Hi Guys.
I'm looking for a good ROM! I would like a stock rom, but modified, improved and twicked in battery life, wifi signal, etc.
What is the best for you?
Ouden said:
Hi Guys.
I'm looking for a good ROM! I would like a stock rom, but modified, improved and twicked in battery life, wifi signal, etc.
What is the best for you?
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So, in other words, not a stock rom. See the development section and educate yourself on what's there
I Have only tried Cleanrom, Had my prime stock for noe year, worked ok expert Internet waiting/force close. With cleanrom it is absolutely Great!
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I like energy and bb8 personally.
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Is any of these ROMs solving the browser ANRs and the general lag of the prime? I am wandering whether to void my warranty.
Ouden said:
Hi Guys.
I'm looking for a good ROM! I would like a stock rom, but modified, improved and twicked in battery life, wifi signal, etc.
What is the best for you?
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Wookie 1.51 with the built-in Clemsyn kernel that disables Fsync. It is a fully functional stock ROM that alleviates some of the issues with our crappy internal storage. This setup actually makes the tablet usable. You will not see any improvement in battery life, and weak GPS and Wifi are hardware/design faults so no ROM will improve that. I have tried CM and Paranoid, but they ran like crap.
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mirox3m said:
Is any of these ROMs solving the browser ANRs and the general lag of the prime? I am wandering whether to void my warranty.
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Yes, at least somewhat. I have not seen any ANRs since. But the key is not the ROM but a kernel that disables Fsync. Either way, you need to be unlocked. I will not get into the potential issues with disabling Fsync, as that has been discussed, only to say that it can cause data corruption. But I have not seen it yet, and the tablet is actually usable. AndroWook 1.51 with the included Clemsyn kernel does just that. Void your warranty, Asus warranty is useless anyway.
+1 to Androwook. Battery isn't made any better as the rom encourages overclocking and WiFI/GPS won't be improved further because those are hardware flaws. Otherwise its an improvement in every way.
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+1 to Androwook. Battery isn't made any better as the rom encourages overclocking and WiFI/GPS won't be improved further because those are hardware flaws. Otherwise its an improvement in every way.
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Mine overclocks stably to 1.7 Ghz and gives me the same quadrant scores as my stock dual-core Galaxy S3. Otherwise, battery life on this tablet was always crap, but I can't say that overclocking made it significantly worse. The display eats a lot of juice, so watch the brightness.
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Mine overclocks stably to 1.7 Ghz and gives me the same quadrant scores as my stock dual-core Galaxy S3. Otherwise, battery life on this tablet was always crap, but I can't say that overclocking made it significantly worse. The display eats a lot of juice, so watch the brightness.
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What quadrant score do you get? Cleanrom 3.4.2 with Clemsys 1.5-1.8 kernel gives me approx 6300 in performance Mode
And FSync is not disabled. Look at the quadrant scores in topp of thread at the Cleanrom thread with and with out FSync
I assuming Browser2Ram helps a lot?
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I'm loving AndroWook too. Been on Hairy Bean 1.51 for a while with the Clemsyn kernel. No issues. Just started using 2.2 (which is still at RC stage) and really liking it. Got a 6360 score on Quadrant earlier.
I've been following the Androwook thread for a while now but have yet to take the plunge. I'm wondering if I do that now or wait a bit... being pretty new to ROM-ing, I'm uncertain as to how difficult it would be to upgrade the rom when a new version comes out (say we finally get 4.2 for the 201, so Androwook switches from using the tf300 firmware as a base to using the tf201 firmware as a base). I have no concept of how much time (something I don't have enough of these days) it might consume to do a full wipe and upgrade, and get everything back to the way it was.
If you have Titanium Backup it's pretty straightforward. You do need to do a factory reset, so that involves backing up your personal data before you do it. I've got pretty practised at that now and it didn't take long.
It's best to get Titanium to back up all your apps' data before you do it; I only backed up the most recent apps, so lost a little inessential stuff: recent files on RepliGo and so on. If you have the Pro version restoring's very fast.
I'm using Nova Launcher and it even restored all the shortcuts on the home screen, which was pretty neat.
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commiades said:
If you have Titanium Backup it's pretty straightforward. You do need to do a factory reset, so that involves backing up your personal data before you do it. I've got pretty practised at that now and it didn't take long.
It's best to get Titanium to back up all your apps' data before you do it; I only backed up the most recent apps, so lost a little inessential stuff: recent files on RepliGo and so on. If you have the Pro version restoring's very fast.
I'm using Nova Launcher and it even restored all the shortcuts on the home screen, which was pretty neat.
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One thing I will add to this is if installing a 2.x version is to make sure these backups are created on the External SD as the Internal SD is going to be wiped completely by the bootloader upgrade.
asking for a "good" rom is against the rules, so stop.
try them yourself
As the above said.
We do not allow such threads here, the often spark fights over the 'best' rom, when really it all just comes down to your own personal views.
Want to know the best ROM? download a few and try them yourself
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Just to give context of what I am trying to get, here's the background information:
I had HTC Thunderbolt and the stock Verizon ROM was really bad.
ISSUE: bad battery life, crashes, random reboots, etc.
SOLUTION: I tried MANY custom ROM and after a long time, found one that works great and stuck with it for months. Although I am OK installing custom ROM, but the journey of finding which one is right is NOT something I enjoy (multiple ROM, Kernel, tweaks, etc.)
Afterwards, I bought an International version of Galaxy Note, a CARRIER-UNLOCK phone with none of the carrier crap or firmware. The stock ROM works great, so much so I don't have to install a custom ROM
- ISSUE: NONE! Great battery life, really fast and buttery smooth
- SOLUTION: NONE!
Unfortunately, my International Note went defective and it was not covered under Samsung Warranty. Not wanting to go through the same non-warranty issue, I am planning to buy the AT&T version of the Note.
So my question is:
Using the STOCK AT&T ROM, do YOU get the following:
- Good battery life (at least 8 hours - I don't mind rooting and freezing some crap)
- Fast OS performance (not laggy, etc.)
- Stable OS
I don't care about ICS or what not, I just want something that works with the above.
I am just trying to figure out if I have to go through the same thing when I had my Thunderbolt (see above) or not.
It's sort of a subjective thing so you really need to try it out for yourself. That said, most users are reporting great results with the stock ROM.
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It's sort of a subjective thing so you really need to try it out for yourself. That said, most users are reporting great results with the stock ROM.
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Do you get at least 8 hours of battery life?
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Do you get at least 8 hours of battery life?
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I get 14 to 16 on saurom overclock 1.83 on demand
"Since God created man, and man created the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy Note are like a gift from God, Randal!*"
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I get 14 to 16 on saurom overclock 1.83 on demand
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I get the same on stock rooted oc'd 1.73 on demand.
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I get the same on stock rooted oc'd 1.73 on demand.
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Since you don't use custom ROM, which app do you use to control the CPU? CPURoot?
Also, is your Note stable and fast performance wise? I.e. playing 3D games doesn't stutter, opening large Word or Excel file is smooth, etc.
Set CPU and yes, it's very smooth and stable. The only game I had minor issues with was temple run. I haven't had a single problem since oc'ng. After root I flashed Da g's oc'd kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504920
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Just found this article:
http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-7-overclocked-to-1-64-ghz-destroys-tablets-priced-3x-more
The article mentions something about a "Trinity" kernel. Look at those write speeds! Anyway, is there anything we can do like this to our Primes?
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Just found this article:
http://www.androidpit.com/nexus-7-overclocked-to-1-64-ghz-destroys-tablets-priced-3x-more
The article mentions something about a "Trinity" kernel. Look at those write speeds! Anyway, is there anything we can do like this to our Primes?
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Who cares about quadrant benchmarks? Btw the nexus 7 has basically the same chip as the prime (or almost) so this could be done to our tablet as well i guess. But the currently released kernel sucks ass. So NVIDIA should finally release something good for us!
I don't particularly care for benchmarks, but when something almost identical to our Primes performs much better than them, I'd like a piece of that pie...
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The trinity kernels are available at derkernel.com. I don't know much about android development, but would it not be possible for someone to port this kernel or build one for our prime? Benchmarks mean very little, but I'd live to know how this kernel impacts our real life performance, especially the write speeds.
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benchmarks and especially from quadrant suck .. my prime loads things like browser pages apps etc faster than nexus 7 , (tested it myself ). also the prime in the benckmark shown in your link is just full stock without tweaks etc ,
as i said my prime loads things faster so who cares about a stupid benchmark
ps im running jellybean not ics
You should also take into consideration that the N7 runs Jellybean, which brings performance updates.
Is the prime getting official jb?
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Are you kidding, every tablet/phone rapes Prime when it comes to disk speed. And Asus didn't even bother to fix this in Infinity.
Nobody wants to point out that this exact behaviour (I/O scores going insane) happens on other devices when you overclock?
It's just Quadrant freaking out and giving wrong scores. I/O scores can't magically double because of a 200mhz overclock to the cpu.
Nothing to see here, move along.
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Nobody wants to point out that this exact behaviour (I/O scores going insane) happens on other devices when you overclock?
It's just Quadrant freaking out and giving wrong scores. I/O scores can't magically double because of a 200mhz overclock to the cpu.
Nothing to see here, move along.
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They say they use a different kernel, it's not JUST an overclock. It's different mounting options, other optimalizations. Still, the io score is insane and I guess there's some trick to it. (Different mounting options on the prime jb roms lead to an 2 or 3-fold improvement already).
I've been tracking benchmarks, the N7 doesnt beat the TF. It's not stable at certain OC speeds and won't complete the test. I was able to test it at a "stable" OC speed and see results. I can't unlock my prime so it's basically stock (except for a I/O fix) and it beats the N7 OC 1.6GHz linaro kernel. When I tried the Trinity kernel it wouldn't finish the test, so it's not ready yet. Both are on regular settings, I didnt try to get high benchmarks, since that would require lots of tweaking and draining of the battery, I tried to get normal, everyday results. Stock vs stock shows the TF beating the N7. OC vs stock shows the TF almost beating the N7 despite it being OC. If I was able to OC the prime, then it would be a better result for the prime, OC vs OC.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnAJoa0-ynONdDZIUk1EZFZfay1mN3RScU42VnNia2c
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Is the prime getting official jb?
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Yes it is though there is no definitive word on when. In my mind the two main issues surrounding comparisons at this point are that the N7 has the new version of the OS and also that the new OS uses Chrome as it's default browser. The reviewers typically use whatever is the default browser on the device for bench marking browser scores. So to do an apples to apples comparison we would have to wait for the TF201 to get its 4.1 update (hopefully soon) and compare when both devices are using the same version.
It's more than just a ROM. I'm on JB rom and it performs like ass. Obviously the people who managed to get the benchmark, made some tweaks that aren't public yet. A benchmark that shows impressive results is still showing what that thing can do. My Prime has never performed like that on any rom/kernel that I have tried...
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I/o improvements on trinity kernel is real for nexus 7. im running it now. on rl sqlite bench i get 16secs. overall. motley latest kernel on nexus7 gives same great results. on that kernwl we have gpu overclocked to 520mhz. like it is on prime. on nenamark2 i get 64.7+ Fps.
my app store apps downliad and install nearly instantly. reason trinity kernel i/o so high is because if you run trinity toolkit app, it automatcally loads a script to improve i/o. then also has option to run with fsync set to faster. those users with highest I/o scores use both i/o improvement scripts. it does translate to real world oerformance though.
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I've been tracking benchmarks, the N7 doesnt beat the TF. It's not stable at certain OC speeds and won't complete the test. I was able to test it at a "stable" OC speed and see results. I can't unlock my prime so it's basically stock (except for a I/O fix) and it beats the N7 OC 1.6GHz linaro kernel. When I tried the Trinity kernel it wouldn't finish the test, so it's not ready yet. Both are on regular settings, I didnt try to get high benchmarks, since that would require lots of tweaking and draining of the battery, I tried to get normal, everyday results. Stock vs stock shows the TF beating the N7. OC vs stock shows the TF almost beating the N7 despite it being OC. If I was able to OC the prime, then it would be a better result for the prime, OC vs OC.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnAJoa0-ynONdDZIUk1EZFZfay1mN3RScU42VnNia2c
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trust me, developement for nexus 7 smokes prime. i have both also. except my prime is unlocked and oc. nexus 7 still beays it by largw margin. reason being nexus 7 has better/newer kernel base. plus nexus 7 kernels more performance oriented.
so oc vs. oc. nexus 7 wins. why? because although nexus7 in its infancy developement wise, they already made larger strides in performance improvements. stock vs. stock, prime wins in "most" categories. like gpu or cpu intensive benching. even then, stock, nexus 7 still beats out prime in other areas, like i/o performance.
developement scene on nexus7 has more to work with. they abke to do more. we have franco kernel, faux kernel, morrific der kernel, motley, etc... all the hardest hitting devs. are developing for it. tons of custom roms. whether original or kanged.
prime performance and benching will dramatically improve once its on jelkybean and newer kernel & drivers. bigger improvements can be made dev. wise once primw updates to jb.
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It's more than just a ROM. I'm on JB rom and it performs like ass. Obviously the people who managed to get the benchmark, made some tweaks that aren't public yet. A benchmark that shows impressive results is still showing what that thing can do. My Prime has never performed like that on any rom/kernel that I have tried...
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if you run i/o script and use fsync on orime, your i/o scores will dramaticalky improve along with i/o performance.
Why is quadrant still even used? It was already proved to be heavily outdated and is overall terrible.
There are so many better benchmarking apps out there.
@demandarin Do you think I have not tried those? goodness...
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Gotta say.. seeing stuff like this has been making me chomp at the bit for a new release on the Prime, or to simply unlock and install a ROM on the device... the only reason I've held out this long, is due to the fact that Gary occasionally calls out for locked devices for beta testing.
We have a Nex7 at the house, and everything it does is just faster than the Prime... *sigh* Quite depressing, really.
I agree, there isn't much dev work on the Prime at all compared to the Nexus 7. But I think that's because the price point and it's from "Google" so it's more...universal and updated. I love both devices for separate reasons. The Prime and Nexus 7 are basically the best android tablets out there imo (except for the TF infinity, but that only has a better screen). My Evo LTE isn't too far behind either (does better on other tests) but dev work kinda sucks for that as well. I'm hoping the JB update will speed things up for the Prime. On the OG transformer it actually works pretty well.
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It's more than just a ROM. I'm on JB rom and it performs like ass. Obviously the people who managed to get the benchmark, made some tweaks that aren't public yet. A benchmark that shows impressive results is still showing what that thing can do. My Prime has never performed like that on any rom/kernel that I have tried...
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If you are on JB now, then by definition you are on a beta level ROM at best. Every one of them come with a list of the things they don't have working yet - which is not a poke at the developers but only to say that whatever JB ROM you are running now is not what the rest of us will be getting when the real update comes out.
Screen size makes a massive difference to performance.
Rewriting data to the larger estate takes extra grunt away from performance figures.
Hey guys I just got NFS: Most Wanted on the ATT Note. The gameplay and the controls are great but the game sort runs in slowmo. Anybody else getting different performance in other ROMS?
I'm running flapjaxx's AOSP ICS rom W/ GPU OC and CPU OC. I assume the slowness is due to the Note's large resolution and it's not quite as optimized as it could be for our phones. It is smooth but just terribly slow.
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OOOOKAY guys I am back with some interesting results!
I continued to try more roms and see the performance with Need for Speed Most Wanted. I first tried Flapjaxx's stock ICS rom with touchwiz with an overclock kernel and gpu OC. That ran better than any of the AOSP but still had some slowness to it.
Seeing as the stock roms tended to give more performance, I tried another stock rom. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933. No OC kernel, everything stock pretty much. Here is what happened:
1. I restored NFS from titanium
2. NFS says this android is not compatible
3. I uninstall NFS and install it from the Playstore and redownload the SD data
4. Ran the game and observed that there was little to no lag! Well I'm sure it could be a bit better, the frame rate was totally playable and it actually felt speedy!
Now i'm not sure what is happening here. Either 1. the game downloaded a new SD data with lower graphics requirements, 2. the game recognized the device as a different device and choose the graphics setting accordingly, OR 3. the device just performs better @ mostly stock. Now can anybody inform me on how the SD Data actually works that would be great so I can pinpoint what it is.
My next test will be using the above rom that yielded good performance with flapjaxx's OC/GPU kernel to see if it speeds up the frames anymore.
UPDATE 2
After a bit more testing I see that without the OC kernel and using the kernel from 'better stock' ROM above, the road actually is missing some water and effects which is probably leading to the smoother gameplay! If anybody else is testing this let me know what your results are!
UPDATE 3
Trying out flappjaxx's Jelly Bean rom with his GPUOC and CPUOC. No surprise there, graphics got bumped up.
What I did notice is that there is almost NO DIFFERENCE in frames (from what I could see) from Stock rom + AOSP/JB roms with OC kernel in BUMPER CAMERA MODE despite the higher graphics. To be clear, those of you on AOSP that are already using bumper mode will not get higher frames in bumper mode on something like a stock rom. There is little to no difference in bumper modes. Should be all that I can test now. I will be sticking with this Jellybeanie and playing NFS in bumper camera mode myself (in car view).
EA, give us graphic options. That is all.
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In conclusion:
Game is somehow determining the graphics through the kernel
SD Data downloaded is the same on every rom, don't have to download new SD Data.
Some roms perform better than others. I had a lot of luck with Jelly Bean roms on stock kernel, no need to overclock.
Figured I'd give you guys a ranking list from roms. Going from best to worst
1. Latest Jelly Bean Nightly 11/21 Stock Kernel - Great out of car and even faster in car - graphics medium
2. Flapjaxx's FJ Stock Rom Mod - OCGPU/CPU best performance (in car view only) - graphics high
3. Electro's Stock Rom - Stock Kernel with no OC Okay performance in both out of car view and in car view - graphics medium
im running AOPK milestone 1, You can kinda play the game....but all the cars are black the buildings are black and the road is black....Not really sure what is going on! but I do get the slowmo at first but after I go to the menu and go back to playing the game it starts to run smoothly....in black that is!
I noticed the slowness as well, I switched to the in car view and it runs much better. Give that a try...
Sounds like u downloaded the wrong SD data
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im running AOPK milestone 1, You can kinda play the game....but all the cars are black the buildings are black and the road is black....Not really sure what is going on! but I do get the slowmo at first but after I go to the menu and go back to playing the game it starts to run smoothly....in black that is!
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That's jelly bean right? I had some problems running games and with graphical glitches in jelly bean until I turned off HW overlay and that stopped my problems.
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I noticed the slowness as well, I switched to the in car view and it runs much better. Give that a try...
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Wow, yeah running in that camera mode is a lot better. Hopefully the fix the issues completely. Thanks for the tip!
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What do you mean?
Seems to run a little laggy on mine, and it's a real battery hog as well
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Seems to run a little laggy on mine, and it's a real battery hog as well
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Ditto, switching to in-car view is definitely a lot smoother, has decent graphics but looks like the limit of S3 Adreno 225 chip has been reached, this (and other games of similar graphic quality) may be enough reason for me to upgrade to note 2 later. I also have slow down problem with NBA 2K13.
No real graphic glitch however, if you see missing textures it has to be wrong sd data, remember we are Snapdragon NOT Mali.
Im on liquid RC7 with KK.12 kernel no overclocking and the game seems to run fine for me with no lags..however Tomdg07 is right its a battery hog which quite frankly isnt a surprise. I just got off a 30 minute subway ride and I was playing it the entire time..used up exactly 20% of the battery.
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Im on liquid RC7 with KK.12 kernel no overclocking and the game seems to run fine for me with no lags..however Tomdg07 is right its a battery hog which quite frankly isnt a surprise. I just got off a 30 minute subway ride and I was playing it the entire time..used up exactly 20% of the battery.
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Really? No lag? Hmm, what's that ROM? Is it one of the Jellybeanies? Have you tried in car view to see if it is even faster than out car?
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Really? No lag? Hmm, what's that ROM? Is it one of the Jellybeanies? Have you tried in car view to see if it is even faster than out car?
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Yes indeed no lag at all - Liquid is a jellybeanie you can find it in the original development thread. To be honest I havent had the need to try in car view because the out car view has been working fine.
I should mention though that whilst I have not over clocked I am using several build prop tweaks some of which Im sure optimize graphics and what not.
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Yes indeed no lag at all - Liquid is a jellybeanie you can find it in the original development thread. To be honest I havent had the need to try in car view because the out car view has been working fine.
I should mention though that whilst I have not over clocked I am using several build prop tweaks some of which Im sure optimize graphics and what not.
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Just tried NFS Most Wanted on Liquid with KK Kernel and no luck. I even tried some build prop tweaks. It just feels too slow. Weird.
Going to try deleting it and redownloading the SD Data instead of restoring it from Titanium. Will report back with results.
EDIT: No go either. Still low frame rates. On a good note however, Liquid Jellybean Rom is probably the most stable of the Jellybeanies.
OOOOKAY guys I am back with some interesting results!
I continued to try more roms and see the performance with Need for Speed Most Wanted. I first tried Flapjaxx's stock ICS rom with touchwiz with an overclock kernel and gpu OC. That ran better than any of the AOSP but still had some slowness to it.
Seeing as the stock roms tended to give more performance, I tried another stock rom. This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766933. No OC kernel, everything stock pretty much. Here is what happened:
1. I restored NFS from titanium
2. NFS says this android is not compatible
3. I uninstall NFS and install it from the Playstore and redownload the SD data
4. Ran the game and observed that there was little to no lag! Well I'm sure it could be a bit better, the frame rate was totally playable and it actually felt speedy!
Now i'm not sure what is happening here. Either 1. the game downloaded a new SD data with lower graphics requirements, 2. the game recognized the device as a different device and choose the graphics setting accordingly, OR 3. the device just performs better @ mostly stock. Now can anybody inform me on how the SD Data actually works that would be great so I can pinpoint what it is.
My next test will be using the above rom that yielded good performance with flapjaxx's OC/GPU kernel to see if it speeds up the frames anymore.
UPDATE
Tried the OC Kernel on the stock ROM which lead it to being slow again! I'm not sure now what to think. Going to wipe and go back to the 'better stock' kernel not the 'pure stock'.
After a bit more testing I see that without the OC kernel, the road actually is missing some water and effects which is probably leading to the smoother gameplay! If anybody else is testing this let me know what your results are!
I really just wish there was an in-game settings option to reduce the graphics quality...... (if there is and I'm missing it please fill me in)
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I really just wish there was an in-game settings option to reduce the graphics quality...... (if there is and I'm missing it please fill me in)
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Agreed. Right now there is no way to change graphics quality. Certainly would save me trouble. What I think is happening is that with some Roms and Kernels the game thinks we have higher hardware and cranks up the graphic quality thus slowing down the performance of the game.
What I found is every time I used an OC kernel of some type, the game slows. So it might be a kernel issue.
I just cant comprehend why despite having the same phone and same setup (i.e. rom, kernel etc) we get totally different results.
PS> Tomdg07 props to your state for pushing obama over the 270 he needed to win. Americans totally made up for giving dubya two terms.
I was testing some more Roms yesterday including Black IV and Electro's stock debloated Rom. Black IV had flapjaxx's kernel with the ability to OC and on the Electro was not OCable.
My results were the same. Something about flapjaxx's kernel or kernels with the ability to OC makes the game bump up in graphics thus making it slower. The game must be scanning the clockspeed or something or maybe it's something deeper than that. If I can I want to test out AOSP roms again to see if its the kernel or both the kernel + the rom.
Trying out flappjaxx's Jelly Bean rom with his GPUOC and CPUOC. No surprise there, graphics got bumped up.
What I did notice is that there is almost NO DIFFERENCE in frames (from what I could see) from Stock rom + AOSP/JB roms with OC kernel in BUMPER CAMERA MODE despite the higher graphics. To be clear, those of you on AOSP that are already using bumper mode will not get higher frames in bumper mode on something like a stock rom. There is little to no difference in bumper modes. Should be all that I can test now. I will be sticking with this Jellybeanie and playing NFS in bumper camera mode myself (in car view).
EA, give us graphic options. That is all.
UPDATE: Those of you that are finding this page and reading this post. Look on the front page for what roms are the best for this game.
Got an alert to update the game when opening it, after updating it won't even open, anyone else issues after update?
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Got an alert to update the game when opening it, after updating it won't even open, anyone else issues after update?
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Same issue. Luckily I had a backup of the SD data on my hard drive so I can revert back. But yeah something messed up in that download messed up the game for us.
Metsuna said:
Same issue. Luckily I had a backup of the SD data on my hard drive so I can revert back. But yeah something messed up in that download messed up the game for us.
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Only form of a backup I have is in the nandroid backup I did before flashing cm10, I suppose I could dig it out of there somehow, but I'll give them a day or two to fix it first
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I just wanted to come over to the General forum and let you all know that Scotty's Clean 4.5 is probably the most amazing ROM I have ever seen on any device.
out of the box Antutu is 17500....I'm running 10.5 hours with 2 hrs screen time and I have 71% battery left.
seriously folks....it's all day zoom zoom and it looks and feels totally stock.
If you haven't tried it....for the love of Pete..."DO-IT MAUN!"
Man, ur playing with fire here. But I would have to agree, it is a pretty nice rom if you prefer the stock look.
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I ran his roms when I had my gs3. Tbey were the best. Fast and everything worked. I havent tried any roms fpr tgis one yet but when I do it will be his rom first.
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I love it as well. Best performance out of any ROM. But I also am in love with AOSP and 4.2 is amazing. So torn!!!
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I cant do the stock look, it doesnt agree with me!
Bradh024 said:
Man, ur playing with fire here. But I would have to agree, it is a pretty nice rom if you prefer the stock look.
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Yeah... I'm just letting people know tjere was a stock-ish rom with un believabke battery performance. I can't even remember where my extra battery is....I havent used it since I started using Clean.
Other roms are great...clean is...just amazing
I gotta give this a try
A couple of things...
Is everything working?
And of course the famous "is wifi tether working"?
And - how stock is stock? Do you get the horrible message in your pull down, "There are wifi networks available?", "Your wifi is off" blah blah blah. Man! That was irritating!
Thanks for any information.
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I disagree. I wasn't impressed with that ROM.
But its your opinion. Glad u like it.
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sudermatt said:
I just wanted to come over to the General forum and let you all know that Scotty's Clean 4.5 is probably the most amazing ROM I have ever seen on any device.
out of the box Antutu is 17500....I'm running 10.5 hours with 2 hrs screen time and I have 71% battery left.
seriously folks....it's all day zoom zoom and it looks and feels totally stock.
If you haven't tried it....for the love of Pete..."DO-IT MAUN!"
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Im at 1d, 10 hours and almost 1.5 hours screen time, I have 56% left....
Oh and stock.
Sorry but no zip rom dev will ever improve battery life without coding their own battery saving applications.
I am sure the rom is great, but don't credit battery life to it
Short of going to AOSP, you cannot significantly change battery life on any ROM compared to what it is based off of. So, if you make a ROM based on Stock TouchWiz, it is going to get approximately the same usage as the Stock ROM. If you have doubts, go do a comparison test. Even undervolting isn't going to do anything significant for you with modern day processors.
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Short of going to AOSP, you cannot significantly change battery life on any ROM compared to what it is based off of. So, if you make a ROM based on Stock TouchWiz, it is going to get approximately the same usage as the Stock ROM. If you have doubts, go do a comparison test. Even undervolting isn't going to do anything significant for you with modern day processors.
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...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
adrynalyne said:
...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
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I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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bond32 said:
I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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It has always been my belief that you use roms for features, not performance or battery claims.
I use Jelly Beans ROM 8 and the performance and battery life is 100 times difference. The battery with heavy usage was at 56% from 7am until 5pm. My Galaxy Note 2's performance without overclocking has been extremely fast in comparison to stock, I can now watch videos with any browser without the hour glass circle hanging for an extended period of time.
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bond32 said:
I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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AOSP based ROM's can get you better performance and improve battery life (though I very rarely if have ever actually see the later).. At this time there are still issues with AOSP here and there.. most notably the gpu has either glitches or a memory leak (one or the other) and bluetooth is sketchy.
Zip ROM's or Stock ROMS will not change either performance or battery life by any real significance.
Basically I am reiterating what adrynalyne and imnuts said here
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...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
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I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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AOSP based ROM's can get you better performance and improve battery life (though I very rarely if have ever actually see the later).. At this time there are still issues with AOSP here and there.. most notably the gpu has either glitches or a memory leak (one or the other) and bluetooth is sketchy.
Zip ROM's or Stock ROMS will not change either performance or battery life by any real significance.
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Your Liberty rom on my old Droid X improved performance and battery life significantly, and my co-worker mentions often how her friends and family with better, newer phones are surprised that her phone runs better.
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1ManWolfePack said:
I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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I don't notice as much now, but with older devices bloat had a huge impact on performance and battery life. On some of my phones blockbuster was one of the biggest battery hogs and I've never once opened that app. On my Droid X with 512mb ram it would start to lag at 90mb free, it was really bad once it got down to 70mb free, and would freeze at 50mb free. Before I first rooted I had to use a app killer before I used my phone so it wouldn't lag, and if I used it more than 20 minutes or so I had to run it again to stop the lag. Once I rooted I started using an app to set the memory to always keep 90 mb or more free and didn't have lag anymore, but the apps I was using would constantly redraw but bloat apps I never used would be eating up all my ram, I debloated it and have been fine ever since.
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1ManWolfePack said:
I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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Those *things* you never used are backgrounded and harmless, despite perceptions.
I have never seen a battery use screen shot chock full of apps never used draining the battery. ...
Except Maps. That one is annoying.
I am fully stock still and almost 2d usage with 34 percent left.
This is with Scott's clean Rom 1.0. Maybe stock gives you the same battery performance. But this Rom is as smooth as butter.
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Hi Guys,
I know my question is probably provocative. But I tried out a few roms:
* Infamous
* CM 10.1 SGHT
* Nameless 4.4
But all of them are not able to play a YouTube video without freezes. Some of them developed extreme lag after using them a while or have strange issues like Nameless - which is actually not surprising at its beta.
Maybe someone can recommend a ROM, it should be Jelly Bean at least. Can live without KitKat. All I am looking for to have something a tad more up to date than the stock one and smooth.
Cheers
Holger
Good luck! Please tell if you found it.
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Han-Droid said:
Good luck! Please tell if you found it.
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Yes I will...
Well I asked for a rom, but what I am figuring out what I need is a new tablet. Again a 10" because I am reading sometimes PDFs on it, but with a better screen and more ram... and maybe not from SAMSUNG. I am disappointeod that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 not even got JB.
This device has never been very good to begin with. Even the original Samsung ROMs did not run things well. It struggled with HD Youtube videos back then too. The truth is the Nvidia Tegra 2 chip was over hyped.
I finally found a rom that plays HD videos om YouTube butter smooth, is very fast and reliable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831040
The stock ICS rom, deodexed, zip aligned and alrrady rooted.
My recommendation is, also to install the A1 Kernel for stock roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833136
It claims an additional 64MB ram back, so you get 786 instead of standard 722MB and you can overclock of course.
Together with the Nova launcher and Chrome as my browser I am a lot more happy than with the other custom roms in the past 12+ months.
My pad flies and the touch wiz UI feels more ergonomic than all the JB additions...
linuxholgi said:
I finally found a rom that plays HD videos om YouTube butter smooth, is very fast and reliable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831040
The stock ICS rom, deodexed, zip aligned and alrrady rooted.
My recommendation is, also to install the A1 Kernel for stock roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833136
It claims an additional 64MB ram back, so you get 786 instead of standard 722MB and you can overclock of course.
Together with the Nova launcher and Chrome as my browser I am a lot more happy than with the other custom roms in the past 12+ months.
My pad flies and the touch wiz UI feels more ergonomic than all the JB additions...
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The battery, how is the battery? Don't know if that's old now, but... does it sleep correctly?
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The battery, how is the battery? Don't know if that's old now, but... does it sleep correctly?
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I will post later today some screenshots of some tools to have an idea about battery consumption. For me it deep sleeps well and battery is :good: But in detail after 6 - 7 hours of testing.
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The tablet is now almost 7 hours on battery. I used quite a lot today, but not perfectly reflected by the screenshots because I rebooted once. The battery consumption in standby is around ~2.5%/hour. Maybe even less. I also configured my pad, to turn off wireless when in standby and not on AC.
For me it feels like a new tablet. Yesterday evening I watched reviews about 10" tablets and already checked prices. Today I am sure I will not waste money so soon on a new one. The old Galaxy Tab feels so fast and smooth, fun using it.
Only thing annoyed me is the ICS keyboard, without digits when you hold the top row keys. So I replaced it with an actual one and that works beautifully:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2657791
For the launcher I chose Nova launcher and I am also using the more up to date Chrome browser. I don't miss anything, its more the opposite. I am grateful to have the TouchWiz UI and some of the Samsung apps back.
For all who wants to give it a try. Just do the factory reset e.g. TWRM offers and flash the ROM. I would boot it once and then flash the A1 kernel. After that its advisable to move the contents of the "0" folder back into the root (your pictures etc are not lost of course). Otherwise it might be confusing for some apps or yourself. You can use ES File Explorer for that (Cut & Paste). With Trickster Mod or any other tool, over clock it to 1400 or to your liking. But even at 1000 it runs great!
best battery for me
stock rooted , debloated - ( uninstalled everything i dont need )
i have this kernel running from early editions and stopped at some version , don't know which ,
worth a try - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877784
So which one did you choose exactly....there are several versions of Toldo's ROMs.....
TIA
linuxholgi said:
I finally found a rom that plays HD videos om YouTube butter smooth, is very fast and reliable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831040
The stock ICS rom, deodexed, zip aligned and alrrady rooted.
My recommendation is, also to install the A1 Kernel for stock roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833136
It claims an additional 64MB ram back, so you get 786 instead of standard 722MB and you can overclock of course.
Together with the Nova launcher and Chrome as my browser I am a lot more happy than with the other custom roms in the past 12+ months.
My pad flies and the touch wiz UI feels more ergonomic than all the JB additions...
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So which one did you choose exactly....there are several versions of Toldo's ROMs.....
TIA
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Well I chose the WiFi one for the Singapore model. As it was the singaporean model I bought.... Its a matter of your location and model wifi or wifi/3G which ROM you would chose.
No need to go back to ancient versions, i'm using this right now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510198
in addition with some overclock/nova/greenify premium and it is very fast, smooth and reliable, would totally recommend.
Still, I felt a bit sad about KitKat. Wasn't ART going to "make things easier" for low-specs/legacy devices? All i get is hiccups and bad performance :/
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The tablet is now almost 7 hours on battery. I used quite a lot today, but not perfectly reflected by the screenshots because I rebooted once. The battery consumption in standby is around ~2.5%/hour. Maybe even less. I also configured my pad, to turn off wireless when in standby and not on AC.
For me it feels like a new tablet. Yesterday evening I watched reviews about 10" tablets and already checked prices. Today I am sure I will not waste money so soon on a new one. The old Galaxy Tab feels so fast and smooth, fun using it.
Only thing annoyed me is the ICS keyboard, without digits when you hold the top row keys. So I replaced it with an actual one and that works beautifully:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2657791
For the launcher I chose Nova launcher and I am also using the more up to date Chrome browser. I don't miss anything, its more the opposite. I am grateful to have the TouchWiz UI and some of the Samsung apps back.
For all who wants to give it a try. Just do the factory reset e.g. TWRM offers and flash the ROM. I would boot it once and then flash the A1 kernel. After that its advisable to move the contents of the "0" folder back into the root (your pictures etc are not lost of course). Otherwise it might be confusing for some apps or yourself. You can use ES File Explorer for that (Cut & Paste). With Trickster Mod or any other tool, over clock it to 1400 or to your liking. But even at 1000 it runs great!
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It's true, the tablet is faster and more stable with this rom than KK. I'm going to try it for a while
For mi the only problem is that contacts app doesn't load. I have an exchange account.
Thanks for the advise :good:
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It's true, the tablet is faster and more stable with this rom than KK. I'm going to try it for a while
For mi the only problem is that contacts app doesn't load. I have an exchange account.
Thanks for the advise :good:
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I grabbed the latest cm10 from droidbasement.com dated from last August and works like a charm sleeping and performance wise compared to how this tablet usually does.
And that is even 4.1.2 which in my opinion has been one of the best performant and smooth version of Android.
daniel_fm said:
I grabbed the latest cm10 from droidbasement.com dated from last August and works like a charm sleeping and performance wise compared to how this tablet usually does.
And that is even 4.1.2 which in my opinion has been one of the best performant and smooth version of Android.
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Do you have a link for that please?
Honeycomb is the only android version in our tab that can play smooth HD video from YouTube without a single lag.
And among those honeycomb Roms, galaxy task14 is the best.
By the way, omni ROM jelly bean is good, but not good enough to play HD YouTube.
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Yes I will...
Well I asked for a rom, but what I am figuring out what I need is a new tablet. Again a 10" because I am reading sometimes PDFs on it, but with a better screen and more ram... and maybe not from SAMSUNG. I am disappointeod that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 not even got JB.
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Hi, if you found some manufacturer that released JB for same old hardware let me know!
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.me said:
Do you have a link for that please?
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http://droidbasement.com/galaxy/roms/cm10/p4wifi/
Make sure you are on correct recovery.
volja1971 said:
Hi, if you found some manufacturer that released JB for same old hardware let me know!
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http://droidbasement.com/galaxy/roms/cm10/p4wifi/
Make sure you are on correct recovery.
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Which recovery are you using??? Tried to flash this with twrp and no dice.....
In my case the P7500 (3g) I went for:
http://droidbasement.com/galaxy/roms/cm10/p4/
All you need is there, the bootloader, the modem, the recovery.
All .tar.md5 files you flash them with Odin in "Download mode" - "(Volume down + Power) + Volume Up". Since I was fully on it I flashed them all one by one: bootloader, modem and recovery. (PDA button only!)
Once you have that flashed, from terminal you boot into recovery, select install from sideload and from your computer with the tablet connected you do:
adb sideload /your/path/to/cm-10-20130825-UNOFFICIAL-p4.zip (supposedly you have it downloaded somewhere when you reach this step )
Later on when you see the tablet boots normally and everything is alright, you can go to recovery again and install google apps for "CM10" not .1 or anything, CM10! which you can get from here:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps
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Which recovery are you using??? Tried to flash this with twrp and no dice.....
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I am not sure if this will work with Two. It certainly works perfectly with CWM Recovery it is actually right in the folder I pointed out. You should flash it via ODIN. if you do not know how to do this let me know and I will guide you.