Finally got fed up with this dog-turd of a phone, and ordered a Nokia Lumia 822 as a replacement.
I have been with Android since flashing Donut onto my HTC Vogue, and while it was fun at first, I'm at a point now I just want my phone to work, with no need to constantly flash ROMs to get things to work well. I'm also tired of the constant lags/freezes that seem to still plague Android phones, so I've decided to take the plunge and move to a WP8 phone.
Anyway, the reason I'm writing this post is to see if anyone here has any interest in my documenting my experiences making the switch. If you want me to post here, let me know. If not, well, let me know that too. :silly:
Mike
Yes. I jumped to an iphone 4s after the dx2. Yes.
aviwdoowks said:
Yes. I jumped to an iphone 4s after the dx2. Yes.
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Juice... I responded to the op. Why don't you do the same?
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Juice... I responded to the op. Why don't you do the same?
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You know people are allowed to discuss things in threads, and not ONLY reply to the OP, right?
@OP: I don't think I could ever go from an Android phone to a Win8 phone. It's just not the same. Plus, I'm pretty sure I'd lose a lot of apps... Though, I am looking for a cheap ICS/JB replacement for my X2, anyone have a suggestion there? Looking at the Droid Bionic, but even that is fairly expensive...
You picked a bad time to switch. Android up until ICS has been pretty crappy. I came from webOS and when I was using that, I thought Android was clunky and a little ugly. This is when Gingerbread was the newest version. I made the switch because webOS was going nowhere and there was no way in hell I was switching to an iPhone. Since the Droid X2 was my first Android phone, I came into android with a not so perfect experience thanks to Motorola and their locked down ways. I used ICS and JB when they were released on the DX2 but we all know they werent perfect. I was lucky enough to be given a Galaxy Nexus and since then, my thoughts on Android have gotten a lot better. You dont know what you are missing until you use a phone thats able to fully run the latest version of Android. Lag is pretty much gone. Everything works as it should. And Android is just getting better with every update. You say you have been using Android since the old Android days. Thats why I say you picked a bad time to switch because those were the crappy android days.
As far as Windows Phone, I have nothing against it. It looks great. My girlfriend is actually making the switch from Android to WP8 this month too. Shes not as much of a customizer as I am when it comes to phones so I think she will be happy with it. Also, it will give me a chance to check it out for myself. Not that I will ever switch. I'm sticking with Android and looking forward to their next unveiling in the next couple months.
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You picked a bad time to switch. Android up until ICS has been pretty crappy. I came from webOS and when I was using that, I thought Android was clunky and a little ugly. This is when Gingerbread was the newest version. I made the switch because webOS was going nowhere and there was no way in hell I was switching to an iPhone. Since the Droid X2 was my first Android phone, I came into android with a not so perfect experience thanks to Motorola and their locked down ways. I used ICS and JB when they were released on the DX2 but we all know they werent perfect. I was lucky enough to be given a Galaxy Nexus and since then, my thoughts on Android have gotten a lot better. You dont know what you are missing until you use a phone thats able to fully run the latest version of Android. Lag is pretty much gone. Everything works as it should. And Android is just getting better with every update. You say you have been using Android since the old Android days. Thats why I say you picked a bad time to switch because those were the crappy android days.
As far as Windows Phone, I have nothing against it. It looks great. My girlfriend is actually making the switch from Android to WP8 this month too. Shes not as much of a customizer as I am when it comes to phones so I think she will be happy with it. Also, it will give me a chance to check it out for myself. Not that I will ever switch. I'm sticking with Android and looking forward to their next unveiling in the next couple months.
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I appreciate what you are saying here, and I agree that then new phones are better in this regard than before. However the only phones that even remotely come close to the speed of the WP8 phones are the flagship phones, which are at least $200 on contract or $650 off. No thanks.
And hey, maybe I'll like the new phone, maybe not. The only way to know is to try, so I'm going to give it a try. I'm certainly not trying to convince anyone to switch, just thought my experience may provide value to others.
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I appreciate what you are saying here, and I agree that then new phones are better in this regard than before. However the only phones that even remotely come close to the speed of the WP8 phones are the flagship phones, which are at least $200 on contract or $650 off. No thanks.
And hey, maybe I'll like the new phone, maybe not. The only way to know is to try, so I'm going to give it a try. I'm certainly not trying to convince anyone to switch, just thought my experience may provide value to others.
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For sure. I'm sure everyone here appreciates you sharing your experience. I'll be curious to know what you think of WP8 when you finally get it.
OP, to be honest, i felt the same way after dealing with the x2. after all we had gone through, i was just fed up. i wanted a phone that would just... work. My opinion has changed completely since i switched. after the x2, i got a rezound. it too was plagued with similar issues, and dealing with the lack of support and bad battery i nearly bought an iphone.since i got a RAZR M, my opinion has nearly 180'd. with the snapdragon s4, all my issues with android had literally melted away. with jellybeans smooth butteryness, the improved battery life, and overall impressive features, i will never leave android. even on stock, i rarely ever have horrendous battery or any stuttering whatsoever. had i been in your shoes, i definately would have held out for the SGS4, with the snapdragon 600, battery and smoothness with only go up. now, everyone has their opinions, but it seems your opinion was a little to vague and blunt in judging android as a whole. <-- thats my opinion, if anyone is interested.
My 822 got here last night, I haven't had a chance to do too much to it yet, but I'll give you my first impressions:
1. Build - Polycarbonate body is fine except for the back cover, which feels like it is going to break when you pull it off. One thing you have to give Motorola is that their phones are built like tanks, with aluminum bodies.
2. Screen - Screen is an AMOLED screen. Decided I'm not a fan. Has very nice contrast, but the oranges/browns/red look butt-awful. The 840x480 screen is a actually a benefit for me, at least, because it causes the fonts to be rendered larger than they would be on the X2, and are easier on my eyes. Plus less pixels to push means better speed from the phone.
3. Speed - Whoo boy, does this thing FLY!
That's all I will report on for now, I need some time to customize/configure the device before I come to any conclusions regarding the usability of the OS and/or app issues.
For anyone interested in differences in a few apps comparing Android, iOS and WP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bmERIowNKM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Ok, so Ive had the new phone for a little over a week now, which I beilieve takes me past the "honeymoon" period, and here are my thoughts:
The metro interface is really starting to grow on me. When I first saw the live tiles I thought "Uggh!! that's just nasty". But they look much nicer on the phone than they do on a picture on the internet. Probably due to the high contrast AMOLED display.
I still dislike the nasty oranges/browns on the device, but I've mostly stopped noticing it now.
The device feels smaller than the X2, even though it has ostensibly the same size screen as the X2. In fact, I would probably prefer a slightly larger size to get a larger screen area.
The device is slick, and has fallen out of my hand a couple of times. Almost fell into the crapper once! Definitely getting a case for this.
The screen resolution differences are a non-issue IMHO.
The camera quality is about the same as the X2, maybe a little better. MUCH faster to start, though, no longer missing the moment waiting for the camera to start.
Speaking of the camera, holy hell is Cinemagraph a cool feature. It takes a picture along with 5 seconds of video, allowing you to create a moving snapshot effect, similar to the NFL player intros on TV or the moving pictures from the Harry Potter movies.
There has been some extra work getting things setup, as I still want to retain my google accounts, but once done it is seemless enough.
In terms of speed and usability this phone blows away any Android device I've ever used, (including my Nexus 7). There is simply no comparison in this department.
Nokia Maps and Drive are not quite as nice as the Google maps and Navigator, but still very good. Not really missing anything here.
As far as apps that I miss, there really isn't much. iHeartradio is probably the big one, and they have a WP7 app so a WP8 on is expected to be coming shortly. Nokia Music fills in for iHeartRadio for now. There are a few other apps missing, but IE10 does such a nice job with mobile websites that it's just not a big deal.
I am fast becoming a fan of Nokia. Their custom apps are fantastic, and they have shown a real commitment to improving WP8 along. Whereas with Motorola phones you get an outdated, buggy OS, bloatware, and few updates, Nokia apps are superb and they are continually adding cool new features to their phones. Motorola still probably has the edge in build quality, especially with the aluminum bodies. I want my phones to last a few years, so build quality does matter to me.
There are a few things that I would like to see added, like separate volume controls, the ability to pin individual settings to the start menu, and a webkit browser, but these are relatively minor issues.
The apps are definitely fewer than what is available on Android. But the quality of the apps is significantly better as well. They are almost universally more polished and beautiful than their Android counterparts.
Overall I am loving this phone. Especially since I got it in new condition for under $200 bucks.
As I was reading Engadget yesterday I saw a couple of articles, one on the Broid Bionic finally getting upgraded to Jelly Bean, and the other one on how the HTC One bootloader is going to be locked for AT&T, I realized just how much crap one has to deal with on an Android phone. I will NOT miss any of this.
For those who contributed to the development on the X2, my sincerest thanks. You helped make a crap phone more bearable.
I may peruse the X2 forums from time to time for nostalgia's sake, but otherwise I think I won't be coming here much more. Best of luck to all of you, and hopefully DZK can get you a nice bug-free Jelly Bean build some day.
Mike
golfnz34me
Thank you for the review. I chose the dx2 for the lack of a call termination beep. As in other Moto's at the time. And these beeps are always passed to a Bluetooth headset. My iphone 4s does the same damn thing.
What about the Nokia?
I just tried this, when the caller hangs up you get a triple beep. I don't know about over bluetooth, though.
I actually like this feature.
I use the Plantronics Voyager Pro HD and it is very loud because the dynamic range not compressed and this tone is much louder than the voices.
I also notice that the tone is much louder ( iphone ) when it is a Vzw phone terminating on the other end- strange.
golfnz34me said:
I just tried this, when the caller hangs up you get a triple beep. I don't know about over bluetooth, though.
I actually like this feature.
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Are you still with this 822?
I tried it out. I really liked it at first but but WP8 is not ready for "prime time" Now this is truly "dog turd" OS . You cannot even cut & paste between apps!! Need I say more.
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Are you still with this 822?
I tried it out. I really liked it at first but but WP8 is not ready for "prime time" Now this is truly "dog turd" OS . You cannot even cut & paste between apps!! Need I say more.
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http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp7/basics/copy-and-paste
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http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp7/basics/copy-and-paste
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Are you saying that it has been fixed? What about pasting to the dialer?
No matter I went to the Razr m.
Do you have a wp8?
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Are you saying that it has been fixed? What about pasting to the dialer?
No matter I went to the Razr m.
Do you have a wp8?
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Oh, I dont know. I just searched it. But apparently its there. I couldnt imagine a phone that cant do that these days. I dont have a WP8 phone but my girlfriend does.
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Hi all, my first post here. I'm looking to upgrade from my HTC Shadow (now that's what you call a legacy devide) and move on to bigger and better stuff. What's everyone's general opinion of the ERIS? Big can't miss, or is it a phone that I'll regret buying in a few months?
I've been watching on craigslist and have noticed some awesome deals for this phone (~75-100$) Is that reasonable, too high, or too good to be true?
I'm also thinking of joining page plus and getting away from the whole contract thing so if anyone's had big issues with the eris and that whole concept let me know.
Thanks for any help. I've been going through some of the posts here. good stuff overall.
The eris is awesome. Its even better rooted. It may not have all the options newer phones have now but for a smart phone its a great choice. The price you found is good too.
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thanks labnjab. I'm definitely interested in rooting the phone. Would this screw with the page plus thing? I wouldn't think so since basically page plus sounds like it's the verizon network, but I've never rooted anything.
Totally in love with mine. Stock, it kinda sucked, but rooted and it's a totally different phone. Freedom to make it what you want.
I was never into phones before the Eris. Had a Blackjack for a while; totally unimpressed, even back in its day.
Eris definitely ain't a power performer, but definitely bang for buck.
Not too many retired phone with this level of support.
If you can pick one up cheap with no contract, I'd recommend it.
The downsides would be, space as apps continue to grow, breaking the 10mb barrier and beyond. CPU, and lack of dedicated hardware graphics may be a problem soon as more apps are written to target the hardware of higher end phones.
I'll have mine another year unless I come across a cheap no contract deal. But the Eris with Android 2.3.2 does everything I need it to. No compelling reason to upgrade for me yet.
I love the small thin form factor. Couldn't imagine carrying around some of the bricks their pushing now.
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Personally, I think now is a bad time to be thinking of getting an Eris. The #1 reason I got this phone was that it was free for me through a website other than Verizon. Actually had a $50 rebate, too, although I had to wait five months before being allowed to redeem it, so I actually got paid to get this phone.
Of course, the developers and other users here have made this phone much more interesting than I would've imagined.
The price mentioned does seem reasonable for being without a contract, but being without a contract isn't that important to me. I can go through the same website as I did when I got the Eris and get a brand new Incredible for free, now.
I doubt if I will be upgrading to anything, however, until January 2012, hopefully right after the apocalypse so that I can get any Android for free.
if you have made it this long with your Shadow without being tempted by the newest, shiniest phones, you would probably be happy with an Eris. it is a great phone which has lasted way longer than the one year i planned to keep it for, thanks to all the great dev work here on XDA.
not sure how much longer we will be able to keep up with the increasing demands beyond Gingerbread, but if you are content with features currently offered by Froyo and GB, Eris would be a solid option. i would gladly buy this phone again.
The Droid Eris will not disappoint. I got mine for $100 on ebay around Christmas time, and have loved it ever since. Rooting rocks this phone's world. It shouldn't affect anything with your page plus contract.
But I've got my eye on the Incredible and Thunderbolt. Both of those phones are great contenders. Judging from your past phone history and waiting out on smartphones for this long though, the Eris will be a great start for you, I think!
The battery life for this phone is pretty good, I've gotten it to last the whole day on one charge. The call quality is decent, pictures/videos are okay. The features of this phone are really what blow it away.
A lot of these Android phones do a lot of the same things, it really comes down to, how fast do you want your phone to be, how many things do you want it to be able to do at once, things like that.
Thanks everyone. Got the phone today. It's in awesome shape. Turns right on FAST, nothing like the shadow which took about 2.5 days to boot. I like it. So, now that I've committed, what should be the first things I do to make this phone even better???
Never done any of this stuff so I need pointed in the right direction by those wiser than myself.
I don't know about wiser, but how about someone who just did this last week.
First go here and read the first 4 posts.
Google all terms you don't understand. Then Thank your lucky stars you don't need to do all that gain root.
Go to Market and download one-click root. Follow instructions. Once you have root donate as instructed. Browse forums here to decide which ROM to load.
I like my Eris, but it is a stop gap and always was. I should have swapped it for the Incredible when that first came out. But my other phone broke and was in a bind - 2 weeks before the Incredible was being rumored to launch.
The Eris does more then I EVER expected it to and it is a good phone. The memory is what kills me, and the speed. It feels snappy, but it is too slow some of the more intensive apps I want to run.
The size of the Eris and lack of a physical keyboard is what sold me on it, and what I still like. I will hate to have to go to a brick phone again, I got rid of those in the 90's.
Root and Custom ROMs restored life to my Eris, which was about to become one with a brick wall at 200 miles an hour on the stock firmware. The stock 2.1 Sense ROM is pretty slow and overall not the greatest Android experience, but if you root and flash something like GSB, you won't regret it.
Like everyone else said, Android is Android, it's all a matter of how fast you really wanna go. Any feature that newer phones have that the Eris doesn't is pretty much totally based on hardware limitations (i.e: HD video capture, 4G, etc.). The nice thing about it though is it's small, unless you're into the whole 32" TV in your pocket deal. Slides right in and out of your side pockets and doesn't cause carpal tunnel when typing.
Once you root, as listed in a previous post, find a rom you like and install. There are several listed in the developer section of the Eris forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=554). Instructions on how to flash are included in most threads. Ask if you need further assistance!
i love my cute lil eris.
i wan running stock 2.1 for the longest time then finally took the plunge into 2.2 and now 2.3
HTC sense is why i bought this lil bugger, even though it can barely run it sometimes. in my opinion the stock rom on this isnt that bad for someones first android phone.
iv been very happy with my eris, but its almost upgrade time, sad to see this lil guy go. i usually sell my old phones to help pay for the new one but this time i might keep him around just for the memories <3
RA recovery is better then clockwork(my opinion) remember to flash that
Hi gang!
I am currently a Moto guy and have been for years. However I have play with a few of HTC's android's and I must say I like he Sense.
I have really been thinking about trying to get an HTC (ReZound) but would like to list here my main usage of my phone and get some input as to what you all think I should do.
Phone Usage:
Photos: Personal (family) use of the phone but use it a lot and would like good quality images.
Audio: Enjoy listening to music on my phone from time to time.
Video: Do enjoy watching video's, as well as recording some every now and again.
Text: LOL Do a lot of this.
Reception: Need to have a really decent radio, hate being out and can't send or recieve a phone call or have it sound like you are under water or soemthing, so that brings me to...
Sound: Need a good earphone piece for the phone, needs to be clear / crisp.
Finally
Theme's and ROM's: From what I read it seems pretty easy to aquire those for the HTC (ReZound). I know you can get stock themes from the market and etc.
Any and all input would be appreciated.
Thanks, Slim!
Honestly man, the Rezound gets the job done no matter what you're doing. It's a really well rounded phone with little to no issues. There's plenty of modified Sense ROMS and AOSP is just around the corner and there was a recent price drop. You can't go wrong.
I came from the OG droid, and was all ready to get the GNex due to all the hype and ICS. After, reading more and comparing hardware and going to various forums. I heard of alot of initial problems with the GNex that some were having and decided to get the Rezound.
Figured, through Best Buy I had 30 days and once the Gnex was fixed i would swap . Well, it has been 36 days and I am still on the Rezound and haven't regretted it yet !
The Rezound is the best phone I've ever owned.
What's important to you?
I love my graphics and I love my Rezound. I played with the SGN for a bit but didn't feel right. It is nice that the SGN is getting so much love from devs but Beats/Video put the Rezound above the SGN imo. ICS Sense is so-so but that's because I prefer AOSP. Definitely not as many devs for this phone as the SGN but how many mods do you want for your phone? Not sad at all that I didn't get the Nexus. Good luck! Although, if you've held out this long, might as well hold out for the quad-cores. I think my next phone will be the next Nexus though.
SlimMan, I was also a "Motorola Guy". I started with an OG RAZR, then went to the Z6 ROKR, then the OG Droid, and finally VZW upgraded me to a Droid X so I'm very familiar with the Motorola devices.
I decided to go with the Rezound after hearing great feedback about HTC devices from a couple friends and am thrilled with the quality of this phone. It'll excel at everything you're intending to use it for and I encourage you to give the Rezound a chance. You won't be disappointed.
I appreciate all the replies, I am def. Keeping the Rezound in mind. Please feel free to continue feedback as any and all is appreciated.
Slim!
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I am the head of the cell phone dept where I work (186 phones) & get my phones free. I can have any phone I want & my personal phone is a Rezound.
IMHO, the Rezound at this point is hands down the best phone ever made. We have a few Galaxy Nexus phones on our account & I think that phone turned out to be one of the biggest disappointments in recent history.
I basically waited 6 months to buy the Nexus. When I finally got my hands on one, I used it for about a week & passed it on to a coworker. I was shocked that after all the hype & the release date being shoved back so many times that the Nexus turned out to be so much less than most people expected it to be.
Been using this phone for nearly 2 weeks now, and for the most part, I've been happy. However, with the Galaxy S III coming in a few weeks, I feel as though I should have at least waited before figuring out which phone I was going to use for the next 2 years. Because of that I decided to return the phone back to Wirefly and go back to using an old Blackberry until I decide to go back to the LTEVO or the GS III. I sold my E4GT so I can't go back to that.
LTEVO Pros
-Beautiful screen
-Excellent build quality and in-hand feel
-Very good (relatively) 3g performance in my area
LTEVO Cons
-Phone performance not that great, especially after opening and switching between a few apps
-Camera is good, but not nearly as good as I had hoped it would be
The two cons are biggies for me. I know for a fact that the sluggishness is related to software, but if you've ever used a Galaxy S II device, you'll realize how spoiled you were by how fast and responsive that phone was. It's an HTC thing; their software sucks compared to Samsung. Even using the T-Mo GSII based on the Qualcomm SoC felt a lot faster than any HTC phone based on the same SoC. I'm not saying TouchWiz is more functional than Sense, I'm just saying it's FASTER, which is 100% true.
The camera is good but the low light performance isn't as great as I had hoped it would be. Comparing to shots from my GSII, LTEVO shots were much more grainy. I also don't like the HTC camera software, and it might even be Sense related. I feel the software isn't fast nor intuitive. I hate the focusing mechanisms. Call me crazy, but I like crosshairs and boxes that help you determine what exactly is being focused. Also, the software isn't responsive. Taking out my phone and snapping a picture isn't very fast. It's acceptable, but like I said, with another great phone around the corner, there's really no reason why I shouldn't test them both and then decide which of the two I'd rather keep.
I'm not trying to bash the LTEVO. I'm sure we'll all agree, the device is far from perfect (all the devices are, in fact). However, I think most of us have the opportunity of trying BOTH phones before finally deciding which to go with. In a sense (no pun intended), the LTEVO delay was a blessing in disguise. Had it been launched on time, we'd be stuck with it. Now we have the chance of putting it up against a very formidable opponent and choosing which phone fits our style better. The GSIII could very well suck, but thankfully we have the luxury of being able to choose the phone we want because of how close together their launches were. I could be returning my phone, just to re-purchase it in a month, but I feel I have nothing to lose and everything to gain. If the GSIII is a rockstar then I'm going to be kicking myself for not getting it instead.
Anyway, does anyone else feel as though they jumped the gun, and will be trying out the GSIII?
I feel this way only a little bit.. luckily best buy has a 30 day exchange. I am going to try both of them. This is a pretty solid phone, but I can not stand the browser always flashing white while scrolling, and the reception issues. I know both probably can get updated to work fine, but it is bothering me. I am going to test out the GSIII and see how the radios perform. If they are not up to speed I will probably stick with this phone and hope the updates come soon enough.
Sent from El Tevo Pokemon style!!!!
We are still on a stock ROM since it was released a couple weeks ago. I would imagine some of the issues you describe will be ironed out in upcoming ROM updates from Sprint and HTC. You also forgot other pros about this device like very good battery life, Beats by Dr. Dre, outstanding camera. No I didn't jump the gun. The GS3 will not be perfect at release also. Every device has bugs that need fixing.
If you think the camera isn't that great, take a look at one of the pictures I posted a while back here in the General forum.
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Not at all. I don't use Samsung on principle, they are in bed ith Apple and playing both sides of the market. I have used the SGS phones and they're not better or worse, just different - depending on what you value in a phone. I also don't experience any of the cons you are complaining about, but everybody has different expectations and experiences.
Why do so many people start threads asking for others to take their side in decisions like this? If you don't like the phone, just return it and keep looking until you find something you do like. You don't need 1000 signatures on your petition to return the phone. It's your preference, do what works for you.
Just know that you'll be able to find something wrong with the SGS3 as well if you're honest with yourself.
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No, I dont feel like I jumped the gun. Im happy with my decision, the aesthetics alone was enough of an edge for me personally.
My gf sold her gs2 and bought this phone. Had it for 3 hours then made me.give her my gs2 and take this evo. Its not bad i have a defender case on and do like the feel but i preordered a gs3 and cannot.wait lol. Ill.keep this phone while i try the gs3 but this evo dose get very "laggy" when multi tasking. My gs2 didnt
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The grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side.
That being said, I purchased the EVO LTE the day it came out and I have absolutely zero complaints about it. This phone will easily last me 2 years.
stop the madness. go preach your "i hate this phone" some where else.
why are there so many biotchez in these forums
SilverZero said:
Not at all. I don't use Samsung on principle, they are in bed ith Apple and playing both sides of the market. I have used the SGS phones and they're not better or worse, just different - depending on what you value in a phone. I also don't experience any of the cons you are complaining about, but everybody has different expectations and experiences.
Why do so many people start threads asking for others to take their side in decisions like this? If you don't like the phone, just return it and keep looking until you find something you do like. You don't need 1000 signatures on your petition to return the phone. It's your preference, do what works for you.
Just know that you'll be able to find something wrong with the SGS3 as well if you're honest with yourself.
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He is only here to get other people's opinions. I know not every phone is perfect but you are on a forum that deals with alot of phones. People would like to have other peoples opinions of their choice of electronics, kind of like looking at all the reviews of a product.
Sent from El Tevo Pokemon style!!!!
To OP: No.
And no.
popper668 said:
stop the madness. go preach your "i hate this phone" some where else.
why are there so many biotchez in these forums
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Bro, settle down. It has been said before, our phone is only 12 days old. There will be people overanalyzing minor discrepancies and having that "buyer's remorse". Give it another couple weeks and the "WHY DID I BUY THIS?!" posts will go away.
vulcZ said:
Been using this phone for nearly 2 weeks now, and for the most part, I've been happy. However, with the Galaxy S III coming in a few weeks, I feel as though I should have at least waited before figuring out which phone I was going to use for the next 2 years. Because of that I decided to return the phone back to Wirefly and go back to using an old Blackberry until I decide to go back to the LTEVO or the GS III. I sold my E4GT so I can't go back to that.
LTEVO Pros
-Beautiful screen
-Excellent build quality and in-hand feel
-Very good (relatively) 3g performance in my area
LTEVO Cons
-Phone performance not that great, especially after opening and switching between a few apps
-Camera is good, but not nearly as good as I had hoped it would be
The two cons are biggies for me. I know for a fact that the sluggishness is related to software, but if you've ever used a Galaxy S II device, you'll realize how spoiled you were by how fast and responsive that phone was. It's an HTC thing; their software sucks compared to Samsung. Even using the T-Mo GSII based on the Qualcomm SoC felt a lot faster than any HTC phone based on the same SoC. I'm not saying TouchWiz is more functional than Sense, I'm just saying it's FASTER, which is 100% true.
The camera is good but the low light performance isn't as great as I had hoped it would be. Comparing to shots from my GSII, LTEVO shots were much more grainy. I also don't like the HTC camera software, and it might even be Sense related. I feel the software isn't fast nor intuitive. I hate the focusing mechanisms. Call me crazy, but I like crosshairs and boxes that help you determine what exactly is being focused. Also, the software isn't responsive. Taking out my phone and snapping a picture isn't very fast. It's acceptable, but like I said, with another great phone around the corner, there's really no reason why I shouldn't test them both and then decide which of the two I'd rather keep.
I'm not trying to bash the LTEVO. I'm sure we'll all agree, the device is far from perfect (all the devices are, in fact). However, I think most of us have the opportunity of trying BOTH phones before finally deciding which to go with. In a sense (no pun intended), the LTEVO delay was a blessing in disguise. Had it been launched on time, we'd be stuck with it. Now we have the chance of putting it up against a very formidable opponent and choosing which phone fits our style better. The GSIII could very well suck, but thankfully we have the luxury of being able to choose the phone we want because of how close together their launches were. I could be returning my phone, just to re-purchase it in a month, but I feel I have nothing to lose and everything to gain. If the GSIII is a rockstar then I'm going to be kicking myself for not getting it instead.
Anyway, does anyone else feel as though they jumped the gun, and will be trying out the GSIII?
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Nope cause my performance and camera is great.
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This is nothing compared to the EVO3D forums and all the Samsung SGS2 trolls that used to post how much better the SGS2 was.
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Yea these people are getting ridiculous.. You don't like the camera app? What's not to like? I your reaching for that.. Go into the gs3 forums and you will quickly find out that people are having problems with them as well.. Not a phone problem as much as being an early adopter problem.. Can't believe u don't like the camera.. Some people will never be happy.. I'll end with this.. A software update will fix all these issues ppl have..multi tasking being my main one.. But a software update won't give uba metal unibody, kickstand and just an overall better built phone.. Same s4 chip in ppl.. I swear ppl are adhd nowadays
Nah. I don't have any performance issues and the only camera issue I have is that the hardware shutter button is half useless (only holds the focus, does not refocus when half pressed)
Also Deck is working on CM9 for the evo lte so that is a huge pro right there.
The battery life is amazing.
mike.r.olson said:
Bro, settle down. It has been said before, our phone is only 12 days old. There will be people overanalyzing minor discrepancies and having that "buyer's remorse". Give it another couple weeks and the "WHY DID I BUY THIS?!" posts will go away.
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your right. i have taken my meds and have calmed down.
i just dont see the problems these people are pulling out of there a$$es.
I love this phone and the development has barely started, who knows what magic will be dreamed up?? but it will be awesome, I will bet on it.
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your right. i have taken my meds and have calmed down.
i just dont see the problems these people are pulling out of there a$$es.
I love this phone and the development has barely started, who knows what magic will be dreamed up?? but it will be awesome, I will bet on it.
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Those people r called attention whores. They start a stupid post and get their kicks off when someone actually responds.
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I didn't feel like this until i found out about the 2gb ram in the gs3. I like everything about the phone though, just wish it had 2gb. I wanted the best phone spec wise fir longer than a couple weeks.
I understand the agitation since every time I refresh xda I see another one of these posts.. I guess it's just hard for me to imagine wanting a Samsung.. I'm hard core HTC.. And with or previous devices I was willing to concede that maybe Samsung were better in some areas.. IE the gs2 vs my evo 3d.. The gs2 may have been better I guess to some or most of but I wouldn't have it.. I loved my 3d despite all the naysayers.. Anywho I really believe that with the evo LTE that HTC is back on top.. Esp hardware wise.. I dunno how someone could even argue that the gs3 is better in that regard.. Esp. With the same soc...so the software bugs will get worked out.. Just hold out... It's ok to enjoy your phone and focus on what it does well instead
I don't think I jumped the gun, just wish I had a magical gun to make all the Samsung trolls disappear
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Well I've had the rezound since it came out and I always loved it. But it's a little outdated now and development has slowed quite a bit. So I'm thinking about getting a new phone.
I'm 99% sure I'm not gonna get the iPhone, even though I love my iPad and MacBook I think android is better than the iPhone.
The galaxy nexus is one of my top choices but I think they might be coming out with a new one soon and I would rather wait.
The s3 is my top choice as of now.
I don't see any reason to get the d inc lte.
I'm looking for battery life that is better than my rezound. I would like a decent screen but it's not that important. Most importantly I want the phone to be smooth and fast. And I would love something that is getting jb.
So what do you think? Keep the rezound or get another phone? Any suggestions other than what I listed?
Thanks!
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Well I've had the rezound since it came out and I always loved it. But it's a little outdated now and development has slowed quite a bit. So I'm thinking about getting a new phone.
I'm 99% sure I'm not gonna get the iPhone, even though I love my iPad and MacBook I think android is better than the iPhone.
The galaxy nexus is one of my top choices but I think they might be coming out with a new one soon and I would rather wait.
The s3 is my top choice as of now.
I don't see any reason to get the d inc lte.
I'm looking for battery life that is better than my rezound. I would like a decent screen but it's not that important. Most importantly I want the phone to be smooth and fast. And I would love something that is getting jb.
So what do you think? Keep the rezound or get another phone? Any suggestions other than what I listed?
Thanks!
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Honestly i would wait for the next nexus device and cross my fingers its made buy htc lol. I love sense and all but i really like the fact that a nexus is made exactly for that version of android at the time and is still in mind when they make a new os. Like the nexus s came with gingerbread, then ics, and will soon get jellybean i here. I mean 3 os updates and it runs even better than when it came out with gb, unlike many other phones (not the rezound) when they get a os update they start to usually slow down because its not made with that os in mine. But thats just me lol
Thanks! I think I'm gonna stick with my rezound for now. If the one x comes to Verizon I'll get that
Unfortunately they've already said Sammy's making the next Nexus.
Actually I guess that's not official... Just based on a leaked Samsung spec sheet.
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I've fought tooth and nail defending this phone for its outstanding hardware, but I'm starting to think it may be time to throw in the towel. The radios have amazing signal compared to Samsung. Problem? My strong as hell 4G signal stalls constantly. It never drops, just stalls all communications. I was so happy to see data stalls listed as fixed on this new ruu leak, but its completely untrue. No change. Not to mention the kernel drama. Still runs hot as hell. My respect for HTC has gone straight out the window this time. Not even aosp can redeem it for me now. So in short, I'm ready for a New phone as well and tell you go for it.
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I'm 99% sure I'm not gonna get the iPhone, even though I love my iPad and MacBook I think android is better than the iPhone.
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I bought a new iPhone for my sister a few months ago. I was setting it up for her and had it side by side next to my Rezound for about 4 or 5 days. I was just shocked at what a piece of crap it was. The screen was so small, it was like holding a kids toy or something. Honestly, it was painful to look at with its tiny, tiny screen.
3G just sucks. Granted, it was on Sprint's network (which I hear is not as good as Verizon) but 3G just sucked. Slow, spotty... Downloading apps seemed to take forever compared to my blazing fast 4G.
No widgets? WTF? I had to click on 3 or 4 things just to get to a Bluetooth control panel - my Rezound has a link right to the Bluetooth control panel on the homescreen. I love the big clock/weather widget on my homescreen, and having 4 different apps I can immediately go into during an unlock is terrific.
I have a few friends who have iPhones. One day, one of those guys who does sales (and is kind of an ass) started projecting that "I'm awesome because I own and iPhone and I love it and I love me and Im soo dam kewl" attitude - and I just tore him to shreds with the above three points.
He countered with "Well, I use iTunes and all my stuff is there and it magically appears in my iCloud, bla bla bla". I admitted he did have a point, but I ripped into him about how much iTunes sucks/I have my own cloud/etc. But I make sure to rip on him and his tiny screen and slow bandwidth opium of the masses toy whenever he brings it up.
I honestly feel sorry for people who are blinded by how cool they think they are because they bought an iPhone. Seriously, it reminds me of these people who are brainwashed into a religious cult and think they are going to be teleported to a paradise planet by an alien named Xennue or something.
I use Gmail/Google Calendar/Google Contacts/Google Docs... I have no desire to give that up for an iPhone.
However, I do like my iPad. Now that it can run Chrome, its actually nice. I can easily access all the above with little hassle.
Other than this ICS/Google Maps 6.10 debacle, I've had no issues with my Rezound whatsoever. With its extended battery, its just a great piece of hardware. I can't see myself changing that for any reason for a long, long time...
Now... Tablets... that's another story...
WebmastuhB said:
I bought a new iPhone for my sister a few months ago. I was setting it up for her and had it side by side next to my Rezound for about 4 or 5 days. I was just shocked at what a piece of crap it was. The screen was so small, it was like holding a kids toy or something. Honestly, it was painful to look at with its tiny, tiny screen.
3G just sucks. Granted, it was on Sprint's network (which I hear is not as good as Verizon) but 3G just sucked. Slow, spotty... Downloading apps seemed to take forever compared to my blazing fast 4G.
No widgets? WTF? I had to click on 3 or 4 things just to get to a Bluetooth control panel - my Rezound has a link right to the Bluetooth control panel on the homescreen. I love the big clock/weather widget on my homescreen, and having 4 different apps I can immediately go into during an unlock is terrific.
I have a few friends who have iPhones. One day, one of those guys who does sales (and is kind of an ass) started projecting that "I'm awesome because I own and iPhone and I love it and I love me and Im soo dam kewl" attitude - and I just tore him to shreds with the above three points.
He countered with "Well, I use iTunes and all my stuff is there and it magically appears in my iCloud, bla bla bla". I admitted he did have a point, but I ripped into him about how much iTunes sucks/I have my own cloud/etc. But I make sure to rip on him and his tiny screen and slow bandwidth opium of the masses toy whenever he brings it up.
I honestly feel sorry for people who are blinded by how cool they think they are because they bought an iPhone. Seriously, it reminds me of these people who are brainwashed into a religious cult and think they are going to be teleported to a paradise planet by an alien named Xennue or something.
I use Gmail/Google Calendar/Google Contacts/Google Docs... I have no desire to give that up for an iPhone.
However, I do like my iPad. Now that it can run Chrome, its actually nice. I can easily access all the above with little hassle.
Other than this ICS/Google Maps 6.10 debacle, I've had no issues with my Rezound whatsoever. With its extended battery, its just a great piece of hardware. I can't see myself changing that for any reason for a long, long time...
Now... Tablets... that's another story...
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Wow so much animosity towards the iPhone. Its really not a bad device. Both iOS and Android are solid platforms, and both have their pros and cons.
EDIT: Scratch all that i mustve overlooked the fact you have an iPad, so you do like the platform. As for the cultish fanboyism of ios yeah its there, but its going to exist everywhere. We have fanboy android users with the same mentality.
Well if I get a new phone it will be the s3. So what do you think, rezound or s3? I really don't know what to do here. I've been with htc since the apache. The galaxy s3 looks pretty good though. What do you think?
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Well if I get a new phone it will be the s3. So what do you think, rezound or s3? I really don't know what to do here. I've been with htc since the apache. The galaxy s3 looks pretty good though. What do you think?
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nice looking phone with a better processor. Already leaks of JB on the international version. Promising. Personally, I'm riding the rezound for a while longer.
"GONNA RIP'EM A NEW ONE!" - Duke Nukem
Well said Webmastuh . Hehehe.. iphones may be slick, but they are highly overrated. Lots of these new Android phones whoop ish*ts a$$. The Rezound is an excellent piece of hardware, when paired with the proper software and firmware. The S3 is an excellent handset. The interface and graphics acceleration are much faster than the Rez, but as you know, Samsung has always had poor radios. Idk if they have improved it on the new S3 though...
IrvChynaman said:
Wow so much animosity towards the iPhone. Its really not a bad device. Both iOS and Android are solid platforms, and both have their pros and cons.
EDIT: Scratch all that i mustve overlooked the fact you have an iPad, so you do like the platform. As for the cultish fanboyism of ios yeah its there, but its going to exist everywhere. We have fanboy android users with the same mentality.
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Ha! Yeah, sorry if the post came off full of iPhone/iOS vitriol. I agree - both iOS and Android are both solid OS's/Platforms and both have their pros and cons. For the record I work with both and I'll program for either. I dropped the "religious fervor" about this stuff a while ago - they are all just tools.
I actually have a couple of iPads, and like a lot of things about them. I use them a lot to do actual productive work (mostly note taking and emails on the go). I have a couple of Android tablets, and I'm interested in getting a Surface.
But I'm sticking with my attack on iPhones. G3 sucks compared to my Rezound's G4, the iPhone screen is much smaller than my Rezound, and iPhone doesn't have widgets (and that shouldn't be overlooked. They are convenient as heck.)
I found out the other day that if I ever want to upgrade my Rezound with a subsidized phone from Verizon, I MUST drop my unlimited data plan for one of those metered plans they have. I told the rep I would never do this, and that I'd fire Verizon and switch to Sprint or T-Mobile first.
But the question I had was why upgrade my phone? The answer was "for new functionality that comes out". My answer was "I'll just do new functionality on a tablet, and keep my phone as-is." I'm a pretty imaginative guy, but I can't see why I'd have a specific need to upgrade my phone anytime soon. If some new killer-must-have app comes out tomorrow that doesn't run on a Rezound - cool, I'll just get it on a tablet. I'll keep the Rezound for basic stuff and use other advanced/new stuff on a tablet. The Rezound will be relegated to a bandwidth pipe with some basic email checking functions. Oh, and actual phone calls...
Maybe if 5G comes out that the Rezound can't handle... (and it would have to be a 5 - 10 times better than 4G to make it worth it), then maybe I'd consider replacing my Rezound... Unless a tablet comes out that has it built in... Or maybe some specific must-have thing would work better with a small form factor, but then again it might also be available in 5-7inch tablet for $200...
Switching back to my old phone....
Maybe I'm crazy (don't answer that), but I'm seriously thinking about switching back to my Dinc2 from the Rezound. After using the Rezound for several months, I'm just not that crazy about it. Sure, its bigger and has 4G, but everything about it - flashing ROMs, S-On/S-Off, this radio, that radio - is so COMPLICATED. The Dinc2 is just so much easier.
And I know that development on the Dinc2 has slowed way down, but it has on the Rezound too. I guess I'm just not sure what I should do, but I don't want to switch, then switch back again because I miss 4G. Any advice would be appreciated.
HarleyChick said:
Maybe I'm crazy (don't answer that), but I'm seriously thinking about switching back to my Dinc2 from the Rezound. After using the Rezound for several months, I'm just not that crazy about it. Sure, its bigger and has 4G, but everything about it - flashing ROMs, S-On/S-Off, this radio, that radio - is so COMPLICATED. The Dinc2 is just so much easier.
And I know that development on the Dinc2 has slowed way down, but it has on the Rezound too. I guess I'm just not sure what I should do, but I don't want to switch, then switch back again because I miss 4G. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Read one of the more simple guides and stick with your Rezzy. It only seems complicated to me when I'm speed reading.
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HarleyChick said:
Maybe I'm crazy (don't answer that), but I'm seriously thinking about switching back to my Dinc2 from the Rezound. After using the Rezound for several months, I'm just not that crazy about it. Sure, its bigger and has 4G, but everything about it - flashing ROMs, S-On/S-Off, this radio, that radio - is so COMPLICATED. The Dinc2 is just so much easier.
And I know that development on the Dinc2 has slowed way down, but it has on the Rezound too. I guess I'm just not sure what I should do, but I don't want to switch, then switch back again because I miss 4G. Any advice would be appreciated.
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I'd advise against reactivating a 3g phone on your line, especially if you have unlimited or a double data deal. Verizon is looking for any excuse to take those away, and switching between a 4g and 3g phone apparently qualifies. (Seriously, I've been on the phone with Verizon all morning trying to fix my uncle's plan).
if you have questions on flashing, just ask, there are helpful rezound people around.
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I'd advise against reactivating a 3g phone on your line, especially if you have unlimited or a double data deal. Verizon is looking for any excuse to take those away, and switching between a 4g and 3g phone apparently qualifies. (Seriously, I've been on the phone with Verizon all morning trying to fix my uncle's plan).
if you have questions on flashing, just ask, there are helpful rezound people around.
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Ouch.. Good to know
Just called and checked and they told me that if I activate a TB on the line my unlimited. Maybe it's if you flop back? I'm pretty sure the line was 3g.
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JustSomeDude said:
I'd advise against reactivating a 3g phone on your line, especially if you have unlimited or a double data deal. Verizon is looking for any excuse to take those away, and switching between a 4g and 3g phone apparently qualifies. (Seriously, I've been on the phone with Verizon all morning trying to fix my uncle's plan).
if you have questions on flashing, just ask, there are helpful rezound people around.
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I was wondering about that. Thanks for the info. That may just be enough to make me want to stay on the Rez. :good:
I don't know why people think dev on the Rezound is slowing because it's actually at more of a standstill. But, the OTA updates have dropped and now we are waiting for source to drop. Once that happens I have a feeling dev will continue on again and hopefully continue on long after the Rezound's shelf life much like the orig Incredible.
So I got my G2 today, and this is my impression:
I've heard a lot about this device. A LOT. And it made me desire it so bad. But I'm really disappointed.
1. With the speakers: they're bad. So bad. My previous device was HTC One, and switching from One to G2's speakers.. is a big downfall.
2. With the camera: it's bad. The quality is bad. On paper it's better than the One's but the quality of the picture is just not good. Looks too blurry and noisy altogether.
3. With the expectations: on paper the G2 is twice better the One [specs-wise], but I can't notice any difference using it.
4. And most of all - with the developers: the G2's UI is simply screaming "Root me! Flash another rom!". And I did. But no rom is good. I've tried 6 of them, one by one. First off, they're full of bugs, they're incomplete. Secondly, they fail to give you the Nexus 5 experience. It feels like you're using only the skin, a launcher, not a clean android rom. The developers are just not as good as the One's developers. The roms I had with the One were so good. The Nexus 5 experience was so good, I could feel I was using a Google Edition phone. No bugs, no imitations.
I'm already missing my One......
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So I got my G2 today, and this is my impression:
I've heard a lot about this device. A LOT. And it made me desire it so bad. But I'm really disappointed.
1. With the speakers: they're bad. So bad. My previous device was HTC One, and switching from One to G2's speakers.. is a big downfall.
2. With the camera: it's bad. The quality is bad. On paper it's better than the One's but the quality of the picture is just not good. Looks too blurry and noisy altogether.
3. With the expectations: on paper the G2 is twice better the One [specs-wise], but I can't notice any difference using it.
4. And most of all - with the developers: the G2's UI is simply screaming "Root me! Flash another rom!". And I did. But no rom is good. I've tried 6 of them, one by one. First off, they're full of bugs, they're incomplete. Secondly, they fail to give you the Nexus 5 experience. It feels like you're using only the skin, a launcher, not a clean android rom. The developers are just not as good as the One's developers. The roms I had with the One were so good. The Nexus 5 experience was so good, I could feel I was using a Google Edition phone. No bugs, no imitations.
I'm already missing my One......
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Developers just not as good?
Holy crap, just go away already. Are you PAYING anyone for Dev? I came from the HTC One, and This phone runs circles around it. Better battery, YES better camera, better screen.
You criticising the dev community here is a very crappy thing to do. Very very sad.
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Developers just not as good?
Holy crap, just go away already. Are you PAYING anyone for Dev? I came from the HTC One, and This phone runs circles around it. Better battery, YES better camera, better screen.
You criticising the dev community here is a very crappy thing to do. Very very sad.
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I know it sounds bad. My apologies if I offended someone.
Just had to unload my thoughts.
Not to be argumentative...but I find posts like these absolutely bewildering. You had a Nexus 5, but got the G2. You like the HTC One, but turned it in and got the G2....and it sounds like you got the G2 based on what you saw in writing, rather than having tried it out -- at least not long enough to realize you don't like the speakers, camera, stock GUI, etc. I hope that, in making a purchase like this, effectively "blind", that you still have an option to return the phone -- that's the only option I can think of that would make an impulsive uninformed purchase reasonable, unless you have money to burn.
There must have been hundreds of posts describing the UI in detail, and dozens of articles discussing the pros and cons of the stock UI vs vanilla KitKat and the various ROMs that are available, along with many, many photos of the screens. Also - many, many articles that discuss and contrast HTC One speakers with those on the G2, and on many other phones. After 4 or 5 months on the market, there are SO many discussions pro and con on this phone that pretty much none of these topics should come as a surprise -- the only variable would be your personal reaction, and how your opinion comes down each topic. There are numerous people who absolutely love the G2, a number who don't like it, and many with mixed feelings. But it seems that virtually every major topic, including the ones you've described, have been fleshed out in great detail here and on another dozen or two sites. With the topics and points of contention - and strong personal opinion - well known, wouldn't it have made sense to explore these "live" up front, before making the purchase?
Again - I don't mean to be contentious, I'm just genuinely bewildered. Also - in the interest of full disclosure - I've been using cell phones for about 22 years and have owned dozens -- all different manufacturers, OS's, ROMs, carriers, etc. I was a flashaholic with my last few phones, most notably with my GNex (flashing ROM's many times a week at the end). For my purposes, to my taste, and based on a combination of criteria, this is the best phone I've owned or used, period. But, after reading about it in depth, I went to a couple of stores that had live test models, and spent enough time with a G2 to have an excellent idea of my reaction to each item that was a question for me. By the time I bought it, I knew I liked it, and that the issues some people complained about didn't bother me. In the time since I brought it home, I've come to appreciate it even more.
No doubt some will like it and some won't. It's great that we have choices. I simply don't understand knowing that polarizing issues such as the ones you describe exist, making a purchase without checking these out for yourself, and then coming online to complain about them after the purchase has been made. Am I missing something?
No intention of picking a fight or offending -- I simply don't understand this scenario.
A lesson in life for you.
1. Never read and listen things in one way. People like it, they praise it and say a lot of good things about it. Do read the negative side of it.
2. Do not just read on the web, go to store and spend 30' or 1hrs to really try it out before commit.
3. Do expect less, there is nothing perfect in this world, this one is good, don't expect the other as good as it. Latest doesn't mean greatest.
4. Seek your happiness elsewhere. If you don't like a "thing", just divorce it and marry the next one with care.
You heard a lot. A LOT about the G2 and still bought it? Thats braindead.
You dont feel a difference between the HTC One and G2? I'm having both Phones and the HTC feels a lot worse than the G2, performancewise.
Sound is worse than the htc? Of course, the one is having one of the best (stereo) speakers... lol ... you guy such a bad troll.
How do you not get the Nexus experience with CM11? Troll. This phone flies with cyanogenmod.
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Not to be argumentative...but I find posts like these absolutely bewildering. You had a Nexus 5, but got the G2. You like the HTC One, but turned it in and got the G2....and it sounds like you got the G2 based on what you saw in writing, rather than having tried it out -- at least not long enough to realize you don't like the speakers, camera, stock GUI, etc. I hope that, in making a purchase like this, effectively "blind", that you still have an option to return the phone -- that's the only option I can think of that would make an impulsive uninformed purchase reasonable, unless you have money to burn.
There must have been hundreds of posts describing the UI in detail, and dozens of articles discussing the pros and cons of the stock UI vs vanilla KitKat and the various ROMs that are available, along with many, many photos of the screens. Also - many, many articles that discuss and contrast HTC One speakers with those on the G2, and on many other phones. After 4 or 5 months on the market, there are SO many discussions pro and con on this phone that pretty much none of these topics should come as a surprise -- the only variable would be your personal reaction, and how your opinion comes down each topic. There are numerous people who absolutely love the G2, a number who don't like it, and many with mixed feelings. But it seems that virtually every major topic, including the ones you've described, have been fleshed out in great detail here and on another dozen or two sites. With the topics and points of contention - and strong personal opinion - well known, wouldn't it have made sense to explore these "live" up front, before making the purchase?
Again - I don't mean to be contentious, I'm just genuinely bewildered. Also - in the interest of full disclosure - I've been using cell phones for about 22 years and have owned dozens -- all different manufacturers, OS's, ROMs, carriers, etc. I was a flashaholic with my last few phones, most notably with my GNex (flashing ROM's many times a week at the end). For my purposes, to my taste, and based on a combination of criteria, this is the best phone I've owned or used, period. But, after reading about it in depth, I went to a couple of stores that had live test models, and spent enough time with a G2 to have an excellent idea of my reaction to each item that was a question for me. By the time I bought it, I knew I liked it, and that the issues some people complained about didn't bother me. In the time since I brought it home, I've come to appreciate it even more.
No doubt some will like it and some won't. It's great that we have choices. I simply don't understand knowing that polarizing issues such as the ones you describe exist, making a purchase without checking these out for yourself, and then coming online to complain about them after the purchase has been made. Am I missing something?
No intention of picking a fight or offending -- I simply don't understand this scenario.
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I agree with most of what you said, but you're also wrong; I've read lots, watched lots of videos, watched lots of screenshots of roms and stuff, read about pros and cons, read comparisons to the HTC ONE.
The only thing I couldn't do is try it live. I don't know where you live, based on your English I'll guess US, but in my country there's no place we can try devices, only iPhone and Galaxy because it's mainstream. Higher quality like HTC, LG, Nexus and stuff, are not offered by stores to try. Only people who are familiar with quality and brands buy these phones here, and we buy new phones based on what we're told.
I've bought the G2 for two reasons: battery and money. I'm short on money so I sold my One for cash, and bought the G2 in credit so I have some cash for a while. As for the horrible UI, I knew what I was getting into, but I thought that I could replace it with Google Edition roms like I did with the One when I didn't like the Sense, but as I mentioned, the developers are not as good and the roms they offer are bad compared to the roms of the One, so now I'm stuck with the stock GUI.
you're right in everything pretty much in regards to speakers/camera.
speaker: it sucks because it's tinny, but what's worse is LG uses their own limiter/compressor on it, which makes everything sound awful. i assume they did this so you could get maximum volume without clipping. with the help of xdabebb, i've disabled their equalizer/compressor/limiter and it sounds more natural now, but obviously volume is a bit lower because it's not amplified as high.
camera: yeah, it sucks. there's nothing more to say. i've never been this disappointed with a phone camera until now. the quality is just bad.
malikadnanm said:
How do you not get the Nexus experience with CM11? Troll. This phone flies with cyanogenmod.
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I'm not a troll.
I've used ARHD GE with my One, it felt like Nexus.
But with Paranoid and CM11, they changed something. It's not the same. There are bugs in the gallery, in the home screen you can only scroll to the right and not to the left and some other minor things, and it feels like a skin and not like a real stock clean android rom, like it with with ARHD GE on my One.
gunnyman said:
Developers just not as good?
Holy crap, just go away already. Are you PAYING anyone for Dev? I came from the HTC One, and This phone runs circles around it. Better battery, YES better camera, better screen.
You criticising the dev community here is a very crappy thing to do. Very very sad.
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Paying anybody? So if your gonna spend time to 'develop' and release a piece of crap worthless piece of software because you want attention and internet fame...make sure the fckin thing works first...thats a new thought, huh?
Of course the trolls come out as soon as anyone displays the SLIGHTEST hint of dissatisfaction.....you internet guys should really grow up...
coming from the note 2 , G2 is a beast
It's the best smartphone I've ever used but sadly yes the speakers disappoints me
however i could never be happier with a smartphone
Still saying the devs are bad? The aosp roms have the same issues. Common among them is the freezing. Blame kernel source and drivers not the devs.
I feel that CM is amazing on the G2, especially for not have a designated dev for our device. The freezes aren't that big of a deal to me, but I can see how that might be very annoying to other people. This is by far the best phone I've had especially comparing to my previous HTC devices - original HTC G1, HTC One x. and HTC One. :good:
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Developers just not as good?
Holy crap, just go away already. Are you PAYING anyone for Dev? I came from the HTC One, and This phone runs circles around it. Better battery, YES better camera, better screen.
You criticising the dev community here is a very crappy thing to do. Very very sad.
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I don't think this is a good knee-jerk reaction to have. The devs aren't babies and I'm sure they can handle someone not thinking their work is up to par with another dev community. That said, as a prospective G2 owner who plans to root + ROM, it's definitely valuable to hear if things aren't as good as they seem to be. Sure I'm not going to base my entire decision off one guy's opinion, but I'll be more aware of these issues and it'll do nothing other than help me make an informed decision.
And to be honest, looking through a lot of the ROMs, he does seem to be right. I believe it when they say many problems will go away with the kernel source, but right now that's the state of things.
Well I don't usually chime in on threads like these but... anyway...
Ok I have had the HTC One (my son has it now)... Still have the S4...
I have a Sprint G2 on the latest ZVA update. Rooted with Xposed Tweaks.
I have to say that I'm not happy with the speakers but there are some mods out there that help this considerably. Your point on this is somewhat true.
On the Camera however... You are waaaaaaaaaay off! I have personally went out and compared pics between old HTC One pics, Current S4 pictures and G2 pics. There is no comparison the G2 pics are so much better and not just by a little its significant. I couldn't believe how much better.
I loved the HTC One but the reason I got rid of it was the Camera. The pics were just bad. Look at all of the reviews on Cameras... The G2 is always up there so I'm not just dreaming this up. Here is one of the better more comparison based Reviews...
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Camera-Comparison-iPhone-5s-vs-LG-G2-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-Galaxy-S4-HTC-One-Motorola-Moto-X-DROID-Ultra_id3447
I have played around with the stock camera app and really like it and I also have used the ABetter Camera app and it's really good.
So what you're stating seems to be one of two things... You're just trolling... or you have a defective phone and need to try another one.
MaorSwan said:
I know it sounds bad. My apologies if I offended someone.
Just had to unload my thoughts.
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Go ahead and unload your thoughts in the toilet not here. I'm sure you do that every day
I don't get it. I love the G2 stock ROM. <shrug>
testnet said:
I don't get it. I love the G2 stock ROM. <shrug>
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Exactly... most of the phones that I have used lately the best setups are the Stock Rooted Roms with Xposed tweaks. I really feel that is the reason for less Custom Rom development. Really no need. Get rooted, use exposed, tweak and customize it how you like.
SooooneR said:
Well I don't usually chime in on threads like these but... anyway...
Ok I have had the HTC One (my son has it now)... Still have the S4...
I have a Sprint G2 on the latest ZVA update. Rooted with Xposed Tweaks.
I have to say that I'm not happy with the speakers but there are some mods out there that help this considerably. Your point on this is somewhat true.
On the Camera however... You are waaaaaaaaaay off! I have personally went out and compared pics between old HTC One pics, Current S4 pictures and G2 pics. There is no comparison the G2 pics are so much better and not just by a little its significant. I couldn't believe how much better.
I loved the HTC One but the reason I got rid of it was the Camera. The pics were just bad. Look at all of the reviews on Cameras... The G2 is always up there so I'm not just dreaming this up. Here is one of the better more comparison based Reviews...
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Camera-Comparison-iPhone-5s-vs-LG-G2-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-Galaxy-S4-HTC-One-Motorola-Moto-X-DROID-Ultra_id3447
I have played around with the stock camera app and really like it and I also have used the ABetter Camera app and it's really good.
So what you're stating seems to be one of two things... You're just trolling... or you have a defective phone and need to try another one.
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I used to think that too.. I've watched numerous still and video comparison videos, watches numerous samples, and I used to think that the G2's camera is the best out there.. but then I got it, started taking pics and videos, and it wasn't like what I've seen online at all.. Moreover, my brother's friend has G2 as well, checked his pics and videos, and it was the same - bad quality pics and videos.