Please tell me there is some sort of flashable zip to get rid of MTP/PTP.
If I can't get standard USB mode on this S3 I'm getting rid of it, MTP is like the worst way of connected to a PC in my opinion.
All the downsides are not worth not having to mount / disconect the drive.
*Note : I use my phone for my work, MTP makes doing any one job over twice as long as I have to transfer the file to my pc in order to edit it, then I need to send it back.
With USB disk I just edit the file/photo/video directly on the devices drive, huzzah so much time saved!)
I tried SG3 easy UMS but it doesn't disable MTP with the rom I am using.
ive been lookng for ways to get UMS too. Easy UMS is giving me problems. Sometimes it just doesnt work and no drives MTP nor UMS drives show on my PC.
Im on Omega rom with Perseus kernel.
The storage mode has been removed all together as android no longer really supports it. Even Google has done away with it.
Wayne Tech S-III
Has been said 1234578 times. No way for internal sdcard, easyUms for external.
That's it. I agree mtp sucks, not working on my Windows 7 computer. Easy ums works well here.
This is where USB OTG comes in handy
Thank you for the replies everyone.
Looks like I'm downgrading to my sensation then :laugh:
Shall send some dissapointed emails to Google/HTC/Samsung etc though as if they're really trying to make mtp standard that's just silly. (Hell it's bloody useless even for media transfer, I put HD movies on my phone and don't bother optimising them for the phone so they're often rather large files. maximum average transfer I see with MTP is 5MB/s if I use USB disk on my sensation with same SD card I get 15+MB/s)
Shame though as some roms for my note n7000 disable MTP so was hoping the same could be done for the s3 :[
Not a big fan of the emulated SD card as well, just makes finding files in recovery a pain in the arse :laugh:
If this is the way Android is heading looks like I need to find another smart phone OS D:
One thing that could help me keep the s3 is if I could automate easy UMS so when I connect the phone I get a prompt asking me if I want to mount my sd card. ( if that is already a feature, it doesn't work with slim rom) Don't really care for what ever is on the emulated sd card anyway so don't care if that connects with MTP.
( Please don't suggest I just plug the card into a card reader, I use a alluminium bumper case that bolts on so quick swapping is not possible)
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Thank you for the replies everyone.
Looks like I'm downgrading to my sensation then :laugh:
Shall send some dissapointed emails to Google/HTC/Samsung etc though as if they're really trying to make mtp standard that's just silly. (Hell it's bloody useless even for media transfer, I put HD movies on my phone and don't bother optimising them for the phone so they're often rather large files. maximum average transfer I see with MTP is 5MB/s if I use USB disk on my sensation with same SD card I get 15+MB/s)
Shame though as some roms for my note n7000 disable MTP so was hoping the same could be done for the s3 :[
Not a big fan of the emulated SD card as well, just makes finding files in recovery a pain in the arse :laugh:
If this is the way Android is heading looks like I need to find another smart phone OS D:
One thing that could help me keep the s3 is if I could automate easy UMS so when I connect the phone I get a prompt asking me if I want to mount my sd card. ( if that is already a feature, it doesn't work with slim rom) Don't really care for what ever is on the emulated sd card anyway so don't care if that connects with MTP.
( Please don't suggest I just plug the card into a card reader, I use a alluminium bumper case that bolts on so quick swapping is not possible)
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It may have been an option if Samsung had released the proper documentation on this chip like they promised at first but then changed their mind.
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i feel the same way about MTP but it's not that BIG a deal. Easy UMS is a good alternative. i had a Sensation as well and you couldn't even access the internal memory, you could only access the memory stick via flash drive. atleast you can access both internal and external sd card using MTP. just put the files on your ext sdcard and use Easy UMS for quick editing of the files. from there you can move the file to your int sdcard using some type of file manager.
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swift2fly said:
i feel the same way about MTP but it's not that BIG a deal. Easy UMS is a good alternative. i had a Sensation as well and you couldn't even access the internal memory, you could only access the memory stick via flash drive. atleast you can access both internal and external sd card using MTP. just put the files on your ext sdcard and use Easy UMS for quick editing of the files. from there you can move the file to your int sdcard using some type of file manager.
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I suppose that is an option thanks for the suggestion.
Going to be a pan in the arse setting all my apps to save things to external sd mind.
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Just saw this in the Engaget review;
While the One X and S offer options to use USB mass storage or MTP to transfer files, your choices are cut in half with Sprint's version -- MTP is all you have.
Who's got the skinny on this? I'm not familiar to how MTP works.
fachadick said:
Just saw this in the Engaget review;
While the One X and S offer options to use USB mass storage or MTP to transfer files, your choices are cut in half with Sprint's version -- MTP is all you have.
Who's got the skinny on this? I'm not familiar to how MTP works.
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I actually prefer MTP. Here's more:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ics-feature-mtp-what-it-why-use-it-and-how-set-it
As it says, you can still to mass storage with the MicroSD.
It is pretty simple, though... I think I used it for my old Sansa e250 mp3 player (it gave you the option between the two systems).
The way I read engadget's words was like this:
The internal memory, can only be accessed through MTP.
The SDCARD on the other hand, can be accessed as a mass storage device.
watzone69 said:
I actually prefer MTP. Here's more:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ics-feature-mtp-what-it-why-use-it-and-how-set-it
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Thanks for the link, it was helpful, and I can understand why they would want to go that route, but what I got from that link is that there's no difference, in practice for the end user, between the two. Meaning even with MTP, you plug it into your computer, and you can still access and move files around. Did I get that right? Does it open as another drive on the computer like USB mass storage does? In fact, would it open as two drives - one for the internal memory, and another for the sdcard?
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The way I read engadget's words was like this:
The internal memory, can only be accessed through MTP.
The SDCARD on the other hand, can be accessed as a mass storage device.
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I read it the same way, I was just hoping that I wouldn't be locked out of the internal memory, unless I used the phone itself (if that makes sense).
If the internal memory is going to be laid out in a similar way to my transformer, then one option is to use samba filesharing and set up the internal storage partition as a share. This is of course going to require root but as i understand it the issue with the one x (and maybe this one) is the bootloader unlock and not simple superuser permissions. I have my transformer set up where when its connected to my home wifi network both the internal storage and the microsd card is shared as samba shares and i just transfer files in to internal storage using that.
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Dropbox
Dropbox comes pre-loaded on the phone. You can also sync with Google Drive or a similar service.
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fachadick said:
Just saw this in the Engaget review;
While the One X and S offer options to use USB mass storage or MTP to transfer files, your choices are cut in half with Sprint's version -- MTP is all you have.[/URL]
Who's got the skinny on this? I'm not familiar to how MTP works.
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I'm not sure which ROM you are using (probably stock), but with my Venom Viper4G 3.14 ROM, I have USB mass storage for the following:
system: NO
sdcard: NO
sdcard2 (ext_sd): YES
However, I have to do 2 things:
1. Disable USB debugging
2. toggle USB File Sharing to Disk Drive (NOT HTC Sync Master)
It's my understanding that Jewel (the HTC Evo 4G LTE) does not allow for mounting system and sdcard(1). In contrast, my HTC One X allows for mounting both system and sdcard, and it does so with USB Debugging enabled. The One X also has a Charge Only mode, but Jewel cannot.
As detailed here:
http://www.jayceooi.com/2012/03/14/...-storage-on-android-4-0-ics-samsung-galaxy-s2
I need MSC (not MTP) to use the S3 with my backup program. I don't yet have the S3. Thanks in advance.
bradavon said:
As detailed here:
http://www.jayceooi.com/2012/03/14/...-storage-on-android-4-0-ics-samsung-galaxy-s2
I need MSC (not MTP) to use the S3 with my backup program. I don't yet have the S3. Thanks in advance.
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No USB Mass Storage on Galaxy S3. No USB Utilities like Galaxy S2. So file transfering a bit slow esp small file!
Zanr Zij said:
No USB Mass Storage on Galaxy S3. No USB Utilities like Galaxy S2. So file transfering a bit slow esp small file!
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Thanks. That's a shame .
Does USB Debugging enable USB Mass Storage? I believe it does on Gingerbread. I've read reports it doesn't on ICS though.
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Thanks. That's a shame .
Does USB Debugging enable USB Mass Storage? I believe it does on Gingerbread. I've read reports it doesn't on ICS though.
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It does not sadly.
Why there's no mass storage is beyond me. Hopefully a FW update (probably in early autumn) will fix it.
The Smoking Man said:
Why there's no mass storage is beyond me. Hopefully a FW update (probably in early autumn) will fix it.
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I doubt it will come. It's not default in Android anymore.
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The Smoking Man said:
Why there's no mass storage is beyond me. Hopefully a FW update (probably in early autumn) will fix it.
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Unfortunately not. Google moved from UMS to MTP with Honeycomb because UMS locks out the storage to the phone when it's plugged into a computer.
I've never heard of this being an actual problem for anyone. You've only got it plugged in for a set period of time.
There's much more on it here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...behind-galaxy-nexus-lack-of-usb-mass-storage/
problem with usb storage
Hi, I went to setting, more, USB utilities, this is where my problem starts.
My phone say, "USB is connected. Remove the cable." but my phone isn't connected to the cable!
Any suggestions on what to do?
Thanks
bradavon said:
As detailed here:
http://www.jayceooi.com/2012/03/14/...-storage-on-android-4-0-ics-samsung-galaxy-s2
I need MSC (not MTP) to use the S3 with my backup program. I don't yet have the S3. Thanks in advance.
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If you are having a rooted phone, there are StickMount from chainfire, Alt Mounter and SGS3 easy UMS that will allow you to connect the android in Mass Storage Mode.
Can someone post a link for SGS3 easy UMS because download keeps failing from site and Google didn't help.
Michael_P said:
Can someone post a link for SGS3 easy UMS because download keeps failing from site and Google didn't help.
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[APP] [v1.1] Mount external microSD card as USB mass storage
Stick Mounter has nothing to do with UMS.
Alt Mounter requires a helper service on the computer and can only provide FTP access, no real mass storage.
Here's what you can run on the Terminal (the Helper app only runs the commands for you; easier to use)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27282116&postcount=58
So has anyone actually tried SGS3 easy UMS? If it works will the host on my car stereo, tv etc recognise it and is there any system side effects I should know about.
If you don't trust the app (the commands really work =D ), get 'Gscript lite' in Google Play and add the corresponding parts as 2 different scripts which you then put on your homescreen for easy access.
That will do exactly the same for you.
Whether it works with car hifi etc depends on your devices. A user 'Siran' reported that his car-stereo took some time to recognize it and the playback had hiccups, but at least the last issue could be attributed to the SDcard not being unmounted in the phone before mounting it on the computer.
Currently the app uses the 'old method' while my script correctly mounts/unmounts to prevent such issues.
The side effect is the same as always; that particular card is not mounted and available in the phone as long as it's mounted as mass-storage on external devices. However that should not be a real issue. No negative side effects are known or likely to exist.
d4fseeker said:
If you don't trust the app (the commands really work =D ), get 'Gscript lite' in Google Play and add the corresponding parts as 2 different scripts which you then put on your homescreen for easy access.
That will do exactly the same for you.
Whether it works with car hifi etc depends on your devices. A user 'Siran' reported that his car-stereo took some time to recognize it and the playback had hiccups, but at least the last issue could be attributed to the SDcard not being unmounted in the phone before mounting it on the computer.
Currently the app uses the 'old method' while my script correctly mounts/unmounts to prevent such issues.
The side effect is the same as always; that particular card is not mounted and available in the phone as long as it's mounted as mass-storage on external devices. However that should not be a real issue. No negative side effects are known or likely to exist.
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Well, isn't possible then to use it simultaneously from the phone and the usb? What does this app stand for then?
Multi Mount SD-Card and MountUSB Widget
It is, check the "--- BELOW ..." lines in my link.
However it WILL cause data corruption and data loss and might even cause the SDcard's filesystem to be damaged beyond repair.
What you do is use the same filesystem in 2 distinct locations which individually write on it.
To understand how that causes an issue, you'll have to get a basic understanding of a filesystem; they actually work like a science book.
You have an index listing all directories and files aswell as their relation to each other and where on the SDcard the file is stored.
Now if a file is modified the index is changed and then the file added,changed or deleted.
So far, so wel.
If you now mount it on 2 locations (mind you: filesystems don't know about that, so each location thinks it is the sole one accessing it) and work from 2 locations on the same data you have a rather high chance that one operating system will eventually overwrite or alter data without the other one knowing about it.
If the index is too damaged you'll not only loose some files but potentially all filenames and folders. Applications like Recuva can recover most of the files (at least usually) but it won't be pretty, easy and complete.
Simply don't do it. There is a reason why noone implements it
Just tried SGS3 easy UMS on my Tv and Dvd player through their host and worked fine with music, videos and images, and i'll check my car stereo tomorrow, so thanks d4fseeker.
scandiun said:
If you are having a rooted phone, there are StickMount from chainfire, Alt Mounter and SGS3 easy UMS that will allow you to connect the android in Mass Storage Mode.
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This is different. It's for mounting a USB flash drive on the phone.
nawat said:
This is different. It's for mounting a USB flash drive on the phone.
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You mean OTG (USB On the GO). I though it was for both OTG and MSC.
Last night, due to the wonders of MTP, it took me nearly 2 hours to transfer 2gb of data from my S2 over to the S3, with many popup interruptions delaying the transfer.
God I hate MTP's speed with many small files. But I guess it could be worse if they locked the filesystem down.
Hey,
I just picked up a SGS3 today and is in the process of setting it up and restoring apps and what not. I have however hit a slight snag that I dont seem to be able to work around. Is there some way to get the SGS3 into USB Storage Mode, and thus being able to access both the internal and external SD of the phone as removeable storage in Windows?.
Several of my apps sadly saved stuff on the internal SD of the SGS2 and I need to put it on the internal of the SGS3 in order to be able to restore. Can anyone help me?.
Search for App called SGS3 Easy UMS.
Michael_P said:
Search for App called SGS3 Easy UMS.
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I already have that installed. According to the description it ONLY makes external SD UMS, and not Internal which is what I want and need. I need both internal and external SD "mounted" as UMS.
You can only see internal in MTP mode but people are working on trying to link internal to external over UMS so you'll just have to wait until it's been done.
That sorta sucks to be honest, so I am stuck copying stuff to external SD and then moving it to the internal for the time being >.<
Yep and it looks like Samsung isn't gonna bring it back either even though they could if they want with no problems, so it all depends if Google make some changes in Jellybean to make it easier using ExFat.
Samsung isn't gonna bring it back either even though they could if they want with no problems
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Actually there are lots of problems. That's one of the reasons mass storage got deprecated.
but people are working on trying to link internal to external over UMS
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Sorry but that sentence makes no sence. The only possibility is to create a virtual filesystem in RAM which maps it's I-Node locations to the corresponding files and/or location on the EXT4 filesystem.
According to the description it ONLY makes external SD UMS, and not Internal which is what I want and need.
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You can swap internal with external storage and thus make it USB-mountable. However note that for data integrity it will need to be unmounted on the phone which can cause all sorts of unexpected behaviours.
d4fseeker said:
Actually there are lots of problems. That's one of the reasons mass storage got deprecated.
Sorry but that sentence makes no sence. The only possibility is to create a virtual filesystem in RAM which maps it's I-Node locations to the corresponding files and/or location on the EXT4 filesystem.
You can swap internal with external storage and thus make it USB-mountable. However note that for data integrity it will need to be unmounted on the phone which can cause all sorts of unexpected behaviours.
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If there's any serious problems that mean it can't be implemented then why do so many phones have this and App moving with no appreciable performance problems? The fact is Samsung could relatively easily include these things to make the phone work as well as it should but they simply for whatever reason decided against it, and even if they did include it and UMS transfer speeds weren't as good as they could be at least the feature would have been there and the reality is that's really what matters.
I am trading an old iPhone 4s for an Evo LTE tonight and I just wanted to make sure I will be able to access both the Internal storage and SD card via MTP on my Mac. I used a GS3 for a short time and the only way to access any of the storage on that thing was using AirDroid and some crappy card reader I bought at Fry's. It worked okay, but I really miss MSM Kies and AFT all failed to connect to my Mac. And yes, I use a Mac before anyone starts talking smack LOL! I love Apple, Android, and Windows, I am I fanboy of technology!! All my music and movies or on my Mac BTW.
If anyone has a quick sure fire way to plug and play with my Mac I would appreciate it. I don't want to be up all night adding movies and music in pure disgust
Thanks.
I am a Mac user, and not familiar at all with the programs you mentioned. I'll look them up after I answer your question.
Assuming you are going to root the phone and install a custom recovery (TWRP is my recovery of choice), you will have access to both internal (sd0) and external (sd1) storage when mounted via usb in recovery.
Otherwise, just mounting the phone through usb, I only hace access to the internal storage. THere may be another way to get to external storage that I am not aware of, but this method is working fine for me.
Good luck.
ETA: If all you are looking to do is sync your new phone to itunes, there are apps in the playstore that can handle that. Too lazy to look them up for you; just wanted to point you in the right direction.
Is there anyway to mount the Galaxy S4's SD card as Mass Storage? I don't like using MTP, its too clumsy.
I've searched on Play and found a couple of apps that I thought would work, but didn't. I tried "SG USB Mass Storage Enabler" and "AL Mass Storage Manager", neither of them worked.
The developer of "SG USB Mass Storage Enabler" got it to work for the S3, Note 2, and the S4 for every carrier EXCEPT Verizon. -_-
I guess someone will eventually get it to work for Verizon, but does anyone know of an app or another method that works now?
I do have root, the SD card I'm trying to mount is Sandisk 32 GB.
Spike96 said:
Is there anyway to mount the Galaxy S4's SD card as Mass Storage? I don't like using MTP, its too clumsy.
I've searched on Play and found a couple of apps that I thought would work, but didn't. I tried "SG USB Mass Storage Enabler" and "AL Mass Storage Manager", neither of them worked.
The developer of "SG USB Mass Storage Enabler" got it to work for the S3, Note 2, and the S4 for every carrier EXCEPT Verizon. -_-
I guess someone will eventually get it to work for Verizon, but does anyone know of an app or another method that works now?
I do have root, the SD card I'm trying to mount is Sandisk 32 GB.
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Just curious, what's clumsy about it? It's functionally superior since the card remains mounted in Android. It is slower, but really, in terms of the steps you take to use it, there is no difference. You plug it in, it shows up in windows, you drag and drop files, you unplug. You may have to choose to exit installer mode depending on the ROM, but you also often have to choose to mount as usb storage as well.
brizey said:
Just curious, what's clumsy about it? It's functionally superior since the card remains mounted in Android. It is slower, but really, in terms of the steps you take to use it, there is no difference. You plug it in, it shows up in windows, you drag and drop files, you unplug. You may have to choose to exit installer mode depending on the ROM, but you also often have to choose to mount as usb storage as well.
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Its slower, yes. This is one of many issues.
I have a lot of macs in my house (trust me I don't like it either) and jumping around from one to another is impossible without the additional software. Yes, I can download it, but I'd rather have the option not to. With the option to mount as Mass Storage, the S4 can play the role of a universal USB stick. It can connect to any computer, regardless of software.
Also, some basic programs (like a folder size freeware I have) will not work with my card unless I take it out of my S4 and insert it using its adapter. This is on windows 7.
I feel like you simply have more freedom with the option to mount as Mass Storage.
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Still nothing???
I've heard a lot of desire for this option specifically for the Verizon S4!
I use a free application, Android File Transfer, to mount my S4 (including SD card) to my Mac, but Samsung Kies has to be uninstalled for it to work. I don't know of a solution for Windows.
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brizey said:
Just curious, what's clumsy about it? It's functionally superior since the card remains mounted in Android. It is slower, but really, in terms of the steps you take to use it, there is no difference. You plug it in, it shows up in windows, you drag and drop files, you unplug. You may have to choose to exit installer mode depending on the ROM, but you also often have to choose to mount as usb storage as well.
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It can't be plugged into my car's usb port to play audio directly from the SD card. I know you can use bluetooth, but I like the ease of plug and play.
Spike96 said:
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I've heard a lot of desire for this option specifically for the Verizon S4!
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google this
SAMSUNG GALAXY S4 USB MASS STORAGE ENABLER
payaso805 said:
google this
SAMSUNG GALAXY S4 USB MASS STORAGE ENABLER
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I did, can you give me a direct link?
Most of the links refer to "SG USB Mass Storage Enabler" which I already stated does not work for Verizon GS4. The dev has not added support for SCH-I545 yet. Stranger yet is the app is now down from Google Play.
Guess Google doesn't like Mass Storage?
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I did, can you give me a direct link?
Most of the links refer to "SG USB Mass Storage Enabler" which I already stated does not work for Verizon GS4. The dev has not added support for SCH-I545 yet. Stranger yet is the app is now down from Google Play.
Guess Google doesn't like Mass Storage?
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i guess it doesnt work.i have the same phone
here i found a lot of info that would be usefull to you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297888
hope this helps
also some post ago some one said to use android file transfer,if you have a bunch of macs.and its true i use this for my mac all the time.it works great
Almost a year later...
Is Mass Storage really still not possible? AT&T has it, T-Mobile got it, is Verizon still hopeless?
MTP is a huge step backwards IMO from Mass Storage. It's just way too slow.