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the price is high and the temptation to buy an ipad2 honestly is present (despite I love droid) I would like to see a flyer vs ipad2 on the tube, in the meanwhile the most important factor for me to make adiscrimination between the two(I would always use my hd2 of course) is the weight..I would like to know by the users if you evaluate him really portable or your little bag burden on your shoulders.
Definitely. If you're concerned with weight and portability, Flyer is the choice. Apart from the screen (scratches, see other thread ) it is solid and lightweight compared to the iPad 1 (which is a few gram heavier than the new one). With the iPad I always needed to decide whether to take it with me or not, even though it is considerably lighter than a notebook or a netbook, but taking the Flyer with you is a no-brainer.
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I really urge to buy something, because at the moment my hd2 has the touch screen that does not work anymore( ) and I cannot wait 4 weeks to repair( maybe I ll find some shop here in adam without assistance) well the price is definetely high, especially considering all the models that are coming out, also if HTC remains for me the best android choice. Ill think thank you
I can definitely attest to forgetting its in my pocket. I put it in my back pocket the day after I bought it and i sat on it and freaked out because i thought i damaged the screen but it was OK.
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I can definitely attest to forgetting its in my pocket. I put it in my back pocket the day after I bought it and i sat on it and freaked out because i thought i damaged the screen but it was OK.
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Yes, this device fits in the back pocket of jeans or khakis without a problem. As far as I know, the iPad 2 can't do that trick. I like keeping my devices naked with just a thin film of invisibleshield and screen protector.
If you don't need the pen integration, then by all means there are less expensive 7" models out there. If you're looking for a "boardroom" device, the pen integration is a great, but the HTC won't have as much clout as an iPad.
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I can definitely attest to forgetting its in my pocket. I put it in my back pocket the day after I bought it and i sat on it and freaked out because i thought i damaged the screen but it was OK.
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dude!!! what size is your pocket???? mine doesn't go in any of them....really ! you might have a rapper blue jeans ! (it was a joke! don't get angry ! )
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dude!!! what size is your pocket???? mine doesn't go in any of them....really ! you might have a rapper blue jeans ! (it was a joke! don't get angry ! )
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We wear potato sacks over here.
I live in a nudest colony so the only place I carry it is in between my buttcrack :/
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Yes, this device fits in the back pocket of jeans or khakis without a problem. As far as I know, the iPad 2 can't do that trick. I like keeping my devices naked with just a thin film of invisibleshield and screen protector.
If you don't need the pen integration, then by all means there are less expensive 7" models out there. If you're looking for a "boardroom" device, the pen integration is a great, but the HTC won't have as much clout as an iPad.
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I really do not need a pen integration if there are not dictionaries inbuilted, since taking notes and recognize them in digital format is something will be probably possible without frustration in 5 years at least, but I feel loyal to htc and I prefer android. But since I have already my incredible hd2 and an outsatanding sony reader, maybe I will choiche archos 7 internet if I ll found a way to connect with my 3G hda2 and swype will go, but do you think really that archos 7 screen is brighter, and touch responsive as htc flyer? otherwise which other 7 inches alternatives you have in mind? I need battery, screen readable outdoor, great touch experience, complete compatibility with droid(without swype I am lost)
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I really do not need a pen integration if there are not dictionaries inbuilted, since taking notes and recognize them in digital format is something will be probably possible without frustration in 5 years at least, but I feel loyal to htc and I prefer android. But since I have already my incredible hd2 and an outsatanding sony reader, maybe I will choiche archos 7 internet if I ll found a way to connect with my 3G hda2 and swype will go, but do you think really that archos 7 screen is brighter, and touch responsive as htc flyer? otherwise which other 7 inches alternatives you have in mind? I need battery, screen readable outdoor, great touch experience, complete compatibility with droid(without swype I am lost)
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The HTC screen is nice. Others have posted that It's fine outdoors. HTC has a few feature called Trace which is very similar to Swype.
The pen integration is only available in certain apps. It's not like the pdas where your handwriting is recognized into letters. What you write on the screen is what you get. More like pen and paper.
I don't think the archos has a capacitive screen. It should connect to your WiFi hotspot with no issue. Its a lot less expensive than the Flyer. Again if pen integration is not necessary the Archos would be fine.
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I really do not need a pen integration if there are not dictionaries inbuilted, since taking notes and recognize them in digital format is something will be probably possible without frustration in 5 years at least, but I feel loyal to htc and I prefer android. But since I have already my incredible hd2 and an outsatanding sony reader, maybe I will choiche archos 7 internet if I ll found a way to connect with my 3G hda2 and swype will go, but do you think really that archos 7 screen is brighter, and touch responsive as htc flyer? otherwise which other 7 inches alternatives you have in mind? I need battery, screen readable outdoor, great touch experience, complete compatibility with droid(without swype I am lost)
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I've never used the archos 7 but the archos 5 was a fantastic media player. I'm referring to the android version. I seriously doubt the screen on the archos 7 is brighter than the flyer. I have yet to take this thing off minimum brightness. It is INSANELY bright!!! Its hard to even give and example. If i had a video camera I would show you a comparison between the Thunderbolt, which has a great screen, and the flyer. It really is crazy!
On the compatiblity with swype i'm not sure but I would mention that swyping on a larger screen has to be more time consuming than using thumb keyboard which gives you tablet keyboard options. That is a personal preference though.
The last part is the battery. I've used quite a few android devices that include the galaxy tab,motorola droid, droid incredible, thunderbolt, and galaxy s (fascinate), and i would say the battery is a little bit better than the galaxy tab and that battery life was great!!! I used the Flyer pretty much all day yesterday at work, I'm an engineer, and I was drawing circuits all day and it was tethered to my thunderbolt all day and when I got home i was still at 40%. So battery life is great!!
I hope that helps.
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The HTC screen is nice. Others have posted that It's fine outdoors. HTC has a few feature called Trace which is very similar to Swype.
The pen integration is only available in certain apps. It's not like the pdas where your handwriting is recognized into letters. What you write on the screen is what you get. More like pen and paper.
I don't think the archos has a capacitive screen. It should connect to your WiFi hotspot with no issue. Its a lot less expensive than the Flyer. Again if pen integration is not necessary the Archos would be fine.
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well I have to think and benchmark, thank you
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dude!!! what size is your pocket???? mine doesn't go in any of them....really ! you might have a rapper blue jeans ! (it was a joke! don't get angry ! )
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Watch this dude slip the Flyer in his back jean pocket.
http://gigaom.com/mobile/video-first-look-at-the-htc-flyer-android-tablet/
This is merely a curiosity thread. I have pretty much no interest in the dock aside from the extra battery life. I figure if I need a keyboard I could use a BT one or just use my laptop etc. Is it really a draw for people looking to replace a netbook with a tablet?
I feel the same way like u about the dock....don't need it...
No interest in the dock from me.
I like the form factor, weight, build quality, performance, connectivity, and asus updates.
May want a dock later, but has no influence in my desire to own the prime right now.
If I'm going to sit down to do a bunch of e-mails or work on a document of some sort, the dock is going to come in very handy.
I had the dock for the original transformer. The typing was so laggy that it wasn't worth it.
If you need to type, use a laptop/pc. Plus, it didn't have spell or grammar check. (polaris office)
I think the docking experience is overrated and over-hyped. The dock was also a bit bulky so there was no sense in carrying it around. All it did was collect dust.
Tablet was great though.
I use my Transformer for quite a few things, and one of them is taking notes during meetings and for writing rough drafts. I often do the latter late at night and in bed, and so the ability to pop the tablet on the dock and use the combo without worrying about grabbing a laptop tray of some kind is nice. An important aspect of the TF+dock is that it generates no heat, so no worry about covering vents or burning a hole in one's nether regions. I also know of no Bluetooth keyboards or "docks" that can be propped on a lap and be sturdy enough to comfortably type on.
It's also faster for my ad hoc ramblings--no need to grab the notebook, grab a tray, arrange them on my lap, wait for the notebook to boot up, open the right app, etc. Just grab the dock, pop my tablet in it, hit the new note button on the Evernote widget, and start typing. It's faster and much more convenient.
Also, for taking notes in all-day meetings, nothing beats the combo. I've often been at seminars and meetings where folks were fighting for available power sources. Not me--my TF+dock easily lasts an entire day, with an evening to spare. The Prime+dock will only be better.
Nope, for me, the dock is the saving grace. I'd be less likely to buy a tablet without it, or rather I'd save some cash and get a Kindle Fire or Nook Tablet. The only other uses that don't involve heavier writing is ebook reading, and either of those would be fine for the purpose.
It's the sole reason for me focusing on a Transformer. The reason I want the Prime instead of the original is simply better specs. If someone other than Asus made one with a similar keyboard dock, I'd probably dump waiting on the Prime.
my reason is the typing, but never had the first transformer. and the usb port is a big reason for me
the dock came in quite handy for my on my tf101, so i'm 100% going to get the dock for the prime, but i'm going to wait until i get a deal on it, as it's not crucial, but just handy and useful to have.
plus, the wow factor when you break your netbook in half and use the screen around people is too good to pass up
Well since I'm a student it can be pretty useful at school, however the problem in Holland and Europa I suppose is that we get 2 versions: 32GB with dock (€599) and the 64GB without dock (€599). Since I don't need the extra 32GB (64GB) I will buy the 32GB with dock, and hope I get used to it..
If I can use a gamepad via Bluetooth, I'll have no reason to get the dock.
I have the transformer and the dock and for me it's a pretty big deal.
For me it's not just a keyboard and a battery. It s the ultimate accessory. Look at how many different accessories there is for the other tablets. Screen protector, bt keyboard, extra battery, extra port converters, docking station, cover, protection case, sd reader... You can't have all those with you all the time.
But the keyboard dock is everything in one sleek package you can carry out with your transformer. And that the beauty of it
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I bought it with my pre-ordered Prime. It's always nice to have more inputs than just touch. Also, if nothing else, it's the best possible tablet stand you can have, not to mention it prolongs the battery life/charges the tablet.
I plan on using this a ton when I am working out, putting it right in front of my treadmill (have a stand that is perfect height) so being able to dock it in and not having to prop it up is key for me.
I'm not interested in the dock either but I will buy one if not in the next like 6 months definitely at blackfriday if they have a sale
For me it is very important. I am using this as a laptop replacement. The few times I have to do work out of the office it is some light word, excel, or email stuff. the keyboard is going to come in really handy.
I got my Prime yesterday and there are no docks available and it's driving me crazy. It is the only reason i didn't go with another brand tablet. I want it to act as a stand on my lap, as a screen cover while in my bag and an extra battery when i'm out and about. Without the dock i don't want the tablet. I hope I can find one soon....
In my country atm you can only get either the 32gb + dock or 64gb version. The 32gb is not sold separately. So i'm getting the dock anyway and i have to say its the reason i'm getting this Tablet. It just adds so much to the Tablet. Full USB port, SDcard, BatteryLife. These are all great things. And those are just the bonus. Writing stuff is something i do all the time when using computers. URLs, comments, emails, notes and other text etcetc. So it improves one of the major activities for which i use a device like that. I think its a no-brainer.
Its about the same thing with gaming on touch screen devices for me. It works with touch screen most of the time and some games are awesome with touch. But lets be honest many games just totally suck. So its just great to have the ability to plug in a Gamepad and have real gaming controls (especially emulators). Another plus for the dock and its usb port...
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In my country atm you can only get either the 32gb + dock or 64gb version. The 32gb is not sold separately. So i'm getting the dock anyway and i have to say its the reason i'm getting this Tablet. It just adds so much to the Tablet. Full USB port, SDcard, BatteryLife. These are all great things. And those are just the bonus. Writing stuff is something i do all the time when using computers. URLs, comments, emails, notes and other text etcetc. So it improves one of the major activities for which i use a device like that. I think its a no-brainer.
Its about the same thing with gaming on touch screen devices for me. It works with touch screen most of the time and some games are awesome with touch. But lets be honest many games just totally suck. So its just great to have the ability to plug in a Gamepad and have real gaming controls. Another plus for the dock and its usb port...
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Agree with this, same in Holland with the 32GB + dock or 64GB without dock.
One of the primary selling points for the Prime was the dock so I'd say it's very important thus a must buy for me. BUT since I just picked one up and no dock was available at Gamestop, I can deal with waiting for the dock. Just hoping that it's not too long a wait.
It's really the main reason I'm getting it. It adds a ton of functionality for me and I doubt I would buy a tablet at all if it wasn't for it.
That is the question. How many of you are just purchasing the tablet and why?
The added benefits of the dock are self explanatory but are they worth the additional 150 dollars to you?
I wonder if working professionals would find the dock as more of a necessity? I may eventually purchase the dock due to the fact that it would work very well in my current job functions.
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I'm a student and the dock and tablet combo is a must-have for me. had the xoom, but taking lecture notes on a touchscreen is too difficult. Used the og transformer w/dock all last year, and it was awesome combo. used as just a tab when couch surfing, and used as netbook when at school.
The tablet + dock combo works way better than a laptop for me for a couple reasons, my laptop is heavier, and battery life sucks, so i constantly have to find an outlet at the library which are always taken up.
PS: In the future please put any questions in the Q + A thread. i noticed u used the xda app, and like me when in favs u never noticed the QA section was made. U have to log in/out and redo the favs to get it to show.
I've pretty much decided that if it weren't for the dock, I'd probably get an ultrabook and a Kindle Fire. The things I'm using a tablet for would be well enough served by a smaller/cheaper tablet, while I need something light with good battery life and physical keyboard for writing. The Prime+dock works well for that, but an ultrabook would work well enough (albeit so for for about $1100).
Note that the writing I'm talking about is draft copy, so I tend to just put words into Evernote and then copy/paste to Word on the desktop for formatting/finishing work. If I needed something to produce finished work with, the Prime+dock wouldn't work.
Actually, The price is just perfect...
think of it this way:
1- If you wanna buy an external battery pack it will cost you around 40-50 $
2- Bluetooth keyboard 30-50 $ minimum
3-USB dongle for USB host 15$ (still not available btw)
4- a stand for the tablet 5-10$
5-adding to that the SD Card slot
All in all you will end up paying around 120$ for much worse quality & convenience for the same functionality. It just makes the prime so much better.
I just want the tab, already have a laptop complete with keyboard. A thought comes to mind, why not a sliding kb like the phones which can be slipped on/off, less footprint. If some smart hacker can figure out how to exploit the theremin effect, a touchless keyboard with aural feedback come become reality. We need new technologies and innovation folks, push the envelope!
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I'm a student and the dock and tablet combo is a must-have for me. had the xoom, but taking lecture notes on a touchscreen is too difficult. Used the og transformer w/dock all last year, and it was awesome combo. used as just a tab when couch surfing, and used as netbook when at school.
The tablet + dock combo works way better than a laptop for me for a couple reasons, my laptop is heavier, and battery life sucks, so i constantly have to find an outlet at the library which are always taken up.
PS: In the future please put any questions in the Q + A thread. i noticed u used the xda app, and like me when in favs u never noticed the QA section was made. U have to log in/out and redo the favs to get it to show.
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Ohh yeah, thanks! I didn't see that forum. Just re added to faves and im good to go!
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Actually, The price is just perfect...
think of it this way:
1- If you wanna buy an external battery pack it will cost you around 40-50 $
2- Bluetooth keyboard 30-50 $ minimum
3-USB dongle for USB host 15$ (still not available btw)
4- a stand for the tablet 5-10$
5-adding to that the SD Card slot
All in all you will end up paying around 120$ for much worse quality & convenience for the same functionality. It just makes the prime so much better.
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Great points!
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I just want the tab, already have a laptop complete with keyboard. A thought comes to mind, why not a sliding kb like the phones which can be slipped on/off, less footprint. If some smart hacker can figure out how to exploit the theremin effect, a touchless keyboard with aural feedback come become reality. We need new technologies and innovation folks, push the envelope!
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asus makes a sliding keyboard version of the OG transformer, i'd guess it's only a matter of time so long as that model did well in sales.
personally i found it to be kind of awkward when i played with it at the store, the dock at this size makes more sense to me and has the added functionality of ports and battery.
The only reason I'm getting a Prime is damage to my TF101.
The only reason I got the TF101 was the dock.
I use it like a netbook was originally intended to be (and like modern tablets excell at), not like a laptop or desktop.
I like the battery gain.
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For me, it was the only reason I bought the prime.
Keyboard+Battery+USB+Full size SD, Worth the $150 for me.
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For me, it was the only reason I bought the prime.
Keyboard+Battery+USB+Full size SD, Worth the $150 for me.
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Same here. I wouldn't buy a tablet that didn't have this functionality
I cant justify the cost of the dock. I got the tp mostly as a textbook reader and something to carry around the hospital where i work. Screen quality + thinness + good battery was most important for me.
Ironically I purchased a tablet so that I get less distracted and limit my typing speed so that I am forced to read. I have a 3.2lb ultraportable full voltage i5 Toshiba R835 laptop already with 8 hour battery, but I get too distracted because its just so fast and easy to use. I browse around aimlessly, so i have been using tablets to take away the bad habit. I cant switch between pdf book to webbrowser with 5+ tabs as easily and I cant chat too quickly so in the end I get smarter from these limitations.
I originally bought the TFP because of the dock to ween myself off of laptops.Ive had it almost three weeks now and am still trying to get hold of a KB...Guess what??..not sure I want one now..I love my Prime and have been very comfortable bed/couch/patio surfing etc..I am interested in gaming with a controller but not sure if thats worth the $150 now..
Dock is the only reason I'm buying Prime. I would not buy a tablet with weak WiFi, non-existent GPS and just 1GB RAM otherwise. I'm using it to replace my netbook that I mainly use for movies, internet browsing and casual note-taking. Battery life is also a huge factor to me in comparison to my current netbook.
I picked up the Prime mainly due to battery and dock. I needed something cover conventions such as E3 and CES without having to worry about plugging it in halfway through they day.. It's the reason I had the original one as well.
I"m debating on ordering one now too. But I mostly surf and game but it would be nice to be able to type faster with a dock when I'm on the forums. What I'm wondering if once docked will I be able to play games just as well or would it just get in the way?
I got the Prime because I could get a Dock for it. I like the Extra Battery and the USB port that the Dock offers
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Pulled the trigger then cancelled. Is it true that's it'll be too top heavy with the tablet docked? I usually use the tab on my lap or sitting on my abdominal area when laying down. There are times its on my bed when I'm sitting up so for the most part the screen will be tilted back a little. I think the dock will end up just getting in the way or annoying me since the entire thing will fall on its back a lot.
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110% worth it!!!
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Is it true that's it'll be too top heavy with the tablet docked?
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It' really isn't top-heavy to the point where it's impractical or falling over all the time. I spend a majority of my work day with it on my desk opened up in laptop form and the screen tilted back. There's enough weight in the dock to hold it down, and it still takes quite a bit of force to push it to make it fall over.
it makes the tablet 3" thick!
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it makes the tablet 3" thick!
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Id revise this to Don't get it if its your ONLY case. I actualy like using mine with Evernote for coursework. When I dont need the keyboad, I use another case.
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it makes the tablet 3" thick!
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The keyboard case is about the only way I carry mine. I have a nice laptop that sees almost no use now. Great keyboard btw.
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Thoughts on Keyboard Folio
The main problem for Android for me has been typing. I've spent hours getting used to swipe technology because I hate softkey keyboards, then came along this little keyboard folio.
At first I regretted buying it. I spent $90+ to get it, and as soon as it showed up I was unhappy. But then I started using it. The way that the tablet itself is not connected to the keyboard is a little bit awkward. You only can place the tablet at 3 viewing angles which vary by only a few degrees, rendering them almost useless. The folio case also takes up the full size USB slot, which was one of the best features of it imo. Also, the way it slides in and out of the slot does not seem like it would stand up against a lot of use.
That being said, getting this case literally redefined how I use my device. UX is now no longer a problem at all. The keys are individual, and spaced at a perfect distance so typing on it comes very naturally. Instead of a tablet, it seems like I have an android netbook now. I am a web designer/developer by trade. Using the tablet by itself is perfect for designing, the adobe touch apps are great, however I was never able to code due to the lack of a keyboard. This folio has changed that.
I recognize that half of my excitement over the folio is just the fact that I am using a keyboard with an android device, and that can be achieved simply by plugging in a regular USB keyboard into it, however after a little use, I rarely take the tablet out of the folio unless I am designing.
I like the keyboard. But I have in my bag and use it when I need heavy typing. Very impressed with the quality of it, there is some issues however, if you don't use the native english version. Then you'r at times stuck, with ENG layout, which can be rather annoying.
I find mine indespensible. If I'm not mistaken, it's the fastest for coding in Android from powerup to first keystroke, even on pokey stock ROM. The speed of getting hooked up with BT isn't something I like. The battery drain is a hassle for me, too. Granted, I use it mostly for typing rather useless stuff like this, but I really like it. It's a one-of-a-kind at the moment.
Yes, it's about 1.25 inches (33mm) thick, not counting the magnetic flap closure. The TPT in my Sikai case is 15/16 of an inch (23mm), but it doesn't seem like it thanks to its design. They could have worked a little harder on either the aesthetic or the actual depth. It's definitely not slick looking, but its a great workhorse. For criminy, it's Lenovo. What do you expect?
I think it's a transitional gadget, perhaps ahead of its time. They will get thinner. We will be jealous. We'll get the fourth gen and be smug for a month or two. But for now, we have the only one.
I just got my tablet yesterday, but so far I really like the keyboard folio. I do a lot of posting on various forums as well as document editing for clients. My only complaint with the folio is with the trackpoint. I was hoping it would be a traditional trackpoint. I find myself having to get used to rubbing my finger over the trackpoint instead of just pushing it in the direction I want the mouse to go. However as I use it more and more, I will get used to it.
In the realm of what I really want is a backlit keyboard. I would prefer if it was kind of like the Asus keyboard dock in that it offered additional battery life when in use. That beings said this is a rev 1 product and I am sure in the future things will improve. As it stands now I am about 90% satisfied with it the way it is.
Regarding the tablet in general I wasn't too sure about moving to a 10' device over my Nook tablet, but last night I read a book on it just fine when it was out of the folio, and difference in weight didn't bother me one bit. I love this thing.
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I also bought the keyboard folio and it makes the TPT heavier and thicker. It would only fit(snug) on my 11 inch sleeve case.
I like to use the keyboard folio when I am replying to emails, but it drains the TPT battery faster so I always have it plugged in to a power source.
And the magnets are very strong (compass apks will be useless)
Function keys
Has anyone found a solution to using the Fx keys? (F1-F12) I need them to use some work apps in Citrix. Besides that this keyboard is awesome.
Great for travel
I use mine quite a bit for travel when I don't want to bring a laptop and a tablet. This gives me just enough laptop functionality on the go and tablet when I need it.
Bummer, I wish I'd seen this thread before I ordered my keyboard today. It was on sale on the Australian Lenovo site for AUD$60, reduced from $90 and freight was free. I have a 10" netbook which I have just upgraded with a Vertex SSD but I prefer not to cart it about everywhere with me as it needs to go in my motorcycle backpack. It seems like they will be about the same size in the end. Sigh..
I can't really complain though, I picked up the 16Gb ThinkPad on a 1 hour sale for AUD$249 so in the end it's a pretty cheap solution for an iPad killing android tab, especially now I've upgraded it to ICS which I much prefer over Honeycomb.
All I'm waiting now is for a rooting solution for ICS on this pad, that will be brilliant.
If anyone has one of these they want to sell, i'll take it for a good price.
Better than it just lying around ya?
I received mine. It's not too bad and protects my tab in my backpack.
I don't use it at home unless I am using a citrix client in a window where I am unable to use the native ICS keyboard.
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I use mine quite a bit for travel when I don't want to bring a laptop and a tablet. This gives me just enough laptop functionality on the go and tablet when I need it.
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Works great when you want to leave the laptop at home.
We know, we know. Better wifi/gps. But what else?
On my list would be:
Battery/energy performance improvements - When I watched the tegra 3 videos for months before it came out I expected a steep increase in battery life performance over my tf101. Although the processor is faster - the battery life is about the same as my tf101, if not slightly worse. 28nm tegra 4 SoC's may improve this - but when I say improvements I want real improvements, not just what apple did with the ipad 3, improve the tablet but not the battery, just put a bigger battery in instead.
GPU improvements over display improvements - This is sort of related to the first improvement. I still fail to see the need for a 1080p+ screen on such a small device. It's a battery killer and 720p is sufficient, maybe a little more would be nice, but what's more important is the gpu. I see the need for a faster gpu, gaming is still in the ps2 / xbox phase - we need to jump up to current day graphics. I can live happily with a 720p display with more battery life and better graphics capabilities.
Less bezel. Self explanatory.
Ability to add folder shortcuts to the homescreen in the stock file manager. This is an essential feature.
More RAM. Even the crappiest netbooks on the market are upgradeable to 4gb, a little more wouldn't hurt.
USB on tablet. An edge the tfp has over the ipad is memory expansion. There is cloud software available - but weening mobile users off of usb isn't going to happen any time soon.
And most importantly...
Production. Asus won't let themselves succeed, they always second guess their products and then on release they are impossible to obtain. Preorders on both the tf101 and prime were backed up for weeks if not months. Asus, manufacturer more than enough to meet the demands of consumers because it's embarrassing when apple can move 3m ipads in 3 days but you can't make a hundred thousand in 3 months. If you can't meet demand - your sales won't increase.
I'm hoping next generation of Asus tablets after infinity pad will have Tegra4 in it. that will be even greater battery life and a dramatic boost in CPU and GPU performance. ill be holding on to my prime till then. nothing I've seen out from the competition makes me want to get rid of the Prime or seem more powerful than it. but honestly I get great battery life on my prime considering how much I use it and the kind of games and emulators I'm running on it. I easily get 10hrs. + battery life. Some may think this battery life not good enough but its the best Android has right now. Prime has the longest lasting battery of any tablet out now. according to Asus own specs, prime will still have better battery life than the Infinity pad or the new 300. the 300 actually has the shortest battery life, I believe. I could be wrong. but I know prime has the longest lasting battery life of all Asus tablets out now or coming out! that's been announced
Quality test the mess out of their next device, if any problem is spotted via web browsing, opening apps, connecting it to a larger TV monitor. Then they need to hold off until releasing it until they get it resolved.
The Transformer Prime should have shipped with all issues ironed out. So the consumer don't have to deal with these issues. Apple does this for it's iphone and iPad, ASUS should have done this or the Transformer Prime.
Default file manager is not perfect. Would love to see improvements aka incorporate what ES and Astro have been doing for a long time.
Better Inputs. The microSD card sticking out is stupid. Just make it more recessed. Same for the Audio jack, only half of it is in, the rest is exposed. Some times I drop audio in one ear, not sure, but I bet its due to this.
Better default features for lockscreen.
Speaker placement, maybe we need two speakers? The location is not great.
Keyboard keys on dock feel cheap. they are light, but when the battery already weighs what it weighs, just give me nicer keys.
WTF. How could ASUS let those chargers out of the factory. If they are plugged in one way, and you hold your tablet, it gives you a fuzzy jolt!
The tilting mechanism of the tablet on the dock kinda makes the tablet fall backwards when open. all the weight of the device is right at the back... it falls backwards all the time for me.
The build quality of the dock. If you pick it up from the side where the tablet docks, the underside metal bows & will make a clicking sound for me. The four rubber circles on the bottom of the dock aren't even! If i set my docked tablet on the table, it will still slide around cuz only 2 rubbers are on the counter.
I would always be happier with more RAM
I would like a better ASUS manager, which CRASHES all the time.
The screen bulging is annoying.
Its bad, the list can go on and on.
demandarin said:
I'm hoping next generation of Asus tablets after infinity pad will have Tegra4 in it. that will be even greater battery life and a dramatic boost in CPU and GPU performance. ill be holding on to my prime till then. nothing I've seen out from the competition makes me want to get rid of the Prime or seem more powerful than it. but honestly I get great battery life on my prime considering how much I use it and the kind of games and emulators I'm running on it. I easily get 10hrs. + battery life. Some may think this battery life not good enough but its the best Android has right now. Prime has the longest lasting battery of any tablet out now. according to Asus own specs, prime will still have better battery life than the Infinity pad or the new 300. the 300 actually has the shortest battery life, I believe. I could be wrong. but I know prime has the longest lasting battery life of all Asus tablets out now or coming out! that's been announced
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Yeap, the tf300/infinity have less battery life from the slide I saw a while back. I don't know why it's that way for the tf300, it should be on par with the tf101 and prime. The tf700 is more obvious, and is one of the reasons I think the 1080p+ screens are a step backwards for mobile devices. But the 4g is also to blame, for shorter battery life. I can't blame asus for that - carriers won't touch the wifi only prime, so with mobile data plans available to the tf700 it will help revenue. At least they won't have to market crappy galaxy tabs or xooms anymore.
The best option in my opinion is a 4g hotspot from clearwire, unlimited data for $45 a month, doesn't drain your tablet battery, you can charge it off the dock in your bag while you use your tablet separately, and it works for more than one device.
Tegra 4 isn't going to impact tablets as much as it will impact netbooks. The 8 core batman version of wayne will be for ultrabooks/netbooks and the robin version will be for tablets & phones. If you've paid any attention to netbooks lately - they're still lacking in the cpu and graphics department, and amd/intel are the big contenders in that department - which is why nvidia has alot to gain by offering an energy efficient 8 core ARM SoC for windows 8 netbooks.
Nvidia is moving forward from taking AMD on in the graphics department and hitting them where it will hurt in the cpu market. And everyone knows intel atom processors are complete ****, so x86/x32 on ultrabooks/netbooks may become a thing of the past if Nvidia can pull this off.
Billyvnilly said:
Default file manager is not perfect. Would love to see improvements aka incorporate what ES and Astro have been doing for a long time.
Better Inputs. The microSD card sticking out is stupid. Just make it more recessed. Same for the Audio jack, only half of it is in, the rest is exposed. Some times I drop audio in one ear, not sure, but I bet its due to this.
Better default features for lockscreen.
Speaker placement, maybe we need two speakers? The location is not great.
Keyboard keys on dock feel cheap. they are light, but when the battery already weighs what it weighs, just give me nicer keys.
WTF. How could ASUS let those chargers out of the factory. If they are plugged in one way, and you hold your tablet, it gives you a fuzzy jolt!
The tilting mechanism of the tablet on the dock kinda makes the tablet fall backwards when open. all the weight of the device is right at the back... it falls backwards all the time for me.
The build quality of the dock. If you pick it up from the side where the tablet docks, the underside metal bows & will make a clicking sound for me. The four rubber circles on the bottom of the dock aren't even! If i set my docked tablet on the table, it will still slide around cuz only 2 rubbers are on the counter.
I would always be happier with more RAM
I would like a better ASUS manager, which CRASHES all the time.
The screen bulging is annoying.
Its bad, the list can go on and on.
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I forgot to mention the microsd card in OP, glad you posted that.
Completely agree on the headphone jack, when I plug my headphones in and put my tablet in my bookbag the headphone connector shimmys it's way out and the audio cuts. It's only been doing this recently though. My fix was to just put the tablet in my bag with the jack facing down so the weight of the tablet keeps it in, not worried about my cables because they are Kevlar reinforced with a slanted jack.
I think speakers on mobile devices are a lost cause to be honest. Laptop speakers have sucked for years and they've had far more room to work with than tablets do. I won't ever be pleased with the speakers on a phone/tablet/laptop until I can hear the subbass frequencies that only my 12 inch sub or pricey beyerdynamic headphones can provide. Which is why my inner audiophile will say it's better just to go out and buy a nice set of headphones if audio quality is a concern.
Chiclet keys are a bit on the annoying side, but they're still usable. I just wish the tablet wasn't so much thicker than the dock, I wish they were even, perhaps cram some extra batteries or speakers in there.
Two words above all else;
Quality Control
Do not release buggy products, test the features you plan to advertise well in advance of the actual product release.
After that?
More RAM. 2 GB minimum. 4 would be better. And worth paying for.
Next up, 16/32 is a fine size to choose from for ROM (on board storage). I bought a 64 GB Prime and have used 8GB. I download apps extensively and never uninstall or delete anything. Maybe I'm missing something here, I don't do much video or take a lot of pics, or have a lot of audio files on my tablet. OTOH, I have a 32gb micro SD card in the dock (with adapter), and would be perfectly content putting pics, movies, short vids, etc, on there.
To the OP, the current bezel is fine. If you never take it out of the dock I could see wanting a smaller bezel, but part of the appeal of the Transformer series is that you CAN take it out of the dock. And when you do remove it, the current size of bezel means you can handle it easily (even with my large hands) without pressing the screen and opening/closing all sorts of apps.
The one physical layout of the Prime that I would change is that there is a button or control or cable plugin on each of the 4 sides.
This means that you have no where to rest if it is charging and you have an audio cable plugged in while you hold it to do something like play a game. I would put the audio plug, volume controls, HDMI plug, and power button all on one side. Leave the USB/Charging port where it is for convenience of keyboard docking. This means you have a short side and a long side that you can choose to rest on the table while playing a game, and you don't have to fight the cables or be concerned about setting the tablet on the power or volume buttons (and either messing up your volume or, worse yet, turning the power off) while doing so.
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I also forgot about the MicroSD slot. Leaving the (expensive) card half way out to be pressed by random objects and fired across the room by the ejection spring is a very, very poor design decision. If you insist on keeping the curve of the tablet shell put a "half moon" indentation in the shell to allow pressing the fully recessed MicroSD card in for release.
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Quality test the mess out of their next device, if any problem is spotted via web browsing, opening apps, connecting it to a larger TV monitor. Then they need to hold off until releasing it until they get it resolved.
The Transformer Prime should have shipped with all issues ironed out. So the consumer don't have to deal with these issues. Apple does this for it's iphone and iPad, ASUS should have done this or the Transformer Prime.
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You think iPhone's and iPad's don't have issues of there own? Nothing is perfect. iPhone 4s even with the new antennae design it still has the death grip issue. The new iPad, Yellow-ish tinted screens, overheating, poor wifi.
Lots of things could be added i mean instead of a spring loaded microsd why not a microsim like tray for the microsd?
Some Quality control would be nice, wouldn't scared off some potential customers and retailers.
The Bezel is fine to be honest how else would you hold and rest your thumbs on the screen? While yes they could develop more into the software and have it reject the thumb, Its just not reasonable.
Also a full sized usb you said? How else can they make the device so thin? Maybe a micro usb, but i don't think it can transfer enough data/power while docked.
Display? Well Asus TFP Infinity self-explanatory for the media junkies such as I.
2Gb Ram, better for the multi-tasking android supports and features.
Speakers on the side, eg Galaxy Tab 10.1 first gen.
Metal or more high quality Chiclets keys on the keyboard.
I just hope somehow someway they will get to use a better GPU on the infinity because tegra 3 is great cpu wise, while it does lack a lot in the gpu department. I mean it has to power a 1080p display and it already lags abit on the prime in some games.
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You think iPhone's and iPad's don't have issues of there own? Nothing is perfect. iPhone 4s even with the new antennae design it still has the death grip issue. The new iPad, Yellow-ish tinted screens, overheating, poor wifi.
Lots of things could be added i mean instead of a spring loaded microsd why not a microsim like tray for the microsd?
Some Quality control would be nice, wouldn't scared off some potential customers and retailers.
The Bezel is fine to be honest how else would you hold and rest your thumbs on the screen? While yes they could develop more into the software and have it reject the thumb, Its just not reasonable.
Also a full sized usb you said? How else can they make the device so thin? Maybe a micro usb, but i don't think it can transfer enough data/power while docked.
Display? Well Asus TFP Infinity self-explanatory for the media junkies such as I.
2Gb Ram, better for the multi-tasking android supports and features.
Speakers on the side, eg Galaxy Tab 10.1 first gen.
Metal or more high quality Chiclets keys on the keyboard.
I just hope somehow someway they will get to use a better GPU on the infinity because tegra 3 is great cpu wise, while it does lack a lot in the gpu department. I mean it has to power a 1080p display and it already lags abit on the prime in some games.
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I don't believe usb port would add to the thickness of a device, the dock is thinner than the tablet and can fit a usb port with room to spare.
There is a need for a bezel, just a smaller one would be nice. I have average sized hands and the bezel is still rather wide for my thumbs, about 70% of the current size would be acceptable.
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You think iPhone's and iPad's don't have issues of there own? Nothing is perfect. iPhone 4s even with the new antennae design it still has the death grip issue. The new iPad, Yellow-ish tinted screens, overheating, poor wifi.
Lots of things could be added i mean instead of a spring loaded microsd why not a microsim like tray for the microsd?
Some Quality control would be nice, wouldn't scared off some potential customers and retailers.
The Bezel is fine to be honest how else would you hold and rest your thumbs on the screen? While yes they could develop more into the software and have it reject the thumb, Its just not reasonable.
Also a full sized usb you said? How else can they make the device so thin? Maybe a micro usb, but i don't think it can transfer enough data/power while docked.
Display? Well Asus TFP Infinity self-explanatory for the media junkies such as I.
2Gb Ram, better for the multi-tasking android supports and features.
Speakers on the side, eg Galaxy Tab 10.1 first gen.
Metal or more high quality Chiclets keys on the keyboard.
I just hope somehow someway they will get to use a better GPU on the infinity because tegra 3 is great cpu wise, while it does lack a lot in the gpu department. I mean it has to power a 1080p display and it already lags abit on the prime in some games.
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I didn't say Apple products don't have issues. You're missing the point and that's that ASUS did very little quality testing on the TFP with ICS to the point that most of us can't even do basic things like utilizing the web browser, or launching and switching between native apps without the system going bugard with problems.
If one can pick up a competitor product and start surfing the web without experiencing the load stall, wait close response, or abrupt-reboot when switching or launching other default installed apps then that points to a serious problem with the quality control at ASUS and Google.
As I said in another thread, Android 4.0 is a major let down in user experience. To me it makes the most ridiculed Microsoft operating systems of the past (Windows Vista, Windows Millennium) look good.
>You're missing the point and that's that ASUS did very little quality testing on the TFP
There is QC. You're it.
>The best option in my opinion is a 4g hotspot from clearwire, unlimited data for $45 a month
lolwut.. I don't think that's good at all...only paying me $45 to use unlimited data. $90 sounds much better.
>The 8 core batman version of wayne will be for ultrabooks/netbooks and the robin version will be for tablets & phones
Pee-wee version for $199 tablet.
>micro-SD slot
Asus should do the same as GPS...take it out! MicroSD? We don't need no stinkin' micro sd..
What's the one thing that all best-selling tablets have in common?
Ya got it! No micro-SD!
Conclusion: MicroSD slot is holding Prime back from greatness!
Allow unlock with out voiding hardware defect aspect of warranty. I can put a cold air intake on my car and if the power windows stop working I still have a warranty, just saying.
Also,
Now this is a HUGE one.
PUT ANOTHER SOC IN THE DOCK!! With Nvidias SLI technology that would be awesome! Even if it is just the GPU aspect of the tablet. With these SOCs costing about $20, have a "premium" dock priced at $200.
I would buy one in a heartbeat!
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Fire their whole QC and Testing Departments and actually hire Quality QCs and Quality Test Engineers..
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Allow unlock with out voiding hardware defect aspect of warranty. I can put a cold air intake on my car and if the power windows stop working I still have a warranty, just saying.
Also,
Now this is a HUGE one.
PUT ANOTHER SOC IN THE DOCK!! With Nvidias SLI technology that would be awesome! Even if it is just the GPU aspect of the tablet. With these SOCs costing about $20, have a "premium" dock priced at $200.
I would buy one in a heartbeat!
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That's different, look at all those Smarties posting in general and q & a asking really smart questions if Asus didn't void the warranty, they would just RMA because they screwed up their own tablet. As a business that's not very smart idea.
Better? Well, jam in an extra processor or ten, a few(10) gigs of ram, up the battery and up the display to qhd(quad hd).