[Q] Installing rom after rom - running out of HD space - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just wondering if any Android users can advise of the best way to retain internal storage space after installing rom after rom.
I've tried to install quite a few roms over the past couple of weeks, and have noticed that the available HDD space on the phone's internal memory is becoming less and less each time. I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to the types of files the device (and current rom) need to run, so was wondering if there are any easy ways of telling which folders/files are needed and which ones aren't? Or, if there are particular folder(s) where old rom's data is kept that I could delete?
I'm using a Galaxy Note 2, which came with the Navigon app pre-installed by Samsung. The new custom rom I've installed doesn't have this app (and I don't want it) but I noticed there is still a folder on the phone called "Navigon", which I don't need. Deleting this folder freed up 0.25GB!... I'm wondering if there are any other easy (general) folders like this that I could delete?
My phone is down to less than a quarter of its space free and Jellybean doesn't seem to want to let us save apps to the SD... any advice would be appreciated! thanks in advance!

Do you still have all the files you used the flash each new ROM on there ? Those could potentially be taking up a LOT of space. Did you delete/format internal data between different ROMs ?

Hey, thanks for the quick reply!
I always do the wipe data, factory reset, wipe cache/dvlk cache thing every time. And I only keep one back up (on the phone). All my roms are on the external SD.
Is it strange that I still have the stock Navigon folder, etc. even though the rom I'm running now doesn't have this app?

Try "format usb storage" by connecting the mobile to pc.
This will erase all your internal storage files.

shashivydyula said:
Try "format usb storage" by connecting the mobile to pc.
This will erase all your internal storage files.
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Thanks but won't this erase the current rom and all its operational files too?

whokilledsanta said:
Thanks but won't this erase the current rom and all its operational files too?
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Do a full wipe before flash, That means formatting data, system and internal storage. You will have to reset everything up again as it will wipe all settings and app data.

whokilledsanta said:
Thanks but won't this erase the current rom and all its operational files too?
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No. After connecting the mobile to the pc open the settings in your mobile and access storage and select FORMAT USB STORAGE.

shashivydyula said:
No. After connecting the mobile to the pc open the settings in your mobile and access storage and select FORMAT USB STORAGE.
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That will just delete his SD card files what good will that do? That's right nothing
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Formating sd card is different from formating usb storage. Formating usb will erase internal memory.

shashivydyula said:
Formating sd card is different from formating usb storage. Formating usb will erase internal memory.
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Wouldn't it be easier just to go into storage and do that from phone? Or just do a factory reset its the sane thing
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bbrad said:
Wouldn't it be easier just to go into storage and do that from phone? Or just do a factory reset its the sane thing
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Factory reset is quite easier but it will make the device fresh. You will loose all the data, downloaded apps, apps on sd, and many more.

shashivydyula said:
Factory reset is quite easier but it will make the device fresh. You will loose all the data, downloaded apps, apps on sd, and many more.
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But even by formatting USB storage, he will end up loosing all his app data and other stuffs stored in the phone memory. In my opinion the user can take a backup of his user data and apps using titanium backup and then do a facotory reset. Restore the backup after this. If you have lost some space because of the residual files, then you can see the difference. If there is no change in the free space even after this, then its time for you to check the space that you app data using.

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[Q] Phone doesnt fully wipe

why is it when i do a factory reset or try to wipe my phone, install a fresh ICS, there is still files and folders left over from previouse app installations e.g Zedge folders are still on my phone with wallpapers i have downloaded, or whats app folders when i have not used that for aaagres, ive wiped the phone throught the ICS menu and via recovery?
thanks in advance
elemen7al said:
why is it when i do a factory reset or try to wipe my phone, install a fresh ICS, there is still files and folders left over from previouse app installations e.g Zedge folders are still on my phone with wallpapers i have downloaded, or whats app folders when i have not used that for aaagres, ive wiped the phone throught the ICS menu and via recovery?
thanks in advance
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The files are stored on internal storage. You don't need wipe this storage.
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Thanks for the reply, what if i want to lol? my phone is full of old files and random folders from old apps i dont use, how can i get rid of all this?
Thank you
elemen7al said:
Thanks for the reply, what if i want to lol? my phone is full of old files and random folders from old apps i dont use, how can i get rid of all this?
Thank you
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You can wipe sdcard storage external from rom or recovery. Usb storage is your internal sdcard.
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thanks for the help, got confused with sd card, internal storage and usb storage i didnt know which was the inserted card, that i dont want to wipe, suppose i could of just removed it
elemen7al said:
thanks for the help, got confused with sd card, internal storage and usb storage i didnt know which was the inserted card, that i dont want to wipe, suppose i could of just removed it
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Just go to settings/storage and check. Usb storage is your internal memory, I think.
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elemen7al said:
thanks for the help, got confused with sd card, internal storage and usb storage i didnt know which was the inserted card, that i dont want to wipe, suppose i could of just removed it
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I just checked.. Usb storage is your internal sdcard!
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formatting internal storage

my internal storage is down to 1gb and i was thinking of cleaning my internal usb storage and starting out fresh. Which folders should i backup on my pc and copy back after formatting internal usb storage? Are there any folders located on internal usb storage that would affect my phone from running properly aside from app datas? Is the efs folder stored in the internal usb storage? Thanks for any comments.
dbanzon said:
my internal storage is down to 1gb and i was thinking of cleaning my internal usb storage and starting out fresh. Which folders should i backup on my pc and copy back after formatting internal usb storage? Are there any folders located on internal usb storage that would affect my phone from running properly aside from app datas? Is the efs folder stored in the internal usb storage? Thanks for any comments.
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If you format it using the phone, it won't erase the efs folder, but I suggest that, if you haven't, you back it up before you do literally anything else, because you never know when something could happen to damage it, but normally, formatting the internal storage itself won't. The internal storage is an SD storage partition built into the phone itself. The efs folder and other important OS stuff is separate from it under normal circumstances.
Use the EFS Pro backup tool you'll find here on the forum. It's fast and easy. I wouldn't try to do it manually unless you know what you are doing, because it probably won't work, and actually could screw up the efs. The tool is safe and it works great. I've used it to both backup and restore my efs folder in an emergency, and it has worked perfectly.
One advise, copy all your internal sd data to pc, and browse forbwhat you need and what you can delete
Main data are:
Your camera photos
Files you download
Data files for apps and games
The last one can be redownloaded at worst, the first can be lost if not saved
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So u mean backing up using terminal emulator doesnt work ha?? I never used the EFS backup PRO.... I backed up using that three methods ....
thanks for the replies. Ive managed to format my internal storage and now ive got 10gb free.
dbanzon said:
thanks for the replies. Ive managed to format my internal storage and now ive got 10gb free.
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could u please share how did u manage to format it?
appreciated
got alot of "garbage" in my internal memory due to alot of flashing roms.
thanks
kakiboyer said:
could u please share how did u manage to format it?
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got alot of "garbage" in my internal memory due to alot of flashing roms.
thanks
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Yes please!
Anyone?
dbanzon said:
thanks for the replies. Ive managed to format my internal storage and now ive got 10gb free.
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How dude...?
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MomsDear said:
How dude...?
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If your on custom kernel like siyah/dorimanx etc u can format internal storage and if your on stock firmware theere's an option to format storage/factory reset right?.. like it's a secret
Manage to format my internal memory from setting>storage>select format usb storage
Unmount external storage 1st for precaution measures & backup all files in internal storage in your pc.
Flashed stock firmware to get fresh OS through odin.

[Q] Internal sd data missing?

Guys need a bit of help here.
I was on ICS wanam rom initially and I did 2 things:
1. Changed my csc
2. Did a wipe etc and updated to JB wanam rom
Now the internal sdcard folder becomes sdcard0, and more frustratingly, the data is gone, ie the pictures, music etc that I saved on internal sd card. App settings etc that are backed up via titanium are intact, but the pictures, music, downloaded files etc are missing.
The strange thing is, my wallpaper is still the same, even though I can't find the source file on my internal sd!
My gut feel is that, the data isn't actually deleted, but stored in some obscure location that I can't access.
Can someone help please? Thanks
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budisuharto said:
Guys need a bit of help here.
I was on ICS wanam rom initially and I did 2 things:
1. Changed my csc
2. Did a wipe etc and updated to JB wanam rom
Now the internal sdcard folder becomes sdcard0, and more frustratingly, the data is gone, ie the pictures, music etc that I saved on internal sd card. App settings etc that are backed up via titanium are intact, but the pictures, music, downloaded files etc are missing.
The strange thing is, my wallpaper is still the same, even though I can't find the source file on my internal sd!
My gut feel is that, the data isn't actually deleted, but stored in some obscure location that I can't access.
Can someone help please? Thanks
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If you were using ICS before and than you flashed it to JB than it will WIPE EVERYTHING in the phone except External Sd Card. you can try to recover them by using some of software in the market available to recover deleted files.
Chaitanyapatel8880 said:
If you were using ICS before and than you flashed it to JB than it will WIPE EVERYTHING in the phone except External Sd Card. you can try to recover them by using some of software in the market available to recover deleted files.
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I didn't know that at all Why was it not mentioned anywhere?!?! When I went from Froyo to GB, I don't recall everything being wiped.
If I load up an ICS nandroid backup, would it recover those?
budisuharto said:
I didn't know that at all Why was it not mentioned anywhere?!?! When I went from Froyo to GB, I don't recall everything being wiped.
If I load up an ICS nandroid backup, would it recover those?
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Sadly it happened to me also but I was able to recover a few files with a recovery software through my Laptop. I think you should try something like that... may be you can recover something. and something is always batter than nothing...
budisuharto said:
I didn't know that at all Why was it not mentioned anywhere?!?! When I went from Froyo to GB, I don't recall everything being wiped.
If I load up an ICS nandroid backup, would it recover those?
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Every single place that I've seen mentions of wipes or CSC changes warns of data deletion. I don't think you're looking hard enough.
BOZG said:
Every single place that I've seen mentions of wipes or CSC changes warns of data deletion. I don't think you're looking hard enough.
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Yea I read those, but I thought it meant wiping the configs,system file, etc, and not stuff on the internal SD card. Even when you go to Settings, Factory Reset, it says 'pictures, media files' etc are excluded from the wiping.
So even if I load up an old Nandroid, the files aren't recoverable?
confirmed that restoring old Nandroid backup doesn't recover the pictures/media/etc.
Change CSC wipe is deadliest type of wipe available!!!!
Yeah, unfortunately all is lost. There is a moral in this - always have an off phone backup!
Out of curiosity, I believe that once you try to change CSC there's no warning. Is that true?
BOZG said:
Yeah, unfortunately all is lost. There is a moral in this - always have an off phone backup!
Out of curiosity, I believe that once you try to change CSC there's no warning. Is that true?
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Yup. I always back up with Nandroid and Titanium and SMS backup and restore. But when the internal SD data is wiped, it's useless because some of the backups are stored in the internal SD which got wiped!
And yes, no warning prior to or after the CSC change. So be very careful!
I lost my internal sd data once due to that csc thing as well. Fortunately I made a full backup a week earlier. Yet it's still very very frustrating.

[Q] Is factory data reset safe on ics 4.0.4?

Hello guys just got myself a pre-owned i9100 s2 running on ics 4.0.4, i wanted to know how much internal storage is the phone meant to have? I connected to my laptop and in explorer it tells me i have 6.87gb free of 11.4gb. I am a little worried as i was expecting it to have more internal storage than that (10gb +), i currently don't have any thing important on the phone.
I was wondering is it safe to factory data reset the phone via Settings>Backup and rest>factory data reset? and also do i need to tick the "format usb storage" option?
I am hoping to get as much storage space as i can. Thanks
kuljit55 said:
Hello guys just got myself a pre-owned i9100 s2 running on ics 4.0.4, i wanted to know how much internal storage is the phone meant to have? I connected to my laptop and in explorer it tells me i have 6.87gb free of 11.4gb. I am a little worried as i was expecting it to have more internal storage than that (10gb +), i currently don't have any thing important on the phone.
I was wondering is it safe to factory data reset the phone via Settings>Backup and rest>factory data reset? and also do i need to tick the "format usb storage" option?
I am hoping to get as much storage space as i can. Thanks
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Goto Settings - Storage - Erase SD, done.
You don't need to factory reset, just do that.
Jokesy said:
Goto Settings - Storage - Erase SD, done.
You don't need to factory reset, just do that.
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Thats for SD card, i am asking for internal storage??
do d same
kuljit55 said:
Thats for SD card, i am asking for internal storage??
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Do the same under internal storage.
Format internal storage will get yr full storage space back
If not last option is flash a safe kernel n then do factory reset.
shabhrish said:
Do the same under internal storage.
Format internal storage will get yr full storage space back
If not last option is flash a safe kernel n then do factory reset.
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Thanks that did the trick. cheers

[Q] Moving apps

I have Googled and searched this forum for an answer but can't seam to track a solution down....
I am unable/i just don't know how to transfer my apps to the internal storage (SD Card)
I got Titanium Backup thinking it would be helpful but alas it has been no use to me.
Any help would be appreciated
Kujo
Kujo-ou812a said:
I have Googled and searched this forum for an answer but can't seam to track a solution down....
I am unable/i just don't know how to transfer my apps to the internal storage (SD Card)
I got Titanium Backup thinking it would be helpful but alas it has been no use to me.
Any help would be appreciated
Kujo
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What do you mean by transfer apps? Install, save or backup?
Optimus said:
What do you mean by transfer apps? Install, save or backup?
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Store/install the Games/apps files on the larger part of the memory (IE. SD Card) and have them run from that location.
I know the system apps can't be moved but almost any game or app can be.
I was once able to move them freely but I screwed up my phone and ended up whipping it and starting from scratch. :crying:
Kujo-ou812a said:
Store/install the Games/apps files on the larger part of the memory (IE. SD Card) and have them run from that location.
I know the system apps can't be moved but almost any game or app can be.
I was once able to move them freely but I screwed up my phone and ended up whipping it and starting from scratch. :crying:
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I'm speechless
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Kujo-ou812a said:
Store/install the Games/apps files on the larger part of the memory (IE. SD Card) and have them run from that location.
I know the system apps can't be moved but almost any game or app can be.
I was once able to move them freely but I screwed up my phone and ended up whipping it and starting from scratch. :crying:
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Dude... The whole purpose of people moving apps from internal phone storage to an SD Card is to free up space on the internal storage... by moving them to an EXTERNAL SD card (ie removable)
Since these phones don't have an external SD, all you're doing is moving your apps from internal storage to (drum roll please...) Internal Storage!!!
So basically... you're moving an app from the "Program Folders" area to... well... anywhere BUT that folder, but keeping it on the same hard drive. Make sense?
ridethisbike said:
Dude... The whole purpose of people moving apps from internal phone storage to an SD Card is to free up space on the internal storage... by moving them to an EXTERNAL SD card (ie removable)
Since these phones don't have an external SD, all you're doing is moving your apps from internal storage to (drum roll please...) Internal Storage!!!
So basically... you're moving an app from the "Program Folders" area to... well... anywhere BUT that folder, but keeping it on the same hard drive. Make sense?
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AndroHero said:
I'm speechless
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Apparently I am not getting my point across this is the HTC One X+ section right...
There are two sections on the solid state "hard drive" one is referred to as the SD Card which is allocated 50+ gigs the other section is system storage which is only allocated 2+/- Gigs.
Now I want games/apps to install to the SD card section not the system section which it dose by default.
I know this can be done as I mentioned previously I had it configured to do this but I can't remember how nor can I find anything (apps/tutorials) that will get me back to said configuration.
I hope this is a bit clearer.
Kujo-ou812a said:
Apparently I am not getting my point across this is the HTC One X+ section right...
There are two sections on the solid state "hard drive" one is referred to as the SD Card which is allocated 50+ gigs the other section is system storage which is only allocated 2+/- Gigs.
Now I want games/apps to install to the SD card section not the system section which it dose by default.
I know this can be done as I mentioned previously I had it configured to do this but I can't remember how nor can I find anything (apps/tutorials) that will get me back to said configuration.
I hope this is a bit clearer.
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No mate it doesn't. Unless your rooted you don't even have write access to /system/.
All apps and data will go on the /data/ partition. The "mock" SD card is located in /data/media/ or /data/media/0 which is just a folder on the main /data/ partition.
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AndroHero said:
No mate it doesn't. Unless your rooted you don't even have write access to /system/.
All apps and data will go on the /data/ partition. The "mock" SD card is located in /data/media/ or /data/media/0 which is just a folder on the main /data/ partition.
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I am rooted running ViperXL+
I can't update any of my apps/games because it says I am out of space but there is 50+ gigs free
Kujo-ou812a said:
I am rooted running ViperXL+
I can't update any of my apps/games because it says I am out of space but there is 50+ gigs free
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Sounds like you've done something to your internal storage. Try wiping /cache/
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AndroHero said:
Sounds like you've done something to your internal storage. Try wiping /cache/
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I rebooted to recovery and wiped the cache but it had no effect I'll have to try some more later I have to get to bed
Thanks
Kujo-ou812a said:
I rebooted to recovery and wiped the cache but it had no effect I'll have to try some more later I have to get to bed
Thanks
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Try going to /data/apps/ and checking if you will find white files that end with .odex
Apps that have that will most probably be the ones affected by that error. The .odex file is created if you have "lucky patcher" installed . If you do not have this app or haven't found any odex files then ignore what I just said.
ANY apps literally ANY apps? Going to Settings > Storage , are you sure its not filled?
Kujo-ou812a said:
I rebooted to recovery and wiped the cache but it had no effect I'll have to try some more later I have to get to bed
Thanks
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Try to wipe all including the data and do factory reset.You are using TWRP right? then goto advance sideload and then adb sideload the rom which u want ... from command prompt.. what you are saying is really not possible....may be you did mess up ur partition since we dont have any physical SD card slot there is just plain 64GB of which 51~55 is usable....Goodluck
Ghand0ur said:
Try going to /data/apps/ and checking if you will find white files that end with .odex
Apps that have that will most probably be the ones affected by that error. The .odex file is created if you have "lucky patcher" installed . If you do not have this app or haven't found any odex files then ignore what I just said.
ANY apps literally ANY apps? Going to Settings > Storage , are you sure its not filled?
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I removed the two odex files I found but yet again it made no difference.
I have over 50gigs of free space.
When I screwd up my phone I did a factory wipe and even relocked then unlocked the boot loader literally started from scratch so there should be no issues.
Kujo-ou812a said:
I removed the two odex files I found but yet again it made no difference.
I have over 50gigs of free space.
When I screwd up my phone I did a factory wipe and even relocked then unlocked the boot loader literally started from scratch so there should be no issues.
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If you asked me its a faulty rom that have no management over app installation. If its a stock rom then yeah factory reset is required.. But its a strange issue nontheless. So its fixed now when doing factory wipe?
Ghand0ur said:
If you asked me its a faulty rom that have no management over app installation. If its a stock rom then yeah factory reset is required.. But its a strange issue nontheless. So its fixed now when doing factory wipe?
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I have not done a factory wipe and that is my last resort I had this issue before but I managed to find a fix for it.
Kujo-ou812a said:
I have not done a factory wipe and that is my last resort I had this issue before but I managed to find a fix for it.
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That is a strange issue really... did u also wipe the date? using TWRP? When u earlier had this issue how did u manage to resolve it?
Optimus said:
That is a strange issue really... did u also wipe the date? using TWRP? When u earlier had this issue how did u manage to resolve it?
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when I did the wipe I cleared everything and went back to the Tellus stock RUU (lost all my pictures in the processes dam dropbox) and started over from there.
the first time I changed to the ViperXL+ OS I had the same issue unfortunately I can't remember how I managed to fix it I thought I used Rom Toolbox to set where apps/games installed by default but it says I have to be updated to 2.2+ and I'm only on 2.0.0
So I'm feeling like quit the Dumb A$$ I figured it out after my last post all I had to do in Rom Toolbox is change it from SD card as primary to internal storage as primary and now I can update/Install more apps
Thanks for the help

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