New and happy Note 2 user. I've always unlocked and rooted all my devices, but I need to know how rooting the Verizon version with Casual is coming.
With the Gnex I could root, unlock and unroot and lock the bootloader at any time and it was awesome. But with my transformer infinity once unlocked you can never relock the bootloader.
I am decently pleased with the stock performance and I've been able to theme to an acceptable degree on stock. I have become fond of a few bloatware apps for the s pen and dont wish to give them up. There is one app I need that I must root to use however. Problem is that once I unlock and root I know there will be some DRM issues with hulu, netflix, gplay and such that I use almost daily while traveling (90% of my job) that I would prefer not to have to hack around like I have in the past.
Also expect to need an insurance claim eventually.
So, basically I want to know if I can use casual and get try it out and return to 100% stock with locked bootloader?
Thanks in advance.
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JAWyered said:
New and happy Note 2 user. I've always unlocked and rooted all my devices, but I need to know how rooting the Verizon version with Casual is coming.
With the Gnex I could root, unlock and unroot and lock the bootloader at any time and it was awesome. But with my transformer infinity once unlocked you can never relock the bootloader.
I am decently pleased with the stock performance and I've been able to theme to an acceptable degree on stock. I have become fond of a few bloatware apps for the s pen and dont wish to give them up. There is one app I need that I must root to use however. Problem is that once I unlock and root I know there will be some DRM issues with hulu, netflix, gplay and such that I use almost daily while traveling (90% of my job) that I would prefer not to have to hack around like I have in the past.
Also expect to need an insurance claim eventually.
So, basically I want to know if I can use casual and get try it out and return to 100% stock with locked bootloader?
Thanks in advance.
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You sure can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
More specifically, see section 1b.
As far as I know, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, you once you are unlocked, you can load the original stock image w/ locked bootloader through Odin.
I wouldn't worry too much about it though. I've never seen any evidence that Verizon actually checks the phone when you return it. I had to return a Rezound that was S-OFF once because the USB port went bad and I never heard a peep about it from them. I've heard of others returning with CM installed and never having any issue. I'm not saying they 100% never check, but I haven't actually seen any evidence of it.
Also, I can't speak to Hulu or GPlay (don't use them), but I watch Netflix on mine all the time and have never had any issues with it.
You can Odin stock locked. I had to do it once already.
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shrike1978 said:
As far as I know, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, you once you are unlocked, you can load the original stock image w/ locked bootloader through Odin.
I wouldn't worry too much about it though. I've never seen any evidence that Verizon actually checks the phone when you return it. I had to return a Rezound that was S-OFF once because the USB port went bad and I never heard a peep about it from them. I've heard of others returning with CM installed and never having any issue. I'm not saying they 100% never check, but I haven't actually seen any evidence of it.
Also, I can't speak to Hulu or GPlay (don't use them), but I watch Netflix on mine all the time and have never had any issues with it.
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I know I could most likely get by on the insurance front, but I prefer not to risk it. Verizon is out to get me and my unlimited data plan right now, and I have to be extra careful not to have any red flag at all. I've been fighting to keep it. Just found out yesterday they won't allow me to add hotspot capability to my plan without taking away my unlimited data. (I added hotspot about a year ago no problem, but removed it because I wasn't using it while traveling abroad for a few months work.)
Hulu and GPlay are the ones that really check for unlocked bootloaders, Netflix I've only heard of having issues recently.
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You sure can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
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I notice this part in the topic you refer to
Also, folks currently on the latest L4 OTA ONLY use the alternate restore file as it does not contain a bootloader!
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So does this mean if you are on VRALL4 with an unlocked bootloader, that you can't relock it by flashing. I thought in order to return to a factory locked bootloader you needed to use an image which inlcluded the factory bootloader.
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I notice this part in the topic you refer to
So does this mean if you are on VRALL4 with an unlocked bootloader, that you can't relock it by flashing. I thought in order to return to a factory locked bootloader you needed to use an image which inlcluded the factory bootloader.
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That means if your on LL4 with a locked bootloader still use the alternate restore or you want to keep yours unlocked. To relock it you're right use a full stock image
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JAWyered said:
Just found out yesterday they won't allow me to add hotspot capability to my plan without taking away my unlimited data. (I added hotspot about a year ago no problem, but removed it because I wasn't using it while traveling abroad for a few months work.)
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You know you can have a wifi hotspot without using Verizon's app, right?
This works for me and I'm still stock and not rooted...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027734
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Hey guys... been checking around.. have a few quick questions. Just to give you an idea.. I've rooted and flashed my own Captivate, now my brother is looking for a new phone so we may get him an atrix.
1. How common is it to hardbrick the atrix? I know that on the captivate a hardbrick is an extremely rare happening, and you can almost always go back to stock via odin.
2. Is CM7 officially available? if so are the nightly releases fairly stable?
3. I know that flashing voids the warranty, and I wouldn't try to redeem a phone I ruined by overclocking or anything like that.. However, I prefer to have a way to completely remove anything I did to the phone. Is this possible?
1. Not very. Unless you try to downgrade from 4.5.91
2. I'm using cm7 now. No nightlies but 0 issues! VERY stable!
3. If you unlock bootloader its unlocked. No going back.
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Like joe said a hard brick is not very common, unless you don't follow directions. Cm7 is currently in beta for the atrix, but it is very very stable. No web top or finger scanner try though. Once you unlock the phone, during startup wroth the red M in thee upper left it will say unlocked. So nope, no way to undo it all.
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I'm going to agree with the the first two points earlier posters made, but as for relocking the bootloader, I think it can be done if you sbf(not recommended) back to the stock 3.4
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Thanks guys, I know that on the Captivate if you go back to odin it returns it to stock.
I am hesitant to root something that can't be reverted.. not a good situation if something goes out.
I don't think he is too worried about the finger print scanner or webtop.
My friend wanted his Atrix rooted i took it home and did it under a hour, I had no experience with command prompts at the time
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There's an easy to follow guide if you only want root, not unlocked bootloader. Other than removing bloat its mildly pointless though
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I'm going to agree with the the first two points earlier posters made, but as for relocking the bootloader, I think it can be done if you sbf(not recommended) back to the stock 3.4
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I was under the impression that unlocking the bootloader cannot be undone, which is why the hardbrick occurs when flashing back to an earlier version after the GB OTA update.
I believe flashing a fruit cake should give you the stock Motorola bootlogo (no "Unlocked" at the top) image, but the bootloader will still be unlocked.
The biggest issue here is honestly this.
I don't want to get a phone with some sort of manufacturer defect, then not be able to claim the warranty because the phone was at some point in its life flashed. (Sometimes it takes a while for the defects to actually pop up..)
I don't believe in overclocking or anything like that.
If I softbrick a phone I can usually fix it on my own.
I just don't want say, the speaker to go out and it have nothing to do with what rom he is running..
And then for my brother to be out of a phone, just because the speaker went out.. despite it having nothing to do with the fact it was flashed..
As to the bootloader, yes you can flash earlier versions and the "unlocked" at the boot screen will disappear, however there will remain evidence that you had unlocked the bootloader before if they investigate it
That being said there's been quite a few people who have been able to get warrenty replacements and repairs sending back their phones after flashing back..I haven't heard of anyone who's phone has been investigated that deeply and rejected
That works.
I mean, I don't have any intention of overclocking or pushing the hardware out of spec or anything.
I figure as long as whatever goes wrong is reasonable and not related to doing something stupid with the device we will probably be ok.
You don't need to overclock that phone at all ... rooting it's simple as I posted before. There some bootloader blocking you from loading roms, can be taken off.
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While completely bricking the Atrix is hard to do, it's still possible if you don't carefully read all the instructions. I do miss the Captivate though, it's incredibly easy to flash and recover from any mistake. The CM7 beta build is very stable, I have been using it since the last update was release on the 13th of September and haven't experienced any big problems. If your brother is looking at the Atrix for the webtop or fingerprint scanning capabilities though, just know that the current CM7 build do not yet support them.
From what I've read so far, I haven't seen anyone trying to use their warranty have a problem with the unlocked bootloader. If you're going to buy it through AT&T, I'm pretty sure they're oblivious to it anyway. Last time I exchanged my phone at the repair center, they didn't even bother to see if it booted. They just took it and handed me another one on the spot.
I saw somewhere that perm root has been achieved, but it is not being released because it could be hard to fix if you screw up the system partition.
Heres the thing though...
Don't we have the recovery files that can reflash the shipping OS version?
Also seeing as how we do not have S=Off that means we can't screw up the hboot or really flash anything that is "unautorized".
That means we could fix any issues by reflashing the stock software right?
Or is the perm root not being released because the method is too difficult.
If that is the case, I understand not wanting a bunch of casual flashers/rooters attempting this, but there are those of us that can actually follow instructions well. Heck I even rooted my old Nexus One without using the official unlock command. It involved switching SD cards at just the right moment while running special scripts for ADB and other craziness.
Saw this today,
http://www.androidauthority.com/how...android-2-3-4-gingerbread-in-one-click-36933/
Bottom of article states you can install custom ROM's
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at the bottom of the page it sources
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346729
which is temp root, who ever read that prbly didnt know the difference lol
ah, thank you.
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Marine6680 said:
I saw somewhere that perm root has been achieved, but it is not being released because it could be hard to fix if you screw up the system partition.
Heres the thing though...
Don't we have the recovery files that can reflash the shipping OS version?
Also seeing as how we do not have S=Off that means we can't screw up the hboot or really flash anything that is "unautorized".
That means we could fix any issues by reflashing the stock software right?
Or is the perm root not being released because the method is too difficult.
If that is the case, I understand not wanting a bunch of casual flashers/rooters attempting this, but there are those of us that can actually follow instructions well. Heck I even rooted my old Nexus One without using the official unlock command. It involved switching SD cards at just the right moment while running special scripts for ADB and other craziness.
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I think the other part of this issue is that he (Evil DevNull -- oops I said a bad word around here) is using an exploit in the sim card system. He said he burned up two cards doing this. Probably not a very safe method at this point along with the other potential problems.
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I think the other part of this issue is that he (Evil DevNull -- oops I said a bad word around here) is using an exploit in the sim card system. He said he burned up two cards doing this. Probably not a very safe method at this point along with the other potential problems.
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Their twitter conversations have a youtube video showing root, have not watched it yet.
The title says Resound gets permanent root.
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The dude that did the youtube video is kolahib001. Says he has perm root on one of the other sites in the rezound forum. I have not seen any proof of s-off on youtube or another site.
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If they can release a perm root solution that is safe with S-On, I'll take it. That's all I want right now, and I'm sure a lot of people would be very happy with it for now as well.
Good luck.
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jbh00jh said:
The dude that did the youtube video is kolahib001. Says he has perm root on one of the other sites in the rezound forum. I have not seen any proof of s-off on youtube or another site.
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It is assumed he has a Factory rooted device, or possibly that a glitch in the "Root Checker" program still shows it was rooted after a reboot when it really wasn't. Also, it seems rather shady that he's already asking for money:
Would it be greedy of me to ask for a $5 donation from 500 people?
I really want this set of rims for Christmas.
Am I asking for too much?
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He started a new thread on the other Dev forums (the 1st one was locked) and we've asked him to Open Titanium before and after the reboot, as well as show us the Bootloader screen to see if it's a factory S-Off/Rooted phone or not. Also, we've asked him for his method. Just seems very shady to me.
Speaking of money...anyone willing to organize and spearhead donations to the developer or group that achieves s-off?
I know this was done on other phones where people pledged $x amount of money.
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It is assumed he has a Factory rooted device, or possibly that a glitch in the "Root Checker" program still shows it was rooted after a reboot when it really wasn't. Also, it seems rather shady that he's already asking for money:
He started a new thread on the other Dev forums (the 1st one was locked) and we've asked him to Open Titanium before and after the reboot, as well as show us the Bootloader screen to see if it's a factory S-Off/Rooted phone or not. Also, we've asked him for his method. Just seems very shady to me.
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Just another dude looking for attention,or con man.
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Just another dude looking for attention,or con man.
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Pretty much. I wouldn't be asking anyone for a dime period let alone prior to providing a full disclosure of the methods used to obtain root status.
Just like everyone else....I'll believe it when I see it.
Blah... perm root S=On is good enough for me right now if it can happen.
I'll pitch in a few bucks for that... I'll throw a few more for S=Off.
First time since the G1 that I had a device before root was achieved. I wanted to take advantage of the penny sale at Verizon is why I picked it up now. I would have gotten a galaxy s 2 had Verizon offered one. Oh well, every HTC so far has been broken eventually. I hope we don't have to wait too long though.
There was already a donation thread started somewhere I believe. But Evil was the only verbal dev working on root/s-off and said he didn't want money.
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Blah... perm root S=On is good enough for me right now if it can happen..
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This is dangerous. If something happens to /system you're screwed because without recovery it can't be..... well recovered.
There is already a temp root method that you can use to kill the bloat. Outside of that root doesn't really provide you with any other abilities except maybe to steal wifi tethering without subscribing.
Without s off you wont be able to overclock, flash custom Roms or alternate radios....so why do people think they need to have perm root without s-off?
There are plenty other things you can do with Root without S-Off.
THe EVO 3D with hboot 1.50 had the HTC Methosd which left u with an unlocked bootloader and S-On and Flashing kernels and such had to be done thru Fastboot Commands, Which was if the ROM had a Custom Kernel as a Default. Now JoeyKrim created the Flash Image GUI which was a hella of a creation for the people who were stuck in this position. Check out his app if u havent yet. If for some strange reason this was tyhe only resort for us, it wouldnt be bad at all
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THe EVO 3D with hboot 1.50 had the HTC Methosd which left u with an unlocked bootloader and S-On and Flashing kernels and such had to be done thru Fastboot Commands, Which was if the ROM had a Custom Kernel as a Default. Now JoeyKrim created the Flash Image GUI which was a hella of a creation for the people who were stuck in this position. Check out his app if u havent yet. If for some strange reason this was tyhe only resort for us, it wouldnt be bad at all
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I agree... it wouldn't bother me. If only HTCDev.com worked.
con247 said:
I agree... it wouldn't bother me. If only HTCDev.com worked.
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Yeah no kidding. I doubt Verizon would let it push thru too. Ahh well. We'll just have to wait for it the old fashion way
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I'm not sure if all of these have been addressed or have a direct answer, but I just wanted to compile everything into
a concise post that I can refer to.
I SHOULD be getting my DNA in the mail today and it SHOULD be fresh out of the box and I am basing the questions off
of that.
Reason for rooting is mainly for the wifi tether app, since I have unlimited data and rather use that then pay for actual service.
1.) Since it should be fresh out of the box are the chances of it being unupdated likely? If so this means I can root it, correct?
2.) I'm pretty new in the rooting field, having only recently rooted my thunderbolt. How comparable will the process be to that?
I had to backdate the software or firmware to be able to do so and am hoping since this is new it wont require that.
3.) I haven't messed with roms too much and was looking at the ViperDNA rom, what would the perks of doing this be? Cons?
I may have future questions later, but this is all I can think of atm.
Thanks ahead of time!
nived09 said:
I'm not sure if all of these have been addressed or have a direct answer, but I just wanted to compile everything into
a concise post that I can refer to.
I SHOULD be getting my DNA in the mail today and it SHOULD be fresh out of the box and I am basing the questions off
of that.
Reason for rooting is mainly for the wifi tether app, since I have unlimited data and rather use that then pay for actual service.
1.) Since it should be fresh out of the box are the chances of it being unupdated likely? If so this means I can root it, correct?
2.) I'm pretty new in the rooting field, having only recently rooted my thunderbolt. How comparable will the process be to that?
I had to backdate the software or firmware to be able to do so and am hoping since this is new it wont require that.
3.) I haven't messed with roms too much and was looking at the ViperDNA rom, what would the perks of doing this be? Cons?
I may have future questions later, but this is all I can think of atm.
Thanks ahead of time!
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I can almost guarantee you that the OTA will be installed on it and you will not be able to do anything with it until an exploit is found.
The root and S-off process is very easy if you are on the old firmware.
Crap, really? It's the same, power on + vol down process correct?
Even booting up the phone, this is talking if the OEM isn't updated, won't auto start the update, will it?
nived09 said:
Crap, really? It's the same, power on + vol down process correct?
Even booting up the phone, this is talking if the OEM isn't updated, won't auto start the update, will it?
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Nope. Well ya but you can decline it.
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kaliblazin707 said:
Nope. Well ya but you can decline it.
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Well I'm hoping that it will be this way. Should definitely be getting it today and will check it out.
If I can't even root it, I don't know if I will even be activating it.
nived09 said:
Well I'm hoping that it will be this way. Should definitely be getting it today and will check it out.
If I can't even root it, I don't know if I will even be activating it.
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Boot it up without the sim in it. Let us know, as of last week I would have told you that it's probably not updated. But its been a few days since I've known anyone that got one new in the box.
If it's not updated and you would like me to help you pull and supercid and unlock just send me a pm. If you get offered the update you will want to defer it like 5 days I think is the most it allows.
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Boot it up without the sim in it. Let us know, as of last week I would have told you that it's probably not updated. But its been a few days since I've known anyone that got one new in the box.
If it's not updated and you would like me to help you pull and supercid and unlock just send me a pm. If you get offered the update you will want to defer it like 5 days I think is the most it allows.
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Got a few -new in box cause I convinced a few retarded reps referbs were the issue- from Verizon n one from amazon. All 2.04
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Yea, I just got it an hour or so ago and booted right into the loader and asked in the IRC and I guess the OTA
was already accepted, so I'm sol for a bit.
Not even going to bother activating it, since I mainly use root for tethering.
I picked up the DNA in San Diego from BB for an upgrade on Verizon. It came with Software 1.15.605.4 710RD. I've s-off'd, root'd & TWRP'd with ease. Now I just need CM10.1 and I'll be happy.
I might fly to France and b-slap the CEO of the company who put the DCMA in.
Ok i hate being "that guy" who has to ask this(especially since i'm an rc), but i have been sifting through threads for the last few hours trying to determine can my p769 still be unlocked? The tutorials i read didn't specify that it was meant for jellybean as far as i saw. It came with ics, and as soon as i hooked it up to my wifi it decided to download the ota and install jellybean. So now i'm stuck trying to figure if the previous process still works because it seems to me like it just flashes and older version of the os, and i thought at the same time it was flashing a older bootloader from a p760 from the kdz file, but at this point i'm lost. Kinda sad since i'm from a community in xda with weird setups as it is. I read the bootloader is being worked on for 2nd init on this phone, i'm assuming thats basically what my kindle fire hd has that we call second bootloader. Anyways is my device's bootloader still unlockable?
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Ok i hate being "that guy" who has to ask this(especially since i'm an rc), but i have been sifting through threads for the last few hours trying to determine can my p769 still be unlocked? The tutorials i read didn't specify that it was meant for jellybean as far as i saw. It came with ics, and as soon as i hooked it up to my wifi it decided to download the ota and install jellybean. So now i'm stuck trying to figure if the previous process still works because it seems to me like it just flashes and older version of the os, and i thought at the same time it was flashing a older bootloader from a p760 from the kdz file, but at this point i'm lost. Kinda sad since i'm from a community in xda with weird setups as it is. I read the bootloader is being worked on for 2nd init on this phone, i'm assuming thats basically what my kindle fire hd has that we call second bootloader. Anyways is my device's bootloader still unlockable?
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Merp. As you read in the threads, not a lot of people have had success in unlocking the bootloader and I received an email from lg saying it is permanently locked (rolls eyes). We just need the right dev to figure a way to unlock the boot loader....
EDIT: New guide made http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2584997
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XAlexander_AlexanderX said:
Merp. As you read in the threads, not a lot of people have had success in unlocking the bootloader and I received an email from lg saying it is permanently locked (rolls eyes). We just need the right dev to figure a way to unlock the boot loader....
EDIT: New guide made http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2584997
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ah thanks, i'm going to have to get used to the style of native flashing that this phone uses, i'm used to being able to offload a img made with dd and reflash it from fastboot, the kdz file's are a bit new to me. Also thought i'd ask another question while i'm at it, that 30 minute wait they say i need to fix the radio on first to recieve a token, is that nessassary in the sense that i don't have a data plan so can i just use my wifi?
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ah thanks, i'm going to have to get used to the style of native flashing that this phone uses, i'm used to being able to offload a img made with dd and reflash it from fastboot, the kdz file's are a bit new to me. Also thought i'd ask another question while i'm at it, that 30 minute wait they say i need to fix the radio on first to recieve a token, is that nessassary in the sense that i don't have a data plan so can i just use my wifi?
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Well in this new guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2584997 it was said that you need both Wi-Fi and mobile data. @roamingrican said you need both.
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Well in this new guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2584997 it was said that you need both Wi-Fi and mobile data. @roamingrican said you need both.
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ah wonderful... my mom still pays my mobile bill and said until she gets a non-legacy phone, she's not getting us a data plan. Her current phone's my old sgh-x495 if i remember correctly. Pre-smartphone... Guess i will just settle with root for now until she gets a data plan. Who knows, by then there might be a bootloader unlock fix. Thanks for the help, hopefully i can contribute to this community in time like i have the kindle community, not that i was one of the major players or anything.
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ah wonderful... my mom still pays my mobile bill and said until she gets a non-legacy phone, she's not getting us a data plan. Her current phone's my old sgh-x495 if i remember correctly. Pre-smartphone... Guess i will just settle with root for now until she gets a data plan. Who knows, by then there might be a bootloader unlock fix. Thanks for the help, hopefully i can contribute to this community in time like i have the kindle community, not that i was one of the major players or anything.
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You only need mobile data for 30-40 minutes so maybe you can borrow a friends metro or t-mo sim for that time period.
I've read most of the posts on here, but all of them seem to be concerned with keeping root. Really I don't even know if this is a question that can be answered since I know the bootloader is still locked. I don't really care about root, the only thing that I would REALLY like to do is install CyanogenMod, which isn't an option at the moment. Given that, I'm thinking about taking the 4.4.2 update so I can have access to a lot of the new features, and get this annoying "Software update ready to install" message off of my screen.
The thing that worries me is that, if I do take this and the bootloader does get unlocked in the future, what are the chances this will affect my ability to use that unlock? For example, lets say an exploit is found that allows MK2 and previous bootloaders to be unlocked, but not NC5 (I believe that's the new version).
I think the question can be answered if anyone knows if the update changes or adds new security to the bootloader? If it does, then it may affect a future update. If it doesn't, then an unlock for one should work for the other right?
Like I said, I don't need or use root, but should I worry about rooting it before updating? From what I read, I can root MK2 and keep that root after updating, but I won't be able to root once I update to NC5. The only reason I would want it is, again, if it would be necessary for a future bootloader unlock.
Like I said, I know this unlock is only hypothetical, but maybe someone that knows more about it than me can extrapolate from past experience and requirements.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
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You can upgrade to nc5 with keeping the mk2 bootloaders if you dont take the ota
You got a very slim chance of either 4.3 or 4.4 being unlocked. Of course if you want to put yourself in the best possible position, stay on 4.3 since you can always upgrade to 4.4 if something did happen.
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Joshm is spot on...what little improvements found in kitkat doesn't strike me as enough of a reason to move to 4.4...I'm running baja rom with awesome performance.
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Thanks, follow up question then. Is there any way to get rid of that annoying "Software update ready to install" popup from Verizon?
BeanBagKing said:
Thanks, follow up question then. Is there any way to get rid of that annoying "Software update ready to install" popup from Verizon?
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Root your phone using SafeRoot then grab Titanium Backup from play store and freeze "SDM" . for good measure you can freeze " FWUgrade" too but SDM should do it.
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Mistertac said:
Root your phone using SafeRoot then grab Titanium Backup from play store and freeze "SDM" . for good measure you can freeze " FWUgrade" too but SDM should do it.
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Too late This morning I was unlocking my phone and hit the stupid install now popup that defaults to the top of everything when my phone wakes up.
The good news is the new Google Camera is amazing and I'm really no worse off. The bad news will come if anyone ever finds a way to unlock the bootloader that only works with previous versions
Thanks for the help everyone.
BeanBagKing said:
Too late This morning I was unlocking my phone and hit the stupid install now popup that defaults to the top of everything when my phone wakes up.
The good news is the new Google Camera is amazing and I'm really no worse off. The bad news will come if anyone ever finds a way to unlock the bootloader that only works with previous versions
Thanks for the help everyone.
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Well there is a downgrade method that partially puts your phone back to mk2 after taking the nc5 ota. You'd be able to have root and SafeStrap again. It's in Android Development. I haven't done it myself but hear it's not to hard to do
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