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I know most of you in this forum are former evo4g'ers; how are you dealing with a stock phone for the last week?
Any regrets about moving to the 3d?
I've gone to the store a few times to see if I could get excited about it, but, It keeps coming back to a rooted phone, or a stock phone..
The talented devs here will most certainly figure this out eventually, but, it appears that this phone is taking much longer than most others to get root..
Do you wish you would have waited until there is root, or, is this new guy enough fun as stock?
thanks for your feedback!
What's Flashing? Honestly this bad boy is enough fun for me as is right now. May only root to remove bloatware honestly.
I miss bloat-free operation, better battery life, and wireless tether. Other than that, the phone is quite incredible. In my mind, other than the 3D which is way cool, the 3vo is just a "little" better than its older brother. Once the 3vo gets root though, it'll wipe the floor with the 4G. I see the Sense overhead as a major drawback, so 3vo-with-sense barely beats Evo-with-AOSP. When the 3vo gets root and I can put a good AOSP ROM on it: KNOCK OUT!
Mike
I don't. I still have my Evo 4G and a Nexus One lol. Rockin the CM 7.1 RC :-D.
if i could at least get temp root, i could deal with that for a while
i can wait on flashing custom roms, but i miss the programs that at least needed root
But im not tripping, i'll give the devs about 3 more weeks to work it out before I return my phone, then back to my rooted CM7 evo 4G
I just want to be able to take all the bloatware off as well. Plus custom themes and boot animations are also nice
I'm actually happy being able to run my phone and not have to worry about what bugs the current Rom I'm using may cause.
I was quite the flash-aholic with the EVO, and the 3 devices before that. This one works really well without flashing. I could actually use this one stock.
Of course, it will take me about 5 seconds to flash something as soon as it becomes available and rooting is definately on the agenda for tethering, etc.
No regrets on my evo3d purchase, but I am reading every post on the root thread. I gave my evo running deck's ROM to my daughter and I expect shell put up a fight if I wanted it back.
Drugs. I'm not looking forward to those withdrawals though once I'm able to flash again...
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But im not tripping, i'll give the devs about 3 more weeks to work it out before I return my phone
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Isn't that a bit like firing the starting pistol before the runners have even arrived for the race?
I don't have any flash withdrawls. Flashing repeatedly gives you bad blocks. no thanks.
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Drugs. I'm not looking forward to those withdrawals though once I'm able to flash again...
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LMFAO!!
I just cant decide if I should wait awhile to get one, or, am I 100% certain that root will be achieved..I can't imagine many folks will rest at night until it is..
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I know most of you in this forum are former evo4g'ers; how are you dealing with a stock phone for the last week?
Any regrets about moving to the 3d?
I've gone to the store a few times to see if I could get excited about it, but, It keeps coming back to a rooted phone, or a stock phone..
The talented devs here will most certainly figure this out eventually, but, it appears that this phone is taking much longer than most others to get root..
Do you wish you would have waited until there is root, or, is this new guy enough fun as stock?
thanks for your feedback!
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I started flashing coke up my nose and its like flashing my phone never happened lol
Honestly im not missing flashing all the time. Its nice to pick up the phone and just use it.
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I started flashing coke up my nose and its like flashing my phone never happened lol
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that could become expensive...
You don't need root to remove bloatware apps.
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I think I can speak for most people here when I describe the feeling... I dunno, its like every little once in awhile I try to forget how much more awesome root access would be... But in the end the urge always returns. I guess its like being a vampire who is trying a synthetic blood... I find myself returning to the dev sections in the supersonic forums just to see what they've been cooking up.
The withdrawal will be short lived though (thank GOD) when they finally unlock the bootloader. I know for a fact the majority of people who made the switch will get root. Its a necessary evil LOL. Until then I'll accept my false sense of root security and enjoy a solid build for once
I miss cm7, wireless tether, better battery life, being able to hear my phone ring when It's in my pocket, and easier to press volume buttons.
I sold my rooted EVO tho... Might take this phone back and rock my sisters old hero until this phone gets rooted and at least the external speaker volume gets better or a better phone comes out.
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You don't need root to remove bloatware apps.
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not all of them, only the ones which can be found in the market. Try to get rid of peep... nope, can't, sucks... for now..
what have i been doin for my withdrawels? reading the s-off WIP thread and F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5
Ok guys... coming over from the OG Evo 4G... I love this phone so far. I've had it for about 2 days. Everything is great, except it seems that I'm getting some serious lag when coming out of applications or interwebs using the home key. I get 2 or 3 seconds of "loading" and then it fills in. They phone is stock with very little added at this point. I did get the new OTA update right when I activated, so not sure if its an issue with that or not. Is anyone else getting this lag? With the power this phone has, I feel there should be zero lag when doing simple activities... 2 or 3 seconds isn't acceptable. Tried a factory reset... Didn't improve. Any suggestions????
You're experiencing multitasking issues with sense reloads. Rooting can really help with that sort of thing.
Its really too bad you took that OTA, You won't be able to get full S-OFF.
If you aren't the rooting type, changing launchers can help
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Ok guys... coming over from the OG Evo 4G... I love this phone so far. I've had it for about 2 days. Everything is great, except it seems that I'm getting some serious lag when coming out of applications or interwebs using the home key. I get 2 or 3 seconds of "loading" and then it fills in. They phone is stock with very little added at this point. I did get the new OTA update right when I activated, so not sure if its an issue with that or not. Is anyone else getting this lag? With the power this phone has, I feel there should be zero lag when doing simple activities... 2 or 3 seconds isn't acceptable. Tried a factory reset... Didn't improve. Any suggestions????
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Root it and flash rom htc totally failed with multitasking
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Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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You're experiencing multitasking issues with sense reloads. Rooting can really help with that sort of thing.
Its really too bad you took that OTA, You won't be able to get full S-OFF.
If you aren't the rooting type, changing launchers can help
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Are there launchers that are more successfull than others for this phone? Apex? Nova?
STIDRIVER said:
Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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Supposedly it is but i dont think it has been fully addressed as devs are still making work arounds for it on thw new ota so my guess is yet another fail for htc
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STIDRIVER said:
Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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Clear wallet settings before flashing just to be sure if you're worried about that.
Unlock and root your phone, follow the 1.15 flashing instructions and get cm10, it will feel like a new phone. Well worth any risk (which IMO is low following instructions).
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I think something might be wrong with your phone. We've taken a dive into these phones the last couple of weeks. I got an EVO Lte first. It came with the newest update. So I rooted, but no s-off, of course. Running stock ROM. Runs great. No complaints, except the multi-tasking, of course. No lags, though.
MIL decided to move into a smartphone and got the same phone a few days ago, with my help. Left it completely stock and worked on it extensively loading apps, configuring it, etc. I notice zero difference between the phones. Same performance, no lag on either one, etc.
P.S. Wife picked up an S3 on Saturday. I'm in charge of setting it up, too. I expected to be realy wowwed by it. But after a couple of days of playing with it, I think I like the Evo better. I like both phones, but I think I made the right choice for me. It would be nice if HTC was as developer friendly as Samsung, though.
Update: Factory reset fixed the lag... it was acting up still right after I did it, which is when I posted the thread. But, after letting it settle for a day or so, its fine. Awesomeness restored. Thanks for the help though, and when the modding bug hits me, I know where to go.
Sometimes after just flashing a new ROM its a good idea to factory reset first, it gets tested for the device intended and released for others but an image is basically a snapshot of the ROM and everything in it, when you factory restore a new ROM, you really start fresh
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Update: Factory reset fixed the lag... it was acting up still right after I did it, which is when I posted the thread. But, after letting it settle for a day or so, its fine. Awesomeness restored. Thanks for the help though, and when the modding bug hits me, I know where to go.
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I hope you have better luck than I did. The lag came back. So far, minus the last few things that aren't working properly, CM10 is the way to go. It's like a whole new phone. No Lag, smooth as butter, no more waiting for Sense to load, just a much better all around experience. Thanks to Toast and Deck, incredible work!
Still running like a champ... I think the phone was just confused with activation, setup and the evil AirRave that hates all my phones... Factory reset seems to have worked. Trying to hold off on root/rom for now...
Silly Question....but I've only owned one HTC Device before, the BLUNDERBolt.....
My phone has been rotted (thanks to the instructions on Dev Help), but it's still S-On. I thought unlocking the bootloader would mean S-Off? Am I correct that we don't truly have a rooted device (since we can't make changes to the System partition) until we have S-Off?
Sort of...
Unlocked and root allows us access to custom recoveries and some apps that require root. We can make changes to the system through recovery only. It is the long road to make changes to system. Once we do get S-OFF we will be able to access system through file managers.
It's going to be like the early days of the ReZound all over again. Let's hope we get S-OFF before a lot of custom roms start showing up. Having to fastboot kernels after flashing the roms was a little time consuming and more advanced than what the normal rom flashing community was used to.
why does everybody hate the tunderbolt? it was a great device! and swifty is right. with S-off things will start to take off if we ever get s-off. sure hope somebody finds a way to unleash this beast!!
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why does everybody hate the tunderbolt? it was a great device! and swifty is right. with S-off things will start to take off if we ever get s-off. sure hope somebody finds a way to unleash this beast!!
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I went through 3 devices due hardware issues. My co-worker is on his 4th.
Blunderbolt Ha!
tdetroit said:
I went through 3 devices due hardware issues. My co-worker is on his 4th.
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It is amazing how much heavier the Thunderbolt is than the DNA. It's like a CRT compared to LED.
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It is amazing how much heavier the Thunderbolt is than the DNA. It's like a CRT compared to LED.
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This gave me flashbacks ot the horror when we would get ashipment of 50 new CRT monitors for the computer lab back in the day....much heavier than 50 LED monitors...lol. UPS guy HATED US!
I have an AT&T HTC One arriving shortly as a new customer on AT&T. I understand I have 14 days to try it out, so I want to make sure I put it to a full test. This will be my first HTC device since the Windows Mobile days, so I have a few questions to ask before starting to use my phone. I am not entirely for sure, but I will probably end up rooting and using custom roms, but probably not until the 14 days are over. With that in mind, here are my questions:
1) Should I unlock the bootloader right away? I understand that doing so erases everything on my phone, but it should not cause any problems if I decide to return the phone, right?
2) If I decide to root after the 14 days are up, I do not have to wipe the phone again, do I?
3) If I decide to use a custom rom, do I understand correctly that I will indeed have to wipe the phone again (but not the /sd card contents???) Meaning, my pictures/videos and all that will remain, but I will have to wipe the system?
4) My area does not yet have LTE (coming later this summer), so is there a way for me to turn it off to save on battery, or do I even need to attempt this?
5) I've been using an iPhone 5 since launch and it is still scratch-free without using a case. I'd prefer not to use a case with the One as well, and I only have my phone in my pocket. Is it reasonable to expect that my One will hold up as well as the iPhone 5 in this area?
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions,
Travis
1.yes,but it will show tampered in the bootloader but att employees don't usually check so as long as you flash the ruu before you return you should be fine
2.yes, you do because unlocking the bootloader causes the phone to wipe
3.yes, it is recommended to wipe only system and data but not your sdcard
4.if you don't have it in your area then you don't even need to mess with it
5.yes, because I've been using my phone for a while now with no case and everything looks fine but sometimes I do put my case on when I'm clummsy.
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1.yes,but it will show tampered in the bootloader but att employees don't usually check so as long as you flash the ruu before you return you should be fine
2.yes, you do because unlocking the bootloader causes the phone to wipe
3.yes, it is recommended to wipe only system and data but not your sdcard
4.if you don't have it in your area then you don't even need to mess with it
5.yes, because I've been using my phone for a while now with no case and everything looks fine but sometimes I do put my case on when I'm clummsy.
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Regarding #2, are you saying that if I am already bootloader unlocked and then decide to root at a later time, I *will* have to completely wipe the phone again? Or is it just the initial bootloader unlock that requires the full wipe?
i seriously doubt you will be returning this phone before the 14 days. especially if your coming from the iphone 5. this is the only phone that rivals the build quality of iphones. i have had mine since the release for tmobile and not one scratch on it. my girl has the iphone 5 and imo it cant touch this phone.
if apple and android had a baby it would be the htc one.
Travisimo said:
Regarding #2, are you saying that if I am already bootloader unlocked and then decide to root at a later time, I *will* have to completely wipe the phone again? Or is it just the initial bootloader unlock that requires the full wipe?
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No just the initial bootloader unlock unless you decide to change Roms
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skinsfanbdh said:
if apple and android had a baby it would be the htc one.
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Well that's exactly what I'm looking for.
I go back and forth between iOS and Android on a yearly basis, it seems. I've had the iPhone 5 since launch on Verizon, and I just returned the Samsung GS4 because it was very laggy and was locking up at least once per day. I'm going to try the HTC One on AT&T (even though the One has just been confirmed for Verizon later this summer) because I am tired of Verizon's policies. I'm tired of them taking longer than anyone else to get phones. I'm tired of their "customizations" like the persistent WIFI notification on the GS4 that no other carrier has. I'm tired of their locked bootloaders and locked down CDMA network. I'm sure AT&T will have its share of frustrations, but LTE is coming in my area this summer and I'm looking to try something different. I'm keeping my Verizon line for now since I have unlimited data on it, but I'm thinking the 5GB plan on AT&T will be more than enough (and I get a 25% discount through my employer).
Thanks for the help, guys.
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Well that's exactly what I'm looking for.
I go back and forth between iOS and Android on a yearly basis, it seems. I've had the iPhone 5 since launch on Verizon, and I just returned the Samsung GS4 because it was very laggy and was locking up at least once per day. I'm going to try the HTC One on AT&T (even though the One has just been confirmed for Verizon later this summer) because I am tired of Verizon's policies. I'm tired of them taking longer than anyone else to get phones. I'm tired of their "customizations" like the persistent WIFI notification on the GS4 that no other carrier has. I'm tired of their locked bootloaders and locked down CDMA network. I'm sure AT&T will have its share of frustrations, but LTE is coming in my area this summer and I'm looking to try something different. I'm keeping my Verizon line for now since I have unlimited data on it, but I'm thinking the 5GB plan on AT&T will be more than enough (and I get a 25% discount through my employer).
Thanks for the help, guys.
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this phone doesnt lag. probably the closes thing to the smoothness of ios. and yea dont get that cdma garbage from verizon at&t,tmo or developer version is the way to go as far as custom rom options at least for now. if you want more in depth info check out mike1986. review of the phone. he has only done the first part of the review but he is a developer over on the international thread for this phone.
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this phone doesnt lag. probably the closes thing to the smoothness of ios. and yea dont get that cdma garbage from verizon at&t,tmo or developer version is the way to go as far as custom rom options at least for now. if you want more in depth info check out mike1986. review of the phone. he has only done the first part of the review but he is a developer over on the international thread for this phone.
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Thanks for the reassurance. The lag on the GS4 was unbearable and even worse than I expected given my previous experience with the GS3 a year ago. Even after turning off every S-feature I could find, enabling the developer options and changing the animations, and disabling as much bloatware as I could, the phone still lagged when scrolling and just felt unresponsive at times.
If I really like it, I don't know how long I'll hold onto my Unlimited Data plan on Verizon. On AT&T, I understand that unlimited data users are throttled after 5GB anyway, right? I think 5GB will be plenty, as I normally hover in the 3-4GB range on Verizon each month (and that's with a good deal of music streaming and Youtube watching). I guess if I go over once in a while, I can afford the $10 for an extra gig now and then.
My only concerns right now are battery life and the buttons. I've seen mixed reports on battery life - some saying it is abysmal, others saying it's actually very good. I'm keeping my expectations tempered as I've just been using two of the better phones in this area (iPhone 5 and GS4). I'm not expecting battery life to be as good as those, but if it can last my through my 8 hours of work (no WIFI there), then I'll be okay.
The buttons, I'm sure I'll get used to. But I'm definitely looking forward to the 4.2.2 update that allows for the long press of Home for Menu, right? Will this also give you the option to get rid of the Menu bar that appears below non-standard apps that don't conform to Google's specs?
For those who are still engaged with the conversation, I have a few more specific questions about customizing if you don't mind... Since this is my first HTC Android device, there are some terms and methods I am not familiar with. I've used the Galaxy Nexus and the GS3 in the past and was able to understand enough to unlock the bootloaders and install custom roms on those devices. However, when reading about the HTC One, there are some things I do not yet understand:
1) I understand that the AT&T, T-Mobile, and International versions are basically identical hardware-wise, right?
2) What is CID, Hboot, and RUU? I don't remember having to deal with any of those terms with the Nexus and GS3. All I understand about the HTC One so far is that I need to unlock the bootloader at HTC's website. I'm sure I can also follow the instructions to root the device. Installing recoveries and custom roms is where things start to get a little foggy for me with this device.
3) I'm probably going to want to stick with a stock rom of some type because I am actually looking forward to some of the HTC features (especially with the camera). If the "Android Experience" rom still has some of the custom software for the camera, etc, then I might be interested in that. Otherwise, I just want to be rooted at 4.2.2 with a debloated device running as smoothly and as stable as possible.
Thanks!
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For those who are still engaged with the conversation, I have a few more specific questions about customizing if you don't mind... Since this is my first HTC Android device, there are some terms and methods I am not familiar with. I've used the Galaxy Nexus and the GS3 in the past and was able to understand enough to unlock the bootloaders and install custom roms on those devices. However, when reading about the HTC One, there are some things I do not yet understand:
1) I understand that the AT&T, T-Mobile, and International versions are basically identical hardware-wise, right?
2) What is CID, Hboot, and RUU? I don't remember having to deal with any of those terms with the Nexus and GS3. All I understand about the HTC One so far is that I need to unlock the bootloader at HTC's website. I'm sure I can also follow the instructions to root the device. Installing recoveries and custom roms is where things start to get a little foggy for me with this device.
3) I'm probably going to want to stick with a stock rom of some type because I am actually looking forward to some of the HTC features (especially with the camera). If the "Android Experience" rom still has some of the custom software for the camera, etc, then I might be interested in that. Otherwise, I just want to be rooted at 4.2.2 with a debloated device running as smoothly and as stable as possible.
Thanks!
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1- yes pretty much the same
2- cid is your phone id which tells you what ruu you need. ruu is the stock rom your phone came with. hboot you really dont need to worry about until we get s-off
3- all the custom sense roms include all the htc features so no worries there
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and btw with the battery life when i first got my htc one battery life was average at best but after a few battery cycles it improved.
first week probably averaged about 10-12 hrs with 6hrs on data with the rest wifi
second week 15-20 hrs with 6 hrs data
after that it pretty much leveled out and i average around 30 hrs 6 hrs on data and anywhere from 4-7 hrs screen time and all data is lte i dont turn data to 4g or 3g to save battery. so the first 7-10 days you might be cutting it close to get through the day on a single charge. a lot depends on signal strength though. i think most of those bad battery threads were from people who just got the phone and battery wasnt good at first. might also be because of stock rom. i flashed a custom sense rom the first day i got the phone
Ok, I got my HTC One today and so far I am loving it! However, I am disappointed to see that there is a persistent notification for "Power Saver". Argh, on the GS4 there was a persistent notification for WIFI (on Verizon), and now this one. What is it with these guys and their non-removable persistent notifications? I guess they think people are that stupid (and maybe most are on), but there should at least be an option to turn it off.
So from what I'm reading, the only thing I can do is to force close it each time, or to root my device and install a mod? Really?
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Ok, I got my HTC One today and so far I am loving it! However, I am disappointed to see that there is a persistent notification for "Power Saver". Argh, on the GS4 there was a persistent notification for WIFI (on Verizon), and now this one. What is it with these guys and their non-removable persistent notifications? I guess they think people are that stupid (and maybe most are on), but there should at least be an option to turn it off.
So from what I'm reading, the only thing I can do is to force close it each time, or to root my device and install a mod? Really?
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yea pretty much but not really an issue for me because i never intended to stay stock
oh and btw s-off has just been released in the international forum so you might want to keep an eye over there. with that you will be able to go back to complete stock without any trace of unlocking and rooting
hows the smoothness for you? i know your an iphone guy and i would like to hear your feedback
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yea pretty much but not really an issue for me because i never intended to stay stock
oh and btw s-off has just been released in the international forum so you might want to keep an eye over there. with that you will be able to go back to complete stock without any trace of unlocking and rooting
hows the smoothness for you? i know your an iphone guy and i would like to hear your feedback
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Yeah, I'm not too worried about the notification either because I will eventually root and rom... not for a while though.
I am in love with the design of the phone, to be an honest. I feel it tops my iPhone in almost every way in terms of hardware. The iPhone is still more smooth, but I think it's more a matter of Apple prioritizing the touch response and animations over everything else. The One is definitely more smooth than the GS4, though, and I noticed that right away. The Facebook app still stutters, but I think that's just Facebook's fault... it stutters if you scroll before everything has loaded.
I've set up Nova launcher with a shortcut to Blinkfeed (which I actually like). Disappointed that I can't use the HTC widgets in Nova, but I'm finding replacements. Charging the battery now (which I read takes longer than average), and tonight at work will be my first "real" test with the phone.
Thanks for replying.
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Yeah, I'm not too worried about the notification either because I will eventually root and rom... not for a while though.
I am in love with the design of the phone, to be an honest. I feel it tops my iPhone in almost every way in terms of hardware. The iPhone is still more smooth, but I think it's more a matter of Apple prioritizing the touch response and animations over everything else. The One is definitely more smooth than the GS4, though, and I noticed that right away. The Facebook app still stutters, but I think that's just Facebook's fault... it stutters if you scroll before everything has loaded.
I've set up Nova launcher with a shortcut to Blinkfeed (which I actually like). Disappointed that I can't use the HTC widgets in Nova, but I'm finding replacements. Charging the battery now (which I read takes longer than average), and tonight at work will be my first "real" test with the phone.
Thanks for replying.
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you can make another screen your home screen with sense launcher so you dont have blinkfeed in your face everytime you unlock the phone. and just so you know i just tried the s-off and it works on my tmo htc one. i successfully got s-off tampered removed and supercid. its confirmed working for at&t also
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you can make another screen your home screen with sense launcher so you dont have blinkfeed in your face everytime you unlock the phone. and just so you know i just tried the s-off and it works on my tmo htc one. i successfully got s-off tampered removed and supercid. its confirmed working for at&t also
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Yes, I figured out the Blinkfeed thing. Right now I am using Nova Launcher with a shortcut to Blinkfeed when I want to use it. The only thing bad about using Nova is that a bunch of the HTC widgets are not there anymore to use. Power toggles, Clocks/Weather, FM Radio widget, etc are all missing when using Nova Launcher. I understand that HTC widgets are only visible when using the Sense launcher? That's a bummer...
So explain again what the advantage of s-off is? Just so you can go back to completely stock if something goes wrong?
I think I will wait for this upcoming 4.2.2 OTA before deciding whether to unlock my bootloader and/or root. I'll take the time right now just to learn the phone and start reading all of the forums.
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Yes, I figured out the Blinkfeed thing. Right now I am using Nova Launcher with a shortcut to Blinkfeed when I want to use it. The only thing bad about using Nova is that a bunch of the HTC widgets are not there anymore to use. Power toggles, Clocks/Weather, FM Radio widget, etc are all missing when using Nova Launcher. I understand that HTC widgets are only visible when using the Sense launcher? That's a bummer...
So explain again what the advantage of s-off is? Just so you can go back to completely stock if something goes wrong?
I think I will wait for this upcoming 4.2.2 OTA before deciding whether to unlock my bootloader and/or root. I'll take the time right now just to learn the phone and start reading all of the forums.
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with s-off and supercid you can install the ruu/ota from any htc one variant except sprint/verizon. but you could use the international ota which is 4.2.2
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with s-off and supercid you can install the ruu/ota from any htc one variant except sprint/verizon. but you could use the international ota which is 4.2.2
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Ah, I see. With the AT&T OTA update rumored to be coming out in the next week or two, I think I'll just wait right now before jumping in.
Ironically, LTE just lit up in my area (Quad Cities, Davenport IA area) last night, so I was able to try that out as well!
So my first night at work with the new phone was very successful. Here are some things I noticed when comparing the One to my normal usage on the iPhone 5 with Verizon:
- LTE speeds on AT&T were comparable to Verizon at my workplace. However, AT&T had better penetration because my iPhone (and past LTE Android phones) would drop down to 3G deep inside the building, whereas AT&T stayed on LTE the whole time. In fact, I think the One has only dropped down to 4G (HSPA+) one or two times since I got it, whereas the Verizon phones constantly change between 3G and LTE.
- Battery life on the One was surprisingly good! My normal 8-hour shift consists mostly of playing Doggcatcher podcasts at 1.5 speed through Bluetooth headphones. I also use the phone on my breaks, along with a bit of Hotspot tethering for my iPad. With my iPhone 5, I'm normally at 40-50% battery life when I leave work, and the One was right about there as well. I would say that the One is very efficient when the screen is off, but a bit of a sucker when using the screen. That's to be expected, especially with that nice bright screen. Overall, I am very pleased and quite relieved to discover that I'll make it through a day of work no problem.
- The speakers are amazing! This is the first phone I can actually listen to music on without cringing. Having the speakers in the front of the phone is huge advantage as well. The iPhone 5 is no slouch in the audio department, but the One is noticeably better.
- I like the screen better on the One compared to the Galaxy S4. The latter has better blacks and contrast, but lacks color accuracy and is practically unviewable outdoors. I am definitely getting spoiled by these high DPI displays! The extra screen real estate on the One compared to the iPhone is liberating. Apple needs to release a larger screen iPhone now - not next year - because nobody who uses the larger 1080p screen is ever going to go back to the puny 4" screen again.
More thoughts later...
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Travisimo said:
Ah, I see. With the AT&T OTA update rumored to be coming out in the next week or two, I think I'll just wait right now before jumping in.
Ironically, LTE just lit up in my area (Quad Cities, Davenport IA area) last night, so I was able to try that out as well!
So my first night at work with the new phone was very successful. Here are some things I noticed when comparing the One to my normal usage on the iPhone 5 with Verizon:
- LTE speeds on AT&T were comparable to Verizon at my workplace. However, AT&T had better penetration because my iPhone (and past LTE Android phones) would drop down to 3G deep inside the building, whereas AT&T stayed on LTE the whole time. In fact, I think the One has only dropped down to 4G (HSPA+) one or two times since I got it, whereas the Verizon phones constantly change between 3G and LTE.
- Battery life on the One was surprisingly good! My normal 8-hour shift consists mostly of playing Doggcatcher podcasts at 1.5 speed through Bluetooth headphones. I also use the phone on my breaks, along with a bit of Hotspot tethering for my iPad. With my iPhone 5, I'm normally at 40-50% battery life when I leave work, and the One was right about there as well. I would say that the One is very efficient when the screen is off, but a bit of a sucker when using the screen. That's to be expected, especially with that nice bright screen. Overall, I am very pleased and quite relieved to discover that I'll make it through a day of work no problem.
- The speakers are amazing! This is the first phone I can actually listen to music on without cringing. Having the speakers in the front of the phone is huge advantage as well. The iPhone 5 is no slouch in the audio department, but the One is noticeably better.
- I like the screen better on the One compared to the Galaxy S4. The latter has better blacks and contrast, but lacks color accuracy and is practically unviewable outdoors. I am definitely getting spoiled by these high DPI displays! The extra screen real estate on the One compared to the iPhone is liberating. Apple needs to release a larger screen iPhone now - not next year - because nobody who uses the larger 1080p screen is ever going to go back to the puny 4" screen again.
More thoughts later...
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As you start reading up on the forums you may find the posts about how AT&T "fluffs" the signal. I am running the international trick droid ver 7.0.0 and it does have the same speed just the signal bar is not tweaked for simulated better signal. Also this rom has build options to remove the three dot menu as well as debloat and turn off power save notification. It runs like butter no laggs. I dont have or use FB so i cant speak for it. Keep us posted on how you like it.
I know the there's discussion about this phone being on is last legs, but I'm just joining the party. I finally am getting into a phone with a more modern ROM as i have been stuck in the gingerbread world for the last couple years. Since my phone had only a couple custom roms available and they're all based on gingerbread, this will be a welcome change. Even if i don't root and add a custom rom, it will be worlds Better.
I had to wait until better phones became more affordable since I'm on a prepaid plan (Ting, actually) and have to buy the phone outright without any subsidy from the carrier.
I should get the phone early next week. Any advice on what to do or not to do when i first get it? I'm reading up on the forums about the phone, and it looks like there are a TON of custom ROMs to pick from, if i choose to go that route.
Thanks, looking forward to participating in the discussion.
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I know the there's discussion about this phone being on is last legs, but I'm just joining the party. I finally am getting into a phone with a more modern ROM as i have been stuck in the gingerbread world for the last couple years. Since my phone had only a couple custom roms available and they're all based on gingerbread, this will be a welcome change. Even if i don't root and add a custom rom, it will be worlds Better.
I had to wait until better phones became more affordable since I'm on a prepaid plan (Ting, actually) and have to buy the phone outright without any subsidy from the carrier.
I should get the phone early next week. Any advice on what to do or not to do when i first get it? I'm reading up on the forums about the phone, and it looks like there are a TON of custom ROMs to pick from, if i choose to go that route.
Thanks, looking forward to participating in the discussion.
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The best advice I could give you is to keep doing what you've been doing, reading. Educate yourself as much as possible. Read the sticky threads in the Q&A section. If you decide to start flashing, learn how to use fastboot and ADB commands as this knowledge will be helpful if you run into problems down the line. Toolkits are simple but they don't provide the knowledge needed to troubleshoot your issues. Always search these forums and Google for any questions you might have first before you post a question. Being that this device has been around for a long time, pretty much any issues you might encounter, have already been addressed here. Congratulations on your new device and I trust you will enjoy it immensely.
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Hey, I was in pretty much exactly the same boat as you 2 weeks ago - just joined Ting in fact. I went straight to the official HTC 4.3 upgrade build, unlocked, rooted, and S-OFFed (ask if you don't understand any of that ) and am pretty happy with it actually. Very solid even though they haven't released an OTA. Don't just take my word for it of course, explore all the resources here, find what you like and have fun.
Official RUU to upgrade to HTC 4.3 build (must be run from Windows): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47503288
Thank you both for the replies. I understood most of what you said, except the concept of an RUU is new to me, but i gather that it's an update from HTC to a new version of their ROM. And I'm a little fuzzy on what S-OFF vs S-ON means, but I still have more reading to do. Including the stickies on q & a section.
I guess one question i do have for you is about the difference between the "new partition" and "old partition," and what is preferable or what is better about one over the other. And once you have everything set up rooted, etc. you don't have to hook it up to the computer in order to flash new ROMS, right?
I'll probably start out with the official RUU and then maybe try some custom ROMS if any seem worth checking out. Depends on how i like sense. I'm used to pretty much stock Android, so we'll see.
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Thank you both for the replies. I understood most of what you said, except the concept of an RUU is new to me, but i gather that it's an update from HTC to a new version of their ROM. And I'm a little fuzzy on what S-OFF vs S-ON means, but I still have more reading to do. Including the stickies on q & a section.
I guess one question i do have for you is about the difference between the "new partition" and "old partition," and what is preferable or what is better about one over the other. And once you have everything set up rooted, etc. you don't have to hook it up to the computer in order to flash new ROMS, right?
I'll probably start out with the official RUU and then maybe try some custom ROMS if any seem worth checking out. Depends on how i like sense. I'm used to pretty much stock Android, so we'll see.
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The new partition layout, in my opinion, is much better. It makes better use of the internal storage space. In short, it is how most other devices use it and how it should have been from the start. I almost never connect my phone to a PC any more. I have WiFi so I download ROMs and mods to my phone via the xda app and then install via TWRP.
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Thank you both for the replies. I understood most of what you said, except the concept of an RUU is new to me, but i gather that it's an update from HTC to a new version of their ROM. And I'm a little fuzzy on what S-OFF vs S-ON means, but I still have more reading to do. Including the stickies on q & a section.
I guess one question i do have for you is about the difference between the "new partition" and "old partition," and what is preferable or what is better about one over the other. And once you have everything set up rooted, etc. you don't have to hook it up to the computer in order to flash new ROMS, right?
I'll probably start out with the official RUU and then maybe try some custom ROMS if any seem worth checking out. Depends on how i like sense. I'm used to pretty much stock Android, so we'll see.
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For a good explanation of S-off & S-on, hit the top link in my sig. There is also a section explaining what a RUU is.
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I would actually advise against jumping directly on the 4.3 boat. Take a few days to experience Sense 4+ before jumping to Sense 5. Granted, Sense 5 is a completely new experience, so learning Sense 4 doesn't help the learning curve too much, but it's something to do.
Try to enjoy every aspect of your phone before jumping on the bandwagon along with everyone else. I always have said in the past that you need to experience different roms (and different Android versions in this case) to truly appreciate and understand what makes one rom better than the other. Read some more about roms & kernels. Try using a custom kernel that was built for Sense 4.
But finally, I absolutely advise you to upgrade to the new format using the 4.3 RUU. The difference is night and day. Many are rocking the stock rom, and the speed knocks the SOCKS off of Sense 4 stock, and even some custom Sense 4 roms! But you wouldn't know that unless you try them out first...just saying.
And one more thing...get S-Off, as everyone has suggested. Otherwise, you might run into a situation where you think that your phone is bricked while trying to flash am AOSP rom. Not a guarantee, but I'm just saying.
Thanks, I just got the phone last night and activated it on Ting today. I have already installed some of my essential apps but will wait until I get root tonight (hopefully) and restore apps from my old phone with titanium.
I will poke around and see what trouble I can get in with 4.1 and 4.2 before making the switch to the newest version.
I seem to be getting 3G data service fine. I don't know if I'm just not in a LTE service area, or if I have to do something special to get it with Ting.
I'll check out several of the ROMs and see what I like. I was pretty limited with my old phone so this could take me a while to familiarize myself with what's available.
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Welcome aboard! I'm also on Ting with an EVO 4G LTE running 4.3. I'll check back in case I have anything helpful to add. I'd definitely recommend the newer ROMs with new partition layout - there's more space for apps! With earlier ROMs I kept running into "out of space" messages when updating or installing apps.
I also did S-OFF so the bootloader is unsecured, meaning you can flash anything you want to any part of the phone (in my limited understanding). This way there's always a way out if you get into trouble flashing a ROM.
This phone rocks, and is one of the best out there in my opinion. It's also underrated, so you can pick up a decent one for about $100. I intend to get more than my money's worth out of this one, and use it as long as possible (mostly because I don't have extra money to be buying new devices all the time). My only wish is that the camera had better image quality.
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Welcome aboard! I'm also on Ting with an EVO 4G LTE running 4.3. I'll check back in case I have anything helpful to add. I'd definitely recommend the newer ROMs with new partition layout - there's more space for apps! With earlier ROMs I kept running into "out of space" messages when updating or installing apps.
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Just a quick question. Do you get LTE data on your phone with Ting? Not that i care that much but i think i should be in service area to get it, but it only shows 3G on the status bar. I usually just use WiFi so it's not that big of a deal. Just wondering.
I was able to successfully root and unlock the boot loader, and install TWRP recovery. Tonight i think I'll try my luck with getting S-OFF.
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Just a quick question. Do you get LTE data on your phone with Ting? Not that i care that much but i think i should be in service area to get it, but it only shows 3G on the status bar. I usually just use WiFi so it's not that big of a deal. Just wondering.
I was able to successfully root and unlock the boot loader, and install TWRP recovery. Tonight i think I'll try my luck with getting S-OFF.
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I do get LTE in my area but in some places I have to do a PRL update first. You might also check Settings, Mobile Data, and make sure network mode is LTE/CDMA.
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I do get LTE in my area but in some places I have to do a PRL update first. You might also check Settings, Mobile Data, and make sure network mode is LTE/CDMA.
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Cool, thanks. I just did a search on LTE service in my area, and it appears that they are actually in the process of upgrading our towers to LTE, right now, so that's probably why I'm not seeing it much. Hopefully in the next couple months it will become more prevalent. For now, I'm satisfied with 3G since as I said, I mostly use WiFi anyway. And I imagine I'd burn through data more with a faster connection, so it's not a huge deal to me. But thank you for confirming that I at least should be able to access it on Ting, once it's available on my towers.
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Just a quick question. Do you get LTE data on your phone with Ting? Not that i care that much but i think i should be in service area to get it, but it only shows 3G on the status bar. I usually just use WiFi so it's not that big of a deal. Just wondering.
I was able to successfully root and unlock the boot loader, and install TWRP recovery. Tonight i think I'll try my luck with getting S-OFF.
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I certainly do; I was having issues with LTE at first but it turns out it's just a weak signal where I am (Santa Clara/San Jose). Sprint's upgrading here as well. Oh well, I usually leave data off anyway