Long story short, about a year ago i got a Motorola Bravo (Android) phone for a few weeks but returned it because I couldn't really afford a data plan at the time. About a month ago I switched back to smartphones, this time for good, and now have a Samsung Galaxy SII.
The motorola phone had some AWESOME user-friendly features, such as resizing of widgets. Is this taken out because of Touchwiz or was that an older version of Android that's now obsolete? What all does Touchwiz take away functionality-wise? What does Gingerbread (2.3.6 to be specific) look like without Touchwiz?
I've yet to root my phone (the only reason I'd have right now is more battery life) but if I could reove Touchwiz and get some serious UI improvements, that'd definitely be a gamechanger for me
Motorola has Moto blur I think
HTC has sense
Samsung has TouchWiz
The clean Androind would be an AOSP based rom, like CM9/AOKP
I don't know if you understand me, I think I'm drunk or something right know can't remember
Oh
Galaxy Nexus is like what it looks witout the Touchwiz.
ScelestusAnimus said:
Long story short, about a year ago i got a Motorola Bravo (Android) phone for a few weeks but returned it because I couldn't really afford a data plan at the time. About a month ago I switched back to smartphones, this time for good, and now have a Samsung Galaxy SII.
The motorola phone had some AWESOME user-friendly features, such as resizing of widgets. Is this taken out because of Touchwiz or was that an older version of Android that's now obsolete? What all does Touchwiz take away functionality-wise? What does Gingerbread (2.3.6 to be specific) look like without Touchwiz?
I've yet to root my phone (the only reason I'd have right now is more battery life) but if I could reove Touchwiz and get some serious UI improvements, that'd definitely be a gamechanger for me
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Make sure to go the MIUI route if you're on GB or go the AOKP route if you're on ICS. Those are good starting points if you want to see some nice UI improvements. If you decide to go AOKP make sure to mess around in ROM control.
AOSP stock apps on ICS (AOKP/CM9) are much nicer than touchwizz/samsung ics apps.
UI Ranking
#1 AOSP (AOKP,CM9) and MIUI [all ICS based]
#2 MIUI GB , Sensation ROM GB (Samsung based rom), AOSP GB (CM7) (LunarUI theme)
#3 Stock Samsung ROM or Stock CM7 [both GB based]
Recommend Choice is AOKP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718
Just make sure you know what you're doing when you flash
You just need a different launcher. Try go launcher.
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Biporch said:
Motorola has Moto blur I think
HTC has sense
Samsung has TouchWiz
The clean Androind would be an AOSP based rom, like CM9/AOKP
I don't know if you understand me, I think I'm drunk or something right know can't remember
Oh
Galaxy Nexus is like what it looks witout the Touchwiz.
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Oh yeah! Now that you mention it, i remember reading about Motoblur.
Cryosx said:
Make sure to go the MIUI route if you're on GB or go the AOKP route if you're on ICS. Those are good starting points if you want to see some nice UI improvements. If you decide to go AOKP make sure to mess around in ROM control.
AOSP stock apps on ICS (AOKP/CM9) are much nicer than touchwizz/samsung ics apps.
UI Ranking
#1 AOSP (AOKP,CM9) and MIUI [all ICS based]
#2 MIUI GB , Sensation ROM GB (Samsung based rom), AOSP GB (CM7) (LunarUI theme)
#3 Stock Samsung ROM or Stock CM7 [both GB based]
Recommend Choice is AOKP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574718
Just make sure you know what you're doing when you flash
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Are these custom Roms or just the normal Android OS without the company's additions to it? I have gingerbread atm (I'd rather wait for ICS until the official release from AT&T)
hobbs said:
You just need a different launcher. Try go launcher.
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I tried Go launcher. I didn't like how it was basically an OS on top of the normal OS. They both were running at the same time and I had to rearrange my apps to make them the same as they were. I just want the Android OS without the stupid additions/subtractions from Samsung/Motorola/etc >.<
However I have to say, I do like how Go Launcher doesn't require rooting
ScelestusAnimus said:
I tried Go launcher. I didn't like how it was basically an OS on top of the normal OS. They both were running at the same time and I had to rearrange my apps to make them the same as they were. I just want the Android OS without the stupid additions/subtractions from Samsung/Motorola/etc >.<
However I have to say, I do like how Go Launcher doesn't require rooting
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You do realize, right, that Touchwiz is a launcher too? And even vanilla Android builds use a launcher? When you use Go Launcher, it's not running "on top of" what's already there; it's replacing Touchwiz.
I'm sorry, but you can't have vanilla Android OS without installing it in the form of a custom ROM. Samsung makes their own builds of Android, which is what you have. If you want something else, somebody else has to build it...meaning the developers on this forum.
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You do realize, right, that Touchwiz is a launcher too? And even vanilla Android builds use a launcher? When you use Go Launcher, it's not running "on top of" what's already there; it's replacing Touchwiz.
I'm sorry, but you can't have vanilla Android OS without installing it in the form of a custom ROM. Samsung makes their own builds of Android, which is what you have. If you want something else, somebody else has to build it...meaning the developers on this forum.
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Maybe it just felt like that because I could cancel it at any time and go back and forth between normal touchwiz and Go launcher. I know this is a versatility feature, but I'd rather have that disabled, as crazy as it may sound.
But that's good to know. I didn't know a launcher was REQUIRED, just thought it was what most people did. I'll look into other launchers.
Is there still one where you can resize the UI elements and stuff like that?
ScelestusAnimus said:
Maybe it just felt like that because I could cancel it at any time and go back and forth between normal touchwiz and Go launcher. I know this is a versatility feature, but I'd rather have that disabled, as crazy as it may sound.
But that's good to know. I didn't know a launcher was REQUIRED, just thought it was what most people did. I'll look into other launchers.
Is there still one where you can resize the UI elements and stuff like that?
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As mattdm said, all Android builds require a launcher. Otherwise you'd have no usable GUI. When you were switching back and forth between GO and TouchWiz were you using a home/launcher switcher, or were you just using the default ui to choose one each time you went to your home screen?
You can have several launchers installed and use a switcher to make one "stick" until you decide you want a different look/feel.
Some prefer GO or LauncherPro. I use ADW EX and TouchWiz. ADW and LauncherPro are very configurable. VERY. Both have their ardent fans. I've not used GO.
PS: You do NOT want the ability to change launchers disabled. ;-)
ScelestusAnimus said:
Maybe it just felt like that because I could cancel it at any time and go back and forth between normal touchwiz and Go launcher. I know this is a versatility feature, but I'd rather have that disabled, as crazy as it may sound.
But that's good to know. I didn't know a launcher was REQUIRED, just thought it was what most people did. I'll look into other launchers.
Is there still one where you can resize the UI elements and stuff like that?
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Uhh... touchwiz lets you resize certain widgets... (UI elements) pretty sure go launcher and adw ex do too...
Biporch said:
The clean Androind would be an AOSP based rom, like CM9/AOKP
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CM9 uses the Trebuchet launcher. as it has been hammered multiple times, all roms use some sort of launcher. I'm not sure what AOKP uses, but I'd wager its either Trebuchet, nova, or apex..
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CM9 uses the Trebuchet launcher. as it has been hammered multiple times, all roms use some sort of launcher. I'm not sure what AOKP uses, but I'd wager its either Trebuchet, nova, or apex..
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I believe it comes with both apex and nova. They are fairly similar but each have a few unique features.
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0p3nsrc said:
CM9 uses the Trebuchet launcher. as it has been hammered multiple times, all roms use some sort of launcher. I'm not sure what AOKP uses, but I'd wager its either Trebuchet, nova, or apex..
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Tasks came with trebuchet. I switched to nova and I'm fairly sure that apex came on it too.
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ScelestusAnimus said:
Long story short, about a year ago i got a Motorola Bravo (Android) phone for a few weeks but returned it because I couldn't really afford a data plan at the time. About a month ago I switched back to smartphones, this time for good, and now have a Samsung Galaxy SII.
The motorola phone had some AWESOME user-friendly features, such as resizing of widgets. Is this taken out because of Touchwiz or was that an older version of Android that's now obsolete? What all does Touchwiz take away functionality-wise? What does Gingerbread (2.3.6 to be specific) look like without Touchwiz?
I've yet to root my phone (the only reason I'd have right now is more battery life) but if I could reove Touchwiz and get some serious UI improvements, that'd definitely be a gamechanger for me
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First off, Welcome to Samsung!
A little background.
AOSP = Android Open Source Program. Meaning, a open source of code editable by anyone.
Touchwiz/Motoblur/Sense = Not AOSP, they were written as a launcher/GUI for each phone by their developer (Motorola/Samsung/HTC). On top of that, these GUI/Overlays have their fingers into everything on a phone, this is why updates take so long. Google creates a new version of Android and passes it to the phone manufacturer, they in turn need to take that new version and paste their GUI/Overlay on top of it, this takes time and money. Further, once the phone manufacturer finishes updating, they need to give the software to the vendor (VZW/AT&T etc) who add more bloat/custom crap to the software.
Custom ROM's, are and are not AOSP, Some are pure AOSP like AOKP or CM (Cyanogenmod), they are written by groups of people, all of whom work in concert to bring you the ROM. Then there are custom ROM's that are not in the realm of AOSP. For example, I use Phone Bricker, written by LilChris here on XDA. This ROM is not really Open Source as it's written by one person, the author may give out the source, I don't know.
So what would your phone look like w/o Touchwiz? CM9/AOKP is as close as you'll get. Those ROMs use the closest to stock version of Android.
To confuse matters even more, there are Launchers, Go Launcher/Apex etc. They operate as yet another GUI on top of a GUI, inside a ROM. So you could have a stock, unrooted Galaxy S2, with Touchwiz and Go Launcher, and customize it to make it look like you want it too. Or, you could root your phone, Update to CM9 (running Ice Cream Sandwich btw), and use the launcher that they have there, or change that to Go Launcher.
The options are endless, read read read. I am new to Samsung, I came from Motorola where things are done quite a bit differently. I can tell you this though, you are infinitely better off with a Samsung phone than a Motorola Phone. Not only does Motoblur blow chunks, but Motorola is a terrible company as far as software updates go. Toss in locked bootloaders... anyway, I hope the above answered your question.
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Hi Guys.. I'm new.. I have a HTC Sense rom RC4B with sense 2.1 and android 2.3 and i have a questen how to make from the Launcher (Rosie) the Carusell Effect??
The effect ist not active i love this effect
or where can Port for HTC Legend sense 3.0 apps for sense 2.1 is this makeable??
sorry for my english
I am not sure I'm getting the question right. But, you're looking for an effect on your Launcher?
I did a quick search and it seems that a few roms with the Rosie Launcher has removed the Carousel effect from the rom. Your best bet is probably to flash a new rom that actually has the effect, or download another launcher that has a similar effect.
The carousel effect absolutely destroyed Sense 3.0 and Sense 3.5. HTC finally got their heads straight on Sense 3.6 (aka Sense 4.0 lite with ICS), and either toned it down or removed it (I forget). It's awful.
This video in particular sticks out like a sore thumb for those long, forgotten days:
If you want anything remotely close without an impediment on performance (actually, it's once of your only choices), use LauncherPro (Plus may be needed, not sure), and apply a homescreen transition animation.
Another launcher may have this, and it may be free, but LauncherPro is my launcher of choice despite not having updated for 1.5 years. It's pretty damn fast and has everything I need; no more, no less.
Hello. I'm using Allview P6 Stony, and my menu is laggy because of the themes...
i can't install new themes because:
I don't know that launcher i have- his name in menu is simply Launcher. i dig up in phone and i found com.gionee.launcher in /data/data and a theme manager called in menu Theme , found smth like gn.com.android.theme
here are some screenshots of the apps
1. Launcher -> i.imgur.com/kj9mD.png
2. Theme -> i.imgur.com/H69k1.png
3. Inside Theme -> i.imgur.com/5pnQv.png
Sorry but i can't post links !
Can anyone help me ? How do i get rid or at least change those themes because it's making the menu pretty laggy.
Thanks.
UP?
Do you've Google Play Store? If yes, try Golauncher EX from the store. It's generally faster, smoother and has many good themes also.
i tried nova launcher wich is supposed to be better than go launcher (from reviews) and it was a lil bit laggy (from time to time it freezes)
ZecaR said:
i tried nova launcher wich is supposed to be better than go launcher (from reviews) and it was a lil bit laggy (from time to time it freezes)
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Well, you can also try Bazooka Launcher from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hdmF0YXJyb20uYmF6b29rYSJd
ZecaR said:
i tried nova launcher wich is supposed to be better than go launcher (from reviews) and it was a lil bit laggy (from time to time it freezes)
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There is no one better launcher for all phones - especially rebranded chinese phones (since the software is not much optimized by the chinese manufacturers). I would recommend you to try the top 4-5 launchers and settle on the one that's smooth and fast on your phone. I've seen Go Launcher EX work smooth on very low end devices, that's why suggested you. You should try light weight launchers - stock AOSP launcher from GB / launchers with less features / effects.
ivoidwarranty said:
There is no one better launcher for all phones - especially rebranded chinese phones (since the software is not much optimized by the chinese manufacturers). I would recommend you to try the top 4-5 launchers and settle on the one that's smooth and fast on your phone. I've seen Go Launcher EX work smooth on very low end devices, that's why suggested you. You should try light weight launchers - stock AOSP launcher from GB / launchers with less features / effects.
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I'm using Allview P6 (Romanian brand, not chinese) . I have dualcore 1ghz + 1gb RAM. it's not a low device. I tried go launcher and it runs smooth, no problem, so far so good.
I wished that you guys start working on these models it's insane that they are putting their own launcher and theme manager :| . with a cyanogen it would run perfect ...
ZecaR said:
I'm using Allview P6 (Romanian brand, not chinese) . I have dualcore 1ghz + 1gb RAM. it's not a low device. I tried go launcher and it runs smooth, no problem, so far so good.
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Allview P6 looks to be MT6575 based dual-SIM (dual-core Cortex A9). Sorry to disappoint you, but AFAIK all MTK chipset phones are rebranded chinese phones. MT6575 is a great chipset hardware-wise, but coming to software, MediaTek is not quite known for producing good performance software. That's why the issues you're facing.
ZecaR said:
I wished that you guys start working on these models it's insane that they are putting their own launcher and theme manager :| . with a cyanogen it would run perfect ...
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I too wish - as these chipsets have great hardware potential, if only CM is ported to MT chipsets, the phones would perform really great - MT6575 is Tegra 2 class chipset. But again I think the lack of any resources / documentations and proper open source code releases might be one of the reasons why developers don't try to do some development on these devices. I think MTK is worse than Samsung Exynos when it comes to developer support / source code releases
I'd like to ask GT-P7500 developers if there are any chance to have MagazinUX interface like in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782580 ?
grej said:
I'd like to ask GT-P7500 developers if there are any chance to have MagazinUX interface like in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782580 ?
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Not from me. Porting stock samsung apps to aosp roms is not easy. Samsung customizes android with mountains and mountains and even more mountains of additions. For better or for worse is up for debate but I'd argue for worse :cyclops: The name "Lagwiz" doesn't come from nowhere :cyclops:
The samsung apps then reference these additions. Someone would need to find those additions, extract them, and stuff them in the samsung app apk. Basically, the samsung apps apk are not standalone installers. Someone would need to put the effort to add the missing extras to these apks. Now I haven't seen the magazine ux, but if you want a more 4.0 ics launcher without the ugly dock at the bottom try nova launcher or adw.
Samsung has discontinued this tablet after only 1 update from honeycomb to ics. Talk about poor 1st party support. Bulls**t that "there's too little ram" or "the hardware's not capable". KitKat runs smoothly and can actually use live wallpapers. I've never been able to use live wallpaper without severe lag even back in honeycomb.
And lastly, this is a question thread not a development thread.