.
There are apps that will only backup the market link (to your storage) but the only one I know of does not have a one button restore. But it's called App List Backup if you want to check it out.
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I love titanium backup. The fact that I can backup all of my apps and restore them plus restore data, such as the music that's already buffered on Google play music is great. Is a time saver! Imop
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I still feel like you guys are misunderstanding me (mostly, yes, I've tried App List Backup, and it's alright, "Google should already do this better" aside)...
Backing up programs themselves to create some huge file is a completely different thing than maintaining a list of installed apps on Google's servers. Completely different things. You may be willing to say they accomplish the same goal, something I disagree with. Let's stop talking about rooting and flashing, and start considering the idea of a lost/broken/corrupted phone. If the Google app sync worked better (in terms of reliability or feature set), it would be a painless task to have a new phone redownload all apps installed on the old one.
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I still feel like you guys are misunderstanding me (mostly, yes, I've tried App List Backup, and it's alright, "Google should already do this better" aside)...
Backing up programs themselves to create some huge file is a completely different thing than maintaining a list of installed apps on Google's servers. Completely different things. You may be willing to say they accomplish the same goal, something I disagree with. Let's stop talking about rooting and flashing, and start considering the idea of a lost/broken/corrupted phone. If the Google app sync worked better (in terms of reliability or feature set), it would be a painless task to have a new phone redownload all apps installed on the old one.
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You like to find problems instead of solutions. Sure it's a little bit of work to go down the Google Play list and install the one you want but how often are you planning to break/lose/corrupt your phone?
Backup file size. Backup to dropbox. Backup to your SDCard. Move your backup file to your PC.
Restoring a device to the way it was. Do a nandroid. Use your extSDCard. Root the new phone and restore. Boom exactly the way you left it.
I think you already mentioned that you didn't want to use AppBrain. But that is another potential solution.
I realize you want a perfect native Google solution but we are not the ones who can solve that for you. It would be a nice feature, but I still wouldn't use it. App backup gives me more control with really no downside. And nandroid is a perfect system restore with data intact.
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I need to factory reset my Oppo a16 but I don't want to keep ANY settings that are now set in any of the apps but as you can see from the screenshot, it's enable but it doesn't allow me to turn it down. What can I do to turn it down please and factory reset the Oppo cleanly? Thanks!
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I need to factory reset my Oppo a16 but I don't want to keep ANY settings that are now set in any of the apps but as you can see from the screenshot, it's enable but it doesn't allow me to turn it down. What can I do to turn it down please and factory reset the Oppo cleanly? Thanks!
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IIRC, you can remove the Google backup account. When you attempt to do that, you will be asked to confirm whether it is ok to delete all backups. Click 'yes' and remove the account. To be on the safer side, reboot and then factory reset. Should work.
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IIRC, you can remove the Google backup account. When you attempt to do that, you will be asked to confirm whether it is ok to delete all backups. Click 'yes' and remove the account. To be on the safer side, reboot and then factory reset. Should work.
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Hi tsmani, thanks for your prompt response. I'm really an ignorant in this matter but as far as I know I think I've done exactly that by every single app in the phone --attach screenshots. I only have a Google email account open but in Firefox and in desktop format. As far as I know I've NEVER backed up my stuff to a Google account. I have had around 10 different phones in the last year. Could that play a role, despite me not backing up on them either? Every morning I login on my Google accounts and have to revoke some of them. I really need a drastic solution to end up with this.
Some more screenshots of what I've done to try.
And another screenshot.
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Hi tsmani, thanks for your prompt response. I'm really an ignorant in this matter but as far as I know I think I've done exactly that by every single app in the phone --attach screenshots. I only have a Google email account open but in Firefox and in desktop format. As far as I know I've NEVER backed up my stuff to a Google account. I have had around 10 different phones in the last year. Could that play a role, despite me not backing up on them either? Every morning I login on my Google accounts and have to revoke some of them. I really need a drastic solution to end up with this.
Some more screenshots of what I've done to try.
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I think that you have nothing to worry. On closer scrutiny of your first screenshot which is repeated in post #4, I notice that you have no backup account selected. In that case, no data will be backed up or restored when you factory reset.