Hey guys.
I have neither Windows RT device nor Chromebook but I know that both of them are based on ARM architecture. What is more, I read from news that certain developer of Google installed Ubuntu on Chromebook to enlarge the latter's offline features.
So my question is: is it possible to make a Windows 8 RT ROM for Chromebook?
It's a big challenge but will be very useful, especially for those geeks who have Chromebook and wanna try Windows.
Don't laugh if it sounds silly.
And thank your for your joining the talk.
right now, no. Later down the road?...maybe
Apparently the BIOS is a huge problem.
I heard Ubuntu runs great on it though.
Not legally... Windows RT is only being released as an OEM-install version, which means someone would have to mess around with the files that already exist on a pre-installed RT device, drivers at the present time are unable to be compiled nor installed on Windows RT due to Microsoft's adoption of the Apple ecosystem, and the bootloader would also be an issue. But, I have seen someone get the HD2 running it, it was news like a month ago http://blog.laptopmag.com/hacker-gets-windows-rt-running-on-old-school-htc-hd2-phone , but it's horribly laggy and slow.
zacharyb5386 said:
right now, no. Later down the road?...maybe
Apparently the BIOS is a huge problem.
I heard Ubuntu runs great on it though.
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You're right. Just be patient and be confident in hackers lol
bal01 said:
Not legally... Windows RT is only being released as an OEM-install version, which means someone would have to mess around with the files that already exist on a pre-installed RT device, drivers at the present time are unable to be compiled nor installed on Windows RT due to Microsoft's adoption of the Apple ecosystem, and the bootloader would also be an issue. But, I have seen someone get the HD2 running it, it was news like a month ago http://blog.laptopmag.com/hacker-gets-windows-rt-running-on-old-school-htc-hd2-phone , but it's horribly laggy and slow.
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Thanks for the reply. Yea I agree with your point. But developers are always making the impossible things possible, aren't they?
Actually HD2 isn't the only android device that can be installed Windows RT/Windows Phone 8. I saw in other forums that ZTE Blade CDMA2000 version+ (N880E) also has similar hardware environments that enables Windows Phone rom installation. So a Windows ROM for Chromebooks is worth expecting!
Yah thats right ubuntu runs good on it.Try out once!!!
Thanks for asking this question I always wondered myself too just never brave like enough like you to ask.
I don't think it's possible to install windows on Chromebooks at all. They're not very open-sourced, sort of like Apple products. You can install Linux on it though, since Chrome OS is Linux based.
AndroiderShomette said:
I don't think it's possible to install windows on Chromebooks at all. They're not very open-sourced, sort of like Apple products. You can install Linux on it though, since Chrome OS is Linux based.
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Funny how Google makes an open source smartphone OS but their OS for laptops is closed source. [emoji17]
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AndroiderShomette said:
I don't think it's possible to install windows on Chromebooks at all. They're not very open-sourced, sort of like Apple products. You can install Linux on it though, since Chrome OS is Linux based.
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Why not install Linux and then switch from Linux to windows? Would it work?
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TheJerwin said:
Why not install Linux and then switch from Linux to windows? Would it work?
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How ? Vm? What r u talkin about
that would be wonderful . but no
Dual boot
Dual boot?
is it possible to buy any chromebook and than convert to ubuntu?
i want to have a full system.
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ok so i recently seen a video of the galaxy tab running windows 7 why cant we ? just wondering
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ok so i recently seen a video of the galaxy tab running windows 7 why cant we ? just wondering
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Why would you want to and this belongs in q&a, general or heck even in the Galaxy Tab forum...
LOLOLOLOL
Windows NT is what most of the Windows versions that we care about today are based from, including XP and 7. Windows NT supports the x86 and other processor architectures. Unless we can get an x86 emulator, we will NEVER EVER see Windows 7 running on an ARM processor. It is also closed-source, so we can't get the source code to compile to ARM. And the documentation for the kernel and other components of Windows are secretly kept somewhere at Redmond, so even if we get the source, it will be an infinite pain to get everything working for this new architecture (things like HAL, hardware abstraction layer, which is specifically for PC hardware and who Windows depends on heavily). I can't begin to explain everything that will need to be magically fixed in order to get working. Windows 7, or any other Windows version, will never work on a platform that it was not intended to work on (unless, we do get a virtual machine and some hardware compatibility)
Windows CE will be much easier to port since it was intended for mobile ARM computers. If this does happen, we can get Windows Mobile working. But all of this crap is completely non-public, so keep dreaming.
*I probably didn't get everything in this post correct (like the part about HAL) but the conclusion is completely correct. Basically Windows 7 will never reach a device unless it's a PC.
You mean the actual OS or just the theme? There are Windows 7 themes already for Android. And yeah, why would you wanna bother putting Windows on an Android device?
o cool like the title said just a thought but why i would want it on our device is becuase it looked cool running on the tab so and i like windows so i would probably enjoy it
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LOLOLOLOL
Windows NT is what most of the Windows versions that we care about today are based from, including XP and 7. Windows NT supports the x86 and other processor architectures. Unless we can get an x86 emulator, we will NEVER EVER see Windows 7 running on an ARM processor. It is also closed-source, so we can't get the source code to compile to ARM. And the documentation for the kernel and other components of Windows are secretly kept somewhere at Redmond, so even if we get the source, it will be an infinite pain to get everything working for this new architecture (things like HAL, hardware abstraction layer, which is specifically for PC hardware and who Windows depends on heavily). I can't begin to explain everything that will need to be magically fixed in order to get working. Windows 7, or any other Windows version, will never work on a platform that it was not intended to work on (unless, we do get a virtual machine and some hardware compatibility)
Windows CE will be much easier to port since it was intended for mobile ARM computers. If this does happen, we can get Windows Mobile working. But all of this crap is completely non-public, so keep dreaming.
*I probably didn't get everything in this post correct (like the part about HAL) but the conclusion is completely correct. Basically Windows 7 will never reach a device unless it's a PC.
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thanks for all of this info i didnt understand lol becuase im not really familure with this type of stuff but from your post what is windows ce? i would really enjow anykind of windows on my device really i just said windows 7 becuase i saw the video thanks for the reply
Dude, seriously you should've just bought a Windows phone like an HD2 or something if you like windows that much.
I mean personally to me, the whole point of buying an android phone is to NOT have a Windows OS or even a Windows GUI..........just sayin.
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Dude, seriously you should've just bought a Windows phone like an HD2 or something if you like windows that much.
I mean personally to me, the whole point of buying an android phone is to NOT have a Windows OS or even a Windows GUI..........just sayin.
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Nope I love android but what I was saying and suggesting is having both systems running and can switch back and fourth not saying I like windows phones more than android just seeing if it or anything like it,is possible
The best phone in the world
Thegreat520 said:
Nope I love android but what I was saying and suggesting is having both systems running and can switch back and fourth not saying I like windows phones more than android just seeing if it or anything like it,is possible
The best phone in the world
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maybe it is just me, but dual-booting was still cool in 1999, not anymore.
Stick to one OS on the device, be it a PC or a phone.
Last time I cared for Windows was again 1999 when I used UPS software to send the packages, and wished it was upgraded from Windows 3.1 to at least Windows 95 - and then I went to continue my education, and it was the end of the windows era for me
If you want to use both windows and android, why not get an HD2 and have it dual boot?
I'm pretty sure if you saw Windows 7 on the tab then it was probably some kind of remote access software, and not running natively
This may sound like a weird question, but I am just curious to know if it is possible to install windows 7, or xp on Galaxy tab 10.1. As my limited knowledge about computers tells me, GT is essentially a computer with a cpu and ram and a kind of hard drive, so theoretically at least, it seems to me that it should be possible to install windows on the tablet.
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This may sound like a weird question, but I am just curious to know if it is possible to install windows 7, or xp on Galaxy tab 10.1. As my limited knowledge about computers tells me, GT is essentially a computer with a cpu and ram and a kind of hard drive, so theoretically at least, it seems to me that it should be possible to install windows on the tablet.
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Welcome to the forums. The answer is no. Windows won't run on the chip that's in the tablet (it's called ARM architecture; same reason windows won't run on a cellphone). I've heard rumors that windows 8 may be possible at some point.
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
5thElement said:
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
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and how did you manage this?
5thElement said:
I have Windows 7 on my Tab 10 so yes you can use Windows 7.
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You have the install disc sitting on your Tab?
Seriously, though. That sounds like horse**** from the same guy who claims to have played with Kal-el devices. Let's see a video.
How's this?
Splashtop HD running my home computer from work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0x48GuhNnI
Excuse the fumbling. It's hard to work the screen looking at the phone screen. And I should mention that we only have an 802.11g connection here at work.
Thank you Jay Evans for proving them wrong.
Well, holy hell! That means I have OS X Lion running on my Tab.
Thank you for the replies. Although I understand that some of us here might be in a rather humorous mood, but just to clarify: my question was not about remote desktops. I still think there has to be a way to have windows running on GT. Another question in this regard is about virtual machines. Is there any kind of VM available for honeycomb tablets?
While it might be possible you wouldn't enjoy the results. Especialy if you want to run actual programs on it. It would be as slow as molassas and suck the battery dry in no time.
Better to buy a Win 7 tablet and wait for something like Bluestacks to run Android or wait for the ARM version of Win 8.
It won't happen, Windows is based off x86 architecture and Android Tablets and phones are based off of ARM architecture, Windows 8 will have support for ARM though, so wait a year
While the answer to your question is still 'no', it is possible to run Windows 95 or 98 using emulators. There is a QEMU port for Android ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6661598 ) that does it, and I've also heard that you can install windows using AnDosBox.
I know this is not a dev thread but theres no where els to post this.
I'm probably not the first person to ask this for a tablet, but is there anyway on putting a version of windows on the gen 9s because the gen 9s have enough power to run windows EG: windows XP.
Is this even possible for a honeycomb tablet or not ?
The problem is not the "power" of the tablet but the CPU architecture they are running... Windows is designed to run on X86 Cpu's, our tablets are running an ARM Cpu... so you WILL be able to get windows on our tablets once windows releases windows 8, that has an ARM version... after that It's just a matter of being able to get the drivers for windows
Ok well I really don't like windows 8 from what I've seen from the preview videos on youtube.
I prefer the bare bones look of windows 7 or below. Hopefully there will be a way of getting that windows phone 7 look off of windows 8 otherwise i ant upgrading to windows 8 on my laptop or tablet.
That is just the Metro UI, you can disable it in the controle panel... Once you've done that, you basically have Windows 7 with some upgraded features, and some handy touch-implemented applications
But It's too early to know for sure if we can get it working on the G9 tablets, when It's released I'll give it a try
Well I hope you can disable it because I hate it.
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Well I hope you can disable it because I hate it.
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yep! just a setting in the control panel, easy to get rid of.
You are somehow wrong.
In the X86 Developer Edition you are able to disable Metro,
but as the ARM Version will not have the normal Desktop (as no x86 Program will run)
you have to live with Metro.
But as every Linux for ARM out there is as "Basic" as XP, you can use that now.
fzelle said:
You are somehow wrong.
In the X86 Developer Edition you are able to disable Metro,
but as the ARM Version will not have the normal Desktop (as no x86 Program will run)
you have to live with Metro.
But as every Linux for ARM out there is as "Basic" as XP, you can use that now.
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oh, you are right, ARM version only has metro, forgot about that...
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oh, you are right, ARM version only has metro, forgot about that...
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are you serious?? ugh.
I just hope that I'll be able to play AOE 2 on my tablet.
you won't be able to do.
aoe2 has no arm-builds. it only runs on x86-compatible systems.
you will not be able to run photoshop, counterstrike or any other well-known software. not if the maintainer of the software decides to create an arm-version.
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you won't be able to do.
aoe2 has no arm-builds. it only runs on x86-compatible systems.
you will not be able to run photoshop, counterstrike or any other well-known software. not if the maintainer of the software decides to create an arm-version.
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uhm.. But, i heard that WINE was going to support ARM... No chanche regarding an AOE2 through WINE?
vicesig said:
uhm.. But, i heard that WINE was going to support ARM... No chanche regarding an AOE2 through WINE?
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Possibly, but already the stability that Wine has on x86 machines is terrible, so I wouldn't hope too much... there are alternatives thou
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Possibly, but already the stability that Wine has on x86 machines is terrible, so I wouldn't hope too much... there are alternatives thou
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really, which ones? I can't find any.
vicesig said:
really, which ones? I can't find any.
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well, for android I've tried Age of Conquest by Gameloft and that isnt bad... bit like risiko, so it might be a bit more static than what you are looking for... otherwise you can try settlers... other than those I haven't looked that much... I'm sure we will have some options in ubuntu as well...
What do you Guys think? Is there a Way to get Windows 8 working on the Tablet?
Cheers
We have only just got root, im not sure if it is even possible as I dont see it on any of the android phones yet. However my question is, why would you want to?
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Wow, Windows 8 is not even realeased yet.
You might have better luck getting the current Windows platform.
I have not heard yet of any other platforms available on the Sony "S"
Pocket Could
If you have a spare computer to install Win 8, you could connect to that with PocketCloud and try that for a taste of Windows 8 on a tablet. The developer preview didn't play nice with PocketCloud or RDC, but this new version does. Otherwise I think you might have a bit of a wait as I don't think Tegra chipsets are on Microsoft's roadmap any time soon.
Short answer: No.
Long answer:
The first problem is that this Tablet only has root. To even get a proper custom ROM environment, we would need unlocked bootloader, custom kernel and custom recovery. Even with a custom kernel, theres no guarantees on its ability to play nice with other OSes. On the other hand, Windows 8 is currently only at Consumer Preview and the only images available for download are the x86 versions, which are completely incompatible with any mobile chips. Once the ARM images are released, we might see some development, but that would still require all the kernel/bootloader changes mentioned above.
Also, the PocketCloud/VNC option isn't a great one as PocketCloud emulates a mouse, thereby removing half of the appeal of Windows 8 on a tablet.
seriously.. why win bloze?
i would be more excited to see ubuntu on sony tab...
http://galaxytabhacks.com/galaxy-ta...tall-ubuntu-linux-on-galaxy-tab-10-1-tabuntu/
u go android because of freedom.. not the other way round..
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seriously.. why win bloze?
i would be more excited to see ubuntu on sony tab...
http://galaxytabhacks.com/galaxy-ta...tall-ubuntu-linux-on-galaxy-tab-10-1-tabuntu/
u go android because of freedom.. not the other way round..
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It would be a good idea to try for ubuntu since it looks like it only needs root and busybox!
From what I've read won't be able to run Windows 8rt on my Prime, since its not open sourced.
But is it correct that I can buy a Windows 8rt tablet, like the asus tf600 and install android on it?
The reason I ask is because I have to replace my Prime anyway and would like to get the best bang for my buck.
Thanks in advance
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I suppose there may be a method considering you can dual boot Windows and Linux. So I guess there IS hope but I wouldn't count on a method being developed quickly.
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From what I've read won't be able to run Windows 8rt on my Prime, since its not open sourced.
But is it correct that I can buy a Windows 8rt tablet, like the asus tf600 and install android on it?
The reason I ask is because I have to replace my Prime anyway and would like to get the best bang for my buck.
Thanks in advance
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I wouldnt count on it until you have seen it happen.
Don't get an itchy trigger finger based on a what if
I dont think it would be possible. Microsoft locked their tablets down pretty hard. I would be surprised if you could install open software on it, without using exploits and stuff. But i'm no expert
On the other hand, why would you want Windows RT anyway? If you need office look into softmaker office for android Its really good.
You will NEVER be able to use Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Android on the same System. They are not compatible because of the hardware!
You could only use Android & Windows RT --> ARM Processors
Or Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Linux --> x86 Processors
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You will NEVER be able to use Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Android on the same System. They are not compatible because of the hardware!
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I´m not a expert, but this is possible! I have on my wetab (x86) the android x86 version.
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You could only use Android & Windows RT --> ARM Processors
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this is more interesting and I ´m looking how to become android (like tf300 or tf700) on my tf 600.
Yeah me too
maybe if you got one with Windows 8 Pro (like the surface Pro) you could run Bluestacks on it. That will run Android apps, just not the whole operating system.
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I dont think it would be possible. Microsoft locked their tablets down pretty hard. I would be surprised if you could install open software on it, without using exploits and stuff. But i'm no expert
On the other hand, why would you want Windows RT anyway? If you need office look into softmaker office for android Its really good.
You will NEVER be able to use Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Android on the same System. They are not compatible because of the hardware!
You could only use Android & Windows RT --> ARM Processors
Or Windows 8 (x86/x64) and Linux --> x86 Processors
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There are Linux distros for ARM processors.
SecureBoot
Now that linux can get past SecureBoot, this seems vaguely possible. I'm no expert though.
sa- said:
Now that linux can get past SecureBoot, this seems vaguely possible. I'm no expert though.
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The main issue is still that W8 is closed source software as well as paid software. It would technically be illegal
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The main issue is still that W8 is closed source software as well as paid software. It would technically be illegal
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When has something being illegal stopped anyone? :highfive: