Greetings, _I have a AT&T atrix 4g, with 2.3.6. OTA updated to 4.5.145 so i can´t unlock the boot loader, is there a way i can install TWRP to my phone, the only thing i've been able to do is to root it, but not unlocking the boot loader, so i'm trying to ake a nandroid backup to use freely the pimp my rom utility, and restore the backup in case something goes wrong, Thanks in advance!!!!
Well why do you think unlocking the bootloader is even needed? You cannot do anything but root if you don't unlock the BL. No way to install any recovery.
However, where did you get this that .145 cannot be unlocked? Unlockability has nothing to do with the firmware version. If you really cannot unlock (tried and failed), it is for different reasons.
Svereal people has told me that this update came with many security fixes, and one of them is for unlocking the boot, that if i try, mos likely it's gonna end in hard bricking my phone via RSD lite that i guess is the only way to flash the unlock sbf..... the point is that soooo many people has told me this, that now i'm very afraid to do it, everyone's has said that this compilation and because it's a AT&T phone, it can't be unlocked the boot.....
Wich could be the consequences if i try to unlock the boot and fail??? (Please, i know that you guys know a lot about this, so i want to be very sure that there's no really high risk of bricking just for the firm, or for the fact that is AT&T)
I'm trying to unlock the BL to put th CM7.....
Here you go.
diablogomez said:
Svereal people has told me that this update came with many security fixes, and one of them is for unlocking the boot, that if i try, mos likely it's gonna end in hard bricking my phone via RSD lite that i guess is the only way to flash the unlock sbf..... the point is that soooo many people has told me this, that now i'm very afraid to do it, everyone's has said that this compilation and because it's a AT&T phone, it can't be unlocked the boot.....
Wich could be the consequences if i try to unlock the boot and fail??? (Please, i know that you guys know a lot about this, so i want to be very sure that there's no really high risk of bricking just for the firm, or for the fact that is AT&T)
I'm trying to unlock the BL to put th CM7.....
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Old post, but here you go. I installed the 4.5.145 OTA update, then followed the guide written by "thekooliest" over on the atrixforums.com to unlock the bootloader after rooting. As always, no responsibility blah, blah. Make sure you post any further basic questions on that forum instead of here. They are better at dealing with new people. Good luck. As for a ROM, I'd recommend Epinter's 10.1 or NottAch if you want to have full functionality. If you want to overclock epinter's rom, use fech's 1.2 Kernel. Faux's 1.3 and 1.45 are on the Aroma Installer included in Nottach.
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Just curious if the new 2.3.4 gingerbread OTA can be unlocked using pudding. I'm having to get my atrix replaced via warranty and if the replacement happens to come with gingerbread already on it i want to know if i'll be able to unlock it or if i'll be stuck using p-roms.
You should be able to unlock it with pudding since its the same version of gingerbread that we have. Also, don't flash any sbf files (except pudding) because it has the new bootloader and you'll hard brick it if you do.
You can unlock with pudding and fastboot BUT there's a high chance you'll soft brick first with 0x1000 ... all you need to do is get into fastboot mode and redo the oem unlock command.
mysticdrew said:
You can unlock with pudding and fastboot BUT there's a high chance you'll soft brick first with 0x1000 ... all you need to do is get into fastboot mode and redo the oem unlock command.
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Alright, just to be absolutely, completely, all the way, 101% sure: does this OTA have ANY bootloader restrictions, be they a brick or non-unlockable bootloader. Has anybody tried to unlock the bootloader and run a custom ROM on the AT&T OTA? I just want to be able to run custom ROM's down the road (as in full ROM's, as in Cyanogenmod).
Do the OTA and never, never go back to any older stock version via RSD. Or you'll brick your phone.
@Chairsofter1138: the ota bootloader is locked. flash the pudding to unlock.
Alright, has anyone actually attempted to unlock the OTA via the pudding method? I'm being extra cautious here because I don't want to be stuck with a permanently locked down phone. Does it matter, then, if I use Kenthepenns (sp?) installation method or OTA straight from AT&T/ Motorola?
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Alright, has anyone actually attempted to unlock the OTA via the pudding method? I'm being extra cautious here because I don't want to be stuck with a permanently locked down phone. Does it matter, then, if I use Kenthepenns (sp?) installation method or OTA straight from AT&T/ Motorola?
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Yes everyone has been unlocking via pudidng because it's the same leaked version that has been out for the past couple weeks.
Yes Going to this OTA will make a brickable phone. You WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DOWNGRADE via traditional SBF.
This is the question everyone has been asking on every thread and the devs aren't answering.
I am locked and stock on 1.83. My fuse HAS not been burnt. I want to be
1. On Gingerbread
2. Unlocked
The problem is that all the current gingerbread sbfs said you had to be ALREADY unlocked to flash them, so I don't know how anyone has been testing this OTA with a locked bootloader. If you had the new Gingerbread, you were already unlocked, is how I understood it.
Questions in follow up to the above:
1. If I OTA before unlocking, what do I flash afterwards to unlock? Saying 'pudding' because there's 10,000 files in that thread, including links to an 'unlocker.sbf', as well as a full sbf operating system. What specific file?
2. Lots of new builds say they have an 'unlocked bootloader' built in, but nobody can figure out what that means. Does that mean you can flash them without being unlocked to unlock? What do you need to do to unlock after you flash them?
3. If I unlock now at stock 1.83, and take the OTA, what happens, is the bootloader locked again? I know OTA installs a new bootloader.
Please someone help me understand. There's too much hard bricking and misinformation out there on all the dev threads. What's true (and please tell us how you know).
I noticed everyone talking about the OTA. I saw on the Moto site that the new update is only available OTA but there's a link for download for the file "Blur_Version.4.5.91.MB860.ATT.en.US". Can anyone confirm that this can be installed without brick on an unlocked bootloader? I've seen other threads stating so but they're not really clear on what's being said.
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This is the question everyone has been asking on every thread and the devs aren't answering.
I am locked and stock on 1.83. My fuse HAS not been burnt. I want to be
1. On Gingerbread
2. Unlocked
The problem is that all the current gingerbread sbfs said you had to be ALREADY unlocked to flash them, so I don't know how anyone has been testing this OTA with a locked bootloader. If you had the new Gingerbread, you were already unlocked, is how I understood it.
Questions in follow up to the above:
1. If I OTA before unlocking, what do I flash afterwards to unlock? Saying 'pudding' because there's 10,000 files in that thread, including links to an 'unlocker.sbf', as well as a full sbf operating system. What specific file?
2. Lots of new builds say they have an 'unlocked bootloader' built in, but nobody can figure out what that means. Does that mean you can flash them without being unlocked to unlock? What do you need to do to unlock after you flash them?
3. If I unlock now at stock 1.83, and take the OTA, what happens, is the bootloader locked again? I know OTA installs a new bootloader.
Please someone help me understand. There's too much hard bricking and misinformation out there on all the dev threads. What's true (and please tell us how you know).
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+1 to everything this guy said..There is a ton of guests in this forum wondering the same **** too. Devs are doing a fantastic job, but us end users (including myself) don't really have a sense of direction right now.
So I started with an official 2.2.2 firmware from Bell. I think this thread might serve 2 purposes, because I had a really hard time figure out all the steps from start to finish as they were in separate threads. So if someone starts off with stock 2.2.2 and wants to get a custom rom, that's the way I manged to do it. Second purpose of this post is for me to find out how I could return my Bell Atrix to stock OTA and what it would imply. Thanks a lot in advance for your inputs.
-I rooted with SuperOneClick
-Unlocked BL with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
-Installed Tenfar's CWM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138541
-Verified which kernel to use D00 or 1100 and dled it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169409
-Then I flashed Alien Rom Build #2 with Tenfar's CWM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186537&highlight=bell
-Then tried to do the D00 Intl kernel in CWM without rebooting, that didn't work ... so I rebooted and went directly to fastboot and installed the kernel as the instructions say in the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169409
-Then booted for the first time, rebooted, and flashed the ninja theme in CWM
What I want to know is if ever I wanted to go back to stock with the new GB OTA from Bell 0.37.23 what would it imply:
-Rooting is still available, but is unlocking ? and could I still unlock the APN menu.
-My BL would get relocked? What would that imply for future updates.
Also if I decided to take that route; I would
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15975211#post15975211
2) Download the new OTA and install
3) Root and unlock...
Thank you for you input,
NiK
You just install the gobstopper. There is no new bell gb OTA from my understanding. Only the new ATT gb ota.
The gobstopper puts you on full 2.2.2.
Thought the latest OTA was for GB .. oh well ... what you be the implications of going back to stock ... would that affect the unlocked BL, would it relock it, would it make future mods more difficult of impossible .... I come from iPhone world so updating a firmware would have a lot of future implications ...
yes gobstopper would put you back to stock 2.2.2 and re-lock the bootloader...so yes you would have a boring ass atrix again...the only time (personal opinion) i would ever revert back is for warranty purposes. This way they can't tell you f'ed with your phone.
and yes it would make future mods impossible....basically all the mods and stuff out there right now would be useless to you...in fact if you did want to mod your phone you would only be able to deodex and theme..with a few other tiny modifications...that aren't even supported by the dev' who made them anymore because everyone is using GB now lol...i'm not sure why anyone would want to go back except for warranty purposes or they are selling to someone who is new to android and doesn't want to hack their phone...
/rant
cheers bro =)
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yes gobstopper would put you back to stock 2.2.2 and re-lock the bootloader...so yes you would have a boring ass atrix again...the only time (personal opinion) i would ever revert back is for warranty purposes. This way they can't tell you f'ed with your phone.
and yes it would make future mods impossible....basically all the mods and stuff out there right now would be useless to you...in fact if you did want to mod your phone you would only be able to deodex and theme..with a few other tiny modifications...that aren't even supported by the dev' who made them anymore because everyone is using GB now lol...i'm not sure why anyone would want to go back except for warranty purposes or they are selling to someone who is new to android and doesn't want to hack their phone...
/rant
cheers bro =)
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Hi,
That is incorrect. Once you are unlocked, you are always unlocked. You either have a bootloader that knows what unlocked means or you don't.
In this case you can always go back to IHOP to be unlocked. There is no permanent relock.
The point in going back to stock is to get OTA updates from Bell, not warranty claims because if you can get back to stock you don't need a warranty. It's when your phone is locked up that you want to use your warranty and by then it's too late.
Cheers!
Ok so once the bootloader has been unlocked, whatever happens I can't relock it even when applying an OTA upgrade that upgrades the bootloader ? That sounds like the exact opposite of what happened with iPhones or PS3s or whatever electronics that needed to be jailbroken, unlocked of whatever.
NiKTaMeR said:
Ok so once the bootloader has been unlocked, whatever happens I can't relock it even when applying an OTA upgrade that upgrades the bootloader ? That sounds like the exact opposite of what happened with iPhones or PS3s or whatever electronics that needed to be jailbroken, unlocked of whatever.
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A fuse gets blown in this case. oem lock does nothing.
What you can do is install a bootloader that doesn't know about unlocking or that that paticular fuse means it's supposed to be unlocked, So the unlocked message doesn't show up on the main screen during boot and fastboot no longer works for signed partitions. However, restoring the unlocked bootloader restores the unlock by checking the blown fuse, and oem unlock no longer has to be done.
Cheers!
Thanks a lot to everyone for your replies.
P.S NF I'm waiting to try your gobstopper 2.3.4 stupid slow upload speeds
NiKTaMeR said:
Thanks a lot to everyone for your replies.
P.S NF I'm waiting to try your gobstopper 2.3.4 stupid slow upload speeds
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It's done if you were waiting.
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Hello everyone. I am new to the world of android, but I'm a quick enough learner. Here is my specific problem:
I have an AT&T Atrix 4g. It is currently superuser rooted. It is currently running Android ROM 2.3.4.
Shortly after rooting the device, I downloaded ROM Manager and successfully installed through the application Clockwork Recovery. I tried to select the option to back up the current ROM (the stock android) on my SD card.. however, during the load screen, I got an error message stating
"Failed to boot 2
Starting RSD protocol support"
So doing some research, I came upon the conclusion that the reason I can't backup or really do anything with ROMs is that I needed an unlocked bootloader.
I went to Atrix4ghacks and followed the instructions on how to unlock bootloader and install permanent recovery.
This is the critical part: When I entered into the command prompt "fastboot oem unlock", instead of proceeding normally I got the return message:
"OEM unlock is not implemented"
Again, did a google search and read that Android 2.3.4 on Atrix 4g does NOT allow unlocked bootloaders.
So, the questions that I have that result from this are:
1.) Can someone here confirm that, in fact, I am unable to unlock the bootloader on my phone?
2.) If so, is there a viable workaround that is both reasonably safe and not overly complicated? Please note that I have no backup in case something goes wrong, leading me to
3.) Is there a way to backup my stock 2.3.4 ROM without an unlocked bootloader?
4.) Can I revert safely to an older android version that supports unlocked bootloaders?
5.) Can you actually install new ROMs without an unlocked bootloader?
6.) Am I totally screwed?
HUGE THANKS to anyone who actually bothered reading this, and even more thanks to anyone who can answer/point me in the right direction. Much appreciated!!!
thats becouse u havent flashed yet the bootloader ill give a post related to this and esay way to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
and you CANT go back to 2.2 or 2.3 u can hard brick your phone
tufo430 said:
thats becouse u havent flashed yet the bootloader ill give a post related to this and esay way to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
and you CANT go back to 2.2 or 2.3 u can hard brick your phone
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Thanks a ton for that link. I'm sorry to ask once again, but I'm very wary of possibly bricking my phone... so I must ask: Is your solution possible with 2.3.4? Or will the phone softbrick?
If you did the Over The Air (OTA) update to 2.3.4 then yes your phone will softbrick after flashing the bootloader. Re-enter fastboot and issue the unlock commands and everything will be fine when you reboot.
Hi guys! I have a couple of questions. I just updated my Atrix to 2.3.4 by OTA update, so i created a brickable device, haven't i? I would like to know what i have to do know, i want to root the phone and unlock the bootloader to install custom roms, but im afraid to brick my new phone. I have read a lot the past two hours, but im still not sure about what to do now in order to unlock the phone and achieve root.
Also, the device will brick if i try to flash any 2.2 rom, no matter how i flash it (via CWM for example)? Or only if i flash a 1.8.3 SBF via RSDLite? Are there any other files that i have to avoid if i don't want to brick my phone?
Thanks for helping me out guys!
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Hi guys! I have a couple of questions. I just updated my Atrix to 2.3.4 by OTA update, so i created a brickable device, haven't i? I would like to know what i have to do know, i want to root the phone and unlock the bootloader to install custom roms, but im afraid to brick my new phone. I have read a lot the past two hours, but im still not sure about what to do now in order to unlock the phone and achieve root.
Also, the device will brick if i try to flash any 2.2 rom, no matter how i flash it (via CWM for example)? Or only if i flash a 1.8.3 SBF via RSDLite? Are there any other files that i have to avoid if i don't want to brick my phone?
Thanks for helping me out guys!
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After you unlock the boot loader, do not flash any sbf prior to 4.5.91. In fact after you unlock the boot loader, there's no need to flash a sbf at all, b/c you can just flash a fruitcake to return to stock.
As far as picking a ROM, it doesn't really matter... any ROM that requires a unlocked boot loader (which they all do), it is at least based off of gingerbread Android 2.3.4+
Use the pudding unlock sbf to unlock your boot loader. Most rooms include root. See my sig for further info.
Sent from my CM7 Atrix 4G
Swiftks said:
After you unlock the boot loader, do not flash any sbf prior to 4.5.91. In fact after you unlock the boot loader, there's no need to flash a sbf at all, b/c you can just flash a fruitcake to return to stock.
As far as picking a ROM, it doesn't really matter... any ROM that requires a unlocked boot loader (which they all do), it is at least based off of gingerbread Android 2.3.4+
Use the pudding unlock sbf to unlock your boot loader. Most rooms include root. See my sig for further info.
Sent from my CM7 Atrix 4G
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Thanks for your fast response! So, if i use the auto-unlocker on that thread, it wont brick my device right? Thanks for pointing me that, it seems very usefull. Now, this leads me to the next question, i also have to SIM Unlock my Atrix, because its locked to ATT and im trying to use it outside the US, so i need to SIM unlock it, i have seen several threads of users reporting problems SIM unlocking the phone, should i wait for the SIM Unlock code before proceding to unlock the bootloader? I have already ordered one, the guys should email it any time now, it will take less than 24hrs, and no less than 2hrs (which have already passed).
Thanks for your answers guys!
EDIT: Couldn't resist, unlocked the bootloader and achieved root. It was super easy with the automated batch. I hope i don't run into problems when i try to SIM unlock the phone lol
Hey all,
I'm fairly new to unlocking/rooting (I'm from the simple iPhone jailbreak world).
I have my Atrix 4G rooted with no issues and ClockworkMod installed... that was the easy part it seems.
Where I am struggling is to figure out IF I can unlock my Atrix 4G and if it is safe to do.
I am running Android 2.3.6 on the Bell network. I see a bunch on unlocks for bootloader 2.3.4 and am confisued if that bootloader version has any relation to the android version? How can I figure out what bootloader I have? Would it also be 2.3.6?
If it is indeed 2.3.6, is it possible to unlock, I see no specific unlocks for that version.
Thanks,
You cant install a different recovery with out being unlocked. so if you can boot into CWM then your phone is already unlocked.
Where did you get the phone? was it new?
Its possible if its used that it was already unlocked and someone RSD back to stock for sale purpose, if its new and you havent unlocked yet then you dont have CWM installed.
Random Canadian said:
You cant install a different recovery with out being unlocked. so if you can boot into CWM then your phone is already unlocked.
Where did you get the phone? was it new?
Its possible if its used that it was already unlocked and someone RSD back to stock for sale purpose, if its new and you havent unlocked yet then you dont have CWM installed.
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Sorry should have been a little more clear, I have installed ROM Manager and choose the CWM install, but I cannot boot into it, I get a boot error 2 (I think). Sorry phone is at home now so I can't recall exact error will post later.
I got phone 6 month ago, was used phone. I am fairly certain its not unlocked because I cannot boot with CWM, hence cannot install custom ROM.
Thanks for the reply.
Random Canadian said:
You cant install a different recovery with out being unlocked. so if you can boot into CWM then your phone is already unlocked.
Where did you get the phone? was it new?
Its possible if its used that it was already unlocked and someone RSD back to stock for sale purpose, if its new and you havent unlocked yet then you dont have CWM installed.
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You don't need to be unlocked to have CWM on your Atrix. I had it on at least 1.83 if not the original stock firmware. I know it was possible with only root on 1.83 because that was what I was running up until a month ago and I had CWM on it with a locked bootloader.
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You don't need to be unlocked to have CWM on your Atrix. I had it on at least 1.83 if not the original stock firmware. I know it was possible with only root on 1.83 because that was what I was running up until a month ago and I had CWM on it with a locked bootloader.
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Right, my phone is rooted so I have CWM, just can't boot it. My understanding is because I need to unlock, but I don't know how to unlock because I don't know how to figure out what bootloader I have.
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You don't need to be unlocked to have CWM on your Atrix. I had it on at least 1.83 if not the original stock firmware. I know it was possible with only root on 1.83 because that was what I was running up until a month ago and I had CWM on it with a locked bootloader.
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Locked or it just didnt say unlocked at the top? two very different things.
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Right, my phone is rooted so I have CWM, just can't boot it. My understanding is because I need to unlock, but I don't know how to unlock because I don't know how to figure out what bootloader I have.
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dur im pretty sure that unlocking the boot loader allows unsigned code to run at boot, I could be wrong but I think you two are out to lunch on installing CWM with just root.
That or you can install it but you cant run it because the boot loader wont allow something with out motorolas signature to execute. making the point of if it is or is not, installed, a moot one. Aside from the fact you no longer have any sort of a functional recovery mode.
There is a LOT of info on how to unlock the bootloader and its not exactly hidden. I dont know if its even still done with RSD but that would be a place to start as that is how I did mine in sept of last year.
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Locked or it just didnt say unlocked at the top? two very different things.
dur im pretty sure that unlocking the boot loader allows unsigned code to run at boot, I could be wrong but I think you two are out to lunch on installing CWM with just root.
That or you can install it but you cant run it because the boot loader wont allow something with out motorolas signature to execute. making the point of if it is or is not, installed, a moot one
There is a LOT of info on how to unlock the bootloader and its not exactly hidden. I dont know if its even still done with RSD but that would be a place to start as that is how I did mine in sept of last year.
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Yes I see what your saying, but I am saying that I cannot run CWM. I can only install onto my SD card. But the boot in recovery does not work (ie it will not run CWM). I'll post the error little later tonight when I try at it again.
I realize there is lots of info on unlocking bootloader and I am not concerned about doing the unlock, once I find a way to verify my bootloader version. Ive seen a few posts warning that bootloader must be v 2.3.4 or you can brick the phone.
So I guess ultimately my question is, how can I figure out my bootloader version? Have not seem this answers after some googling.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
Read that and your version will be in settings and then about phone. although I do believe that 234 and 236 unlock via the same method.
If you are going to install Custom roms CM7/9/10 or a blur based then you dont need to even worry about root. otherwise there are instructions in that thread to root that SBF
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Locked or it just didnt say unlocked at the top? two very different things.
dur im pretty sure that unlocking the boot loader allows unsigned code to run at boot, I could be wrong but I think you two are out to lunch on installing CWM with just root.
That or you can install it but you cant run it because the boot loader wont allow something with out motorolas signature to execute. making the point of if it is or is not, installed, a moot one. Aside from the fact you no longer have any sort of a functional recovery mode.
There is a LOT of info on how to unlock the bootloader and its not exactly hidden. I dont know if its even still done with RSD but that would be a place to start as that is how I did mine in sept of last year.
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I'm positive it was locked, running 1.83, and had CWM on it. I bought the phone at an AT&T store myself. I rooted it and put CWM on it. The early version of CWM for the Atrix only was accessible by turning the phone on while plugged into the wall charger that came with the phone.