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This thread is for a custom ROM for the FAVI Smartstick.
DISCLAIMER
I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
Please do some research of your own, if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM before flashing it!
YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and do know that I am not asking you to make the decision to flash this ROM.
If you choose to flash this ROM, do so but that's entirely your decision.
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Having said that, I am here to help and will do my best to help you if you run into trouble. All I ask is, in case of problems, kindly post as many details on the problem as you can. This will help me narrow down the problem.
About JASS -
Just Another SS Rom is my own customized rom. It uses the same ICS 4.0.4 codebase as the stock. Due to the ingrained AMLOGIC's Library, I am reluctant to modify the Kernel significantly. Rest of the Rom however has been worked on considerably. It has been oriented towards gaining maximum performance out of the single Processor on board. It also unlocks the true potential of the Mali GPU.
We all would love to see Jellybean on the Favi Smartstick. But such is not the case. The blame squarely lies at the doorstep of Amlogic the maker of the A9 processor inside. Until such time they release source for Jellybean, we will have to wait. Just so you are aware, you are not alone. The whole community of Ainol NOVO Tablet, which is based on same Processor, rebelled at this. Given they are considerably larger than the one for this stick, they had pressured Ainol into releasing JB. Ainol pointed to AMLOGIC so a petition has already been created to Amlogic. If they succeed, we shall benefit.
So is all lost till then ? Oh not at all!! Why would you want JB ? I guess for Project Butter? Or perhaps Google Now ? If so read on the Change Log.
Release 2.0 Change Log -
Say Hello to Google Now!
Welcome Project Butter! Google's Grass Roots effort geared towards smoothness and Performance. Watch this video for more.
Introducing Themed Google Apps, Say Thanks for Team Blackout for the amazing Inverted Google Apps.
Welcome the Xposed Framework. This opens the door wide for all kinds of mods tweaks and other goodies!
Gamer Oriented Performance. Quicker Disk I/O. Other Non-Gaming users should experience grass Roots performance improvement.
I am not a Graphics artist. But I have dabbled a little bit on theaming the Rom. Let me know your thoughts.
Zoom partly works. The Lens button on the lower right corner of the Mini Wireless keyboard will zoom out of any scenario. Afraid I don't have a zoom in yet.
Side note to introduction of Black GApps, From this release on, the Google apps are separately flashable zip. I will include only Google Play and Calendar in the Rom. Rest you can flash separately. You will notice a Team Black Updater app included.
This release is powered by SuperSU. So do please stop by and say thanks to its developer @Chainfire.
Please use Titanium Backup or any Root Uninstaller to remove the "Update 1.0" app. It does not play well with my code and keeps nagging about an update.
Release 1.0 Features -
Here are some of the Salient features of this Rom
Tablet UI instead of stock tabbed UI.
Numerous performance tweaks. Better memory management.
Better Wi Fi connection speed. In my case the recorded speed over WiFi jumped from 4 to 5 MBPS to 9.5 MBPS.
Better Streaming buffer. So less likelihood of Buffering while watching online video.
Dolby Digital Surround Sound with Beats Audio from this thread. Only applicable if your source file is Dolby or Netflix/hulu streams Dolby. If you like this, please thank nikhilonlive.
Adaway is included and programmed out of box. So even if you don't use the app, ads will be limited.
CIFs Manager is included in case you need to map to some windows share or a NAS.
Download & Installation -
This release will reset your SmartStick to Factory Default and remove all existing apps. So better take a Titanium Backup if you wish to conserve.
NOTE - AMLOGIC has updated Recovery. So there will be Verification failure errors if you don't follow the instructions carefully.
There are two separate sets of instructions depending on your Current firmware on the Smartstick.
Look under Settings > About > Build.
Firmware Version 1.1.2.1 & JASS 1.0 -
If you see 1.1.2.1 as the Stock firmware, then you need to download the Full Flash firmware of Smartstick.
If you have previous version of JASS Rom, you still need to update your Recovery.
Download Link here.
Unzip the contents of the downloaded Zip file completely to the Root of your Micro SD Card or a USB Flash Drive. You will notice another zip file called update.zip. Please do not unzip it. Make sure it resides on the Root of your microsd card or USB Drive then proceed to installation.
Firmware Version 1.1.2.5 -
Your Recovery is already updated. You can go ahead and use only the Update version. Download Link here.
Do not Unzip the downloaded file. Place it on the Root of your MicroSD Card or USB Flash Drive and then proceed to installation.
Google Apps -
These are completely optional. I have included essential apps into the Rom. These are the Play Store and the Calendar.
Irrespective of either case, you can use same Google Apps zip. Download Link here. Place the Zip file
Installation -
Plug in the above flash ROM device to the MicroSD slot or USB port.
Reboot into Recovery by either using Quick Boot App or by using a push pin.
Choose apply update from the SD Card or USB Stick.
For those who are coming from 1.1.2.1 version, you may see automatic update process without your input. If so, then let it complete.
For everyone else, first choose the Rom Zip. Either the update.zip or the separately downloaded JASSROMv2.0 off 1.1.2.5 zip.
Once the Rom has been flashed, you will be come back to the Recovery Screen. Now optionally choose the Gapps zip file. Proceed to flash
Reboot & Profit !!
NOTE -
Welcome Wizard does not include Logging into your Google Account. So you will have to choose Google Play Store so it will prompt you to log on the first time.
First time Boot will take considerable time as Dalvik Builds for the first time. Subsequent boots will be faster.
That's it! Enjoy & have fun. Let me know if you have any issues or feedback.
Prior Release Download -
Download Link
Correct XBMC Build for Smartstick -
If your XBMC Setup is working perfectly, do not read further.
The Official Release you see on XBMC's website is compiled for Allwinner ARM Processor based devices. Our Smartstick DOES NOT HAVE that processor. That is the primary reason of some of the issues you may be facing.
Here's a short detail on one of the reason for the problems.
The Smartstick, either the 8 GB or 16 GB is powered by AMLOGIC Cortex-A9 Processor. Now the part that typically throws people off is the ARM part. Both Allwinner Technologies as well as AMLOGIC manufacture Mobile Processor that are based on ARM Architecture. Smartstick has AMLOGIC's implementation of ARM Cortex A9. The version of XBMC you can download as of 01-10-14 is for Allwinner ARM Cortex A12.
So you need to get a build of XBMC that has the AMPLYER built for the AMLOGIC's implementation of the ARM Architecture. The PIVOS XIOS device does have the same processor as the Smartstick. So XBMC build by users of PIVOS will be suited for you. You can visit their forum for the latest builds. Here's a build that has been tested and found successful. So go ahead and give this a try. It has the AMPLAYER compiled inside. As you are aware, you are welcome to use an external player as well.
Thanks for this! Been waiting for a custom rom
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Two features
Droid VNC ! Please. I can get a view-only VNC connection to work. But I always get "Cannot create virtual input device".
I am running the 1.1.2.1 rooted build from SmartStick.info
And Google TV remote works, but most of the buttons do not work obviously. What I really need from it is a button to open the onscreen keyboard and also, to be able to type Caps (I cannot currently). App shortcuts would be nice too.
Let me know if this could be done. Thanks.
Joeviocoe said:
Two features
Droid VNC ! Please. I can get a view-only VNC connection to work. But I always get "Cannot create virtual input device".
I am running the 1.1.2.1 rooted build from SmartStick.info
And Google TV remote works, but most of the buttons do not work obviously. What I really need from it is a button to open the onscreen keyboard and also, to be able to type Caps (I cannot currently). App shortcuts would be nice too.
Let me know if this could be done. Thanks.
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As far as VNC is concerned, the IP tables are turned off partially. So making VNC or VPN work is bit of a challenge. I will see what I can do.
Google Remote's been buggy a bit. Primary reason is the TV Remote app and hardware don't integrate well. (AMLogic Kernel). I will need to include some keyboard drivers. Again will see what I can do.
Would you be kind and test out the current build ? I'd love to know first impressions...
Thanks for requests. Gives me an idea of what the users are looking for,
Yes, I would be happy to test what you've got so far
In every attempt to either get VNC user input working... or to install any functional remote... I always seem to have similar errors which I understand to be a lack of "uinput module loaded in the kernel"
Joeviocoe said:
In every attempt to either get VNC user input working... or to install any functional remote... I always seem to have similar errors which I understand to be a lack of "uinput module loaded in the kernel"
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Do please understand I did not modify the Kernel from Stock version 1.1.2.1. So these are carry forward issues from there.
I am presently working on fixing loading external modules at start. This is work in progress as listed in the Op.
Even the 1.1.2.1 stock and rooted versions don't work well with the Google TV keyboard.
It is most apparent when starting up xbmc.
I think that would be a great feature to work on.
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fritzboyle said:
Even the 1.1.2.1 stock and rooted versions don't work well with the Google TV keyboard.
It is most apparent when starting up xbmc.
I think that would be a great feature to work on.
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There are .Ko files missing in the current rom for Google Keyboard. I will have to procure the ICS compatible version in order to support. Will definitely go after it.
Thanks for the feedback.
Will you be kind enough to test how Wireless connectivity is working out ? Especially buffering when playing online content ?
So how has this rom been working? Just bought a Favi stick off of groupon and will wanna root as soon as I get it. Big thing for me will be adaway. Plan on using TSF Shell Launcher with it. Pretty excited.
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TheClsr420 said:
So how has this rom been working? Just bought a Favi stick off of groupon and will wanna root as soon as I get it. Big thing for me will be adaway. Plan on using TSF Shell Launcher with it. Pretty excited.
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This rom is Rooted. So if you flash this, you don't need to separately root. AD-Away is included in the ROM..
I'm just gonna say thank you in advance!! 1 more question for you, how is the streaming over wifi?
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TheClsr420 said:
I'm just gonna say thank you in advance!! 1 more question for you, how is the streaming over wifi?
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What if I say try it and find out ? (Amazed maybe ? :laugh
I have particularly coded for better Wi-Fi Performance. :silly:
Looking forward to it! Now let's just see how long it takes groupon to send it to me! But last question, any chance of jellybean? If not I'm totally fine with ICS and a launcher.
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TheClsr420 said:
Looking forward to it! Now let's just see how long it takes groupon to send it to me! But last question, any chance of jellybean? If not I'm totally fine with ICS and a launcher.
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Short answer. No JB right now. Besides some of the JB features require real touch screen. So not really a difference between ICS & JB.
Now that 1.1.2.5 RC is out, will you be integrating the update in this rom?
fritzboyle said:
Now that 1.1.2.5 RC is out, will you be integrating the update in this rom?
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Yes that's on cards. Especially considering the Navbar is back, I am considering skinning it and/or porting some tablet themes as well.
However, as you see, It doesn't look like Popularity peak. I had a grand total of 17 Downloads total. Given that I didn't have even as many posts here or on Favi's Forums, it doesn't seem like people even want this.
Perseus71 said:
Yes that's on cards. Especially considering the Navbar is back, I am considering skinning it and/or porting some tablet themes as well.
However, as you see, It doesn't look like Popularity peak. I had a grand total of 17 Downloads total. Given that I didn't have even as many posts here or on Favi's Forums, it doesn't seem like people even want this.
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I totally understand. I guess you would only work on it for your own interest (but you can count on me to be a beta tester)
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fritzboyle said:
I totally understand. I guess you would only work on it for your own interest (but you can count on me to be a beta tester)
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Its not that I'd do it for my own interest. I do it for "People's" Interest. This does not seem to be present. Does make one loose interest in the work. I am not saying I will stop doing it, I am just saying what I feel.
Thanks for the offer. I will certainly reach out.
Count me in.
I think the brand favi is not popular yet and uet does noy have enought developers
If you can improve it memory and update
To latest version and if it can do all the nice things like
Xbmc
Maybe preload xbmc ? Hardware player ..etc then people really interest
Related
First of all I have to thank the CM people, especially mbm, nemith, fattire and cvpcs for their work on gingerbread which helped me a lot in understanding where to look and what to patch.
The whole thing is based on the honeycomb preview emulator images, some of the B&N modules+driver, pieces from the upcoming CM7 and manual patching ARM assembler in libraries, writing ugly scripts to hack around various issues, a lot of time and many brain cells.
Use this on your own risk. I'm not responsible for any damages. This is not meant as a primetime ready rom. This is a preview after all.
The unzipped image is around 3.5gb and fits on 4GB SD cards.
MD5 (nookhoney04.img.zip) = 27396e63396a59a25f5d6fdbe0341276
http://www.rbrune.de/nookhoney04.img.zip.torrent
http://www.rbrune.de/nookhoney04.img.zip
Changelog
v04 - 02/07/2011
increased touchscreen sensitivity and made touchscreen more usable close to the borders (kernel change)
fixed heap size issue to get much more programs running (e.g. nook app, kindle app, etc.)
v03 - 02/05/2011
fixed screen turning animations and previews in taskswitcher
sd card access and secure storage support
turned off the debug screen flashes and vibrator
added display timings
sd card image now usable on 4gb cards
changed to a self compiled kernel to make these things work
reduced compressed image size
v02 - 02/02/2011
sound support
patched in some graphics improvements. Can play non-hd videos from m.youtube.com
sdcard storage
v01 - 02/01/2011
initial release
Status
What works:
Graphics acceleration
Accelerometer
Wireless!
Touchscreen
Buttons
Sleep/Wakeup
Sound
Known issues:
The accelerometer behaves funky. Will try to fix this.
The Gallery app crashes when opening an image. Not my fault, it's broken in the emulator from google too.
Doesn't work:
DSP e.g. no hardware video decoding (and will possibly never work before the AOSP release)
FAQ
Q: Why?
A: I thought it would be fun. It was and still is. And now developers have an actual device to test their apps on instead of relying on the slow emulator.
Q: How?
A: I'm planning to write a blog post. Mostly learning how Android works, debugging, patching, reusing binaries from different sources, finding easy ways to reach a goal, try and error, a lot of brain power.
Q: During boot I get stuck at the Android screen with the blinking cursor.
A: It seems to be a timing issue with mounting the partitions. Sometimes rebooting helps to get it booting. If not a different SD card might to the trick.
Q: Why is there no Market app installed?
A: There's no legal way to distribute the google apps with a ROM.
Q: Angry Birds, Nook reader, Kindle app?
A: Yes.
Q: I want to port Honeycomb to device xyz... send me the instructions how to do that now!
A: I like the 'I' in that sentence - but there are no instructions, no source, no nothing. Learn and read about Android, Android porting, making custom roms, embedded systems, ARM assembly, driver programming, programming in general, the Linux Kernel and much more - and when you're comfortable and have experience with all of that come back and do your port.
Q: Can you port Honeycomb to device xyz?
A: I don't have xyz. And even if device xyz would magically appear at my front door doesn't necessarily mean I'll have the time and motivation to port anything to it.
Q: I want to use a different kernel what changes did you make in the kernel?
A: https://github.com/rbrune/nook_kernel
Q: Where can I donate?
A: I don't want any money. If you want to put your money to good use donate to a humanitarian organization and/or the EFF.
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awesome, time to mess around with this.
Amazing work. I'm always impressed when people get an SDK image booting on a device and working properly, but this isn't even technically a tablet! It's an e-reader that was hacked. Unreal.
Keep up the good work.
deeper-blue said:
I decided to release what I have so far. May everybody have some fun with it.
But first of all I have to thank the CM people, especially mbm, nemith, fattire and cvpcs for their work on gingerbread which helped me a lot in understanding where to look and what to patch.
What works:
-Graphics acceleration
-Accelerometer
-Wireless!
-Touchscreen
-Buttons
-Sleep/Wakeup stuff
Doesn't work:
-Sound (sadly! Despite my efforts the last hours I didn't get it working properly yet)
-DSP e.g. no hardware video decoding
The whole thing is based on the honeycomb emulator images, the B&N V1.1 kernel+modules+driver, pieces from the upcoming CM7 and manual patching ARM assembler in libraries and writing ugly scripts to hack around various issues.
Use this on your own risk! I'm not responsible for any damages!
The unzipped image is around 4gb. I use it on a 8gb sd-card. In principle the image should work on a 4gb card.
http://www.rbrune.de/nookhoney01.img.zip
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Dude, you are awesome!
in b4 thread explodes
great work, its running pretty nice
I'm going to buy an 8GB card on payday. My 2GB isn't enough for this, but that's amazing. Will definitely be using a lot. Thanks a ton for all of your hard work! Expect donations.
Looks like you're gonna make the front page of engadget and the other sites again
Heres a Mirror to v04:
http://android.stolenrobot.com/NookColor/Honeycomb/nookhoney04.img.zip
Here are some basic instructions on how to flash it:
Windows Instructions
Download Win32DiskImager.exe
Download the file in the first post and extract the img from the zip
Run Win32DiskImager and make sure you pick the drive letter corresponding to your MicroSD card
Click the Folder icon and locate the img file you extracted earlier
Click on Write and then wait...
Once its done remove the SD card from your computer
Power off your nook color and insert the MicroSD you just prepared
Power On your Nook Color and wait for it to load
Welcome to Honeycomb!
This makes you wanna buy a nook! GJ!
Robotic Clone said:
Looks like you're gonna make the front page of engadget and the other sites again
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He already made it here: http://www.androidcentral.com/honeycomb-nook-now-available
cloud79 said:
This makes you wanna buy a nook! GJ!
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nooo...
This makes you wanna buy a nook...
just a quick question, does anyone know if this does fit a 4gb micro sd?
its all i have on me at the moment.
urbanengine1 said:
nooo...
This makes you wanna buy a nook...
just a quick question, does anyone know if this does fit a 4gb micro sd?
its all i have on me at the moment.
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It doest, 4gb img, formatted 4gb cards really 3.69gb, installing
Linux now just so I don't need to wait
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Wow this is just incredible, downloading it right now. - Thanks
Who would of ever thought that a book store would be the one to release the goto android tablet?
what linux users do? to use it? just like booting other OS?
thanks
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Damn it. I only got a 2gb card
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can this be chopped up and used on the htc hd2
Thanks for this bro.
10076757 said:
can this be chopped up and used on the htc hd2
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right now that seems a bit (quite a bit) pre-mature, also honeycomb is definately destined for tablets (atleast the pre-release is) so even if you could it seems that it wouldnt run (see http://phandroid.com/2011/01/28/and...ator-shows-signs-of-smartphone-compatibility/ for more info)
Dude you are so the man going to try this first thing in the morning. Words really don't express our appreciation for you.
mckooter said:
right now that seems a bit (quite a bit) pre-mature, also honeycomb is definately destined for tablets (atleast the pre-release is) so even if you could it seems that it wouldnt run (see http://phandroid.com/2011/01/28/and...ator-shows-signs-of-smartphone-compatibility/ for more info)
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If you take a look in the settings there are a lot of references to phone features but yes I do agree this is will more than likely start out on tablets and large screen phones
i just saw an update on my prime for adobe flash player. i always check the description but i figured it would just be bug fixes. this is what the changelog says on the market
This update to Adobe Flash Player 11 includes compatibility with Android 4 supported devices, performance improvements and bug fixes related to security and stability. The complete set of release notes can be found at: http://adobe.ly/s16mAX.
i checked the update date to see if i was just late to the party. it shows feb 15th. if you go to the market on pc, itll show jan 16th though.
maybe this will help out with flash in chrome beta since its now officially supporting 4.0? i have not tested this yet, literally saw this moments ago and thought to share
I think I saw that adobe literally came out and said specifically that flash was not and would not be supported with chrome beta for android 4.0. I may have misunderstood. Quite frankly I hope I did misunderstand because day don't make no sense to me at all.
sent from my tricked out Infuse 4G or Transformer Prime...
Chrome is still not supported. Adobe said it will never be supported, thus Chrome on android for the next few years, is a dead browser.
You forget, flash on android will no longer be officially supported either. Time to stop making fun of the iCrowds dead product too.
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chamberc said:
thus Chrome on android for the next few years, is a dead browser.
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WRONG.
Adobe is going to stop supporting flash for mobile devices after Android 4, so EVERY browser will probably lose flash in the coming versions of Android.
Not having flash in Chrome for Android makes sense. Why would they invest the time/money on a feature that's on its way out anyways?
http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html
Adobe's own words.
"We will no longer continue to develop Flash Player in the browser to work with new mobile device configurations (chipset, browser, OS version, etc.) following the upcoming release of Flash Player 11.1 for Android and BlackBerry PlayBook. We will of course continue to provide critical bug fixes and security updates for existing device configurations"
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/43152/flash-for-android-4-end-2011-no-flash-for-android-5
"Adobe will release one more version of the Flash Player for mobile browsing, which will provide support for Android 4.0, and one more release of the Flash Linux Porting Kit - both expected to be released before the end of this year," a company spokesperson told us."
"Adobe's statements however, also mean that future updates to the Google Android OS - Android 5.0, for example - won't be getting Flash support:
"After that time, Adobe will continue to provide critical bug fixes and security updates," the company added."
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tush said:
WRONG.
Adobe is going to stop supporting flash for mobile devices after Android 4, so EVERY browser will probably lose flash in the coming versions of Android.
Not having flash in Chrome for Android makes sense. Why would they invest the time/money on a feature that's on its way out anyways?
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The majority of content is still Flash. HTML5 will lag for years. Chrome on Android was DOA because of lack of Flash, period.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Flash is ****ing garbage. As a developer, I could list them for you, but who cares as it is dying off!!!!
Bring on HTML 5.
Moving away from flash is fine, heck I welcome it; just need a major player to dump support for it so that the internet starts to actually move away from it. If Microsoft said that it would dump flash from IE, we'd have a sure fire winner right there.
Andreas527 said:
http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html
Adobe's own words.
"We will no longer continue to develop Flash Player in the browser to work with new mobile device configurations (chipset, browser, OS version, etc.) following the upcoming release of Flash Player 11.1 for Android and BlackBerry PlayBook. We will of course continue to provide critical bug fixes and security updates for existing device configurations"
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/43152/flash-for-android-4-end-2011-no-flash-for-android-5
"Adobe will release one more version of the Flash Player for mobile browsing, which will provide support for Android 4.0, and one more release of the Flash Linux Porting Kit - both expected to be released before the end of this year," a company spokesperson told us."
"Adobe's statements however, also mean that future updates to the Google Android OS - Android 5.0, for example - won't be getting Flash support:
"After that time, Adobe will continue to provide critical bug fixes and security updates," the company added."
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cool, thank you!
Tekara said:
Moving away from flash is fine, heck I welcome it; just need a major player to dump support for it so that the internet starts to actually move away from it. If Microsoft said that it would dump flash from IE, we'd have a sure fire winner right there.
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{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Unfortunately a lot of stuff is still based on flash and on a tablet I use the desktop useragent which means any browser that doesn't have flash support doesn't have a place in my app drawer. Everyone complains about it, even websites like Android Central complain about it yet they still use it. Maybe if they would actually start using something else Flash would die. Until that happens Flash is a necessary part of a browser and any browser that doesn't have it is lacking even if it is made by the almighty Google. The mere fact that Flash will continue on desktop means that there will ALWAYS be a need for it on a tablet or a phone because people browse the same internet on a tablet or phone as they do on their home computers.
Lock-N-Load said:
Flash is ****ing garbage. As a developer, I could list them for you, but who cares as it is dying off!!!!
Bring on HTML 5.
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You're right, bring on HTML5...but a lot of news sites, facebook and other sites use flash players or embed youtube to display video content. Also: Using Flash you can use high quality h264 codec's, and this codec can not be used in HTML5 in most browsers, so you're stuck with higher bandwidth/lower quality video's then in Flash.
Thus...at the moment, I really need flash support in my browser.
yeah there are a handful of sites that use html5 video and to be honest it looks sub-par compared to the same video loaded in flash.... just go to a site using ipad useragent then go to the same site using desktop, no contest. This is main reason i don't use chrome for android.
I haven't been using Chrome as well, but I'm holding onto it. I set up my vacation in Chrome on a trial run and I loved how well it responded to mobile versions of websites such as Expedia. Very zippy.
But no desktop user agent doesn't make it a winner in my book.
Who wants to open another browser just to watch an embedded video? to bad too since chrome for android is very nice.
I hope the internet catches up.. If adobe does not want to support mobile devices then they should retire flash all together.
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Who wants to open another browser just to watch an embedded video? to bad too since chrome for android is very nice.
I hope the internet catches up.. If adobe does not want to support mobile devices then they should retire flash all together.
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Flash is ****ing garbage. As a developer, I could list them for you, but who cares as it is dying off!!!!
Bring on HTML 5.
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You can't be much of a web developer with this attitude....
HTML5 is the future, but it is nowhere near ready for prime time yet. How do you deliver videos with variable bitrates? How do you deliver videos with content protection? YOU CAN'T. There is no support for these CRUCIAL features in any of the HTML5 standards. On top of this, even the CURRENT "standard" has no definition for video codecs, and there is no single codec available that will make your videos playable in all browsers, since they are all doing their own thing.
If you want any of..
- Cross platform video
- Video that will be able to play on low-bandwidth mobile AND high-bandwidth desktop
- Video that has copyright protections. Yes I hate them as much as the next guy, but it is a simple fact that a lot of publishers will not allow content without copyright protections.
.. then you currently HAVE NO CHOICE but to use flash.
All these people trying to get rid of flash today, are putting the cart before the horse. Chrome on Android *is* going to be a non-event if it doesn't support flash because 3/4 of the web nowadays has video content that needs one or more of the above capabilities. Hell, even Google's own embedded YouTube videos will not play in browsers without flash! How dumb can you get here. They could AT LEAST be linking off to the external YouTube player for these videos.
Google needs to make the Chrome plugin API compatible with the stock Android plugin API, to get them over this hoop for the next year or so while HTML5 fills all these gaps it needs to fill before developers can move to it.
It's no developers fault that they wouldn't agree to have a single codec, it's just our job to live with it .
The bitrates and copy protection are the best points you put forward, although everyone I've seen make a stink about it both, didn't choose flash: they
chose Silverlight for their products.
Your "Cross platform" solution also tends to omit whatever platforms they feel like or offer significant issues with platforms they try to support. Enough so that for non-Windows users, no flash can often be a serious selling point for a web site versus it's competitors.
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I dont care if flash dies... But atm many many sites i use (starcraft 2 streams for example) require flash. So i need it.
If flash is soo bad and aweful why is it all over the net? I dont care about the codec behind the videos i watch, i couldnt care less I'm all for unification and making one codec as a standard so everyone can be happy... But i just want it to work. Without issues. On all my pages. Thats all i'm asking. Atm flash is doing that on my prime pretty well. So i'm fine with it. I'm fine with it when it makes room for something else that works equal or better.
Only thing the devs should try to prevent: Content that cant be used by people that want it to use but cant because of some ****ty codec or because of some company fooling around like a 4 year old.
Sorry Guys,
As there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of interest in this project and as no one stepped forward to assist, I'm afraid I'm going to have to abandon this project.
Thanks for following.
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OK Guys,
I've run into a bit of a brick wall and need some input from other developers. One of the required APKs from the Q needs a class not included along with my CM9 or Samsung stock roms. The class appears to be called "android.os.UpdateLock". So how do I go about ripping the class out of the Nexus Q rom and injecting it into CM9? Any help would be very appreciated!$!
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Hello All,
The Project
I'm looking to embark on a project to rip out the cloud function from the Q and install it on any android device. I want the cloud streaming of "Google" music and movies without the $300 expense.
The Progress
As of today I have the Nexus Q Deodexed, ripped out several apk files including the Nexus Q "Launcher" HubBroker.apk. I've merged the apks along with the fonts and lib folders of /system and my Galaxy Tab now boots up and runs like a Q. Primary issue outstanding is, the Nexus Q app won't detect the "galaxy Q" through bluetooth. I assume that some functions of the Q are sitting either within the bluetooth libs or that the Nexus Q has a specific bluetooth address that the app needs to see before detection.
My next attempt will be to try taking apart the Nexus Q apk and either changing its bluetooth search criteria or removing it completely. Second to that if anyone out there has a Q and has it setup on their phone, I could use the /data/data folder to extract more information about how it works. Or even better if someone knows what config file is generated on the actual nexus Q when it's set up for that first time.
You can already do that on most android devices. The Q just takes it to the big screen conveniently.
The function of being able to control the Google queue of device A from device B, C, D etc does not exist. Or at least I'm not aware of an app that does that.
I believe that I've tracked down the apk that does it on the nexus but I need to deodex the apps and can't seem to find a tool that works. Anyone out there deodex this rom yet?
JoeJonnyBoy75 said:
Hello All,
The Project
I'm looking to embark on a project to rip out the cloud function from the Q and install it on any android device. I want the cloud streaming of "Google" music and movies without the $300 expense.
The Progress
As of today I have the Nexus Q Deodexed, ripped out several apk files including the Nexus Q "Launcher" HubBroker.apk. I've merged the apks along with the fonts and lib folders of /system and my Galaxy Tab now boots up and runs like a Q. Primary issue outstanding is, the Nexus Q app won't detect the "galaxy Q" through bluetooth. I assume that some functions of the Q are sitting either within the bluetooth libs or that the Nexus Q has a specific bluetooth address that the app needs to see before detection.
My next attempt will be to try taking apart the Nexus Q apk and either changing its bluetooth search criteria or removing it completely. Second to that if anyone out there has a Q and has it setup on their phone, I could use the /data/data folder to extract more information about how it works. Or even better if someone knows what config file is generated on the actual nexus Q when it's set up for that first time.
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This is a pretty nice project and there is nothing like this happening in Android now, besides the nexus Q. I'd like to see a future port of it to Google TV devices
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I'd like to see a future port of it to Google TV devices
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Would love to have this functionality in an APK for me Google TV. Don't see why it wouldn't work, well other then no bluetooth on the Revue....
Still very interested in this thread regardless of GTV. I will be following your progress. Thanks!
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I'm looking for this as well.
I have 3 spare HTC EVO's, and they all have HDMI out. I would like to be able to just plug them into the TV and use my other phones to control them / play music / etc. Maybe even throw XBMC on them with the ability to control from another phone..
They're slower, and less memory..but it may be doable.
Did anyone dig into this? I'd like this for the latest port of Android for a Raspberry Pi and willing to do some of the (noob)stuff myself.
That would be awesome to use any HDMI equipped phone along with the Nexus Q functionalities. I'm really interested.
I guess the problem with the missing API is that the Nexus Q runs android JB and he tried with a cm9.
Vettekult said:
I guess the problem with the missing API is that the Nexus Q runs android JB and he tried with a cm9.
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Not true, Q runs ICS...
Let me know...
what I can do to help. If you give me a run down on what you would like me to try as far as pulling files from the q or my connected devices just shoot me a PM and i'll give it a shot. I too would love to add this functionality to my spare devices laying around.
I've been interested in this since day one as well. IT is what has me almost ready to fork out the money on more then one occasion. I have a party coming up and it would be fun to have my N7 as the Jukebox.
The Class issue, I'm not sure about. Here is some info that might get it started.: http://www.itcsolutions.eu/2011/08/...te-a-new-activity-class-with-manifest-editor/
AND:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5012004/adding-a-new-class-to-android-project
It looks like it is something created with the app. Since you cut/pasted the apk into system it may not have been installed. But I'm thinking that it is something else. Some where in the android system lib's it is probably installed. Since this was a device dedicated to this purpose, they were able to install it into the system and the app calls it. I'm slowly learning to write apps (very slowly) so I am not sure beyond this, or even about this for that matter.
I do have a question. It looks like you pulled some system apps and put them in your galaxy tablet. I think a better test would be to basically replace all the /system contents of say a N7 (galaxy tab may work) with those from the Q. Then once it works, cut down the files until it stops. Then with a list of what is needed to make it work we could get down to the nitty gritty.
My guess is some more knowledgeable devs, like those who got Google Now working, would have a better idea.
I'd love to see a third party app do the jukebox function, I think a issue is license certificate (DRM) for the multiple users. I don't understand how the user is associated/authenticated for the music. One Question is if a user Ques up music then leaves does it cause that music to not be able to be played or will it still play once it's been que'd? My guess is the app just organizes the music/user who is next then when it's their turn it streams from their device in real time... but I'm really not sure about this.
joeavery2 said:
I've been interested in this since day one as well. IT is what has me almost ready to fork out the money on more then one occasion. I have a party coming up and it would be fun to have my N7 as the Jukebox.
The Class issue, I'm not sure about. Here is some info that might get it started.: http://www.itcsolutions.eu/2011/08/...te-a-new-activity-class-with-manifest-editor/
AND:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5012004/adding-a-new-class-to-android-project
It looks like it is something created with the app. Since you cut/pasted the apk into system it may not have been installed. But I'm thinking that it is something else. Some where in the android system lib's it is probably installed. Since this was a device dedicated to this purpose, they were able to install it into the system and the app calls it. I'm slowly learning to write apps (very slowly) so I am not sure beyond this, or even about this for that matter.
I do have a question. It looks like you pulled some system apps and put them in your galaxy tablet. I think a better test would be to basically replace all the /system contents of say a N7 (galaxy tab may work) with those from the Q. Then once it works, cut down the files until it stops. Then with a list of what is needed to make it work we could get down to the nitty gritty.
My guess is some more knowledgeable devs, like those who got Google Now working, would have a better idea.
I'd love to see a third party app do the jukebox function, I think a issue is license certificate (DRM) for the multiple users. I don't understand how the user is associated/authenticated for the music. One Question is if a user Ques up music then leaves does it cause that music to not be able to be played or will it still play once it's been que'd? My guess is the app just organizes the music/user who is next then when it's their turn it streams from their device in real time... but I'm really not sure about this.
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Ok so here is some more detailed info for those of you still following the project.
HubBroker.apk is the app that is for all intents and purposes the "launcher" for the nexus Q. It will install on the Galaxy Tab and Nexus 7. It takes over your "home" and replaces it with a picture of the Nexus Q and a welcome sign. This app looks to be only the launcher as it doesn't do anything if you tap on it. Also having the app running doesn't allow the Nexus Q app (from your phone) to find the device.
So I assume that that the Q is controlled via bluetooth to get it setup and running. Including configuring the Wifi, network settings, etc. Oddly enough the app does send a request to android system to turn on the bluetooth and changes the bluetooth device name to Nexus Q.... The ... part is a odd string of characters that I assume is used in case you happen to have multiple Nexus Q's.
Now as just having the app doesn't seem to work (Phone finding the Q). I've replaced all the bluetooth libs with the ones from the Q. Still nothing. I've migrated all the other APK files and then I get FCs all over, and still no connection. I haven't tried replacing the whole system yet, but I assume the hardware differences would be to great. The only other piece of the puzzle I have yet to attempt it merging the kernels or at least the init parts of the kernel relating to bluetooth.
If you have any questions though let me know. I've been up and down this thing.
Why don't we just flash the img on an old phone and see if that works?
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Why don't we just flash the img on an old phone and see if that works?
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For that to work we'd need to get a device with similar hardware (CPU, Chipset, etc.) Not only that but it would need to have the same MTD setup unless I'm mistaken.
Actually I'm going to give that a try with the nexus 7. I'll let you know what happens, won't be till tonight though.
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For that to work we'd need to get a device with similar hardware (CPU, Chipset, etc.) Not only that but it would need to have the same MTD setup unless I'm mistaken.
Actually I'm going to give that a try with the nexus 7. I'll let you know what happens, won't be till tonight though.
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Cool, Thanks.
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JoeJonnyBoy75 said:
For that to work we'd need to get a device with similar hardware (CPU, Chipset, etc.) Not only that but it would need to have the same MTD setup unless I'm mistaken.
Actually I'm going to give that a try with the nexus 7. I'll let you know what happens, won't be till tonight though.
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Galaxy nexus has very similar hardware. Someone should try porting it.
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If someone still interested in the project, i'm very interested in it, i have a galaxy nexus (almost same hardware) so we can give it a try, im also a android developer, so if it need to build some apk for it to work, i could give a shot.
Anyway, if there is someone interested just post here and we do all we can to make that work.
edit: Only one problem, as I'm out of USA, i need the q apk to test if it will connect or not. I cant download from play store.
I'm sure there will be so many people interested in it. I just think that not to many of them enter this category on forum
I also need the nexus q image so I can flash it. I tried searching it but didnt find
Recently inherited a Nook Tablet 16GB with OS 1.4.3.
Did some searching and Phone Arena http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Barnes---Noble-NOOK-Tablet_id6548 lists it as Android (2.3).
Am not familiar with TI OMAP4 SoC.
Since Android is now at 6, I wonder what the latest OS can be used with it?
Appreciate comments and suggestions!
Thanks
Ken
Should add am wondering what is the latest Android OS I can use before the TI OMAP4 SoC becomes noticeably Slow.
Ken
KenithO said:
Should add am wondering what is the latest Android OS I can use before the TI OMAP4 SoC becomes noticeably Slow.
Ken
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Slow compared to what? The original 2.3? That I can't speak to since I never did much with my original (ebay) tablet but turn it on and flash CM 10.2.1 (after having it repartitioned at my local B&N store). I ran CM 10.2.1 for a little over a year and was fairly happy with its performance but I have to add that it has been my only tablet experience (if you don't count my much-modified Nook Simple Touch!) and the rest of my experience is with desktop and laptop Windows machines.
I think if you intend to use the tablet for memory and graphics intensive gaming, you may be disappointed. Not sure since I'm not a gamer. I use mine for reading news, watching movies and/or streams, listening to audiobooks, doing crossword puzzles, email, some limited internet browsing, running Kodi, etc. I'm not sure I'd call the tablet response "sprightly", but I'm comfortable with the performance. I don't need to grab a cup of tea while something starts up
I'm not sure about CM 11 (that's roughly KitKat). I skipped over that one to investigate CM 12.1 (Lollipop) for just about a week now and have noticed some strain on the hardware resources and a change in response. But it's still settling in and things change a little from day to day so I'll give it a few more weeks before I decide whether to return to 10.2.1 or try 11.
So....it's largely what you'd expect. This is a piece of hardware that was designed as mainly a reader with a few bones thrown in to tantalize people into thinking they were getting a little something extra--which they were. But that was in the days of Android 2.3 and it really wasn't designed to be a super-duper multimedia tablet. That said, there are a lot of people who still use them and spend a lot of time developing CM for them.
As a 2.3 device it's pretty limited (except as a reader, if you like the backlight) so I'd say give at least CM 10 a try and see what you think. Just keep in mind its hardware origins.
Hi nmyshkin,
1st thanks for your comments! Will try to explain in more detail.
I would like to use my Nook Tablet as a audio/video player (No games) so like to install VLC media player or similar.
"Slow compared to what?" To my experience installing newer Windows OSes on same hardware. Have had best results using apps like nLite or with WinXP using Hiren's MiniXP to reduce all the Win Bloatware!
Since you are much more experienced concerning the Nook Tablet do you have a blog concerning your OS upgrade experience? Also what Audio/Video Player App(s) do you use?
Ken
KenithO said:
Hi nmyshkin,
1st thanks for your comments! Will try to explain in more detail.
I would like to use my Nook Tablet as a audio/video player (No games) so like to install VLC media player or similar.
"Slow compared to what?" To my experience installing newer Windows OSes on same hardware. Have had best results using apps like nLite or with WinXP using Hiren's MiniXP to reduce all the Win Bloatware!
Since you are much more experienced concerning the Nook Tablet do you have a blog concerning your OS upgrade experience? Also what Audio/Video Player App(s) do you use?
Ken
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If you're interested in mainly audio/video then the NT should serve you well. I hear you about trying to put newer (read: hungrier) operating systems on older machines. The CM people have done a great job but every piece of hardware has its limits. For your purposes I would think that CM 10 would be fine, but you could certainly try 11 or (maybe) 12. The advantage to choosing a more up-to-date operating system is that more apps are available to you. The catch is that the PlayStore will often say an app is not compatible since it sees the device as a Nook Tablet and has no idea that you have upgraded the OS. So you sometimes have to be creative in obtaining apps and sideloading them. As for bloatware, the principal source is the GoogleApps! When I did my CM 10 flashing there was just the typical package but there are now mini, micro, nano, etc., versions which narrow down the list of GApps to bare essentials. I used the nano set on my CM 12.1 and don't miss anything.
I've attached a screenshot of my current Home running CM 12.1. I have a second screen which is just a few utilities (file manager, print, wi-fi transfer, etc.) but you can get an idea of what kind of stuff runs well on the tablet with a newer OS. I've not used VLC player on the NT but I imagine it would be fine. MX Player works well for me and it also serves as my music player. Since I grew up in an era when the album was king, I don't keep separate songs and use minimal tags. If you're a more tag-driven music listener then you'd want something else. CM 10 comes with a tag-friendly music player but if that didn't suit your needs, there are plenty of apps to try in the PlayStore.
Anything that MX Player can't handle (haven't found it yet) Kodi would be able to deal with. I guess you could use Kodi exclusively as a media player but the screen interface is a little trying for a small screen.
I'm "experienced" only to the extent that I've had a lot of help with problems In my view you can't do better than the instructions given by user digixmax. His installation instructions for CM 10 are here. For CM 11 or 12 they are here. If you read through both threads you'll find plenty of panic-stricken posts by yours truly
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The catch is that the PlayStore will often say an app is not compatible since it sees the device as a Nook Tablet and has no idea that you have upgraded the OS. So you sometimes have to be creative in obtaining apps and sideloading them.
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FWIW I usually can download and install from an alternate source such as 1MobileMarket (http://market.1mobile.com) or Amazon appstore the very same app that Google Playstore deem incompatible with my Nook.
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FWIW I usually can download and install from an alternate source such as 1MobileMarket (http://market.1mobile.com) or Amazon appstore the very same app that Google Playstore deem incompatible with my Nook.
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Yes, or you can try here: http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/
Most common apps can be downloaded to your PC from there and then side loaded. Supposedly they will also fetch less common ones if you ask.
nmyshkin,
Thanks again for your detailed comments!
Also while I am new to Nook Tablet have been using Android cell phones for a while. My 1st Android phone was a Kyocera Hydro http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Kyocera-Hydro_id7096
Wanted to root it but after reading "!!WARNING!! there is currently no working recovery, beware of the changes you make to your phone, modify at your own risk" (am a believer in Murphies Law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law) decided not to take the chance.
Recently I got an and hoped to root it but found "Alcatel A460G Rooting Trouble - a lost cause" http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/alcatel-a460g-rooting-trouble-pointers-t3261024
so am waiting for someone to do this first.
While I have never Rooted an Android Device did learn early to side load, usually using http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/
Have recently found mention of another Android app download site APKPure https://apkpure.com/ but do Not know how trustworthy it is?
The only thing I know about "CyanogenMod" is what I read at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod
Since my Nook Tablet is still original will volunteer to use any test apps to determine its speed.
Also since it does not have a Camera do not understand the need to go above KitKat (4.4). If there is some other reason would be interested.
"When I did my CM 10 flashing there was just the typical package but there are now mini, micro, nano, etc., versions which narrow down the list of GApps to bare essentials. I used the nano set on my CM 12.1 and don't miss anything." Nano is for me! What about Pico? Also found Pico(Uni)?
Where do you normally download them? Is it http://www.androidrootz.com/2015/03/download-android-44x-kitkat-pa-gapps.html
Question: What do you gain by using CyanogenMod 12.1, based on Android 5.1?
Ken
Hi digixmax,
"I usually can download and install from an alternate source such as 1MobileMarket (http://market.1mobile.com) or Amazon appstore the very same app that Google Playstore deem incompatible with my Nook."
Thanks for the tip!
Do you know of any posts concerning the reliability of alternate sources?
Ken
KenithO said:
nmyshkin,
Thanks again for your detailed comments!
Also while I am new to Nook Tablet have been using Android cell phones for a while. My 1st Android phone was a Kyocera Hydro http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Kyocera-Hydro_id7096
Wanted to root it but after reading "!!WARNING!! there is currently no working recovery, beware of the changes you make to your phone, modify at your own risk" (am a believer in Murphies Law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law) decided not to take the chance.
Recently I got an and hoped to root it but found "Alcatel A460G Rooting Trouble - a lost cause" http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/alcatel-a460g-rooting-trouble-pointers-t3261024
so am waiting for someone to do this first.
While I have never Rooted an Android Device did learn early to side load, usually using http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/
Have recently found mention of another Android app download site APKPure https://apkpure.com/ but do Not know how trustworthy it is?
The only thing I know about "CyanogenMod" is what I read at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod
Since my Nook Tablet is still original will volunteer to use any test apps to determine its speed.
Also since it does not have a Camera do not understand the need to go above KitKat (4.4). If there is some other reason would be interested.
"When I did my CM 10 flashing there was just the typical package but there are now mini, micro, nano, etc., versions which narrow down the list of GApps to bare essentials. I used the nano set on my CM 12.1 and don't miss anything." Nano is for me! What about Pico? Also found Pico(Uni)?
Where do you normally download them? Is it http://www.androidrootz.com/2015/03/download-android-44x-kitkat-pa-gapps.html
Question: What do you gain by using CyanogenMod 12.1, based on Android 5.1?
Ken
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Yes, it's best to do some homework on a device before purchase if you plan to root it or install alternate ROMS.
Sources for the various GApps packages can be found in the instruction thread I referred you to earlier.
Even CM 10 includes camera and Bluetooth fluff on the NT-- not functional, of course. Theoretically running a more up-to-date OS extends the useful life of the device. App development eventually leaves older devices in the dust, although not completely. I still have a generous complement of apps on my NST and that runs Eclair!
Anyway, the chief advantage of an OS like CM is that it is fluid, with people working to improve and enhance. Also, it overcomes some of the limitations imposed by B&N when they designed their "front end".
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Nano is for me! What about Pico? Also found Pico(Uni)?
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Info on different package types:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/reborn-gapps-5-t3074660
Where do you normally download them?
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http://opengapps.org/#
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KenithO said:
Do you know of any posts concerning the reliability of alternate sources?
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Not off-hand.
digixmax,
Thanks for the links! Somehow I thought the various builds were CyanogenMod and searched for "CyanogenMod Pico" but found nothing.
Looked over "Info on different package types" http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...pps-5-t3074660 and am interested in PICO MODULAR PACKAGE ANDROID 5.1 DOWNLOAD LINKS (~43MB).
Question: Is a Pico Modular package available for Android 4.4.4 KitKat? Am guessing No.
To restate I would like to use my Nook Tablet 16 Only as a Multimedia Player and for reading DOCs and PDFs.
Since I only side load apps is it possible to eliminate Google Play Store, Google Calendar Sync, and the following Play Store application and leave only the core Google system base?
[GAPPS][DAILY] Open GApps for Android 5.1,5.0,4.4; arm,arm64,x86,x86_64
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3098071
[GAPPS][DAILY] Open GApps for Android 5.1,5.0,4.4; arm,arm64,x86,x86_64
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Am trying to do my homework so have been searching for early articles about the Nook Tablet.
Found "How To Sideload (Almost) Any Android App On The Nook Tablet" by K. T. Bradford http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/11/16/how-to-sideload-android-apps-nook-tablet/
Am wondering if this Nook originally had OS 1.4.0? Does anyone know how to find out? If yes is there an easy way to go back to it? That way I would get a baseline. If no I hope someone has found a workaround!
The 1st app I would like to install is a File Manager and would appreciate any recommendations.
Since OS 1.4.3 is listed as Android 2.3 checked Google Store for FMs that will run on this or older and found X-plore File Manager 3.78 (2.3), File Manager (File transfer) by Cheetah Mobile Tools (Varies with device?),
SD File Manager 1.0.9 by MobilDev (2.3), File Manager by 1.1 by IT STARS (2.3), File Manager 1.31 by xFrame Labs Tools (2.3)
Hi champ1919,
Thanks for the link! I have a lot of catching up to do concerning Open GApps!
Liked DL page http://opengapps.org/ for giving a quick overview of all the options!
Saw there is an X86 ver for 4.4 to 6.0 Nano. Am wondering if I can install these on a std 32bit PC?
Have been searching and found "Advanced Features and Options", "Removal of Stock applications", and "Universal Application Removals"
https://github.com/opengapps/opengapps/wiki/Advanced-Features-and-Options These give you a lot of options!
Any good tutorials?
OK guys, I'm updating a 16GB Nook tablet, it has 1.4.3.
From what I've pieced together, I need to create a bootable TWRP sdcard and flash the root file then flash the TWRP 3.0.0-0(the acclaim works for the old Nook?) Then flash CM12 or CM13?
I'm starting from scratch and these guides are rather old so I'm trying to make sure I use the most up to date recovery and ROM available but with everything spread through different guides its a little confusing to decide which steps and files I need and which ones I don't considering I'm trying to go from stock to TWRP and CM12/CM13 in as few steps as possible.
Droidriven said:
OK guys, I'm updating a 16GB Nook tablet, it has 1.4.3.
From what I've pieced together, I need to create a bootable TWRP sdcard and flash the root file then flash the TWRP 3.0.0-0(the acclaim works for the old Nook?) Then flash CM12 or CM13?
I'm starting from scratch and these guides are rather old so I'm trying to make sure I use the most up to date recovery and ROM available but with everything spread through different guides its a little confusing to decide which steps and files I need and which ones I don't considering I'm trying to go from stock to TWRP and CM12/CM13 in as few steps as possible.
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You can look at this thread for combinations of files that worked. I'm in there later in the mix and that's how I ended up with CM 12.1.
Looking at the SD card I prepared I can see everything I used except for the TWRP version because it was renamed. At this point I would just use one of the versions mentioned in the thread I just referenced for someone who succeeded at 12.1 (or if you want 13.0, there is a separate thread for that). Just know that TWRP gives error messages during the preparation process (at least my version did--mentioned in the thread) and these can be ignored.
The rest of the files I used with success:
cm-12.1-20151117-SNAPSHOT-YOG7DAO1K6-acclaim.zip
flashable_CWM_6.0.4.8_chrmhoffmann.zip
open_gapps-arm-5.1-nano-20160109.zip
FWIW, the file size on the TWRP version I used shows as 7516 KB.
Hello Ken,
All CMs are somewhat slower that stock Android from BN. You will also loose the proper behavior of tablet when you connect cable to charger - stock OS wakes tablet from sleep when tablet gets connected to charger, CM does not, so you will have to wake it up first, otherwise tablet will not charge. Then, under every CM build RAM (under 'About Tablet') is stated 672 Mb, but under stock OS RAM is 1024Mb. Don't know is B&N trick us or not.
Next, if tablet left asleep for some prolonged period its time/date gets frozen, so when you wake it up it will show some wrong time/date and it does not auto-update on wake up, so you will have to manually update it by going to proper menu in Settings.
Tablet definitely lags compared to stock (in my opinion), especially when apps upgrade themselves and/or you turn on the WiFi - it's total hell. Also, apps like FB can take forever to install.
I tried CM12.1 but decided to get back to CM10.2.1. I also use alternative launcher, cause native one works in landscape mode and nothing made it to run in portrait.
Btw, in newer CMs you will loose access to some of the internal storage and to recover it - you will have to repartition your tablet.
Hope my info helps a bit.
PepeladZ said:
Hello Ken,
All CMs are somewhat slower that stock Android from BN. You will also loose the proper behavior of tablet when you connect cable to charger - stock OS wakes tablet from sleep when tablet gets connected to charger, CM does not, so you will have to wake it up first, otherwise tablet will not charge. Then, under every CM build RAM (under 'About Tablet') is stated 672 Mb, but under stock OS RAM is 1024Mb. Don't know is B&N trick us or not.
Next, if tablet left asleep for some prolonged period its time/date gets frozen, so when you wake it up it will show some wrong time/date and it does not auto-update on wake up, so you will have to manually update it by going to proper menu in Settings.
Tablet definitely lags compared to stock (in my opinion), especially when apps upgrade themselves and/or you turn on the WiFi - it's total hell. Also, apps like FB can take forever to install.
I tried CM12.1 but decided to get back to CM10.2.1. I also use alternative launcher, cause native one works in landscape mode and nothing made it to run in portrait.
Btw, in newer CMs you will loose access to some of the internal storage and to recover it - you will have to repartition your tablet.
Hope my info helps a bit.
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This further reinforces my feeling that the CM flashings are somewhat idiosyncratic (at least on the Nook Tablet). I've run both 10.2.1 and 12.1 (current) on my tablet and never saw the clock update issue described. In 12.1 the AM/PM indicator had update issues, but I solved that by disabling the cLock widget and installing Chronus from the PlayStore.
Sluggish is as sluggish does, I guess. Running CM 12.1 is no more sluggish than my cheap KitKat LG smartphone I use as an mp3 player. I have to agree that sometimes the tablet just has a bad time of things. This happened a lot after my initial 12.1 installation and there were many odd things that needed fixing. I just kept at it until it is finally running as well as 10.2.1---even better since it now boots reliably every time, whereas with 10.2.1 there were many times when I would boot to a black (backlit) screen. So now I shut it down every night and boot up the next morning without any problem.
The moral seems to be that you just need to try. Keep a backup of the stock system in case you have "buyer's remorse". Don't give up right away. Reflash if things are just a mess, but if only a few things are wonky, work with the tablet for a week or so. It seems to get better after each reboot. Decide for yourself whether the reported sluggishness of the tablet is something that you notice for the apps you are using. A lot of it is about expectations.
nmyshkin said:
I've run both 10.2.1 and 12.1 (current) on my tablet and never saw the clock update issue described. In 12.1 the AM/PM indicator had update issues, but I solved that by disabling the cLock widget and installing Chronus from the PlayStore.
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The thing is that I tried one of the latest 12.1 with the same results. I don't think the clock problem comes from cLock widget but is related to deep sleep mode or something like that.
nmyshkin said:
This happened a lot after my initial 12.1 installation and there were many odd things that needed fixing. I just kept at it until it is finally running as well as 10.2.1---even better since it now boots reliably every time, whereas with 10.2.1 there were many times when I would boot to a black (backlit) screen.
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Well, I switched to CM since 10.x and followed along till 13.x came out. So I was on 12.1 for quite some time and tried fresh builds quite frequently, doing 'full reset' install. Btw, I've never had unreliable boots.
nmyshkin said:
So now I shut it down every night and boot up the next morning without any problem.
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Yes, turning it off is the only way to keep clock right.
After looking at the Index thread, it seems as if Lollipop 5.1 is the latest version of Android that is safe for an HP Touchpad. Am I understanding this correctly?
Also, if I install that one, does it wipe out WebOS? I guess it doesn't matter if so because from what I'm reading, it's completely outdated and no longer supported. Also, I'm locked out and cannot remember the passcode anyway.
No version of Android is supported on the TouchPad, therefore there isn't a 'safe' version. You'd have most success updating to current (7.1.2+) firmwares. As a TouchPad modder, these versions are the fastest and most supported by Play Store. The initial process of installing 'moboot' for the first time can be daunting, so look into using which ever version of Android is used in jcullins' Toolbox tutorial. Once moboot and TWRP are installed, you can pretty much try whichever rom you want, as this device is near impossible to brick.
Good luck!
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No version of Android is supported on the TouchPad, therefore there isn't a 'safe' version. You'd have most success updating to current (7.1.2+) firmwares. As a TouchPad modder, these versions are the fastest and most supported by Play Store. The initial process of installing 'moboot' for the first time can be daunting, so look into using which ever version of Android is used in jcullins' Toolbox tutorial. Once moboot and TWRP are installed, you can pretty much try whichever rom you want, as this device is near impossible to brick.
Good luck!
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Can you please link me to a/the tutorial for the version you suggested?
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Can you please link me to a/the tutorial for the version you suggested?
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Try the below link which points to the updated guide on how to install Android on the HP Touchpad.
If you are a newbie on this stuff, you would be a good test on how well this guide is written and if it needs any tweaks to help people follow it with accuracy.
I mean I tested it myself, but I am a "seasoned veteran" LOL, I installed KitKat from this guide and also Nougat the version that was recommend to you. Its all there.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp...-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
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Try the below link which points to the updated guide on how to install Android on the HP Touchpad.
If you are a newbie on this stuff, you would be a good test on how well this guide is written and if it needs any tweaks to help people follow it with accuracy.
I mean I tested it myself, but I am a "seasoned veteran" LOL, I installed KitKat from this guide and also Nougat the version that was recommend to you. Its all there.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp...-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
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1) So I got it to install (Evervolv Nougat) and my feedback on the tutorial is that it's a bit of information overload. Not sure how easy it would be to simply it though.
2) I could not find a link for Boost (what is that?) or the Keyboard fix. Can you assist (assuming they can be installed retroactively)? The keyboard, for instance, works in Chrome but does not appear on the home screen when tapping the Google Search Bar.
3) And maybe this should be #1...but this Nougat seems to slow things down considerably. I tried installing the game Run Race 3D for instance and it was unplayable. Would an older Android version speed things up or am I just dealing with old hardware that can't keep up?
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1) So I got it to install (Evervolv Nougat) and my feedback on the tutorial is that it's a bit of information overload. Not sure how easy it would be to simply it though.
2) I could not find a link for Boost (what is that?) or the Keyboard fix. Can you assist (assuming they can be installed retroactively)? The keyboard, for instance, works in Chrome but does not appear on the home screen when tapping the Google Search Bar.
3) And maybe this should be #1...but this Nougat seems to slow things down considerably. I tried installing the game Run Race 3D for instance and it was unplayable. Would an older Android version speed things up or am I just dealing with old hardware that can't keep up?
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Hello AshleyQ,
Well along with the step by step, I added a bit of instruction. For example you said, "I could not find a link for Boost (what is that?) or the Keyboard fix." So I will add a little more "overload" of instruction for what Boost Optimized settings are, in my OP at a later date.
But as per your performance. The reason its slow is because you did not load the following ZIP's in the exact sequence the instructions say. I realize its because you could not find the links for boost and keyboard. If you go to HP_TOUCHPAD's "Master List of ZIPs" in the OP of the guide, or I put it below for convenience, you will see the green list below for Nougat 7.1.2, and find the links you were missing earlier.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-optimize-android-swap-t3901773
and once you click link, hit "page down" 3 times and it will get you to the "Master List of Zips"
Evervolv 7.1.2 Android Nougat
1.Click Here to Download the ROM
2.Click Here to Download the Boost Optimized settings with preset CPU Frequency
3.Click here to download Google Open Apps
Select Platform ARM, Android 7.1 and the Variant you want, Pico is recommended
4.Click Here to Download the Keyboard Fix
As per the Boost Settings always start with 1728, and after that is working good, you can try to flash a higher frequency for speed, and you don't have to re-flash everything just the Boost Zip ( like 1782, or 1836 ) file from TWRP recovery. If it freezes screen just go back and flash lower frequency.
So click each link in the OP, and download the said 4 ZIP files, and follow the Original Post again, with these 4 ZIP's ready to go!!! Do not do this retroactively, but start again from scratch.
And you will be able to play the "Run Race 3D" game!!
Look at this link below, a non-gamer like user HP_TOUCHPAD from Florida, played the game Hearthstone!!! I believe you will be able to play "Run Race 3D", but we would love to hear how your results go, and we will be here to help you get a smooth running touchpad that is 100% Android, with SWAP!!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/how-to-play-hearthstone-blizzard-t3924170
@HP_TOUCHPAD
Using these downloads from your Master List of Zips, and running my install method.
AshleyQ the OP'er wants to play Run Race 3D game. Now I am not a gamer at all, but you tried with Hearthstone so I will try now, when I download Run Race 3D game I get the attached errors. But I can run YouTube fine, everything seems fine until I run that game ( Run Race 3D ). What are these errors telling you? I waited till SWAP was over 400 Mb, and I used various boost files, first 1782, 1836 and 1728, but with no luck.
I should point out that I had about 10 minutes where I was running the game with smoothness and doing the jumps and winning the races, but then HP Touchpad started to get sluggish with little mini freezes and it threw my timing of the jumps off and I started to lose, then the error came.
Evervolv 7.1.2 Android Nougat
1.Click Here to Download the ROM
2.Click Here to Download the Boost Optimized settings with preset CPU Frequency
3.Click here to download Google Open Apps
Select Platform ARM, Android 7.1 and the Variant you want, Pico is recommended
4.Click Here to Download the Keyboard Fix
p.s. the 2nd pic is kind of hard to read, I just wanted to show that I ran "running services" and it shows 558 MB of SWAP.
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@HP_TOUCHPAD
Using these downloads from your Master List of Zips, and running my install method.
AshleyQ the OP'er wants to play Run Race 3D game. Now I am not a gamer at all, but you tried with Hearthstone so I will try now, when I download Run Race 3D game I get the attached errors. But I can run YouTube fine, everything seems fine until I run that game ( Run Race 3D ). What are these errors telling you? I waited till SWAP was over 400 Mb, and I used various boost files, first 1782, 1836 and 1728, but with no luck.
In the Developers options --.>> Running Services shows Device Memory been use but does not show the swap.
The FREE in gray color shows the available free RAM, but is not the size of the swap file, for example the system can report 485 MB Free RAM and only use 60 MB of swap.
The best way to see how much swap is been use is by connecting the Tablet to PC using usb, open a terminal window and using adb shell then type
free -h
I should point out that I had about 10 minutes where I was running the game with smoothness and doing the jumps and winning the races, but then HP Touchpad started to get sluggish with little mini freezes and it threw my timing of the jumps off and I started to lose, then the error came.
Keep in mind that the free version of this game have Ads, that is a service that is running in the background and when is time to display the ads is another process getting activated. Android is constantly launching background process it does not seem to care if the device is been use, it will take priority.
Evervolv 7.1.2 Android Nougat
1.Click Here to Download the ROM
2.Click Here to Download the Boost Optimized settings with preset CPU Frequency
3.Click here to download Google Open Apps
Select Platform ARM, Android 7.1 and the Variant you want, Pico is recommended
4.Click Here to Download the Keyboard Fix
p.s. the 2nd pic is kind of hard to read, I just wanted to show that I ran "running services" and it shows 558 MB of SWAP.
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The reason that I mentioned to wait until it shows 400 MB of free RAM (is not swap) is that Android finishes launching all process and the system is finally "IDLE", it takes that long for Android to finally settle and the Tablet ready to be use..
I just installed the Game, it only took about 73 MB of swap space, but I am testing on DU 9 using completely different settings. I am not a gamer, but it looks very simple, graphics are minimal, it does shows a lot of ads and even launching the Play store to install more games. The issues that I am having is that there is no minimal specification for any App, it only shows the Android version and it will depend on the Device. It will help if an App shows the minimal RAM requirement to run, then the settings can be apply to provide that amount, but is all about guessing. I am not done testing my next settings, I will use this game as a tester.
I applied some settings and tried the game and I won! is very easy to play on the Tablet with a bigger screen but it could be a real challenge on smartphone.
Attached is the screenshot of my victory.
Is work in progress, but the game should play with no issues once I finish the settings.
So what do you guys recommend that I do? I just used Run Race 3d as an example of the sluggishness and really just want an Android version and setup that will give me the best overall (meaning fastest) performance...with games/browsing/etc.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
I applied some settings and tried the game and I won! is very easy to play on the Tablet with a bigger screen but it could be a real challenge on smartphone.
Attached is the screenshot of my victory.
Is work in progress, but the game should play with no issues once I finish the settings.
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Congratulations on the RR3D win! I won a few times myself and the man did a little dance on the screen, but then my HPTP got sluggish and I kept crashing into the walls because when I pressed the screen the man would not jump like I told it too. In fact my setup got to the point I could not even take a screenshot it was too sluggish.
But if @ashleyquicik is reading this, please be patient it seems like HP_TOUCHPAD is working on some Universal performance settings that will work for all ROMs, past present and future. In the meantime you could load JC Sullins KitKat 4.4 ROM you will find that link in the 2nd Master List of zips ( RolandD's ) on below install method. I find for YouTube and Podcast apps this current version of Nougat is fine, but once I start playing "Run Race 3D" it gets sluggish. Be sure to follow directions in flashing the ZIP's in order.
HP_TOUCHPAD is now using the Run Race 3D game as a testing app, so you can be sure sooner or later this game will be working, not to win at the game, but to win and beat the sluggishness!!
This is the classic case of MAN vs. MACHINE!!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp...-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
DoubleStuff said:
Congratulations on the RR3D win! I won a few times myself and the man did a little dance on the screen, but then my HPTP got sluggish and I kept crashing into the walls because when I pressed the screen the man would not jump like I told it too. In fact my setup got to the point I could not even take a screenshot it was too sluggish.
After the first stage of the game was over and I selected to play again, then what seems to be an Advertisement came up, but it was only a black screen, then the image show trying to trick me on touching to install another game, there was no way of getting out of it, then the Play store got launch by itself and then I had to close both. There is a difference when you the user open many apps and place them on the background and when two apps are running at same time, is too much to ask for a 1GB RAM device.
But if @ashleyquicik is reading this, please be patient it seems like HP_TOUCHPAD is working on some Universal performance settings that will work for all ROMs, past present and future. In the meantime you could load JC Sullins KitKat 4.4 ROM you will find that link in the 2nd Master List of zips ( RolandD's ) on below install method. I find for YouTube and Podcast apps this current version of Nougat is fine, but once I start playing "Run Race 3D" it gets sluggish. Be sure to follow directions in flashing the ZIP's in order.
I will provide the settings but I do not want to send the wrong signal as it will allow for any apps, specially games to play. Android's apps are extremely buggy even on the stock devices, just search for an issue and you will find how many users are experiencing the problem and none are related to the HP TP, just regular devices.
HP_TOUCHPAD is now using the Run Race 3D game as a testing app, so you can be sure sooner or later this game will be working, not to win at the game, but to win and beat the sluggishness!!
As you have tested yourself the game will play, you won. It is a very basic game with low graphics., but it provides HUGE Ads and also any other apps that you have installed on the Tablet will impact performance. The sluggishness comes as background services that becomes active, that is why as soon as you connect the Tablet to WiFi, it will slow down, just check Running Services and you see them all, opening and closing plus the google apps updates, it will happen even if the CPU is at full capacity and low ram available, is the way Android works.
This is the classic case of MAN vs. MACHINE!!!
I will call it MAN vs Google!
Here is the explanation for that, I will try to keep it short.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp...-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
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Android Apps are written in Java, Google does not want to pay license feeds as is offering the OS for free and making revenue on the data it collect from the devices for Ads placement, each device is a Digital Billboard that Google charge for displaying time to companies promoting their services or products.
If you have experience running a Virtual Machine on the Desktop, then it should be easy to understand the concept. Android apps are running inside an open source virtual machine " Dalvik" to run the java code and be display on the screen. To virtualize an OS on the desktop if the PC has 6 GB of RAM, and the guess OS requires a minimum of 4 GB to run, then it must be configure and there will only be 2GB left on the Host OS. Then the speed will degrade for low RAM resources and the HOST can not be use for nothing else. Once the Guess OS has done its job, it can be close down and the Host OS will function normally. But if the correct amount of RAM is not allocated to the Guess it will not boot, or shutdown. That is the same that happen in HP TP with Android, and those settings are apply manually in the build.prop by the manufacture. Everything in Android must be configure manually as the OS is too basic and primitive all settings are device specific according to screen resolution, size and amount of RAM ( Memory ).
Hopefully I explained it or compare it, easy to understand.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
Android Apps are written in Java, Google does not want to pay license feeds as is offering the OS for free and making revenue on the data it collect from the devices for Ads placement, each device is a Digital Billboard that Google charge for displaying time to companies promoting their services or products.
If you have experience running a Virtual Machine on the Desktop, then it should be easy to understand the concept. Android apps are running inside an open source virtual machine " Dalvik" to run the java code and be display on the screen. To virtualize an OS on the desktop if the PC has 6 GB of RAM, and the guess OS requires a minimum of 4 GB to run, then it must be configure and there will only be 2GB left on the Host OS. Then the speed will degrade for low RAM resources and the HOST can not be use for nothing else. Once the Guess OS has done its job, it can be close down and the Host OS will function normally. But if the correct amount of RAM is not allocated to the Guess it will not boot, or shutdown. That is the same that happen in HP TP with Android, and those settings are apply manually in the build.prop by the manufacture. Everything in Android must be configure manually as the OS is too basic and primitive all settings are device specific according to screen resolution, size and amount of RAM ( Memory ).
Hopefully I explained it or compare it, easy to understand.
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So having said that...and to sort of reiterate some of what I wrote in my last post, what is arguably the best ROM/procedure to have the best overall performance?
ashleyquicik said:
So having said that...and to sort of reiterate some of what I wrote in my last post, what is arguably the best ROM/procedure to have the best overall performance?
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It all depends of the intended use from the user.
Does it needs to have a working:
Bluetooth ?
Reliable WiFi ?
Camera ?
Android compatibility with a special App ?
Android Versions are different and that sets the ROM apart, it will not be comparing Apples to Apples from different versions.
If you check my guide I have optimized 7.1.2, 8.1 and 9 to use swap and all those three versions works very similar.
One of the reason that I will be doing an Universal Setting and retro-fit older ROM, is to show that the Tablet will work similar with different ROMs.
I should probably make a version that is completely optimized only for games, that will required to delete unnecessary Android system process and RAM could be about 600 MB Free.
Does it needs to have a working:
Bluetooth ? Yes
Reliable WiFi ? YES
Camera ? Yes
Games really aren't necessary because I'm giving this tablet to someone that won't be gaming.
ashleyquicik said:
Does it needs to have a working:
Bluetooth ? Yes
Reliable WiFi ? YES
Camera ? Yes
Games really aren't necessary because I'm giving this tablet to someone that won't be gaming.
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I started reading your thread from the beginning as I though that it was all about the 3d racer game.
You have a Tablet that would like to give to someone that has WebOS installed and also another Android version on it, which is 7.1.2 and you found it to be slow.
My recommendations for a newest ROM is the same as everyone on here recommended Evervolv 7.1.2 Android Nougat. You could use older ROMs but some basic apps may not work.
Previously @DoubleStuff provided the information on how to installed Evervolv 7.1.2 and also provided the link to my guide that with instructions.
If you flashed the Automatic_Wipe_All, then the Tablet is 100 % Android with swap and WebOS is gone, which will provide more storage space on the Tablet.
As per my guide the proper way to flash all the zip files provided is as follow:
Evervolv 7.1.2 Android Nougat
1.Click Here to Download the ROM
2.Click Here to Download the Boost Optimized settings with preset CPU Frequency
3.Click here to download Google Open Apps
Select Platform ARM, Android 7.1 and the Variant you want, Pico is recommended
4.Click Here to Download the Keyboard Fix
The Boost optimized settings link (2) will give you the option to download 5 different CPU frequency, start with 1728 after you set up the tablet then try a higher speed, the fastest is 1836, if the Tablet boot into Android after flashing 1836 and use some apps and does not freeze then keep using it, if it reboots or freeze then flash 1782 if still not stable keep flashing lower frequencies.
To have a properly working camera, install this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=en_US
If you have any issues just ask.
ashleyquicik said:
Does it needs to have a working:
Bluetooth ? Yes
Reliable WiFi ? YES
Camera ? Yes
Games really aren't necessary because I'm giving this tablet to someone that won't be gaming.
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Well as I talked about in another thread where HP_TOUCHPAD wants to start retrofitting old ROM's with SWAP and Universal boost settings, there is a ROM that most agree is the "greatest ROM of all time", but its an old version of Android called KitKat 4.4.4 by JC Sullins and you can find the link here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712680
Now one version later Lollipop 5.1 ( or 12.1 CM ) this same developer JC Sullins created a Lollipop ROM, that HP_TOUCHPAD is working on retrofitting: As @HP_TOUCHPAD said in a previous thread about this retrofit.
"...I Applied all optimization to CM 12.1, but testing. The only problem that I am experiencing is if I open about 8 to 9 apps and then press the square, next to home, it will reboot. I do not know if is the ROM or my settings.
But overall works great with swap. Will be posting new optimized settings, soon...." -HP_TOUCHPAD
And if I am not mistaken he may have finished it, but its not posted yet in his MASTER ZIP's list
What I recommend you do AshelyQ because its so easy and quick to install ROMs with our install methods, I would install KitKat above and test it for a day or two, then install another one maybe 7.1.2 and again test it, and maybe even another. And then you can pick the one you think meets you or your friends needs the best and stick with that ROM.
I am going to install HP_TOUCHPAD's retrofitted Lollipop ROM ( when HP_TOUCHPAD posts the settings ) and try to run "Run Race 3D" on it....I will report back with my findings.
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To have a properly working camera, install this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=en_US
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Hmm ... I still get critical camera errors, even with the Open Camera app, even after a couple of reboots.
Do Not Touch said:
Hmm ... I still get critical camera errors, even with the Open Camera app, even after a couple of reboots.
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The stock camera App of 7.1.2 works, but colors and orientation shows incorrectly, but it works on Open Camera.
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I am going to install HP_TOUCHPAD's retrofitted Lollipop ROM ( when HP_TOUCHPAD posts the settings ) and try to run "Run Race 3D" on it....I will report back with my findings.
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Well I have not tested JC Sullins Lollipop ROM with Universal settings yet, but I just installed JC Sullins 4.4 without swap or any special settings, just the ROM and the GApps, and I am happy to report the "Run Race 3d" game went well, I made it to the BONUS Level and earned 146 coins with lots pomp and circumstance, and was getting adds everytime I completed a race, but I waited 5 seconds then pressed the "X" and things went well. So now I am very curious how these old "great" Android versions will work with HP TOUCHPAD'S Universal settings.
3 days ago I was not a gamer, but I guess I am now!!! LOL The HP Touchpad even had enough memory to take a screen shot.