Hi all, I own xperia Neo V. Rooted recently. I found that a few apps like Hill climb racing, Zedge, Youtube Latitude etc.. are constantly loading as widgets or under other category into my RAM. I installed android assistant to see the list of processes in memory and found that these apps are loading constantly. RAM gets equipped quite soon and system performance gets degaraded. I also installed Next Launcher 3D. Would it be any cause for this? I also tried a few task killer apps especially from one of the XDA developers (Boost my Xperia) it is excellent, frees up memory by removing unncessary apps, but after a few minuts, RAM gets laoded by leaving only 35-40MB of free space.
Would anyone please suggest/guide me in managing memory efficiently?
varunit said:
Hi all, I own xperia Neo V. Rooted recently. I found that a few apps like Hill climb racing, Zedge, Youtube Latitude etc.. are constantly loading as widgets or under other category into my RAM. I installed android assistant to see the list of processes in memory and found that these apps are loading constantly. RAM gets equipped quite soon and system performance gets degaraded. I also installed Next Launcher 3D. Would it be any cause for this? I also tried a few task killer apps especially from one of the XDA developers (Boost my Xperia) it is excellent, frees up memory by removing unncessary apps, but after a few minuts, RAM gets laoded by leaving only 35-40MB of free space.
Would anyone please suggest/guide me in managing memory efficiently?
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Killing task won't help, since Android must restart all killed (sticky) tasks. Using ICS or later, you can disable many of them at the same place you usually uninstall them -- or uninstall them (mutual exclusive options). Also, don't look at "free memory". Memory is not supposed to be "free". Free memory is wasted memory, and Linux always try to use all memory in the most appropriate way. If fewer apps, more space goes to buffers, caches etc, always resulting about the same amount of free memory in the end.
If you are rooted.. try the greenify app.. which will put the background apps in hibernate mod if they are idle for sometime.. this will save your ram and battery..
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amith007 said:
If you are rooted.. try the greenify app.. which will put the background apps in hibernate mod if they are idle for sometime.. this will save your ram and battery..
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Thanks, will give it a shot.
Yeah. I was gonna suggest greenify too.
Next launcher takes a lot of RAM, around 80 MB. Try some other light weight launchers.
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Just curious why the free RAM shown in the task manager doesn't line up with the free RAM shown in Manage Applications/Running? For example right now in Manage Apps it shows I have 598MB free however task manager shows 261MB free. Obviously a huge difference between the two.
Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> Running shows you actual free RAM plus the amount of RAM that can be recovered from closing cached/inactive apps.
Task Manager (and third-party system info/task manager apps) will generally only show only how much actual free RAM remains.
While it's true that inactive/cached apps are pre-loaded in RAM (similar to how Windows does with Superfetch), those apps aren't actually running and can be purged at any time when the system needs RAM for running processes and services. Therefore, the amount of RAM these cached apps are consuming should be considered free, and that's why you see it under Manage Applications.
Thanks for the quick reply! Yeah, I get how Android handles the memory I just didn't couldn't figure out why it was being displayed differently in those places. I appreciate the info.
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Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> Running shows you actual free RAM plus the amount of RAM that can be recovered from closing cached/inactive apps.
Task Manager (and third-party system info/task manager apps) will generally only show only how much actual free RAM remains.
While it's true that inactive/cached apps are pre-loaded in RAM (similar to how Windows does with Superfetch), those apps aren't actually running and can be purged at any time when the system needs RAM for running processes and services. Therefore, the amount of RAM these cached apps are consuming should be considered free, and that's why you see it under Manage Applications.
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Couldn't have said it better!
Glad to help.
I have a " samsung galaxy player 4 ". I was wounder how much memory ( RAM ) it has ?
I thought i had 512.... but its only showing like half that, why ?
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savvymatthew said:
I thought i had 512.... but its only showing like half that, why ?
Thanks
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The OS e.g. Android and Touchwiz use up about 100mb RAM for itself leaving only 300-400mb for the user. My HTC Desire S has 768mb but really i can only use 623mb hope this helps.
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The OS e.g. Android and Touchwiz use up about 100mb RAM for itself leaving only 300-400mb for the user. My HTC Desire S has 768mb but really i can only use 623mb hope this helps.
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Is there a way to install a mod to free up some of the RAM the OS uses? Or a lighter android that doesn't use quite as much?
ZaIINN said:
Is there a way to install a mod to free up some of the RAM the OS uses? Or a lighter android that doesn't use quite as much?
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I would recommend a 3rd party launcher like ADW Launcher on Android market very light weight, also a app like memory booster which frees RAM. Their are no such mods to change the file system usage as changing the amount of RAM the system needs could result in a unstable device. I have a Galaxy wifi 5.0 with 512mb RAM and the 200mb left is enough for me without lag etc. hope this helps
I recommend using Advanced Task Killer. It has a very easy interface, and frees up ram quickly.
What does it say for ram on the player.... I have seen 377... and 345.
I have 345 and Im pretty pissed about it.
I have 342mb of RAM available. But I heard that around 100+ mb are dedicated to the gpu on the galaxy s phone, and the galaxy player has the same hardware so should be the same. So I think it still has 512mb of ram, but just 342 is usable by Android.
Have a look at the output of dmesg (e.g. run the following in a terminal and copy the resultant file to your PC to view: dmesg > dmesg_output.txt) and it tells you how much memory you have and how much has been set aside. Note you will probably want to reboot before you do this as otherwise the interesting messages have scrolled out of the kernel message buffer.
I've been using an app called Fast Reboot Pro. It appears to simply close processes that are running in the background. It then shows you how much memory was was freed. I hit every so often and especially when things appear to lag. Seem to work pretty well.
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I've been using an app called Fast Reboot Pro. It appears to simply close processes that are running in the background. It then shows you how much memory was was freed. I hit every so often and especially when things appear to lag. Seem to work pretty well.
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Gingerbread/Samsung has it's own task manager which in turn has it's own widget which does this. No need to install an app for this
I to use fast reboot, find it much more effective than what the player comes with. I also use ram manager pro witch is a very good tool to set different ram profiles, I like "balance (more free memory)" the best. I first select my profile, then I run fast reboot, very effective! The more you run fast reboot, the more memory it frees up, witch is great for big games like asphalt 6. Also, I use zeam launcher, very lightweight, perhaps the lightest, but still a great improvement over touchwiz. Another thing, NO LIVE WALLPAPERS is an absolute necessary! These things eat WAY more ram than they say on taskmanager. THEY CAN EAT 50+ MB OF RAM!! Also, services like widgetlockscreen and such will eat your ram. If you want to play a heavy game, go to running services and kill as many as you can, you can also clear cached apps by hitting the menu button in running services. Hope these tips help you to make the most of our small supply of ram!
Hmm, after more testing, it would appear that wifi burns around 25mb of ram when on! So, if your really short on ram, just turn on airplane mode to kill all antennas. I just played modern combat 3 with 25mb free ram throughout the whole level I had 190mb free originally, that game sure eats the stuff :s The CPU rides at 1000mhz through the whole game, lol, could always use some more of that stuff! That's what oc is for
It always happens that crashes and errors in the system and slow performance are the problems occurred because of the full or nearly full memory. Issue of memory overload the Smartphones are not immune. It can be avoided, if you know how to maintain phone’s storage space. If your phone has large memory then it will run very smoothly.
For performance of the phone to improve you can delete the cache from time to time which in turn will lead to the better performance of the phone. It can be done by using an application Apps2SD which clears both your cache and histories which are not necessary after some time. By clearing cache it frees up the internal space which there by leads to improved performance in the phone.
1.Try turn OFF (a)Sync(b)Wifi(c)GPS by this a constant process will be stopped and which will also improve your battery life and there by making it more use able, bcoz apps like gmail, contacts, maps constantly updates.
2.Uninstall apps which u don't prefer using. Further checking apps which eat more ram is to look in setting/apps/running and try freezing them.
3.Install task manager which provide operation of auto killing of apps in between time interval.
My Config ROM: FXP149-CM10
Kernel : flykernel 0.7a
launcher : ilauncher 2.2.1
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what task manager are you using?
it may helpful for some beginner
but i dont think it helps a lot......
just try Ram manager.
if it useful u can buy full version with more flexible option.
It's work for me.
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sjondenon said:
what task manager are you using?
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Advanced Task Manager Pro 2.1.5
1. Enable auto kill
2. Enable Regular set frequency to 10min
3. Startup kill
make sure not enabling system wide apps in the list
Free RAM is nothing but wasted RAM. Oh please, android works totally different from your Windows PC.
You can get performance by removing/freezing Unwanted apps, bloatware etc.
Using a Task Manager/Killer may give you a slow performance while Gaming etc.
You should not use a taskmanager, it juse makes your phone slower.
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devstaff said:
You should not use a taskmanager, it juse makes your phone slower.
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devstaff said:
You should not use a taskmanager, it juse makes your phone slower.
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Ok taskmanager are memory hog when coupled with lot of background services eg: widget on screen, social syncing etc.
But if you have organized set of application install with active task managers, it helps solves unecessary lags.
I have 200mb RAM available most of the time ... Installed 40+ apps packages other the default.
Frequently play games like Asphalt 7, Dead Trigger, ShadowGun DeadZone, Real football, Real Racing, GT Racing, CS Portable.
Governer : Smartassv2 - 364- 1209 mhz when active use [ Powersave - 249 - 576 mhz when in my pocket]
I/O scheduler : deadline
ROM: FXP 149 , kernel Fly kernel 0.7a
fuser1337 said:
Free RAM is nothing but wasted RAM. Oh please, android works totally different from your Windows PC.
You can get performance by removing/freezing Unwanted apps, bloatware etc.
Using a Task Manager/Killer may give you a slow performance while Gaming etc.
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yes exactly, at the beginning i also tried to use taskmanager, but then i google Android RAM and found guides who say the same. and it seem logic for me. so just let it be. no need to use such apps
and custom roms can drain battery more fast,so dont wonder.
first you should check your mobile and wifi signals and stuff like that.
Use ram expander
Create 1020 mb memori swap
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doesn't that damage your sd card? and if you use it with a class 4 one, won't it slow down the phone?
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Ok taskmanager are memory hog when coupled with lot of background services eg: widget on screen, social syncing etc.
But if you have organized set of application install with active task managers, it helps solves unecessary lags.
I have 200mb RAM available most of the time ... Installed 40+ apps packages other the default.
Frequently play games like Asphalt 7, Dead Trigger, ShadowGun DeadZone, Real football, Real Racing, GT Racing, CS Portable.
Governer : Smartassv2 - 364- 1209 mhz when active use [ Powersave - 249 - 576 mhz when in my pocket]
I/O scheduler : deadline
ROM: FXP 149 , kernel Fly kernel 0.7a
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Thats not really true, taskmanagers doesn't make your phone faster, and free ram is not necessarily good, android manages the ram in another way than for an example Windows. Android kills or puts processes in a kind of freezed mode instead of leaving them running all the time, and when a app needs more ram, android will automatically kill apps so that you can play games and so on.
If you want more free ram, you should use Supercharger or Ram Manager Pro instead, because their alot better than using a taskmanager.
Read this article about it:
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Are you serious? I expected more. This is just a very basic guide you can find on any android forum.
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Switching off wifi and gps when not in use is just a godamn basic when you use a smartphone, i don't even see the point of opening a topic to say that. Are there still people keeping everything on all the time ?
Task managers are not required since 4.0 at least, if not 2.3 if i remember right. Free ram is useless on Android, i never got this obsession about having free Ram. Many 4.1 and 4.2 custom roms leave less free ram than the official 4.0 and are still way smoother and fast.
This topic is complete bul****, and i'm not even a developer knowing that.
This thread should be moved to /dev/null , because its nothing new in it, and there is alot better tutorials on how to optimize your Xperia Ray.
dont use task managers or killers. Because there is battery drain.
here is my tweaked rom. i have HUGE RAM in first reboot
no init.d scripts, i have not task manager or task killer.
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doesn't that damage your sd card? and if you use it with a class 4 one, won't it slow down the phone?
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Maybe yes
Recomended use with class 6 above..
I have used on my ray
With 16 gb class 10
And its ok i guess
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Startup manager is the best
Just install startup manager and unmark apps from starts automatically during startup... Really works
No need care about number of apps installed:fingers-crossed:
swap ram expander
Adding swap ram (no need for much, 300 to 500 mb is ok) makes such a difference. Since I've started using it, I can multitask and I don't get the big slowdowns I was used to. No blank screen when returing to the launcher or horrible wait times under Chrome. From my experience, Android phones with 512mb of ram generally struggle a lot because they always have to erase and reload ram pages so they don't exceed it. I have a class 10 32gb sd card btw.
how to get more free ram?? i have mmx a92. it lagging.. plz help (using Ram booster Pro)
Apps (activities) are usually cached, and "use" RAM. When RAM is needed, though, cached apps are "killed" to make space. This is all handled by the LMK (you can Google it if you want more information,) automatically. So in a certain aspect, free RAM is wasted RAM - if it is needed, it'll be made available. Struggling to get more free RAM is useless.
Take killers are also bad... Not only do they go against what I described above, but some apps use services. Those run in the background to provide various utility to the app, and can restart when killed. Task killers will kill them, but they'll only restart. So you'll only be gaining more CPU usage, more battery draining, and your task killer will actually be using RAM for itself.
In short: it'd probably be best if you got rid of your task killer, and learned to stop worrying (about the RAM) and love the bomb.
I use my Z Ultra mostly for playing games, especially Summoners War. And because I'm a guild leader, I use LINE to coordinate attacks with my guildmates so I switch between the game and LINE in certain occasions. The moment I updated to Lollipop, I noticed that I can't do that totally anymore. Once I press home to minimize my game, write a message in LINE then get back to the game, it's already gone and it restarts. It also happens in Kitkat but not only when I have too many background processes running (Email app, Facebook, Messenger, etc.).
I heard there's some memory leak issue with Android 5.0, is that the case here? Is there a way to prevent my game from closing?
If you are using the stock ROM it isn't about the memory leak because Sony has fixed it, it is about Sony services and apps are very resource hungry and they are eating the RAM. You can disable some apps or services (be careful!) which you don't use and thus save some memory. There is a guide in Themes & Apps section with apps that can be disabled, you can follow it to free some RAM.
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Sony services and apps are very resource hungry and they are eating the RAM.
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... which ones and how much? Because i see here >800 MB reported as free. I suspect neither the game and the messaging software do not use that much.
It's just lollipop being aggressive about killing processes whenever it feels like it>
Also, where did you hear that sony fixed the memory leak?
The memory leak issue is being discussed here.
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... which ones and how much? Because i see here >800 MB reported as free. I suspect neither the game and the messaging software do not use that much.
It's just lollipop being aggressive about killing processes whenever it feels like it>
Also, where did you hear that sony fixed the memory leak?
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I don't know exactly which apps and how much RAM they use because I don't use stock anymore but facebook and messenger combined can use about 300 MB, not mentioning the game. That 800 MB (although I don't believe it, hard to achieve even on AOSP) is "free" only by its name. More than half of it consists of cached apps which can be closed to free more memory, but it is still being used. You can see it when you go into settings > apps > running and switch the view. And about the memory leak, it is somewhere in Cross-dev section, a thread by Iagucool I think, he had compared some smali files and Sony apparently had fixed the leak in their firmware.
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neither facebook nor messenger are sony's apps.
cached memory is free memory in the sense that it is not used at the moment the system is asked about it, much like any other kind of free memory. That part of memory that is cached, as per android's own description, is available for new processes that ask for memory.
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neither facebook nor messenger are sony's apps.
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Thanks capitain obvious for pointing it out, I didn't say that they are.
cached memory is free memory in the sense that it is not used at the moment the system is asked about it, much like any other kind of free memory. That part of memory that is cached, as per android's own description, is available for new processes that ask for memory.
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Erm sorry but no, cached memory is used memory but it can be freed when system is running out of the really free one, so it has an ability to be freed whenever system wants to, thus labeled as "free".
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you said "sony services and apps" eat memory... i asked you which ones... and you said facebook and messenger. Neither of those are sony services or apps.
mind you, "sony services and apps" does not mean the same thing as "apps and sony services"