Title says all. If possible, to how much can you overclock it?
Honestly, I don't know why you would overclock for anything other than bragging rights. this thing is fast.
All it needs is for the software to be optimized.
Undervolt is always good too.
Sorry for not really answering your question, but i'm sure it's possible. I mean, if you can undervolt, I'm sure you can overvolt and mess with the multiplier and all that jazz.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012320
That is what I'm talking about. International only though.
From what I've gathered from reading various posts, it is generally frowned upon as a bad idea for a variety of reasons, ultimately coming down to it will end up damaging your phone one way or another. So, yeah, of course, I'm sure you could find a way to do it, but if it were me I wouldn't(and this is coming from someone who overclocked every modern phone he's had except this one).
Once I see the trusted devs talking about it and saying it's a good idea...that's when I'll try it. Just my 2 cents.
SunnyChrono6 said:
Title says all. If possible, to how much can you overclock it?
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well - if it behaves like the hox
you should be able to get about +15%
but why you want to do that at all
normally you only underclock this battery eater
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Well I haven't found a way. Besides, I think the phone would heat up to much anyways.
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Well I haven't found a way. Besides, I think the phone would heat up to much anyways.
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well - no kernel is supporting it
so it will be hard for you to find a way
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Have you ever actually run into a situation where the phone does not have enough cpu power? I know I haven't but there have been many situations where I wished I if more battery Mah, what you really want to overclock is the gpu which is stable running at about 600mhz. The main reason why the cpu might not perform well is due to the cpu getting stuck in single core mode or failing to scale properly, just head over to nik3r's or maxwen's kernel threads and flash the latest version.
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Have you ever actually run into a situation where the phone does not have enough cpu power? I know I haven't but there have been many situations where I wished I if more battery Mah, what you really want to overclock is the gpu which is stable running at about 600mhz. The main reason why the cpu might not perform well is due to the cpu getting stuck in single core mode or failing to scale properly, just head over to nik3r's or maxwen's kernel threads and flash the latest version.
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Overclocking and people with EOS (Extreme Overclocking syndrome) care little about if they need the extra power for a purpose. There sole mission is to push a CPU as far as they dare without frying it
This is fine with a PC, as PC's have all manner of 3rd party cooling solutions. But I totally agree with everyone that trying to overclock the HOX+ CPU is futile and borderline stupid. It struggles to keep itself cool at the best of times. Putting the CPU through extra thermal stress for no reason and to gain little in the way of performance is not something I would risk....
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maxwen said:
well - no kernel is supporting it
so it will be hard for you to find a way
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Without being a ****.... He could just try and compile his own kernel. There are plenty of tuts on the subject and setting up the environment is not too difficult :silly:
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Hello everyone, I just had one quick question (I'm also very new to Android in general so I don't want to do anything to make my phone un-useable). Does Setcpu work with samsung fascinate root and clockwork mod? I heard some people say theres a seperate application to underclock and overclock the fascinate, but then again i do not think they knew what they were talking about. Is there a better program than setcpu?
Sorry if this has already been posted. I know its been posted in other forums for different phones, but didn't find one for the fascinate.
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Hello everyone, I just had one quick question (I'm also very new to Android in general so I don't want to do anything to make my phone un-useable). Does Setcpu work with samsung fascinate root and clockwork mod? I heard some people say theres a seperate application to underclock and overclock the fascinate, but then again i do not think they knew what they were talking about. Is there a better program than setcpu?
Sorry if this has already been posted. I know its been posted in other forums for different phones, but didn't find one for the fascinate.
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setcpu is the only and the best overclocking app. If u want to be able to overclock ur phone us have to flash jt1134s 1.2ghz voodoo kernel then use can use setcpu to overclock to 1.2ghz!
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Hello everyone, I just had one quick question (I'm also very new to Android in general so I don't want to do anything to make my phone un-useable). Does Setcpu work with samsung fascinate root and clockwork mod? I heard some people say theres a seperate application to underclock and overclock the fascinate, but then again i do not think they knew what they were talking about. Is there a better program than setcpu?
Sorry if this has already been posted. I know its been posted in other forums for different phones, but didn't find one for the fascinate.
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SetCPU is the most popular one. You'll need root to even use SetCPU. And you'll need CWM to flash the OC Kernels. If you dont OC SetCPU is pointless
On that note.
SetCPU must be ran on conservative and with no profiles and no load on boot.
If you do reboot your phone, mine reverts back to 800, so I need to manually change it to 1200.
Do u have to set both min & Max to 1200???
no just the max
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SetCPU is the most popular one. You'll need root to even use SetCPU. And you'll need CWM to flash the OC Kernels. If you dont OC SetCPU is pointless
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Not pointless. You can always underclock to spare your battery life
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Not pointless. You can always underclock to spare your battery life
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Yes, of course you are right. Actually the other day I forgot to slide sliders up from 800 to 1200 and I was getting really good battery life for like 2 hours my % only dropped 1% and I was like wow.
Im just pleased as punch that there are OC/UV kernels out, its the best of both worlds.
Actually my battery life is above average it seems; either that or my usage is below average so Im not draining it as much. I'd gladly mildly overvolt to something like 1350mV if it meant I'd be rock solid stable at say 1.4Ghz
BTW, jt I heard you might be getting out the kernel speed chase after these 1.2Ghz's? Just don't feel like chasing 1.3 or 1.4?
I am running Dirrk's D012 LV 1200 Kernel with SetCPU
Luckily, the LV runs EXTREMELY smooth on my phone..
So smooth, that for the past day now I have been able to run with "set on boot" and constant restarts on my phone..and with Profiles for Screen Off, Temp (probably wont get there), and Charging. I can say that I have had no problems with my profiles and set on boot. Then again, I don't want to contribute to hurting anyone's phone
Just thought I'd let everyone know how my phone (and potentially others) can seem to handle profiles and set on boot.
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I am running Dirrk's D012 LV 1200 Kernel with SetCPU
Luckily, the LV runs EXTREMELY smooth on my phone..
So smooth, that for the past day now I have been able to run with "set on boot" and constant restarts on my phone..and with Profiles for Screen Off, Temp (probably wont get there), and Charging. I can say that I have had no problems with my profiles and set on boot. Then again, I don't want to contribute to hurting anyone's phone
Just thought I'd let everyone know how my phone (and potentially others) can seem to handle profiles and set on boot.
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No problems with set on boot here either. I keep it on.
so how do i use setcpu/what are the steps i need to take?
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so how do i use setcpu/what are the steps i need to take?
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Install it, tell it to auto detect, set the max where you want, leave the min at 100, and then leave it alone.
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I was hoping to get some help. I have installed jt's 1200 voodoo kernal, and I can't seem to get Setcpu to clock at 1200. It still says that the max is 800, however, on the slide it is only giving me the option to goto 528. Bellow are my facts, any help would be great!
Facts:
1. flashed jt's overclocked voodoo use clockwork, but did it through "install ROM from sd card". I am not sure if this is correct, but it seems to be running voodoo.
2. I have no idea how I need to have Setcpu set up.
I feel like I am blindfolded and I am trying to wack at a pinata.
thanks.
Edit: never mind...even a blind folded monkey hits the pinata every now and then
So far I've just been using SetCPU for over/underclocking but have never messed with undervolting. I was wondering what most people use if your main priority is undervolting for better battery life. I'm running Siyah 2.6.7 with SHOstock ROM. Any help/feedback is appreciated.
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So far I've just been using SetCPU for over/underclocking but have never messed with undervolting. I was wondering what most people use if your main priority is undervolting for better battery life. I'm running Siyah 2.6.7 with SHOstock ROM. Any help/feedback is appreciated.
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Well, undervolting is very tricky. Each CPU differs in its ability to undervolt, so settings that work for one may not work for others. You'd have to do some testing. I recommend either a.) undervolting one tick and run AnTuTu benchmark multiple times as well as a demanding game/app (Run them for a long time), or b.) undervolting one tick and using your phone normally as per your current usage and if by the next morning it's still running as normal, repeat one tick.
Do NOT set "Set on Boot" to on until you've run these tests and have had no issues.
Hope this helps a little.
Do not worry about 1400,1600 mhz till later since that's when your overclocking.
Bump everything else down by 25mv, run the stress test and a few intensive programs like benchmarks/games.
Keep doing that till you start to notice problems and then revert to the best setting you had. (make sure to backup or not set on boot)
Once you go through all that then you can do it for individual mhz and see which can still be lowered.
This should keep you busy for a hour or so.
I'll share what I posted in another thread. Doing stress tests are fine, but if you test throughout the course of a day or more, you have the opportunity to come across situations you might not think of during testing.
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Ouch....I think the best way to experiment with undervolting is to use Voltage Control. Save the stock settings as your boot settings (it saves everything - governor, frequencies, etc; so, make sure those are what you want them to be as well), then undervolt (at the beginning of the day). If you make it to the end of the day with typical usage, you can save those as your new boot settings. Undervolt further at the beginning of another day, etc. Once you make it to the point where you get locked up, voltage control will set the previous values at boot and you'll know that those are your limits.
EDIT: If you want to play it extra safe, run values for more than one day.
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I'm at work right now trying not to get easily distracted by xda since I keep checking whether or not an ICS leak has been ported or something. Thanks guys for your much appreciated input. I've been running with all voltage values knocked down by 50mV with the exception of 1.4 and 1.6 GHz. Those I kept stock since I'm not overclocking. So far so good actually with sio/ondemand and Max 500 Mhz. It's surprisingly smooth and battery of course is doing exceptionally well at these settings. Switched over to voltage control for now.
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I personally have become very fond of voltage control where as I'd previously been using set-cpu for nearly ever since the H1 and mytouch days. Voltage controls just allows more freedom and tweakability.
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I personally have become very fond of voltage control where as I'd previously been using set-cpu for nearly ever since the H1 and mytouch days. Voltage controls just allows more freedom and tweakability.
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Right there with you. just "converted" to Voltage Control. (thanks Simba!)
K Rich said:
Right there with you. just "converted" to Voltage Control. (thanks Simba!)
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Heh, glad I'm not the only defector
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I'll share what I posted in another thread. Doing stress tests are fine, but if you test throughout the course of a day or more, you have the opportunity to come across situations you might not think of during testing.
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That's the post I was thinking of, I just honestly couldn't figure out where I saw it or who wrote it.
Many have complained about issues with the kernel in ICS. On any build, it is vital that you not use setcpu or any other cpu scaling app. Don't change the max/min freq, don't change the governer, nothing. Perflock will constantly reset any changes and cause the cpu to run at either full throttle or full min - no in between. Until we get kernel source and custom kernels, this will always be the case. It's something HTC does.
Many cpu monitor apps will do the same. The link in my sig has more info, and a link to a cpu monitor app that is safe to use with our kernel.
Actually when I was on the second ics leak, and setcpu worked fine. I know this because I benchmarked before and after setting frequencies
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benchmarking doesn't mean it wasn't running at full tilt when you didn't need it to. unless your kernel magically doesn't include perflock, it was.
also, there are some combinations of setcpu and monitoring that will work. at one point if i used setcpu, cpu monitor, and one other which i forget now, it would work, kind of. definitely not recommended.
Thats why I deaded mine. Phone was constantly overheating
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since i stop fighting with the kernel i've had nothing but great battery life and performance since the first ICS leak.
tsp, what i don't understand is why something like system panel, which shows you scaling (but doesn't let you change it) showed the proper correct scaling between 384 and 1512 and hardly EVER hit full throttle on GB, but on ICS, it's always showing full throttle.
then i installed your widget you showed me, and it showed constantly chagning like system panel used to on GB.
any idea why? which one is rgiht??
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since i stop fighting with the kernel i've had nothing but great battery life and performance since the first ICS leak.
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Agreed. I had set CPU try to disable perflock and limit to 1200mhz on conservative and it ended up being worse battery and slower overall.
You're exactly right I advise everyone I discuss the topic with to make sure and avoid trying to over ride perflock with a CPU management app. It causes a conflict in my opinion which is a huge battery drain and also causes excessive heat due to the process of fighting for its life.
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I've been saying this I even started a thread to smash this rumor of ICS kernels running bad...apparantely people like to give out wrong information on these forums, reminds me of the news channels.
THERE WAS NEVER ANYTHING WRONG WITH ANY ICS LEAKS. JUST USER FAULT
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I've been saying this I even started a thread to smash this rumor if ICS kernels running bad...apparantely people like to give out wrong information on these forums, reminds me of the news channels
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You are correct. I would say upwards of 20% of what I read here is incomplete or straight up wrong.
con247 said:
You are correct. I would say upwards of 20% of what I read here is incomplete or straight up wrong.
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My favorite part is when they try to sound like a dev, I guess everyone's a dev on here ;-P. At least I only say something I know from EXPERIENCE and not what I read ;-)
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tsp, what i don't understand is why something like system panel, which shows you scaling (but doesn't let you change it) showed the proper correct scaling between 384 and 1512 and hardly EVER hit full throttle on GB, but on ICS, it's always showing full throttle.
then i installed your widget you showed me, and it showed constantly chagning like system panel used to on GB.
any idea why? which one is rgiht??
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the widget i posted is what you want. it should be scaling up and down, and settling eventually when nothing is really going on. the system panel that you tried clearly affected the perflock in some way. from what i understand, some apps/widgets look at the cpu itself, while others hit up the kernel for status. the ones that hit up the kernel are the issue. i'm not 100% on this, that's just what i've been told. all i know is my experience seems to match this.
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Many have complained about issues with the kernel in ICS. On any build, it is vital that you not use setcpu or any other cpu scaling app. Don't change the max/min freq, don't change the governer, nothing. Perflock will constantly reset any changes and cause the cpu to run at either full throttle or full min - no in between. Until we get kernel source and custom kernels, this will always be the case. It's something HTC does.
Many cpu monitor apps will do the same. The link in my sig has more info, and a link to a cpu monitor app that is safe to use with our kernel.
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Hmm, that's weird, cause I've been using setCPU with ICS on the Rezound for months and it works great! My CPU scales fine and hits all the frequencies its supposed to. The min and max frequencies do change around seemingly randomly, but anyone can see by watching the current frequency display that it is always somewhere in between the range I selected, and always appropriate for the system load.
I've always had CPU Master installed. I just removed it, we'll see how it goes.
Hello
I'm using the Ultima rom and I need help undervolting. In Stweaks there are only sliders per frequency but on stock with Siyah kernel, there was a drop down list with -25 and -50 on it.
I don't know how to edit using the sliders. How can I get the drop down list back?
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Hello
I'm using the Ultima rom and I need help undervolting. In Stweaks there are only sliders per frequency but on stock with Siyah kernel, there was a drop down list with -25 and -50 on it.
I don't know how to edit using the sliders. How can I get the drop down list back?
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check for boeffla kernel it has drop down list but make sure it works for ur Rom or ull screw it up
No offense but if you can't figure out a slider, perhaps you shouldn't be undervolting.
Besides, most devs don't believe it saves battery anyway. After stopping undervolting recently myself, I'm inclined to agree
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rootSU said:
No offense but if you can't figure out a slider, perhaps you shouldn't be undervolting.
Besides, most devs don't believe it saves battery anyway. After stopping undervolting recently myself, I'm inclined to agree
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Nah, I finally learned how to do it using System Tuner. I was confused because when I moved the slider a bit, all the numbers changed and I couldn't figure out where the -25 was gonna be at. But I got it now.
Are you sure it doesn't attribute to battery life? I went a whole -100mV in general and for me it seems to have improved a bit. Not by much but it is noticeable.
Anything else you recommend? I'm completely new to the device, but I familiarize with tweaking very quickly.
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Nah, I finally learned how to do it using System Tuner. I was confused because when I moved the slider a bit, all the numbers changed and I couldn't figure out where the -25 was gonna be at. But I got it now.
Are you sure it doesn't attribute to battery life? I went a whole -100mV in general and for me it seems to have improved a bit. Not by much but it is noticeable.
Anything else you recommend? I'm completely new to the device, but I familiarize with tweaking very quickly.
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I've been undervolting for about 3 years but I have noticed no effects by ceasing this activity. I have noticed improved stability though. I actually notice more effects by tweaking things like CPU sample times etc
I use SetCPU
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I've been undervolting for about 3 years but I have noticed no effects by ceasing this activity. I have noticed improved stability though. I actually notice more effects by tweaking things like CPU sample times etc
I use SetCPU
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You mean better stability after or during the undervolting? And what's your stand on OC? Do you also think UC saves battery as well?
Lol sorry, I just like asking people that know about these things before I try messing with them.
Yeah its more stable at stock voltages.
I recently stopped overclocking. I don't have any particular reason not to overclock. I was troubleshooting an issue and overclocking and undervolting should be the first to go when doing this. Just didn't have a need to re-overclock.
One thing I would say though... if you're overclocking, don't add more voltage than 1400 MHz is set as stock... that adds heat. Heat + clock = damage
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Yeah its more stable at stock voltages.
I recently stopped overclocking. I don't have any particular reason not to overclock. I was troubleshooting an issue and overclocking and undervolting should be the first to go when doing this. Just didn't have a need to re-overclock.
One thing I would say though... if you're overclocking, don't add more voltage than 1400 MHz is set as stock... that adds heat. Heat + clock = damage
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I see. Thank you very much for all this.
But I ran into a problem. Screen flickering. When the screen is off and I press the home button, a bright flash appears then the lock screen turns on. That's the only problem I've been having and it's scaring me like crazy. I've seen some flickering issues but none like this one. Do you think it has to do with the volting? I've restored normal voltages and hasn't happened so far. It's happened twice since last night and today. Both after undervoltage. I hope that was the cause.
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I see. Thank you very much for all this.
But I ran into a problem. Screen flickering. When the screen is off and I press the home button, a bright flash appears then the lock screen turns on. That's the only problem I've been having and it's scaring me like crazy. I've seen some flickering issues but none like this one. Do you think it has to do with the volting? I've restored normal voltages and hasn't happened so far. It's happened twice since last night and today. Both after undervoltage. I hope that was the cause.
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I dont know tbh...
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No, it doesn't have anything to do with undervolting. It just happened again. I really can't tell what it is.
After reading the general forum a bit, I stumbled across a post from someone using the Seeder APK [Root required] to help mitigate some of the lag/stutter/UI weirdness some of us are seeing on the G3.
I had never heard of this app before, so I looked into it and found out more here.
I downloaded the APK and turned it all the way up. I enabled all it's options and let it work; and well it did. Specifically I saw a reduction in stutter when flipping to the recent apps screen, and generally improved performance with other UI animations like scrolling. Some are even reporting better performance with how third party keyboards animate and respond, a problem I had run into using Swiftkey.
I cannot explain why this is working and apparently neither can the developer, because the newer versions of Android do not handle the processes this is supposed to address in the same way. Give the thread a read and try it out, so far its made a difference for me and I'm happy with it. :laugh:
I've used seeder for a long time now over 3 different phones and it always seems to do the trick. I have been getting some laggy animations on the G3 (why can't these companies focus on making the experience smooth throughout :/ ) and seeder has seem to reduce the lag the most. I'm surprised how choppy the animations are on the G3 at times because my G2 ran like a dream most the time. I expected more from the G3 though it's still a great phone that imo is much better than the m8 and s5. I mostly assume it's down to the screen res and size and the fact that apps and android itself is becoming more and more resource hungry. I guarantee if you put ASOP 4.0-4.3 on this thing it would fly.
Do we download the latest apk from that forum you are providing?
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I don't know which forum to get it from. when I click where it says "here" that jumps into to the middle of another forum there's another link on that forum also to another forum
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sorry I believe I got it, in downloading seeder 2.0.0
It's been debunked by Google itself and there is no empirical evidence that it works at all.
edit: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42265
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
scy1192 said:
It's been debunked by Google itself and there is no empirical evidence that it works at all.
edit: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42265
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
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I have read that, however despite that information I do perceive a difference and no its not a placebo. I understand that the professionals cannot substantiate a change. All that I can suggest is that anyone that has a complaint regarding the G3 and laggy behavior...give this a shot. If it doesn't work, chuck it....if it does great!
Understanding why is works? Hmm yeah Id love to know.
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I have read that, however despite that information I do perceive a difference and no its not a placebo.
Understanding why is works? Hmm yeah Id love to know.
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There's no way you would be able to tell if it was placebo effect or not without a double blind study or some evidence to backup your claim other than observation.
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There's no way you would be able to tell if it was placebo effect or not without a double blind study or some evidence to backup your claim other than observation.
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Ok. Does that mean your not gonna try it?
Well, I can confirm that it works well for me. I can see significant difference right away. Thanks for @SJUnion for shearing.
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I don't know about anyone else but it did work for me. I can significantly noticed the difference
I have to agree, there is a significant improvement for me as well.
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Yes their is a very much of improvement of speed/no lag after installing, #mysimplepleasure
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Hooray for seeder!
People always try to debunk the fact that seeder works but the reviews in the google play store and my eyes have always told me otherwise. When a phone is very clearly lagging and then you install seeder and notice the change right after I don't think we need any experts to tell us our own eyes and mind are deceiving us. Experts have made a living off being wrong about things.
What Seeder settings is everyone running?
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What Seeder settings is everyone running?
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Aggressive, everything on. I don't think it does much to be honest.. but until they fix the launcher.. I wouldn't mind throwing whatever I can at it. For me, everything's good..but there's a definite loading lag when in the app drawer (the first time in it) or tapatalk (sometimes).. but the launcher home pages I'm all good..
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I have read that, however despite that information I do perceive a difference and no its not a placebo. I understand that the professionals cannot substantiate a change. All that I can suggest is that anyone that has a complaint regarding the G3 and laggy behavior...give this a shot. If it doesn't work, chuck it....if it does great!
Understanding why is works? Hmm yeah Id love to know.
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I've tried it on two phones and... I could find no difference that it made.
Disabling the Amazon apps fixed my lag issues.
Btw. Verizon puts that crap on their phones not LG so you can thank Verizon for the lag.
I have noticed while entering text in the text box in these forums that it does not update the typing.until I click back on the text box. Anyone else get that? Chrome BTW..
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Ok. Does that mean your not gonna try it?
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I've tried entropy generators in the past before I knew more about the subject and never saw a difference. This is programming, not magic. We know what Seeder does and we know how android works
The only users of /dev/random are libcrypto (used for cryptographic operations like SSL connections, ssh key generation, and so on), wpa_supplicant/hostapd (to generate WEP/WPA keys while in AP mode), and the libraries that generate random partition IDs when you do an ext2/3/4 format. None of those 3 users are in the path of app execution, so feeding random from urandom does nothing except make random… well… less random
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I tried the symlink method and could not detect any appreciable change in load averages under otherwise similar usage scenarios. I cannot find evidence of access to the /dev/random file. I cannot find similar wait paths in the kernel code that accesses the entropy pool that is shared by /dev/(random/random). That leaves other kernel locking or blocking mechanisms (spinlocks?) if there really is a responsiveness boost. I haven't seen conclusive evidence either way, I am just trying to understand what would possibly influence responsiveness should this hack prove founded in data.
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I'm sorry why no one is mentioning this, but the 'fix' involves running a daemon that writes to /dev/random every second. This daemon should affect the CPU freq governor and make the CPU run at higher clocks than a device without the daemon. This alone would account for the performance increase users claim to be experiencing.
I've played with CPU frequency governors in the past. Perception of lag is affected greatly by this.
The claims about the depleted entropy pool leading to lower performance are not substantiated. I am thinking that there shouldn't be such a huge dependency on /dev/random in Android to cause an appreciable performance difference.
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bobbarker2 said:
I've tried entropy generators in the past before I knew more about the subject and never saw a difference. This is programming, not magic. We know what Seeder does and we know how android works
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No problem Bob, and I understand where your coming from. Thanks for inserting logical analysis into this discussion, and for sharing what is known and understood about this apk.
Does that mean I will stop using it? No, because it works for me. Do I encourage others to try it? Yes, for the same reason. Do I accept that there are many that wouldn't even glance at this because its not supposed to work?...Yes. No big, I'm not the developer.
Afterthoughts..
From what I can glean I think this is what we may be seeing here - "I've played with CPU frequency governors in the past. Perception of lag is affected greatly by this."
Can we do this currently? I mean change CPU frequencies without an unlocked boot-loader and a custom ROM?
I just wonder how all this is affecting your battery life. Has anyone done any research into how these effect wake time and battery performance? Seems to be the idea is if you keep the cpu a bit active you get better performance? It seems to me that if that is the case then a less aggressive cpu governor would have the same or better effect on reducing lag. At least that is was I perceive after reading about entropy regarding cpu and different platforms. Linux and windows generate random numbers differently.
Turn on developer options.
Look in the options settings.
Set all animation values to .5x