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I like das BAMF quite a bit, it seems to be headed in the direction of being the premiere customer Thunderbolt ROM, but MAN is it reboot-y in it's current state. I've reformatted/wiped everything, but the second I try to overclock in the slightest, I'll get random reboots/screen lockups pretty much constantly. This can be easily reproduced by quickly sleeping/waking a few times, or often by just letting the phone sleep naturally then trying to wake it.
When put to stock voltage it DOES seem to behave a lot better, my question is do I somehow have a non-overclockable T-Bolt, or is there something likely screwed up with the latest radio/kernel/ROM or whatever? I can downgrade back to a Nandroid backup no problem but if the problem's with the radio, for example, that's not gonna help.
I had some problems with the stock kernel on BAMF 1.6 remix screen seemed to get less responsive after a while. Changed Kernels seems to have helped.
What Kernel did you switch to? I'm not sure if BAMF has the same Kernel issues the Droid did when using custom ROMS (i.e. the ROM has to play nice with the Kernel by design or you run into problems)
I am a big fan of these kernels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021404
I have not had any reboot issues with any of them though I do seem to get one reboot always when I change kernels or ROMS while I am setting things up. Maybe Radio I don't know but after that one it does not happen again.
Brilliant, seems to be working a LOT better. Anyone else dealing with random reboots definitely check this out
each phone is different in how it handles the kernels. i would just try out a bunch and see what plays nice with your phone. my thunderbolt can handle the extremely undervolted roms as well as the one's that are overclocked high. my friends though, cant. it is all about trial and error. i would just backup before you do anything though, just in case.
Yea. I'm using the minimal kernel - normal with BAMF re-mix 1.6, and so far, no reboots at all. (hope I did not just jinx myself).
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I am a big fan of these kernels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021404
I have not had any reboot issues with any of them though I do seem to get one reboot always when I change kernels or ROMS while I am setting things up. Maybe Radio I don't know but after that one it does not happen again.
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+1 on these kernels. I used the normal and the 192x version of this kernel on Bamf's rom and no reboots.
Sooo.. I'm not a fan of the crazy supermod kernels that add "tweaks" that improve only synthetic scores but kill your battery and are actually worse performing in real-world apps and cause other issues.
But damn, HTC has a HORRIBLE Bluetooth bitrate on A2DP. It's not the phone because one time I had a random ROM that had it sounding perfect, but whatever crap HTC has in there stock is awful.
Can anyone recommend one that doesn't do all the crazy stuff like SD/RAM "tweaks" but maybe only has things like dimmed capacatative buttons and the updated BT A2DP bitrate?
Or if I have to do this myself, what's a good way to get started?
Come on, no one?
Answer: Do it your self. Brah
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Answer: Do it your self. Brah
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He wasn't asking someone to developed a kernel, he was simply asking if one exists. Way to be a ****. I seriously have a hard time dealing with all the bull**** in the 3D forums.
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Saneless One said:
Can anyone recommend one that doesn't do all the crazy stuff like SD/RAM "tweaks" but maybe only has things like dimmed capacatative buttons and the updated BT A2DP bitrate?
Or if I have to do this myself, what's a good way to get started?
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I compiled a stock kernel with only dim leds and notification light blinking changed. If you tell me exactly what to change for the BT A2DP bitrate (or point to a kernel that has that change as a commit on github, etc), I'll do it for you.
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He wasn't asking someone to developed a kernel, he was simply asking if one exists. Way to be a ****. I seriously have a hard time dealing with all the bull**** in the 3D forums.
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Read the last sentence. Kthxbye lol
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ANYWAY.
Thanks mwalt. I'm actually using your kernel now with Clean/Senseless ROMs. I prefer no crazy crap in there, so I appreciate changing a few things that make sense and aren't experimental theoretical improvements.
My request is real though
Here's a big long thread about it, actually, to show I'm not crazy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-708685.html
Now.. to answer your question on where or what to change, after reading all that, I'm not sure I have an answer for you.
I know that the ROM in this thread works just fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316039
But of course, being CM7 based, it's still missing many things I need. Oddly though, unlike CM7 alpha, the BT audio worked just fine.
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I know that the ROM in this thread works just fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316039
But of course, being CM7 based, it's still missing many things I need. Oddly though, unlike CM7 alpha, the BT audio worked just fine.
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Do you happen to know what kernel empiire's rom is running? He doesn't say or give a source that I saw by quickly looking. I don't know enough to dig through the code myself and find it.
all my kernels have new / faster BT drivers...
GSM AOSP - pending
GSM SENSE - DONE
CDMA SENSE - DONE
CDMA AOSP = done
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318005
chad.goodman knows what he is doing!
I use the stockAnthraX kernel and it has just the right amount of tweaks that I need. Actually, I don't even think of them as tweaks...just making the phone do what it was designed to do.
Flash it...you won't regret it!
Just noticed mwalt had posted in here....his kernels were going to be my other suggestion! Both of them do quality work.
mwalt: The kernel for empires says it's from toastcfh, evo 3d #25 dirty. Something like that. I'm going from memory since I only flashed it to see if Bluetooth sounded good. And it sure did sound good. I have a few songs that are always an issue with HTCs settings and they were perfect.
I'll try out Chad's kernel to see if it's a kernel or other settings issue. If it's kernel, I'll have to research, hopefully with some help, where the setting truly is.
I've yet to check out how chad's performs in the car, but I have zero interest in overclocking anything. FSB, CPU, GPU, anything. This phone doesn't get the best battery life in general, and I have zero issues with 1.2ghz, so I see no reason to go higher. I use apps instead of just benchmarking, and those all work just great. In fact, some ROMS even set things back with tweaks that look good on paper (benchmarks) but actually break things like SD card read/write latency.
I personally recommend chad.goodman's kernals. I have flashed different kernals and different roms, testing each rom with each kernal. His always gave a better benchmark score, while remaining the most stable. I know that's not what your looking for however. Since that "phase" that I was going through flashing 4-6 roms a day, I have since stuck with flashing a new rom every few days to try them out. But I always, ONLY, flash his stock kernal, because it seems to me to make the phone run exactly as it should. I don't overclock or tweak it in any way, or use any apps to do so.
So basically I would say flash his stock kernal, don't worry about overclocking it or doing anything to change it, and try it out for a few days. I think you'll be pretty happy with the outcome.
Edit: I play games for 1-3 hours a day on my phone, text constantly and use the phone for everything it has, and I get 18-26 hours per charge. The rom I had stuck with mostly(Or always go back to) is CleanROM DE with his kernal, which now includes it.
I'd prefer not to OC, but the kernel has it set for 1.5 by default.
CleanROM DE isn't bad, but some of the tweaks cause real-world issues despite possible score gains. For instance, the SD Card speed fix actually slows down read/write rates in any real-world usages and even makes songs skip. The latency is horrible with that script in particular.
I have played multiple albums without running into any problems myself. All of my music is 320 CBR, and I use the stock music player. As far as score gains, I haven't ran a benchmark on this rom. I've gotten to where I just want a good stable rom, regardless of the benchmark scores, and of course one that works for me. I'm not saying it's your phone or SD Card, but honestly I haven't ran into any issues with the read or writing of my card. I'm also using the SD Card that came with the phone which I believe is class 4. I'm getting out of where I "know what I'm talking about" but it could also be the process you follow when flashing. I feel like I go through alot of un-needed steps while flashing roms/kernals. I flash a combination of different Wiping tools that format and optimize(Synergy Wipe for example) the partitions in EXT4. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it, but I can honestly say I haven't ran into any latency issues and especially no song skipping, even with the phone under heavy load(Music+Games/3DGames+Sometimes an open web tab or two and texting).
It could all just come down to each phone is different, even though they have the same hardware. Just like with PCs.
As far as OCing, I may not be correct(I'm probably not), but from what I read on chad.goodmans post along with others, the processor is approved/supported to run up to 1.512 by QUALCOMM, although it seems HTC says 1.188.
I'm not an expert on this at all, and if this isn't correct let me know. I'm just talking from experience and from my understandings of reading around on the forums.
Trust me, I try multiple things multiple times so I can single out the source of issues
Without SD Card tweak init.d scripts everything is fine. Introduce them into the mix, songs, album art, and the phone in general runs slow as it waits to build up the buffer before reading/writing. Now, benchmarks don't show this because during that buffer time there's no reading/writing so it's not measuring it. Once it actually writes it's slightly faster, but you can clearly see that the test is stalling out and it takes a LOT longer to complete.
As for chad's OC, I realize he's just doing what the chip is rated at, I'm not worried that he's got things set to some bad level, I just also realize that the chip is underclocked probably to save battery, and I'm fine with that speed so I'll take the power savings.
And finally.. the Anthrax kernel has the same A2DP issues as stock, so the bitpool setting is either not changed in it or the setting is elsewhere. I need to flash the other kernel I had from empire's rom to see if that alone can fix it.
Post your results once you finish testing it out, I'd like to know what they are haha!
Like I said I'm not into pushing my phone anymore, just looking for the best overall experience as possible with complete stability. However once in a great while I decide to flash some stuff and tweak it around to see how far my phone will go before freaking out ha.
Ok.. after another round of testing.
Looks like it's NOT a kernel thing after all. If I use Chad's anthrax kernel in a Sense ROM it doesn't change the quality of the BT A2DP streaming. But in an AOSP ROM, where the audio sounds good, using Chad's AOSP kernel still sounds good.
So it looks like there's some file/setting somewhere else that determines the bitrate or the BT drivers. Guess this isn't going to be as easy as I hoped.
Well at least you got that figured out haha. I'm still very interested in your findings so keep us updated! ^.^
I've always found that AOSP run better anyways, but I like Sense too much to get rid of it haha! However I'm looking forward to the bugs in the XPLOD ROM to be worked out, I flashed that one when it was released a few days ago and it seems pretty sick.
I would love to have an AOSP rom, but at this point the phone is missing functionality. I'll deal with Sense, so long as I can play music over BT and not cringe.
BT is important for the car because I can use steering controls
I read a reply in a thread which explained that the current ICS leak runs the CPU full speed, instead of scaling it, whenever the screen is on. This was the member's explanation for why some people notice their phones running hotter than on GB.
Is this true? And to the extent that it is true, is it true of the preceding leaks as well? I guess what I'm wondering is whether this is something that HTC might be hoping to resolve before going live with an OTA.
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I read a reply in a thread which explained that the current ICS leak runs the CPU full speed, instead of scaling it, whenever the screen is on. This was the member's explanation for why some people notice their phones running hotter than on GB.
Is this true? And to the extent that it is true, is it true of the preceding leaks as well? I guess what I'm wondering is whether this is something that HTC might be hoping to resolve before going live with an OTA.
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Your guess is as good as mine and I too read that same reply. I've been trying to figure this out since the leak came out. Some people aren't having any problems and some people are having all sorts of problems. I haven't been in the Rezound thread long but I'm not new to flashing and I've been going back on forth on doing the leak or waiting for either the source for kernel help or the official ota. I was thinking maybe it was "noob" mistakes but from alot of the posts it seems that experienced flashers are having problems as well. Scott has a kernel thread in the Dev section if you wish to follow that, if you aren't already. I know that all phones are created equal and there are some built better than others. So far I've been pretty fortunate in my phones. I've never had to take a phone in for repair that I didn't eff up myself.... Obviously, I'd like to think by the time we get the official ota all things will be resolved but you never know. When I had my Evo 3D it took the latest ota to solve alot of battery issues that we had. I know I don't answer your question but I too have similar ones myself. Be well.
The current leak/kernel that is having problems is part of a release candidate, we can only hope HTC resolves it before the update is finalized. I wouldn't be surprised if another leak/release candidate shows up in the near future, each one has fixed more issues found in the earlier leaks.
jjwalter--
If I was in your shoes I would not take the leak. My phone is worse than bricked.
I can put the .11 GB kernel back on the phone with my old software, but the WIFI doesn't seem to work with the ICS radio firmware, and the thing's running hotter than ever.
I had no heat or battery life issues on the current GB -- all my problems began when I flashed the .22 leak. And as long as I'm stuck with these radios I don't think they'll get better. Your mileage may vary, but if it was up to me I wouldn't get in that car again.
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djwalter--
If I was in your shoes I would not take the leak. My phone is worse than bricked.
I can put the .11 GB kernel back on the phone with my old software, but the WIFI doesn't seem to work with the ICS radio firmware, and the thing's running hotter than ever.
I had no heat or battery life issues on the current GB -- all my problems began when I flashed the .22 leak. And as long as I'm stuck with these radios I don't think they'll get better. Your mileage may vary, but if it was up to me I wouldn't get in that car again.
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Thanks for the heads up. From past flashing experience I have never seen a leak with a radio and firmware update. It's usually just a rom. With a leak this close I'm sure the ota isn't too far off and I'll just keep hanging around and root and flash once that drops. Thanks again.
I know if I were HTC/Verizon/ATT/Motorola... I'd be leaking any new builds right here on XDA. You couldn't find a better group of knowledgeable testers anywhere. In my mind, these leaks are on purpose, and I'd also guess there will be future releases that fix the issues the group here has found.
im running the latest leaked version and i have no heat problems whatsoever. i play hd games, on youtube for hours, etc...hottest its gotten was 120 degrees thats it. im running stock. as far as im concerned GB is dead to me
My phone doesn't get hot playing games on the leak, but you put that mofo to stream some music and it about burns through my pants in class, and then half my extended battery is gone. It is definately due to the scaling issue
Yea I see a lot of people saying they have heat and reboot issue but they are the same people asking newb questions if ya wipe everything, check the md5, flash the ruu, and do it right you will not have problems 99% of the time. Don't be afraid to update just because a couple user experience problems its not like some guy in his mom's basement made this leak its a leak from google got out god knows how but still built with their algorithm, software, and knowledgeable engineers. I would update sense 3.6 is way better than 3.5 and ics has a lot more backup options and a better user experience. I recommend you do just make sure to do a backup before you do so you can revert back if need be.
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What are the across the board issues with ics at the moment on the rezound? I'm thinking about coming from the bionic/thunderbolt, no Ril and hardware acceleration, etc.
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What are the across the board issues with ics at the moment on the rezound? I'm thinking about coming from the bionic/thunderbolt, no Ril and hardware acceleration, etc.
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There aren't any for me. Runs perfectly on my phone. Everything works the way it should.
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There aren't any for me. Runs perfectly on my phone. Everything works the way it should.
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Yep, I'm with ^ Everything is running top notch for me as well.
What are the bluetooth issues mentioned in the ics rom threads? I saw it said there was one known issue, but didn't specify.
I am a long time reader of xda, few time poster, so I don't have the 10 posts I need in the developer forum. I have been rooting phones for 2 years, but on motorola and samsung phones. odin and sbfs are a lot easier than s-off. Anyways, I got a friend who thought the rezound last year sounded awesome, and so I convinced him to get it instead of the iphone. Sad to say HTC hasn't updated the phone very often. He finally wants to root, and I have rooted his phone, but only S-on. I have searched through all roms and have come down to one of these 2.
What are the functional differences besides theming are there between devices?
Also, as with all asop roms, there are always little annoyances, or bugs. Could you list them all for me? I read something about bluetooth but only when calling but bluetooth streaming works, and had Hdmi/mhl something, and a blinking light? Is it all the time or just sometimes? can it be disabled? i like asop better, but he is weird, and I want to warn him of potential broken things before we flash?
If you don't want bug I suggest sticking into htc sense roms for now. rage and counter is base on cm9 they will have some bugs but it is very fast. common bugs are bluetooth calling and HDMI out not working.
A friend of mine is tired of Froyo and wanted me to put ICS on his phone. From my research it seems like a lot of the development died around December, and there hasn't been much progress made with this particular phone. I know there are a couple roms, but are any of them stable enough to be used on his only android phone or is Gingerbread pretty much the only option? This guy is pretty new to Android, not sure how well he would handle anything with serious issues. Workarounds (like 3rd party apps/etc) are fine, talked to him about that, its more is it solid enough for day in, day out use?
I don't want to flash something for him and have him get frustrated and have to roll it back to Froyo, and I hope there's at least one that's stable enough out there.
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A friend of mine is tired of Froyo and wanted me to put ICS on his phone. From my research it seems like a lot of the development died around December, and there hasn't been much progress made with this particular phone. I know there are a couple roms, but are any of them stable enough to be used on his only android phone or is Gingerbread pretty much the only option? This guy is pretty new to Android, not sure how well he would handle anything with serious issues. Workarounds (like 3rd party apps/etc) are fine, talked to him about that, its more is it solid enough for day in, day out use?
I don't want to flash something for him and have him get frustrated and have to roll it back to Froyo, and I hope there's at least one that's stable enough out there.
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Well...I recommend you IcySnap.It's good...it has 1 bug(if you use wi-fi tethering,after you must restart your phone...otherwise,it will restart itself at next use of wi-fi tethering) .Also,video camera lags a lot.However,there are lots of pluses too...fast user interface,looking good,very smooth animations,ics features,good battery life,stable,etc...
tips: use amon_ra recovery...i find it better than cwm.
if the phone reboots itself change to CAF Kernel ( there are some phones which can t handle the default kernel)
make sure the reboots aren't caused by too much overclock.every phone has a different max oc value,mine is 691 mhz.also...use SIO and Smartass v2.
320 mhz min value is ok.
for battery:go to settings->sound->quite hours and activate it from 00:00 am to 23:59 pm and disable haptic feedback and vibrations(phone ringtone/notification/etc won't be affected.Also,disable auto sync before adding a account.(if you have google contacts on ur acc,just go to contacts,and save them to sd card).do the oc settings above.if you want,disabling animations helps a little too.disable any push settings in any app ( like playstore,facebook,etc )
one last tip for this rom...add to hwa all apps that aren't automatically added( facebook for example ) and it will be way smoother.
If you don't want ics...go for gb...ressurection 2.0 is the most stable rom imo.not very smooth,but it works fine.also there are themes for that rom in theme sections.
that s all...good luck
Cold as ice by theKraven has been my daily for months. I love it, and I think it's worth a look. The only major feature it lacks is native wifi tethering. Make sure to flash the Virgin patch to use it on the Optimus v (it is for the Optimus s) and set your min clock speed to 480 to make it stable. You can find it in the Optimus s section of android Central Forums.
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