Hello , when i bought the phone i expected to have 512 mb of ram but i was surprised to have only 340 mb , i searched the net and i found that the other part is used for ramdisk or somthing :/ , but few researches after , and i found that some 512mb devices are giving their full ram to user , and i searched for how to use the other part too to use the full physical ram but no results , so have you any idea to be able to use all 512 mb of ram ? And flashing new roms or kernels does solve the problem or not ? Because i flashed a cm10 to my freinds defy plus and it goes from 340mb to 497mb , how ?? Thank you in advance
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job.bousix said:
...but few researches after , and i found that some 512mb devices are using their full ram
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What devices you are talking about? Can go specific?
Im using an xperia mini pro sk17i , rooted with cwm in case
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Phone already makes use of all 512MB RAM. You just don't see it.
Yes it does , but not for the user's apps , for other things , the fact of switching the rom in defy plus make the user gets 30% more ram and moving the other part ( cache or data or ramdisk ..) to another "place" let's say , i want to know if it is possible for the xperia mini pro or it's just impossible ? Because i was obliged to disable autostart of many apps to have enough ram and cpu memory ! And thanks for answer
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I just got my GP a few weeks ago I just rooted to install the whatsapp. But now that i want to expand my ram i just cant do it.. It says that the swap function has been disabled.
PS. I also installed the BusyBox Pro
PS2. Its the american version YP-G70
Hmm, idk. I have never even heard of this app until now, and it seems like an interesting idea. The compatibility checker app says my 4.0 is compatible, but I don't want to dish out 8 bucks on something that might not work.
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Im user of SWAPiT Ram Expander...Its awesome app in benchmark you doesn´t see results but in big games (like amazing spider-man) you can see its much more smoother x) I think swapIT doesn´t support any ICS rom, but on GB rom it should run without problem
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Im user of SWAPiT Ram Expander...Its awesome app in benchmark you doesn´t see results but in big games (like amazing spider-man) you can see its much more smoother x) I think swapIT doesn´t support any ICS rom, but on GB rom it should run without problem
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thx man I made some research and I just need to installa a new kernel that supports swapit
I have chip rom and swapit expander work no problem..this app just saves this device..only problem with this device for me was little ram memory and with this app no lag on any game and no single launcher redrowing since I use this app.
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DZonikg said:
I have chip rom and swapit expander work no problem..this app just saves this device..only problem with this device for me was little ram memory and with this app no lag on any game and no single launcher redrowing since I use this app.
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But the kernel that its compatible with the us version doesnt support swapit.. And i dont want to install a rom that disables the camera
joy011 said:
But the kernel that its compatible with the us version doesnt support swapit.. And i dont want to install a rom that disables the camera
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I have international version..and camera is not disabled..it works normaly.
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I have international version..and camera is not disabled..it works normaly.
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But where can I get a kernel that supports the swapit for the usa version? Because the ones that allow the use of swapit disable my device capacitive buttons because they are only for the international version of the device
is it really worth it? I read that swap memory will reduce the read-write cycle of your sd card. I don't think that it's a good tradeoff in the long run...
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is it really worth it? I read that swap memory will reduce the read-write cycle of your sd card. I don't think that it's a good tradeoff in the long run...
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Sd card has at least 100 000 writes per sector so even with heavy use of swap it that would be at least 10-15 years (this program swaps process that are not used often and that just use memory for almost nothing) ..your battery would die much much before.And even if it dies you can buy mikro sd card class 10 cheap and make external to be internal.
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How can we get this working on the 5.0? I tried the original version of swapper, and I have to say I've never had this little problem with how many programs are running. Usually I close running programs as I stop using them, now I can have facebook, opera, and other memory intensive programs open with almost no slow down in android at all.
the kernel needs to be able to support swap. i don't believe Entropy's kernel does
Do this app works for stock rom/kernel/no root?
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Do this app works for stock rom/kernel/no root?
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It needs root.
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The device should have 512mb but when im in the task manger i see that there are only 376mb of ram why is it?is it because the rom?because i remember that in the stock rom i got 381mb but now i only have 376mb is the tweaks that i did made that?
Thanks for all the helpers!
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I just saw in the settings that i only have 263 ram(152 used+191 free)so which one is correct?the task manager or the settings menu?
I believe it is like the 8gb of storage and you only get around 5.5gb. Not all the ram is available for use to use, and I think that is for some of the background processes that are running to keep everything stable. I haven't used the stock rom in a while but I know that the max ram you get is 341mb, and yes some of the tweaks you do can increase/decrease ram.
kfirbep said:
The device should have 512mb but when im in the task manger i see that there are only 376mb of ram why is it?is it because the rom?because i remember that in the stock rom i got 381mb but now i only have 376mb is the tweaks that i did made that?
Thanks for all the helpers!
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You have 512mb of RAM in total but a certain amount is dedicated to the GPU to render the visuals. ~375 for apps and ~140 for graphics.
You can change how much is dedicated by doing what is called ramhack. But i don't know if its possible on the players. Search before making a new thread about it.
kfirbep said:
I just saw in the settings that i only have 263 ram(152 used+191 free)so which one is correct?the task manager or the settings menu?
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Did you read the settings wrong? Or its just messed up? I think that it meant 263mb of RAM was in use atm. So you would have ~110mb free (or the opposite).
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You have 512mb of RAM in total but a certain amount is dedicated to the GPU to render the visuals. ~375 for apps and ~140 for graphics.
You can change how much is dedicated by doing what is called ramhack. But i don't know if its possible on the players. Search before making a new thread about it.
Did you read the settings wrong? Or its just messed up? I think that it meant 263mb of RAM was in use atm. So you would have ~110mb free (or the opposite).
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No i read it fine,i upload some pictures so you will see.
Take care that the screen shot app should not be working in normal use so there should be in there 5-7mb more.
Anyway as u can see the task killer show different size of ram and the running apps shiw different size of ram....
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That 125 is used by the OS and programs and process you see on the list.But android in setting does not show all ram used..he lies a little and always show more free ram then any other app reports.
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Hmm, I just noticed that the yp-g70 seems to have more free ram for app use. The yp-g1 only has 352mb even with the more free ram mod in terrasilent kernal, according to task manager! Lucky you
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I guess he is using the newer model. That is lucky though.
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iJimaniac said:
Hmm, I just noticed that the yp-g70 seems to have more free ram for app use. The yp-g1 only has 352mb even with the more free ram mod in terrasilent kernal, according to task manager! Lucky you
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I dont thunk that this is what will make the difference of the speed between the two devices
Its just 20mb its nothing
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I guess he is using the newer model. That is lucky though.
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I wish i had the newer model because than i would have dual core processor and 1gb ram but unfortunately i dont have it i bought this device at septmber 2011 so I have the old samsung galaxy s wifi 5.0
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You have 512mb of RAM in total but a certain amount is dedicated to the GPU to render the visuals. ~375 for apps and ~140 for graphics.
You can change how much is dedicated by doing what is called ramhack. But i don't know if its possible on the players. Search before making a new thread about it.
Did you read the settings wrong? Or its just messed up? I think that it meant 263mb of RAM was in use atm. So you would have ~110mb free (or the opposite).
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But i dont understand i have 512 of ram from that i have only 376 free ram but from that i only have 100-150/220 mb(depends on which task killer you are looking).the system already took ram why from my free ram that is 376 i only 100-150/220 free ram that i can use?as you can see the apps the are working in the background not taking 150mb of ram...
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Anyone noticed that our devices give only on avg 140 mb of free ram even on cm it gives 190 mb
while on samsung devices i have noticed thy give 280mb of ram even on the official blotware version
and also on my xperia play on cm 9 i get 240 mb of free ram but on sola it hardly surpasses 190 mb ?? using ram booster
My tipo gives more than 200 mb free ram
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Hmm, I'm also wondering what's hogging the ram.
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As far as I know 124mb are allocated to the gpu, so the "visible" ram is 388mb. The ram for the gpu gives more performance in gaming.
(Correct me if I'm wrong)
And the problem is?
I got no problem with 140–160 mb on my Xperia S. I can only feel it getting slow when it install a update for an app. Else it can run 20+ apps at the same time.
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RAM is a resource that should be used. The more free RAM, less of it is actually being used. If the system needs memory it will get it by freeing RAM from background process. Cmom we have ICS, don't tell me you still free RAM with killers. Let the system worry about memory.
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But from my experience if you open ram hungry apps it slow downs due to less free ram.
All will be affected like slow opening time, lagging, more time to open web pages in browser etc etc.
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TheFirstFishy said:
And the problem is?
I got no problem with 140–160 mb on my Xperia S. I can only feel it getting slow when it install a update for an app. Else it can run 20+ apps at the same time.
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The problem is the crap peformance of some Sony ICS phones. Did you know that some mobile networks have *refused* to offer the Sony ICS update to their customers because 'the performance is so bad'? If you Google it, you'll find it, I know the Spanish-owned network O2 (Telefonica) is one network that decided this. That would be the problem.
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RAM is a resource that should be used. The more free RAM, less of it is actually being used. If the system needs memory it will get it by freeing RAM from background process. Cmom we have ICS, don't tell me you still free RAM with killers. Let the system worry about memory.
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I don't know a lot about this, but I believe this is true. I read a Google Android employee say this. However, when I contacted Sony about my Sola being slow, they told me it's probably too little free RAM and that I should consider a task manager. Imagine!
I also think its crappy performance with 512mb ram Xperia devices. Its really funny to get lags and extreme slowness even in phone dialer, or when u get a call while using some app..
In my case I can't imagine using Sola without 2 task killer apps, one is Go task manager for it's "Advanced Killer" feature, and the other is Ram Booster for it's overlay small widget that appears on all apps + games.
And I also get my Sola slow as hell after sometime using Browser or Chrome..really disappointing...
To say the least.. I didn't feel that I'm using a fast reliable device, and I'm sure it's a Sony or ICS thing coz I've used other devices from other brands that was really much faster even with the same 512mb ram like iPhone 4...no compare..
So to be able to use Sola flawlessly with multitasking u have to:
1-restart ur phone dialy or every couple of days!
2-don't use 99% of widgets!
3-use task killers!
4-don't even think of using Live wallpapers!
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SuperCharging will help a little.
Search it here on xda. SuperCharger.
It helped me a lot but funny thing is that i still have problems with calling or answering a call! It's shameful for a company like sony!
Xperia Sola sucks! Don't buy it.
Sorry for my weakness on English!
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I also think its crappy performance with 512mb ram Xperia devices. Its really funny to get lags and extreme slowness even in phone dialer, or when u get a call while using some app..
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I just tried CyanogenMod9 on the Sola (I've tried other ROMS) and the CM is unbelievably fast...I almost thought it was impossible that Sola could run this fast. This makes it totally clear to me that it is the stock Sony apps, UI etc. that absorbs so much RAM. However, I really don't like stock Google Android stuff, I think the audio is too nerdy and boring, the apps ugly and not so intuitive. If you have a sharp eye for detail and appreciate elegance, I have to say the Sony ROM is the ROM to use. The latest Sony ICS update .54 is much faster than previously. :fingers-crossed:
I've never used CM9, maybe I will when I have free time.
Agree about .54 , its kinda faster, but not for long..as you still have to reboot every couple of days, and phone still struggling while surfing the internet with stock browser or chrome.
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I don't have to reboot my sola unless I need to flash something or something I installed needs a reboot, like my ringtones I put into system\media folder. It runs fast and I have had no problems with it except few minutes ago when my power button didn't work but I think that has to do with my case as it worked when I rubbed the button.
hi
ram in use in s3 is always above 700mb.
even if i clear ram its 700 mb.
no heavy apps installed.
how to increase ram?
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GT-I93oo said:
hi
ram in use in s3 is always above 700mb.
even if i clear ram its 700 mb.
no heavy apps installed.
how to increase ram?
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Is there a reason you want it to use less? It has 2 GB of RAM and in my experience it never uses it all. So Android has an interesting way of managing RAM but trust it that it will purge the assets when it needs them. If you keep clearing RAM with task managers it tends to drain the battery . And one more thing, TouchWiz uses more RAM than AOSP / AOKP...
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Is there a reason you want it to use less? It has 2 GB of RAM and in my experience it never uses it all. So Android has an interesting way of managing RAM but trust it that it will purge the assets when it needs them. If you keep clearing RAM with task managers it tends to drain the battery . And one more thing, TouchWiz uses more RAM than AOSP / AOKP...
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from his signature you can see that he is using i9300, an international version that has 1GB RAM
@OP please specify which ROM and kernel do you have
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from his signature you can see that he is using i9300, an international version that has 1GB RAM
@OP please specify which ROM and kernel do you have
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Oops my bad. I use the app which doesn't show the signature. As for RAM, 700/1024 really isn't bad. That still leaves plenty. The OS can handle purging of assets and flushing the RAM
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Oops my bad. I use the app which doesn't show the signature. As for RAM, 700/1024 really isn't bad. That still leaves plenty. The OS can handle purging of assets and flushing the RAM
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Except the international models only have 833ram available instead of 1024 since I believe the others are reserved for the OS++
nothing need to do
GT-I93oo said:
hi
ram in use in s3 is always above 700mb.
even if i clear ram its 700 mb.
no heavy apps installed.
how to increase ram?
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Firstly, it is impossible to increase your physical RAM capacity.
Secondly, empty RAM is useless. Look it up on Google.
Lastly, you could change the OOM values by using a script like V6 Supercharger to increase the minimum free RAM, or you can change it yourself with an app like ROM Toolbox on the Play store.
That actualy is not much ram. But if you are really worried
then get Clean Master; https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard&hl=en
it clears the ram and removes all unnecessary files.
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That actualy is not much ram. But if you are really worried
then get Clean Master; https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cleanmaster.mguard&hl=en
it clears the ram and removes all unnecessary files.
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I am sure it works great but it will use extra battery and really isn't necessary. The OS has its reserves and the apps will clear out RAM as its needed ...
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flexdog said:
Firstly, it is impossible to increase your physical RAM capacity.
Secondly, empty RAM is useless. Look it up on Google.
Lastly, you could change the OOM values by using a script like V6 Supercharger to increase the minimum free RAM, or you can change it yourself with an app like ROM Toolbox on the Play store.
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Can you elaborate more about increasing physical RAM capacity.
GT-I93oo said:
hi
ram in use in s3 is always above 700mb.
even if i clear ram its 700 mb.
no heavy apps installed.
how to increase ram?
Ram is too high for me is not a problem as long as the mobile does not lag.
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How to avail max RAM/ROM in android, I have used GB,ICS,JB with newer versions RAM/ROM increased from 320 MB RAM in GB changed to 381MB RAM in JB, if it can be then why not having a perfect kernel which can unlock maximum ROM/ROM in ICS.
Install Root explorer. Remove unwanted system apps
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The amount of RAM available depends on the base Android and its system functions. These are hidden to the users.
For example, most JB ROMs have more RAM available, because 720p HD video recording has been disabled.
For RAM, I use Greenify big help for apps like Facebook, Maps and others
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Try to enable swap mode......follow this tread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2126363
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The amount of RAM available depends on the base Android and its system functions. These are hidden to the users.
For example, most JB ROMs have more RAM available, because 720p HD video recording has been disabled.
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Yes, I switched back to ics because JB habe only 480p video rec not 720p.
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For RAM, I use Greenify big help for apps like Facebook, Maps and others
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I have also used greenify app but after that led notification stopped working I was using xperia T ROM by saqib.then I flashed new rom again. :|
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Try to enable swap mode......follow this tread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2126363
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I have used that before but neither the performance gain nor memory increase I found.
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