Hi guys, anyone knows how to modify the actual value temperature alert popup (currently 45°C) in a MT65xx CPU based phone.
I have this issue because during the recharge of the phone my temps will reach about 40-45°C and I receive the alert.
Regards
m4x23 said:
Hi guys, anyone knows how to modify the actual value temperature alert popup (currently 45°C) in a MT65xx CPU based phone.
I have this issue because during the recharge of the phone my temps will reach about 40-45°C and I receive the alert.
Regards
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My advice is don't use your phone while charging. Till 45° hm..can pass, but over 50° don't risk specially if you have lithium polymer battery
rakijaman said:
My advice is don't use your phone while charging. Till 45° hm..can pass, but over 50° don't risk specially if you have lithium polymer battery
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Tnx for the advice, in the rear of the battery (Li-Ion) there is an alert advice to do not exceed 60°C to avoid damages and explosions.
Unfortunatly, when I'm in car and use the navigation plus GPS/3G info data, I need to attach the 12v plug to avoid battery drain.
m4x23 said:
Hi guys, anyone knows how to modify the actual value temperature alert popup (currently 45°C) in a MT65xx CPU based phone.
I have this issue because during the recharge of the phone my temps will reach about 40-45°C and I receive the alert.
Regards
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have you already solve your concern? i can't find solution regarding this mattet. i want to remove the temperature warning alert.
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Hello all, I am new here and have been browsing through threads to get a feel. My question is in regards specifically to use with the HTC EVO View 4g Tablet. What would be the best way to use the alarm clock function while the device is on overnight? Should I just keep the charger plugged in or will this affect battery effectiveness in the long run? Also how, if at all, would Dock mode come into play? Help here would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello all, I am new here and have been browsing through threads to get a feel. My question is in regards specifically to use with the HTC EVO View 4g Tablet. What would be the best way to use the alarm clock function while the device is on overnight? Should I just keep the charger plugged in or will this affect battery effectiveness in the long run? Also how, if at all, would Dock mode come into play? Help here would be greatly appreciated.
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I wrote a little post on the issue of batteries here which answers your question. There is more advice here.
From the perspective of battery usage, it's generally less good for the battery to be in use and plugged in. The reason why is that:
Some portable devices sit in a charge cradle in the on position. The current drawn through the device is called the parasitic load and can distort the charge cycle. Battery manufacturers advise against parasitic load because it induces mini-cycles. The battery is continuously being discharged to 4.20V/cell and then charged by the device. The stress level on the battery is especially high because the cycles occur at the 4.20V/cell threshold.
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I do have one hypothesis, and that is that it's more okay to leave the device docked and plugged into your USB, because the amperage for the USB charging is much lower.
However, what I can't comment on is how much harm this does in the long term.
Hi XDA
I have some questions regarding the gs3 battery.
1) Does overnight charging the battery harm the battery?
2) To which percentage should the battery percentage drop before charging it?
3) How can it be that my phone is awake often, dropping the battery more than normal, while I always close all apps and innternet?
Thanks in advance and good sources for the answers are welcome.
Grz Mutn
mutn10 said:
Hi XDA
I have some questions regarding the gs3 battery.
1) Does overnight charging the battery harm the battery?
2) To which percentage should the battery percentage drop before charging it?
3) How can it be that my phone is awake often, dropping the battery more than normal, while I always close all apps and innternet?
Thanks in advance and good sources for the answers are welcome.
Grz Mutn
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1. I have never had an issue charging overnight infact this is the only time I charge my phone. I may get corrected hear but I think once the battery is full the charging stops.
2. You can charge your battery at any percentage a common misconception is that this harms batteries, that was true in the old days with but with the newer batteries these days I dont think it is. Also You should not let your battery run right down everytime and your device switch off before charging. I normally do this once a month but everyone has a different opinion with batteries. I am not saying I am right and they are wrong because I no expert these comments are purely my own opinion.
3. Even with apps closed there could be an app still causing a wakelock if you install BBS (BatterBatteryStats) you should be able to see what is causing your battery drain.
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1. I have never had an issue charging overnight infact this is the only time I charge my phone. I may get corrected hear but I think once the battery is full the charging stops.
2. You can charge your battery at any percentage a common misconception is that this harms batteries, that was true in the old days with but with the newer batteries these days I dont think it is. Also You should not let your battery run right down everytime and your device switch off before charging. I normally do this once a month but everyone has a different opinion with batteries. I am not saying I am right and they are wrong because I no expert these comments are purely my own opinion.
3. Even with apps closed there could be an app still causing a wakelock if you install BBS (BatterBatteryStats) you should be able to see what is causing your battery drain.
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Hmm I guess I found the app that causes awake time (groupon). Thank for your other opinions.
mutn10 said:
Hmm I guess I found the app that causes awake time (groupon). Thank for your other opinions.
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Also be careful with Facebook App if you have it this has been known to cause wakelocks also
Charging ...
mutn10 said:
Hi XDA
I have some questions regarding the gs3 battery.
1) Does overnight charging the battery harm the battery?
2) To which percentage should the battery percentage drop before charging it?
3) How can it be that my phone is awake often, dropping the battery more than normal, while I always close all apps and innternet?
Thanks in advance and good sources for the answers are welcome.
Grz Mutn
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1. Depends on your definition of "harm" - ANY form of charging will "eat" a little out of the "battery health" (for phones, notebokks and anything else) - however I believe that a well-planned charging strategy would be a great thing for a phone! And one at night seems to be perfect
The major trick IMHO is to avoid recharging with high currents - I believe the stand-alone recharger is pushing about 1000 mA while you will get like 475 mA from the USB port of a computer - that last one will generate a slower but MUCH HEALTHIER recharge (and will also avoid overheating). In order to control that you can run a custom ROM in the phone (in such a ROM for instance with the Siyah kernel it is possible to set those values above - and many other - with a program called STweaks). Of course that a smaller recharging current will mean a longer time to 100% but overnight that should not be a problem.
So the bottom line is that you should recharge as needed, and if possible plan for overnight recharging with the smallest current and at the longest possible interval (I try to do it every 2nd or 3rd night - but that is rarely possible - I need to get one of those 4200-4500 mHz batteries ).
2. Lithium can be generally recharged from any percentage - HOWEVER it is recommended to avoid always recharging from the same (high) percentage - that is a well-known problem with notebook batteries that are kept always plugged-in and are going 100% -> 95% -> 100% -> 95% -> 100% forever - that generates an aging much larger than expected, and some companies like Lenovo have a special mode of battery recharging strategy specifically to avoid that.
That being said I doubt that you keep your phone in the charger at all times, so that should be less of a problem. However I would avoid recharging too often from above 80-90%.
3. I understand you have found your "bad app"
A bit of a spaniard in the works here .
Just a warning we have had a number of posts >>> phone on charge all night dead phone in the morning .
Why i dont know but all have been motherboard jobs .
In theory it should turn off at full charge .
jje
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Is there a way around the Facebook App such as turning off notifications, or will it cause wakelocks no matter what? (which means only solution is to remove facebook) ?
thanks.
Hi,
So I've been using an app called Battery Charge Limit from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit) to limit my battery charging upto 80% using root access. This was to increase the longevity of the battery.
Worked fine on Oreo, but now for some reason it doesn't seem to stop the battery charging at 80% on Pie. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and has found a fix/workaround?
I know its probably better just to ask the app developers, but I was just wondering if anyone else is having this issue as I also have access to an S7 Edge on OneUI Pie and it doesn't seem to have any issues.
Thanks
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Hi,
So I've been using an app called Battery Charge Limit from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit) to limit my battery charging upto 80% using root access. This was to increase the longevity of the battery.
Worked fine on Oreo, but now for some reason it doesn't seem to stop the battery charging at 80% on Pie. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and has found a fix/workaround?
I know its probably better just to ask the app developers, but I was just wondering if anyone else is having this issue as I also have access to an S7 Edge on OneUI Pie and it doesn't seem to have any issues.
Thanks
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The xda thread for it is here: https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/to...2&share_fid=3793&share_type=t&link_source=app
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DBZLegend9000 said:
Hi,
So I've been using an app called Battery Charge Limit from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit) to limit my battery charging upto 80% using root access. This was to increase the longevity of the battery.
Worked fine on Oreo, but now for some reason it doesn't seem to stop the battery charging at 80% on Pie. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and has found a fix/workaround?
I know its probably better just to ask the app developers, but I was just wondering if anyone else is having this issue as I also have access to an S7 Edge on OneUI Pie and it doesn't seem to have any issues.
Thanks
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I do not see any sense in such charging settings, the V30 with 100% notification is still charging for 30 minutes with low current and then only reaches a physical 100% battery which is to save the battery. As the program disconnects charging at 80% it will be physical about 70% = 2/3 for battery use. You probably don't discharge the battery less than 30% because you will "damage it". Then use 1/3 charging it 3 times at the same time as I do ... So think about whether after these 4 years you won't have a more dead battery than I, kids, I charge 15> 100%.
Yes, the answer is simple, charge up to 100% and disconnect immediately, just like LG limits charging to physical 95% so that the battery does not lose capacity.
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I do not see any sense in such charging settings, the V30 with 100% notification is still charging for 30 minutes with low current and then only reaches a physical 100% battery which is to save the battery. As the program disconnects charging at 80% it will be physical about 70% = 2/3 for battery use. You probably don't discharge the battery less than 30% because you will "damage it". Then use 1/3 charging it 3 times at the same time as I do ... So think about whether after these 4 years you won't have a more dead battery than I, kids, I charge 15> 100%.
Yes, the answer is simple, charge up to 100% and disconnect immediately, just like LG limits charging to physical 95% so that the battery does not lose capacity.
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Fair enough. I simply limit it to 80% as from what I understand the majority of battery wear happens between 80-100%, even if it is charging at a much lower voltage and current.
Even if the phone doesn't show the true values of physical charge, a physical 70% charge is enough to get me through the day and I don't worry too much about how much battery I drain so only put the phone back to charge when it's at ~5%. So only charge the phone once a day.
Even if it may/may not make a difference to longevity it's worth a shot. At best it'll improve the lifespan of the battery, at worst it'll do nothing with normal degradation.
Maybe in a year or so when 80% charge can't get me through the day I might drop the limit. For now it seems worth a try.
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Fair enough. I simply limit it to 80% as from what I understand the majority of battery wear happens between 80-100%, even if it is charging at a much lower voltage and current.
Even if the phone doesn't show the true values of physical charge, a physical 70% charge is enough to get me through the day and I don't worry too much about how much battery I drain so only put the phone back to charge when it's at ~5%. So only charge the phone once a day.
Even if it may/may not make a difference to longevity it's worth a shot. At best it'll improve the lifespan of the battery, at worst it'll do nothing with normal degradation.
Maybe in a year or so when 80% charge can't get me through the day I might drop the limit. For now it seems worth a try.
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Just for your information, deep discharges are also not very good for Lion batteries. Discharging to 5% regularly is as bad, if not worse, than charging to 100%. The optimal is to always keep the battery level between 40%-80%.
I am not so sure if that will make any visible real world difference since most people don't tend to keep their phones for too long. And since that limits the effective battery capacity too much, I would suggest that you don't worry too much about charging/discharging too much.
DBZLegend9000 said:
Hi,
So I've been using an app called Battery Charge Limit from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slash.batterychargelimit) to limit my battery charging upto 80% using root access. This was to increase the longevity of the battery.
Worked fine on Oreo, but now for some reason it doesn't seem to stop the battery charging at 80% on Pie. I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this issue and has found a fix/workaround?
I know its probably better just to ask the app developers, but I was just wondering if anyone else is having this issue as I also have access to an S7 Edge on OneUI Pie and it doesn't seem to have any issues.
Thanks
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To answer your original question, the same feature works as intended on a different app (AccuBattery) on my phone, stock unrooted open EU H93030b. So it looks like your problem is not the OS but the app.
PIntus_aleborn said:
Just for your information, deep discharges are also not very good for Lion batteries. Discharging to 5% regularly is as bad, if not worse, than charging to 100%. The optimal is to always keep the battery level between 40%-80%.
I am not so sure if that will make any visible real world difference since most people don't tend to keep their phones for too long. And since that limits the effective battery capacity too much, I would suggest that you don't worry too much about charging/discharging too much.
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Yeah I am aware that discharging to 5% can be just as bad for the battery. But even if I charged to 100% I would still use the phone till there was only 5% left. So I just thought might as well try to limit the charging and see if it makes a difference on the long run, since 80% gets me through a the day anyway.
PIntus_aleborn said:
To answer your original question, the same feature works as intended on a different app (AccuBattery) on my phone, stock unrooted open EU H93030b. So it looks like your problem is not the OS but the app.
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Thanks for your help! I did try out Accubattery and yes it detects when the battery is at 80%. Just wish it could set limits with root access as well.
In any case, I seem to have found a solution now. There's a Magisk module called Advanced Charging Control (ACC). This seems to work well and limits charging to 80%. It also has a companion app that you can use to set your own preferences and limits.
I've linked the relevant thread below, might be useful to others.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-magic-charging-switch-cs-v2017-9-t3668427/amp/
DBZLegend9000 said:
Yeah I am aware that discharging to 5% can be just as bad for the battery. But even if I charged to 100% I would still use the phone till there was only 5% left. So I just thought might as well try to limit the charging and see if it makes a difference on the long run, since 80% gets me through a the day anyway.
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Your doing more worse then good letting the phone go to 5%. That app will not do ANYTHING for you.
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I find ACC works well at stopping the chargeing at a certain % level.
Hoiwever then while still connected to usb it draws power from the battery - not good.
Battery charge Limit on Oreo stoped charging and used then power from usbb onwards while still connected.
I wonder how ACC stops the charging on Pie, i.e. with what control file. Has anyone got an idea?
I foudn out that the switch is /sys/devices/platform/lge-unified-nodes/charging_enabled. This starts/stops the chargi8ng.
Unfortunately, on Pie, when this is set to disabled from then on power ist not drawn from the charger but from the battery.
Is there any other switch / wax to prevent this?
Ich want charging to be stopped and from then on power to be taken from the charger while connected to it.
Here are the paths to the CTRL files that I've found to work with the two ROMs that I've used recently:
Havoc-OS wired and wireless: /sys/devices/platform/lge-unified-nodes/charging_enable (no 'd' on the end, unlike what bladecgn gave)
Lineage OS wired: /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled
Lineage OS wireless: /sys/class/power_supply/dc-wireless/charging_enabled
One quirk that I've noticed is that, on wireless, the app ignores the "Recharge below" setting and starts recharging as soon as the percentage drops just 1% below the max (ex. if the max is 80% and the charge drops to 79%, it'll immediately recharge back to 80%, even if "Recharge below" is set at 76%).
For the record, the ROM that I'm using is LineageOS 17.1, so the app definitely still works on Android 10.
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I foudn out that the switch is /sys/devices/platform/lge-unified-nodes/charging_enabled. This starts/stops the chargi8ng.
Unfortunately, on Pie, when this is set to disabled from then on power ist not drawn from the charger but from the battery.
Is there any other switch / wax to prevent this?
Ich want charging to be stopped and from then on power to be taken from the charger while connected to it.
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Were you able to figure out how to use only power from the charger instead of the battery, @bladecgn?
Osprey00 said:
Here are the paths to the CTRL files that I've found to work with the two ROMs that I've used recently:
Havoc-OS wired and wireless: /sys/devices/platform/lge-unified-nodes/charging_enable (no 'd' on the end, unlike what bladecgn gave)
Lineage OS wired: /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled
Lineage OS wireless: /sys/class/power_supply/dc-wireless/charging_enabled
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Stock Pie doesn't have the /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled file, but it does have /sys/class/power_supply/battery/battery_charging_enabled. Would that work?
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Stock Pie doesn't have the /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled file, but it does have /sys/class/power_supply/battery/battery_charging_enabled. Would that work?
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I don't know. You'll just have to try. It's a process of trial and error to find which path works with which ROMs.
I've been experiencing this for a wile now. In the beginning, when the battery hit 10%, my Le Max 2 would get really slow, basically unusable. Now it's staring around 15%. I've tried multiple ROMs and it persists through all of them. Does anyone share this problem, or know if there's a fix to it?
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I've been experiencing this for a wile now. In the beginning, when the battery hit 10%, my Le Max 2 would get really slow, basically unusable. Now it's staring around 15%. I've tried multiple ROMs and it persists through all of them. Does anyone share this problem, or know if there's a fix to it?
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What rom do you use?
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What rom do you use?
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I'm using Lineage OS 17.1 august 28
Heyyo @joaoVi, this is the expected behaviour as Qualcomm intended it to be. It is NOT recommended to let your battery drain below 10%. Qualcomm has a safety put in place in the kernel that disables the big cores, so that only the little cores are running. This is to try and prevent further battery wear.
The safest ranges for a battery is 40% to 80%. Anything higher or lower will cause extra wear to the battery charge cycles which is why I also never recommend charging a device with a poly-lithium battery overnight, as charging it to 100% and then letting it sit at 100% causes a lot of battery wear.
Linus Tech Tips has a good video on this subject too
It's winter and the 4 year old battery cannot supply enough voltage to the CPU so the big cores turn off. You can verify this behavior by CPU monitoring quick settings tile built in most ROMs
It gets more difficult for a battery to supply higher energy at lower tempreatures (winter!)
Hi,
Do you know if it is possible to limit the maximum charge level, like it's possible on Samsung devices? If it's not out of the box, is it possible to achieve that on a rooted device?
It's quite useful feature to preserve your battery life.
Thanks a lot!
All I found in the stock OS is "Optimized Charging" and "Overcharge protection".
First one learns the patter of your charging, pauses at 80% and continues to the 100% some minutes before you usually unplug.
2nd one, quote: limits charging when your device has been plugged in continuously for 3 days.
I dont feel like I need either, the phones charges to 0-100% in ~30 minutes with the charger it came with and the battery lasts for 1.5-2 days with moderate use and turning off services you dont need like bluetooth and localization.
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Hi,
Do you know if it is possible to limit the maximum charge level, like it's possible on Samsung devices? If it's not out of the box, is it possible to achieve that on a rooted device?
It's quite useful feature to preserve your battery life.
Thanks a lot!
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It's called protect battery, under battery settings.
@Hamid Chikh, doesn't really work with charing the phone in the car for example. I just want a limit, that would the battery never exceed given percentage.
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@Hamid Chikh, doesn't really work with charing the phone in the car for example. I just want a limit, that would the battery never exceed given percentage.
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It works with any charger, wired or wireless. Yes that how it works
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It works with any charger, wired or wireless. Yes that how it works
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Motorla doesn't have this option. Did you just share a screenshot from Samsung device?
For that, you need magisk, with ACC (advanced charge controller) module installed
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Motorla doesn't have this option. Did you just share a screenshot from Samsung device?
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Yes it's a Samsung device