I will have a S. Korean NFC-chip based phone, will NFC work in UK as I won't use any contract.
NFC will work, sure.
The question is what do you want out to do? All the NFC apps in the market will work, same as a Nexus S, if that's what you're asking.
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As Oyster card, be able to set up my VISA/Mastercard and pay for example at M&S. From what I get it reading latest news, you need to have a contract like with Orange and Orange have contract with M&S/VISA... to be able to pay. And 15USD is maximum.
How I get it, it wont work without contract to be able to use NFC to pay.
nicoliani said:
As Oyster card, be able to set up my VISA/Mastercard and pay for example at M&S. From what I get it reading latest news, you need to have a contract like with Orange and Orange have contract with M&S/VISA... to be able to pay. And 15USD is maximum.
How I get it, it wont work without contract to be able to use NFC to pay.
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NONE of that will work. Orange's system requires that you have their SIM card which has the NFC built in on that as well as specific phones that has the required application to make mobile payments.
As for Oyster... Well, it's Oyster. You can use the card and that's powered with RFID. At the moment no plans have been announced for mobile NFC payments there.
Im curious if anybody knows if ISIS ends up beating out Google Wallet, will it work on our phones since we have the NFC chips required? Will we be able to use either or when isis becomes available? I know Sprint is the only carrier supporting GW and all others are gonna support isis. I guess Im just hoping if GW does end up failing that we can use isis instead.
I would think that you need a device certification or some other nonsense for the carriers to keep a tight leash on it but its just a guess
I would hope that sprint will use it also since all other carriers are. I would be sorely dissopointed if GW fails and am stuck with a nfc chip I cant use for its intended purpose I actually use my phone to pay for stuff at 7-11 and various other places all the time lol
Actually the cm team has an open alternative for cm9 right now. Once the development on cm9 is far enough along I'm sure the developers will bring to cmx. You could then just unlock and flash.
I know people have asked questions similar to this before, but all of those threads seem to be from a while ago.
Does anyone know if there is anyway to get google wallet? We have NFC, why can't we use it?
Is there any other option to pay with NFC?
Thanks
Both Google and VZW say it's not our fault or we don't know, I asked a rep why they listed Google wallet as an advantage of having a smart phone but it wasn't offered and I got a non answer.
For other NFC VZW is part of IRIS which just launched but only in Salt Lake City and maybe one other place and it should be active on Inc 4G's there I think, it was part of the last update.
davidetkin511 said:
I know people have asked questions similar to this before, but all of those threads seem to be from a while ago.
Does anyone know if there is anyway to get google wallet? We have NFC, why can't we use it?
Is there any other option to pay with NFC?
Thanks
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Both Google and VZW say it's not our fault or we don't know, I asked a rep why they listed Google wallet as an advantage of having a smart phone but it wasn't offered and I got a non answer.
For other NFC VZW is part of IRIS which just launched but only in Salt Lake City and maybe one other place and it should be active on Inc 4G's there I think, it was part of the last update.
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Isis tells me my device isn't comparable, I got the otb update at the beginning of the month. But it says I might need a new SIM card for it to work.
For anyone who wants to store gift cards like on google wallet or apple passbook, pass wallet does a great job.
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Isis tells me my device isn't comparable, I got the otb update at the beginning of the month. But it says I might need a new SIM card for it to work.
For anyone who wants to store gift cards like on google wallet or apple passbook, pass wallet does a great job.
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You will need a new SIM, there is an encryption method used by Isis stored on the SIM.
I understand you can install Xposed framework & then spoof Google wallet to work in the UK, but I'm still curious, are there any Google wallet alternatives for the UK? Thank you!
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If you're talking about contactless payments, Orange do a "Quick Tap Wallet" app. Unfortunately it's only usable if you're on Orange and have a Galaxy S3 purchased directly from them. O2 may have something similar, but I've not looked into it.
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If you're talking about contactless payments, Orange do a "Quick Tap Wallet" app. Unfortunately it's only usable if you're on Orange and have a Galaxy S3 purchased directly from them. O2 may have something similar, but I've not looked into it.
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O2 have their wallet app but it doesn't support NFC payments yet. I read somewhere else in a forum that they would have it ready when the time is right. The Visa payWave app is coming at the end of the year, well at least that's what they put at the bottom of the screen during their advert. Google wallet does suport debit and credit cards now, so if you can get it working in the UK then it will work with more ease. Finally, Orange Tap to pay uses the sim card as a secure element, so it will work on most devices apart from nexus because google wants their customers to use wallet.
So really the only hope is Visa payWave for the moment.
any way to make Isis work since it won't work on rooted phone or other options?
Someone may eventually come up with a workaround but I'd just use google wallet, it's better anyhow.
When I got my g3 at the Verizon store, the usually pretty knowledgeable sales guy told me I needed a new sim for the g3, that my old vgnexus 4gLTE sim would work (yes, it did) but with that old sim in I would NOT have any NFC at all. No google wallet, no Isis, no bump to share, Nada. He said that is because the new sim enabled NFC on the Verizon LG G3.
He also said I would need ISIS, since it was going to succeed where Wallet had obviously failed. Hard to like Verizon, isn't it...but that unlimited grandfathered data...sigh.
I'm still using my SIM from my galaxy nexus and I have used Google wallet many times with my g3.
I'm pretty sure with wants goin on in Iraq Isis will be getting a new name soon.
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trent999 said:
When I got my g3 at the Verizon store, the usually pretty knowledgeable sales guy told me I needed a new sim for the g3, that my old vgnexus 4gLTE sim would work (yes, it did) but with that old sim in I would NOT have any NFC at all. No google wallet, no Isis, no bump to share, Nada. He said that is because the new sim enabled NFC on the Verizon LG G3.
He also said I would need ISIS, since it was going to succeed where Wallet had obviously failed. Hard to like Verizon, isn't it...but that unlimited grandfathered data...sigh.
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I can believe that a new sim needed for NFC to access the Secure Element, but standard NFC should work independent of the the sim (at least it did on my galaxy s3). Wallet only "failed" because all major carriers, save for Sprint, locked them out of the Secure Element to begin with. NFC Host Card Emulation, introduced in KitKat, solves this problem and permits Wallet to work on any phone with KitKat and NFC. Even if ISIS worked on rooted devices, I would not use it because of the dirty tactics it was born from.
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any way to make Isis work since it won't work on rooted phone or other options?
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Isis works if you install xposed with root cloak module.
Same here. I have no intention of ever running ISIS or whatever they change the name to. I use Google Wallet routinely and prefer merchants that accept it, including gas stations.
Works with all my Nexus devices, even the old Verizon Galaxy Nexuses once they are upgraded to KitKat via Roms like CM or Vanir.
root cloak then it is!
work like charm.
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root cloak then it is!
work like charm.
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Yep, RootCloak is awesome. I personally use Google Wallet, except on small purchases since ISIS is doing the "spend $1, get $1 back" promotion until the end of December now. So a $1 drink at McDonald's ends up costing me $.08 (NY sales tax) haha.
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Yep, RootCloak is awesome. I personally use Google Wallet, except on small purchases since ISIS is doing the "spend $1, get $1 back" promotion until the end of December now. So a $1 drink at McDonald's ends up costing me $.08 (NY sales tax) haha.
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right, we are cheap :sly:
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I can believe that a new sim needed for NFC to access the Secure Element, but standard NFC should work independent of the the sim (at least it did on my galaxy s3). Wallet only "failed" because all major carriers, save for Sprint, locked them out of the Secure Element to begin with. NFC Host Card Emulation, introduced in KitKat, solves this problem and permits Wallet to work on any phone with KitKat and NFC. Even if ISIS worked on rooted devices, I would not use it because of the dirty tactics it was born from.
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Verizon blocks use of the NFC secure element in the phone for things like Google wallet. There is a secure element on the SIM for ISIS. Verizon argued to the acc that they could certify the secure element in the phone was safe so they block it's access to their network. You can beam photos and stuff phone to phone....but anything done with it over the air must use the secure element on the SIM. I know there was a class action lawsuit against Verizon for this becaus they have a financial interest in blocking Google wallet vs making us use ISIS.
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So, the newer Google Wallet doesn't seem to require access to any secure element, on phone or sim, anymore since KutKat, right. The Verizon guy was just wrong, Wallet and bump to share would have worked fine with the old sim, just not ISIS ?
trent999 said:
When I got my g3 at the Verizon store, the usually pretty knowledgeable sales guy told me I needed a new sim for the g3, that my old vgnexus 4gLTE sim would work (yes, it did) but with that old sim in I would NOT have any NFC at all. No google wallet, no Isis, no bump to share, Nada. He said that is because the new sim enabled NFC on the Verizon LG G3.
He also said I would need ISIS, since it was going to succeed where Wallet had obviously failed. Hard to like Verizon, isn't it...but that unlimited grandfathered data...sigh.
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He lied. You might need a new SIM for ISIS because they store the secure element in the SIM not the phone.
Wallet emulates secure element now and doesn't need secure element on the phone or the SIM. The only real requirement is that you be running KitKat because touch to pay doesn't work on any older version of the OS.
NFC is built into the phone.
If you want ISIS on a rooted phone use Xposed and Root Cloak.