For those on the Fence!!!! - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

I know many people post and come here looking for guidance on whether they should keep the Note 1 or upgrade to the Note 2. And here is my honest opinion. Let me first start off by saying how much I loved the Note 1's size and that it pretty much keeps me locked into buying only a few devices based on that fact alone. And although the Note 2 is only .2 inches larger it packs enough other features to make it a great upgrade.
Now a little about Me. I am definitely a phone lover, I have had over 20 different phones in the past few years, and love trying out different brands and operating systems. But I usually like to stick to Stock and really don't mod my devices.
Let me first start off by saying had Samsung upgraded the Note 1 to Jelly bean, I probably would have the Note 1 Still. And yes, I know I could have installed Jelly Bean or had it installed by an experienced technician, but I prefer my devices to be stock. Although the Note 1 is an incredible device its hardware begin showing its age. The phone I once thought was very smooth started chugging along as more hardware intensive applications were installed on it. I would have too reset the phone every so often to help keep enough Ram free to keep things from slowing down too much, and did a few full factory wipes when things got too bad. But all in all the Note 1 is a good phone and I would still recommend it to someone who likes to mod, or to someone who wants the big screen of the note series but doesn't like the price tag of the Note 2.
Now onto why I think you will love the Note 2. Well, first If you like the Note 1 you will definitely like the Note 2, they share many things in common. Like I mentioned before the Note 2 screen is not much bigger that the Note 1. Second, Touchwiz although it has been refined more, its still touch wiz, and the software between most of the galaxy phones is very familiar which is a good thing. But, what the Note 2 improves on makes it worth purchasing. First the feature I love the most is the speed upgrade. With 2 GB of Ram this phones speeds through things and you will experience less waiting for web paged and apps to load. Second on the software side, Samsung has introduced knew features where when you take out the S pen or plug in the headphones It will take you to a special homepage where the necessary content is easily available, for instance if you plug in the head phones it takes you to a page with the music widget, this overall makes it easier to play music. A design feature that I love and is unique to the American Variants of the Note 1 is the home button. Fore some the four touch buttons might make navigating easier but I love double tapping the home button to turn the screen on especially when i'm trying to change songs while driving, and tapping once to exit an application.
Well I hope this helps someone on the fence, who is thinking but not quite sure what to do. To summarize the Note 1 is a great phone, but I believe the Note 2 packs enough new features and design elements to warrant an upgrade.

ive decided to keep my note, holding out hope for a JB update :good:

At this time I will wait for note3. We are only 5-6 months away...and I think we are going to get jelly bean upgrade soon anyway.with most of the note2 features included. There's really dont have any good reasons to get note2 now. Unless our phone broke.and u need a phone now..
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Yeah I wished they would have upgraded the Note 1 to Jelly Bean already, but I got tired of waiting. But thats Googles fault they should start holding manufacturers accountable for there upgrades. Better yet manufacturers should start shipping all phones out with pure Android on them and the owner of the phone will have the choice of installing there skin or rocking the pure experience, atleast that way when an update comes out it will be available immediately and all the manufacturer would have to do is update its skin to the newest Android version, problem solved.
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The Note 2 is a really good phone but in a few more months, the Note 3 is gonna be release and most of us are willing to keep our Notes til then. My girl has the Note 2 and even she says that the 16x10 screen ratio is better than the 16x9 ratio on the note 2.
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The note 2 is light years ahead of this phone in every regard. This phone was like an experiment gone wrong.

If you think about it the gnote1 was the guinea pig. Notice every company is coming out with 5 inch phones now to compete with Samsung? Remember when our phone was a niche and people thought we were crazy??!
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crixley said:
The note 2 is light years ahead of this phone in every regard. This phone was like an experiment gone wrong.
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Just wondering...How was the OG Note like an experiment gone wrong?
More like the Dell Streak was a bad experiment.
The OG Note was the first 5+ inch screen phone that gained traction for Phablets. Plus bringing back the olden day stylus but making it do much more with features is damn well amazing.
Now...almost every mobile manufacturer and their grandmas are producing 5+ inch screens.
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
Just wondering...How was the OG Note like an experiment gone wrong?
More like the Dell Streak was a bad experiment.
The OG Note was the first 5+ inch screen phone that gained traction for Phablets. Plus bringing back the olden day stylus but making it do much more with features is damn well amazing.
Now...almost every mobile manufacturer and their grandmas are producing 5+ inch screens.
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Laggy, poor battery life, end of life nearly immediately... The note 2 is what the note should have been from the start

Note3 for me with Key Lime Pie then ..Lemon Drop or whatever they're gonna call it.
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Yeah I'm also waiting for the Note 3. Getting the Note 2 is pointless now...
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Laggy, poor battery life, end of life nearly immediately... The note 2 is what the note should have been from the start
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I believe AT&T still carries the OG Note so its not at the end of life like the HTC Droid DNA which got EOL within only 4 months. The Note 2 should've had 1080p full resolution...but I'm sure we'll see that on the Note 3 which will make the Note 2 obsolete. Nuff said
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
Yeah I'm also waiting for the Note 3. Getting the Note 2 is pointless now...
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I believe AT&T still carries the OG Note so its not at the end of life like the HTC Droid DNA which got EOL within only 4 months. The Note 2 should've had 1080p full resolution...but I'm sure we'll see that on the Note 3 which will make the Note 2 obsolete. Nuff said
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I hardly think that difference in resolution makes it obsolete, especially considering when it came out... You're reaching
Is getting treated by Samsung like an old dog that should be put down, that's what I meant about EOL. Canadian carriers still sell it too

Proud owner of the I717 flashed to run on the Tmobile and it's MVNO's Network. Good points throughout this thread, the Dev Community has kept this device more than capable in my eyes. Had I the spare cash when the Note 2 came out, I probably would have grabbed one, but as other's have stated, the Note 3 is literally right around the corner, and will have the features that I'm looking for, namely the 1080 res, and more cores under the hood. Note 3 is my next device unless someone comes out of left field with something comparable.

I too wanted the Note 2 when it first came out. But since the Note 3 or Samsung's Mega phones are on the way, I'll just wait. Merry Christmas to me.
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Drunken1 said:
Proud owner of the I717 flashed to run on the Tmobile and it's MVNO's Network. Good points throughout this thread, the Dev Community has kept this device more than capable in my eyes. Had I the spare cash when the Note 2 came out, I probably would have grabbed one, but as other's have stated, the Note 3 is literally right around the corner, and will have the features that I'm looking for, namely the 1080 res, and more cores under the hood. Note 3 is my next device unless someone comes out of left field with something comparable.
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You must be drunk cause there is no confirmed release or existence of the note 3 yet .. Rumor Lol.. Just giving you hell
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Well.......since getting the note 2, I can say without a doubt that it's simply a great device. Battery life is superb, and function with the quad core chip is nimble and effortless.
However, with every device comes it's setbacks, and the note 2 is no exception, with a borked up browser, weak glass screen, and resolution that is "NOT" improved over the note 1, just to name a few of the issues I've found.
The note 1 was a breakthrough device. And Samsung created a whole new user base with it. It's life is not even close to over, as the device is still sold in several markets world wide, and refurbished devices are flowing like water from Texas.
I love the note 1, and it will always hold a unique place in the handset world. so those of you who want to move over to the note 2, go ahead. It's a great device, but so is the note 1 in many ways.
Enjoy them both while they last, as we are sure to see a third version in the works soon. But for now, don't worry about it, as it's only a rumor......and we all know about rumors, and how they end up much different than the reality we live with.
Happy flashing....g

Samsung would be a fool if they didn't release another version of the BEST PHABLET on the market! It was probably the 2nd or 3rd Best selling Android last year. For all the doubters.
.Trust me...we'll see the Note 3!
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Well.......
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Greg, can you elaborate on the weak glass screen? Is it flimsy compared to the 717 or has it broken on you?
Thanks bud!

I'm thinking of downgrading the screen size and going for a HTC ONE. Having a nexus 7, a surface pro, and a computer makes me feel like the galaxy note is neglected a lot and there's really no need for such a device now. I still want a smartphone, just not one this big since the nexus 7 is with me anyway. Oh well, to each his own. I did try and end up not buying the note 2.

SKyRocKeting727 said:
The Note 2 is a really good phone but in a few more months, the Note 3 is gonna be release and most of us are willing to keep our Notes til then. My girl has the Note 2 and even she says that the 16x10 screen ratio is better than the 16x9 ratio on the note 2.
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if you ever break up, your girl has plenty of options...
I kid, and yet I dont, 16:9 drives me nuts! So nuts in fact that I refuse to buy ANY laptop/desktop monitor with a 16:9 aspect ratio! Sure the laptop's are quickly becoming outdated, but ill switch to a tablet with 16:10 before I upgrade to a laptop with 16:9
A true 7" tablet phone (not phone tablet/phablet) with 16:10 before Id give up my GNote for the GNote 2 with 16:9! Well, that or a swap with my i717 for an n7000!

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Week Until Release

Well 7 days as of Thanksgiving until this phone hits VZW customers pockets. I am really starting to get excited. Seems like its been such a long wait. This is going to be my phone for years to come. I am going to be investing alot into this phone.What are your thoughts on the Galaxy Note II right now?:thumbup: :thumbdown:
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I just hope I don't fail one of my lab finals next Thur
Seriously, I can't wait. All these people saying they are getting 12hrs of heavy usage makes me ecstatic. I have been wondering if there is a use case for the media dock for me personally. I already have a pretty nice desktop. I think for my Dad would be perfect. His laptop needs to be replaced and he needs something with a big screen. Maybe just grab a generic touchscreen monitor and the media dock for him.
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"This is going to be my phone for years to come" made me lol...I give it 6mo before the s4 or something else drops and you will be moving on. Although its getting to a point where upgrading is not a huge improvement anymore. I really dont think its going to have a huge WOW factor over the S3, but I must admit I still want one lol...mainly because I initally wanted the note but it never made it to VZW so I settled for the S3.
I'm excited too, but can't upgrade for another month. Doubt I'll be satisfied for "years" though. Android has come a long way since I bought my thunderbolt and I'm sure I'll feel that again in two years.
You never know maybe Q4 next year we'll have octocore phones lol
Maybe we should get some sort of count down timer. I've been waiting since the original Note for Verizon to get in the game.
Props to the person that puts the countdown on Verizon's homepage.
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I'll be keeping my N2 until the next comparable device comes out on Verizon. Luckily I'm able to get a subsidized phone every year.
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Until I get the box and see the phone, I do not want to be disappointed if Verizon delays shipment.
I hope the DNA fails miserably so Verizon feels our pain. I think that they will realize their error when they get mobbed by all of us next week. I have been waiting for a note on Verizon forever. Just a heads up, if you go to wirefly, it is 280.00
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I'm getting 36+ hours with 7 hours screen on time on LTE. I haven't had to turn off LTE once. The Note 2 blows away the GS3 in every way. TW on JB seems like an improvement over the stock N7 experience.
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Verizon delayed it for so long it almost feels obsolete already with new phones like Nexus 4 out and new ones probably coming out around Christmas time. On top of that, they crapped on the home button.
mi7chy said:
Verizon delayed it for so long it almost feels obsolete already with new phones like Nexus 4 out and new ones probably coming out around Christmas time. On top of that, they crapped on the home button.
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If you are going pick a phone that makes the Note 2 feel almost obsolete, I wouldn't go with the Nexus 4 (Android iPhone 5 without LTE?).
I can't wait to retire my Thunderbolt. Done with all the problems with this phone. Oh, and the crazy delayed updates.
I think until something else of a similar size comes out (Note 3?) This phone will keep me plenty happy.
It certainly has the hardware to run the Android OS for a long time to come.
Note 3 should be expected in about a year.
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Verizon delayed it for so long it almost feels obsolete already with new phones like Nexus 4 out and new ones probably coming out around Christmas time. On top of that, they crapped on the home button.
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Not worried until the Note 3 comes out or until HTC and Motorola make a phablet with a S-Pen like device. The S4 could be released tomorrow and I would still pick the Note 2 unless Samsung start putting S-Pens in all devices.
I think i'll be set till the note 3 comes out or an equivalent device boasting a larger screen size. I would like to see a 6 inch phone since I don't have infant hands like the rest of you.
cdmoore74 said:
Not worried until the Note 3 comes out or until HTC and Motorola make a phablet with a S-Pen like device. The S4 could be released tomorrow and I would still pick the Note 2 unless Samsung start putting S-Pens in all devices.
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This. After playing with the Note II for an extended period of time at Best Buy today, I truly believe it's a really different experience from regular smartphones, especially after using the S-Pen. That hover feature on the S-Pen is not only incredibly cool, but also super useful (for previews, information pop-ups, etc). And I can see myself taking notes with S-Note and using its Knowledge Search feature often.
Oh, and I was with my brother and his gf as I was showing this phone off to them, and I think I converted her from being an iPhone fanboy to an Android fanboy by the end of my Note II demonstration. :highfive:
I was at the mall today for my third look at the Note II. The Sprint and ATT stores both have them out. I have one on preorder from Verizon, but can't get over the size. Tried it in my pocket (again!) and fooled around with the S-pen apps and really do like this phone a lot. I've decided I want a very thin cover that will give me a better grip when I have it in one hand, and a stylus that is larger that I can keep in my shirt pocket. I was going back and forth with the NoteII, DNA, or wait until summer, but the s-pen is a great feature that is unique to the Note's.
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Oh, and I was with my brother and his gf as I was showing this phone off to them, and I think I converted her from being an iPhone fanboy to an Android fanboy by the end of my Note II demonstration. :highfive:
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Haha same. My dad got the iPhone 5 already, and I was demonstrating everything the s pen can do, and I saw the look of regret on his face. It's an amazing device, but the hardest decision for me was which color to get
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Get Note 2 or wait for Galaxy S4

Hey all, this question is driving me nuts. My birthday is in March and I can get the Note 2.
I love the Note 2 for its massive screen and stylus.
On the other hand I could wait a few more months and get the Galaxy S4 which will surely be one of the hottest phones of the year with great specs and I'll get it right away instead of buying a several month old phone.
Opinions?
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Rigg3L said:
Hey all, this question is driving me nuts. My birthday is in March and I can get the Note 2.
I love the Note 2 for its massive screen and stylus.
On the other hand I could wait a few more months and get the Galaxy S4 which will surely be one of the hottest phones of the year with great specs and I'll get it right away instead of buying a several month old phone.
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In all reality do you think it's specs will be much better then the note? It will simply be the current flavor of the month but in reality won't be that much improved.
If you like the note get it. If you're going to wait for the s4, then may as well wait for the note 3, but by that time the nexus 5 will be coming you so should wait for it and so on. My point is there will always be a new hot phone coming.
So if the phone you like is here already then get it or you will just keep waiting on the next big thing and never actually get any. I can say I've owned most the high end phones on Verizon and nothing can touch this note!
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kintwofan said:
In all reality do you think it's specs will be much better then the note? It will simply be the current flavor of the month but in reality won't be that much improved.
If you like the note get it. If you're going to wait for the s4, then may as well wait for the note 3, but by that time the nexus 5 will be coming you so should wait for it and so on. My point is there will always be a new hot phone coming.
So if the phone you like is here already then get it or you will just keep waiting on the next big thing and never actually get any. I can say I've owned most the high end phones on Verizon and nothing can touch this note!
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This. Technology moves too fast for you to make a decision like that. Buy what phone fits you, and don't regret it.
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Rigg3L said:
Hey all, this question is driving me nuts. My birthday is in March and I can get the Note 2.
I love the Note 2 for its massive screen and stylus.
On the other hand I could wait a few more months and get the Galaxy S4 which will surely be one of the hottest phones of the year with great specs and I'll get it right away instead of buying a several month old phone.
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The screen will be bigger on the Note 2 and the GS4 won't have an sPen. I'd say get the Note 2, unless you can do without those two awesome features. I personally can't and won't. My next phone will be the Note 3.
I may be in the minority, but it's rumored that on March 15th we'll know what the S4 will be. Seeing as how it's just a little over a month away, I would personally wait to see if it offers anything that the Note 2 doesn't before you spend $600 and/or get locked into a 2 year contract.
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Note 2 for the win. I dissed it until I used it. Now I can't do without it
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Note 2! The resale of the N2 should be pretty good down the road if something gets released that you cant live without.
Rigg3L said:
Hey all, this question is driving me nuts. My birthday is in March and I can get the Note 2.
I love the Note 2 for its massive screen and stylus.
On the other hand I could wait a few more months and get the Galaxy S4 which will surely be one of the hottest phones of the year with great specs and I'll get it right away instead of buying a several month old phone.
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There simply won't be enough advances in technology for the S4 to be worth the wait, not to mention you will have to pay the premium subsidized pricing if you go that route. Of course if you want a smaller screen, then the S4 would be the obvious choice. However, the specs along for the S4 don't guarantee a good user experience where the galaxy note 2 has already been established as providing a good user experience due to the stylus and customized UI that it comes on the device.
With phones, you won't ever be the king of the mountain for long before something better hits the market, so you might as well choose a device that best meets your needs. I was looking for a device that would give me decent battery life, but I didn't expect the note 2, to provide more than 3 days of battery life under light usage and 2 days under normal usage.
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You can ask this question all day, replacing note 2 with "x" and S4 with "y".
Make sense? Whatever feels right - get it!
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Thanks guys! Well I always wanted the biggest screen phone I could buy so it seems the Note 2 is a clear winner for me! Hows the battery life been on it with Verizons lte?
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Thanks guys! Well I always wanted the biggest screen phone I could buy so it seems the Note 2 is a clear winner for me! Hows the battery life been on it with Verizons lte?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34820057
Let You compare multiple people's
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If you wait for the next big thing you are always going to be waiting.
Changes so fast.
With the specs and rapidly growing development on the note ll I am quite happy with my purchase and feel my device is something that will make me happy for a couple of years. I usually steal all the upgrades and pass down my old phone to the wife and kids each year but that may change now. Na.....what am I saying? Daddy always gets the big piece of chicken. Hahaha!
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Wait for the N3?
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Wait for the N3?
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Wait for GS5??
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If you want a phone the size of the G3 but with the reception (or other feature of interest) of the note 2; I would wait and see what the G4 has to offer; however if you are happy with the note 2 form factor/feature set then I would just get the note 2. From my perspecitve the note 2 has two flaws (which might be fixed in a future phone):
a) The screen is vulnerable if dropped (the newer phones are suppose to be better in this arena though I'm not sure if they will still be as scratch resistant)
b) I would prefer a phone a bit narrower than the note 2 (length is less of an issue).
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As an FYI I do have a note 2 (which replaces the droid razr). I really only have two complaints (width which I mentioned) and i prefer the mail client (stock andriod) on the razr (and tablets) to the one on the note 2. I really wans't unhappy with the razr but i purchased it before the maxx was announced and it had rather poor battery life and after a year the battery life was just not acceptable any longer and the note was the only phone I found reasonable at this date (I would have considered the dna if it had a larger battery; and some of the applications I use such as xscope) don't really work well with the on screen buttons of the hd-razr).
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I still consider the stylus largely a gimick though over time that view might change; i have small hands but the weight is fine - and the phone is significantly more responsive than the razr. One amusing thing I learned when er removing the auto wifi notify is the note 2 has very fast internal sd; something the tf700 (asus) should pay attention to (for those in teh dark ft700 has a bad problem with lag due to a miserably slow internal sd).
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. From my perspecitve the note 2 has two flaws (which might be fixed in a future phone):
b) I would prefer a phone a bit narrower than the note 2 (length is less of an issue).
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I certainly wouldn't call the width a "flaw"
I hate phones that have long narrow screens, I want my screen as wide as possible.
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I certainly wouldn't call the width a "flaw"
I hate phones that have long narrow screens, I want my screen as wide as possible.
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Fxck Verizon period lol come to tmobile then u can start figuring out if u want the note 2 or s4 Verizon and there restrictions slow ass firmware updates **** customer service does not make up for lte coverage .. I wouldn't get any phone on Verizon period .. so in my opinion dont get either lol
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Fxck Verizon period lol come to tmobile then u can start figuring out if u want the note 2 or s4 Verizon and there restrictions slow ass firmware updates **** customer service does not make up for lte coverage .. I wouldn't get any phone on Verizon period .. so in my opinion dont get either lol
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Samsung Galaxy S4 - Will you be upgrading?

I think at this point, if you have a Note 1, you're off contract or at least upgrade eligible. I was wowed by the HTC One, and looking forward to the event last night for the S4, but I was looking for a more significant hardware change. Samsung seems to be more interested in adding more and more features, but none of them were "must haves" for me. I'll be going with the HTC One for my next phone, and will keep my Note for work.
If this is the S4, the Note 3 will likely just be a larger version, probably around 5.8 inches.
Ironically, Samsung seems to be following in Apple's footsteps - they've found success with a particular design, so they have no impetus to push it forward, while HTC is designing some pretty amazing things, partly because they've always done that, but mostly because they need to do so.
When I saw the S4, I immediately thought of Samsung's dig at the iPhone 4S in one ad - "If it looks exactly the same as the last model, how will people know I upgraded?"
Plus, with all of that software, I doubt the S4 will get Key Lime Pie in the same year it's released.
Here's hoping for a $99 Note 2 in the near future.
I'll be getting the s4, the s3 has a ton of dev support and I'm sure the s4 will have just as much.
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Honestly, no, while I love my Note, I don't like the look of the the S IV or Note 2. I don't like the button and I want something that looks like it's awesome. I've been eying the HTC One quite a bit and as the HTC Hero was my first Android device it seems only fair that I go with them. However I don't want to go down on screen size. I'm not greedy enough for Huweai's (sp?) 6.3 inch screen, but definitely no less than the OG Note's screen. However the final deciding factor for me is how the whole JB thing has paned out. If I'm spending premium $$$ then I want the best for my money's worth, and that means the latest and greatest software. I'm not a mindless consumer that doesn't demand the best bang for my buck. Not only do I demand it, I also put my money where my mouth is.
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Honestly, no, while I love my Note, I don't like the look of the the S IV or Note 2. I don't like the button and I want something that looks like it's awesome. I've been eying the HTC One quite a bit and as the HTC Hero was my first Android device it seems only fair that I go with them. However I don't want to go down on screen size. I'm not greedy enough for Huweai's (sp?) 6.3 inch screen, but definitely no less than the OG Note's screen. However the final deciding factor for me is how the whole JB thing has paned out. If I'm spending premium $$$ then I want the best for my money's worth, and that means the latest and greatest software. I'm not a mindless consumer that doesn't demand the best bang for my buck. Not only do I demand it, I also put my money where my mouth is.
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Same here...
In not thrilled on the look but im tired of the og note and im sure there will be a ton of Dev support on it like most galaxy phones. I think the ONE is cool looking but I need a phone with removable battery and SD slot. The ONE doesn't have that so that's a no.
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I'd have to agree with a couple of the posts above - the button doesn't excite me one bit. At the same time however, the Note isn't starving for power though. I know the Note 2 and S4 have much better hardware, but I just don't need it right now. We'll see what the Note 3 has in store for us, and then I'll go from there. For once though, I don't feel I *need* to upgrade.
I almost hate to say it, but I agree. This is the second time I've been burned by samsung (OG captivate owner) and I think I've learned my lesson here. The S4 does have some nice software features, but it didn't wow me as opposed to the S3 over the S2.
I think i'm waiting for the new Nexus phone or possibly the rumored Moto X phone. No replaceable battery or Micro SD is a deal breaker for me so I'm hoping at least one of the phones above support that though i'm not holding my breath on the nexus.
I love the speed of the JB roms, I just wish we had the drivers to have the roms stable. I gotta say that HTC did a great job with the One, if that thing had SD and removable battery, it would have been a grand slam.
MWC this year should be interesting.
Why don't you guys like the button? I don't mind it at all, to be honest. The super thin bezel is sweet too
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If Nexus came out with a larger than 5 inch screen I'd jump right on it. Until something like that happen I'm going to keep on watching who treats their customers right and when it's upgrade time that's who'll get my money. I'm in love with the stylus and the screen size of the Note, but customer loyalty is a big factor when it comes to spending my shekels. You treat me good and I'll spend good money.
As far as why I don't like the button, it just seems old school and takes away from the elegance I want for $200 + device. And as far as the unremovable battery and lack of sd card slot...I can deal with that because you can't even really move apps to the sd card any more. And my N7 is the same way and we get along marvelously. All in all it's a preference thing.
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Considering the Note 3 comes out in September with a 6.3" screen I'll just wait for that. Got the note 1 in August so I can upgrade my phone when it comes out.
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Considering the Note 3 comes out in September with a 6.3" screen I'll just wait for that. Got the note 1 in August so I can upgrade my phone when it comes out.
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This^
I don't see any reason to upgrade just to have the newest thing. (Think about it SERIOUSLY. The "S" phones are Samsungs fanboy phone really. This is the phone that the AVERAGE user buys just because it's "new"....mostly Iphone converts and people that just want to have the "newest thing" to show off) Honestly, when I saw the s4 I was thinking, "wow, nice Note2 with a faster CPU". I didn't look at EVERYTHING the s4 is offering (software and all) but if I were to upgrade now (I have 4 upgrades I can use anytime I wish), I'd just get the Note 2 and be done with it. After using the OG Note (and the Dell Streak before this phone), I just can't see going to a smaller screen. Like dvdivx said, the Note 3 will be here before we know it and the S4 will look like a kids toy compared to what that phone is going to bring. They can call the S4 the "flagship" all they want but if you have read anything about what the N3 "is going to have" and then look at the specs of the S4 you can see that this phone is nothing but a little brother to the Note3. To me, the S4 release changes a lot of the N3 "rumors" to FACT and because of that, I'm not interested at all in this phone. Not to mention that there will be as many people walking around with the S4 as there are IPhone users. "I have the S4! It's the newest thing"......yeah well, I stopped thinking like that when I walked away from Apple FOREVER.
I'll be holding on to at least 3 of my upgrades though because there are BIG things coming at the end of the year from everything I've been reading. This might just be the year that changes what a smartphone looks and feels like. ( I'm sure there are some of you that know what I'm talking about)
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This^
I don't see any reason to upgrade just to have the newest thing. (Think about it SERIOUSLY. The "S" phones are Samsungs fanboy phone really. This is the phone that the AVERAGE user buys just because it's "new"....mostly Iphone converts and people that just want to have the "newest thing" to show off) Honestly, when I saw the s4 I was thinking, "wow, nice Note2 with a faster CPU". I didn't look at EVERYTHING the s4 is offering (software and all) but if I were to upgrade now (I have 4 upgrades I can use anytime I wish), I'd just get the Note 2 and be done with it. After using the OG Note (and the Dell Streak before this phone), I just can't see going to a smaller screen. Like dvdivx said, the Note 3 will be here before we know it and the S4 will look like a kids toy compared to what that phone is going to bring. They can call the S4 the "flagship" all they want but if you have read anything about what the N3 "is going to have" and then look at the specs of the S4 you can see that this phone is nothing but a little brother to the Note3. To me, the S4 release changes a lot of the N3 "rumors" to FACT and because of that, I'm not interested at all in this phone. Not to mention that there will be as many people walking around with the S4 as there are IPhone users. "I have the S4! It's the newest thing"......yeah well, I stopped thinking like that when I walked away from Apple FOREVER.
I'll be holding on to at least 3 of my upgrades though because there are BIG things coming at the end of the year from everything I've been reading. This might just be the year that changes what a smartphone looks and feels like. ( I'm sure there are some of you that know what I'm talking about)
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I won't be getting the S4. I'm looking forward to the Note 3, hopefully 6"-6.3" screen and a bigger battery than the Note 2.
Ive had my note since launch day and I have 1 upgrade available now another another in November so I can't wait. I love my note 1 but I want some official JB and I kind of miss TW after playing with a coworkers note 2.
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The S4 just isn't bleeding edge. It's just got some upgraded components that all the other phones are getting. Not interested. It would have been an awesome phone a year ago. It's an S3+, but the lemmings that will buy it have no clue.
I'm not eligible for an upgrade until early 2014. I just purchased the s3 on eBay and I'm planning on parting ways with the note 1. Next time I do upgrade, I'll probably go for the s4 or even the note 2 since they will probably be much cheaper by then with a contract extension
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Why bother? The US version will probably not have the dual quad, just single quad.. So yes, more CPU than the current S3 but not a big deal. Same ram. Software I couldn't care less about.
Might as well save money on an S3, it's otherwise basically the same phone.
That said, nope. Maybe the Note 3 sometime, unless it's much bigger than it is today. I like my Note 1, but if it gets much bigger I'm not sure it's feasible.
Maybe we'll see
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The fact that only the international version will come with the exynos 5 octa core while we'll get the Qualcomm in the US is a disappointment for me, and will be the only reason that as of now I'll say no, not getting it.
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I will not get for the s4 either.
I definitely want to wait for the note 3 though. I can't get anything else now that I am used to the note. But, will the note 3 really get that big of a screen?
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I will not get for the s4 either.
I definitely want to wait for the note 3 though. I can't get anything else now that I am used to the note. But, will the note 3 really get that big of a screen?
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I myself want to get the note 3, but not so sure, if it will have a 6.3 inch, that's just to big to carry on the front pocket. That is .7 shy of carrying a 7 inch tablet in your pocket.
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Any Note 2 to S4 users?

Hi All,
I have a chance to trade locally with someone who picked up a VZW Black S4. I have the White Note 2 and he wants to go back to the Note 2. The nerd in me screams awesome as I'm always wanting to check out new phones but at the same time, why might he want to go back to the Note 2 from the S4...
If anyone has and uses both phones what are the pro's and con's? Any preference between the two (and yes, I realize this is the S4 forums so preference may be a bit biased).
My Note 2 is like new, has two batteries and two s-pens so he's offering a straight trade, phone for phone no cash exhanged.
Thoughts?
I love the Note 2, I read books, watch movies and tv shows on it, and music quality is amazing. Signal quality and download speeds are insane. Looking for day to day use comparisons for those that have had both phones and advice on what I can expect from the S4 if I proceed with this trade.
Preference, I do miss the bigger screen.. flash video is a little smoother (more forgiving is better put) on the Note 2 (4.1.2) but being able to one hand the device, the IR blaster and 1080p display is rly nice.
Do it, the value of the Note 2 is dropping
Then trade up to the Note 3
Thats what I am doing (did)
Yeah I had the iPhone 5, bought a Note 2. And then sold the iPhone and Note 2 and got the S4 and I still have my upgrade next month! Loving the S4 right now.
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I have the Note 2 and then bought the S4. I wouldn't get rid of either of them. they both have thier strong points.
The Note 2, all of the big scren stuff and the sPen,(which I still use, daily) as well as I have mine on a dual boot. so I get TW (Beans) and with a re boot running pacman (PA, AOKP, CM)
There is really no down side to the Note 2 other than it is about 9 months old... (Is that really a down side? the longer you have a phone the more options we have with the developers that come out with the new development options)
I have my eye on the note 3 when it comes out and I still would't get rid of the note 2.
With the S4, It is a great phone all of the awesome TW stuff and the blaster. The best thig is jacking any TV that you are near. Good stuff when your in the DR. Office and DR Phil is on, opps was on, I just jacked it and put on Sportscenter...HA!
if you like there are some really cool Original Android devs that are doing some cool stuff.
It still is really new and the development hasn't really been where it is with the Note 2, that is if you are into all of the new ROMs and bells and whistles...
We just ran into a snag until the new verizon OTA gets rooted, unlocked and opened up for the devs to get into it so those of us that like the TW ROMs.
I would not trade the Note 2 for the S4 , but that is just my .02
Right now the S4 is in a awkward stage with the Dev's. As mentioned earlier the latest OTA update locked the phone up tight. There is a huge bounty to re-root & unlock the bootloader yet no one has cracked it yet. If you're not into customizing your phone via root and custom roms then the S4 is a good choice. The screen detail alone makes the S4 very appealing. Get the S4; better equity and trade in value.
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i wish i never sold my note 2. perfect daily phone for me. the s4 gets warm/hot to me where the note 2 never did. both have pros and cons. i cant wait for note 3 and htc one. s4 will be gone if either one of those is decent
My wife switched and is really happy.
She loved the Note II but the size was getting to be an issue for her.
She found the S4 noticeably lighter in in hand which she preferred when using her phone for extended periods, and that the S4 fit her various pockets in her smaller purses better. Those were her two reasons. She loved the extra screen size on the Note II, but has been happier overall w/the S4.
Would have got the N2 but at the time it was 300 when the S4 was 200. I just couldn't pay more for an "inferior" device. If they were the same price IDK what I would be with now though.
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I still have both. However, I don't use the Note anymore. Nothing wrong with it, I'm just to busy playing with my S4. At first I did miss the S pen. It came in so handy at work. Running around and taking notes on the go, I saved thousands of trees Lol.
It does get warm. This differs with choice of kernel in my experience. While development isn't yet massive, it's not a ghost town either... As you can see. Personally, I'd make the switch... Unless the phone your looking at has the update??
Dual boot? I think it's time to take a gander in the Note 2 forums.
Dr. Cornelius asks you to calm down.
That Note 2 screen looks so pixilated to Mr after looking at this S4 screen resolution.
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I still have both. However, I don't use the Note anymore. Nothing wrong with it, I'm just to busy playing with my S4. At first I did miss the S pen. It came in so handy at work. Running around and taking notes on the go, I saved thousands of trees Lol.
It does get warm. This differs with choice of kernel in my experience. While development isn't yet massive, it's not a ghost town either... As you can see. Personally, I'd make the switch... Unless the phone your looking at has the update??
Dual boot? I think it's time to take a gander in the Note 2 forums.
Dr. Cornelius asks you to calm down.
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Your s4 or note gets warm?
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begin with galaxy S3,then note 2, and now S4, I cannot resist galaxy products!
I made the switch a few days ago.. gave my brother my note 2 and used his upgrade to get the s4. I definitely like some of the small features that the s4 has that my note 2 didn't (the smart video view in particular). I never really used the spen all that often so although I do miss it, it's nothing for me not to have it.
The main reason why I switched was because of the size on the note 2. I do love the screen size on the note 2(the only thing I truly miss), but the size of the phone it brought with it were getting old. I text a ton, and not being able to text on one hand without getting extremely pissed at the constant typos just got to be too much.
I haven't seen too much of a hit on my battery.. I could easily get through the work day and all evening with my note 2.. but I've yet to require a charge mid day on my s4.. and I'm using smart features which I didn't on the note 2. I'm definitely glad I made the switch.. something as little as being able to use cup holders to hold my phone is so nice.
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I personally didn't get a ton more out of my note 2 if you consider the screen on time.
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I had the note 2 since launch up until about a month ago when I got the s4. I still have the note. I just moved it over to a secondary line. I use both daily for different things. The note 2 is still an awesome device.... The s4 is my daily driver.... Wow. I'm sure I'm not being helpful at all. If u can look past the IR blaster and the resolution. Get the note 2. My kids are always losing the remote so the s4 comes in handy. The rest of the features I feel are just gimmicks. Nothing really..... Extravagant
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The Note 4 is here. Worth the upgrade, or hang on to the N3 another year?

The Note 4... Guess we should talk about it!? I like what I see from it. An upgrade from the Note 3 for sure, albeit not a major overhaul. Personally I will probably hold off until the Note 5, but I do hope to see some of the new software changes make their way over to the N3. So what do you guys think? Who's jumping ship?!
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Same herr I would hold off until the note 5. But I would like to see some updates made to the n3 for sure
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I do hope that the N3 gets the updates. If not from a regular update, then through a rooted version of the Note 4 software made available to the N3. I am currently using Jasmin, but I keep having lots of issues and would love an N3 version of this software update.
I would stick to my note 3. I really don't see any reason to go to note 4... not worth it
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Work provides a N3 but I will wait to get the next one anyway, I have an S5 laying on my desk that I don't use. If I were to upgrade now I would get the Note Edge though not the 4
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/03/samsung-galaxy-note-edge-hands-on/
I'm holding off until I know N4 can be rooted.
Never intended to go with Note 4; enjoying my Note 3 into 2015.
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Work provides a N3 but I will wait to get the next one anyway, I have an S5 laying on my desk that I don't use. If I were to upgrade now I would get the Note Edge though not the 4
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/03/samsung-galaxy-note-edge-hands-on/
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This right here....
I have the Note 3 now and am happy with where I am at now. I have hotspot as well as root access and it is incredibly stable. If I am going to upgrade, I am going with the Note Edge.
I'll wait and see what happens with the bootloader 1st. Whoever has an unlocked bootloader will get me there. Lol
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I'll wait and see what happens with the bootloader 1st. Whoever has an unlocked bootloader will get me there. Lol
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This exactly. I sold my note 3 waiting for a phone with an unlocked bootloader and developer support like the galaxy nexus but I think i'm living in a fantasy world.
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The Note 4... Guess we should talk about it!? I like what I see from it. An upgrade from the Note 3 for sure, albeit not a major overhaul. Personally I will probably hold off until the Note 5, but I do hope to see some of the new software changes make their way over to the N3. So what do you guys think? Who's jumping ship?!
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Got the Note 3 first day it was out based on Samsung reputation. BIG mistake. Love the features but the radio sucks. I'll wait to see if the radio/antennae problems have been fixed and then I won't consider it until it is rooted.
I'll wait till the N5 drops. Hopefully by then, it wont be about who can get the next model out and focus on more important things. I would like to see some improvement on the modem and CPU. I won't go and settle for the N4 that has basically all of the N3 qualities except for a higher megapixel and the heart monitor added. My wife's S5 has that, and we don't even use it. So that feature is just more bells and whistles to me. I need more RAM, and better quality radio personally.
Sticking with my Note 3. I am on VZW. So that thing will be locked down for a while. That I am assuming based on the current situation with the Note 3 bootloader. Also, they went back to USB 3.0. That also kills it for me. I am all 3.0. Especially since I am home one minuet and go eat the next. And I fill my memory fas. So I need to unload it fast. I will say this but with a bit of dissatisfaction. They did not leave us all out I the water like others. They kept the mSD slot. But allowing for only 64Gigs!? Oh well, I will wit for maybe the next gen, and most likely only if it gets rooted. But most definitely if the bootloader gets unlocked. Though not holding breath on that. LOl!
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Note edge look like a better buy than note 4
Yeah, it seems a bit odd to have abandoned the USB 3.0... I have had no complaints about the connector on the N3. Seems like many people are going to skip the Note 4. Maybe they get a bunch of Note 2 users to upgrade, as many of them skipped the Note 3 for the same reasons. Not really a knock on the phone itself, and kind of nice that Samsung sticks to what works and doesn't make you feel like you have to get a new phone every year.
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They needed the extra space used up by the USB 3 port for other reasons?
As long as the N4 can be rooted I expect SS will be made to work on it. Likely the same for the Edge.
If you already had it implemented why get rid of it. I don't have anything that runs 3.0 but that wider connection makes it a lot more sturdy. I've had more than one phone where the standard micro usb plug gets really loose and inconsistent (and I never use my phone when charging). The locked bootloader is the biggest deal breaker. If I had known the version note 3 bootloader would never have been unlocked I probably would have gone with a different phone but replaceable battery and as card are almost just as important
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The Note 4... Guess we should talk about it!? I like what I see from it. An upgrade from the Note 3 for sure, albeit not a major overhaul. Personally I will probably hold off until the Note 5, but I do hope to see some of the new software changes make their way over to the N3. So what do you guys think? Who's jumping ship?!
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I guess I have always wondered why people must have the latest "thing"....I wonder if these same people get a new car every year? How about a new TV? New Laptop? New refrigerator?
Why?
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Put my vote down for the Edge as well. I like many of the Note's features and love the size, but agree that there isn't enough difference between the 3 and 4 except maybe a metal backbone.
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The Note 4... Guess we should talk about it!? I like what I see from it. An upgrade from the Note 3 for sure, albeit not a major overhaul. Personally I will probably hold off until the Note 5, but I do hope to see some of the new software changes make their way over to the N3. So what do you guys think? Who's jumping ship?!
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For what it's worth, I think the camera is going to be the biggest seller for me. While I love my Note 3, if I've forgotten to turn Smart Stabilization off, I often miss photo opportunities with my kids or dogs. I'll take a picture, and then the 1 or 2 seconds it sits and process results in blurry shots or missed shots. I think I may jump to N4/Edge and sit with it for a few years as long as the OIS is as good in real life as they portrayed it today. The Note series has been great minus their sluggish cameras.

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