Hi everybody!! I have a question regarding MIUI lincensing. Is it open source or closed souce?? Because you can find the source code available to download at github, but in other sites it's said it is closed source. Maybe it is mixed source. What do you think?? I want to promote the freedom of Android, but I also love (really, I'm in love) MIUI.
anitadiamond22 said:
Hi everybody!! I have a question regarding MIUI lincensing. Is it open source or closed souce?? Because you can find the source code available to download at github, but in other sites it's said it is closed source. Maybe it is mixed source. What do you think?? I want to promote the freedom of Android, but I also love (really, I'm in love) MIUI.
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AFAIK its open source. It used to be closed source though.
Thanks for your fast response!! Any other thoughts??
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MIUI is closed sourced and in violation of the GPL laws. They have open sourced some apps partly but never fully. They are known for taking the work of others and not giving back to the dev community. Add in some real security issues.
Wayne Tech S-III
So MIUI's source is not actually in github, just some apps of it??
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anitadiamond22 said:
So MIUI's source is not actually in github, just some apps of it??
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Right. And not even the full source. That is why they are not respected around here. They took most of their coding from CM and then made it closed sourced.
Wayne Tech S-III
Mmm I don't like that. It's a shame since MIUI is by far my favourite rom out there. Do you think there's anything like it but open source. And please, don't tell me about OpenMIUI, it's ugly as hell.
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anitadiamond22 said:
Mmm I don't like that. It's a shame since MIUI is by far my favourite rom out there. Do you think there's anything like it but open source. And please, don't tell me about OpenMIUI, it's ugly as hell.
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Depends on what you mean by "anything like it" There are people working on taking MIUI and reverse enginering it and then gonna release the source but that is still some time away. MIUI doesnt do anything that most CM based roms dont do.
It violates gpl its a closed source.
It's one of the reasons why xda doesn't officialy support miui
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Now that the galnet att miui thread is closed where can we find updates? I am aware that we can go to the galnet site but I only see the I9100, correct me if I'm wrong but we will have problems if we try to flash this version. If we don't get our own version on galnet what needs to be modified from the I9100 version to be compatible with our device. Sorry if it's a dumb question or if it has been answered elsewhere.
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Best bet would be to try and get galnet to add support for the att sgs2
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Why are galnet roms not allowed on XDA?
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according to the mod who locked the thread said galnet is not allowed on xda. did this group do something?
Lets jump on miui.us forums. Those roms have ota support. The dev seems new though.
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http://pastebin.com/kDkd0D0i
Here is something I found on it. Seems like they were asking for donations to get beta releases of their Roms and XDA did not approve...
Mod please reply
I for one would really appreciate a response from a moderator as to why, particularly given the conversation pasted in the above post, why it is that these threads were killed. On the surface, it seems arbitrary and without merit...
Went through other galnet threads that were closed and the reason is that they don't release their source for the rom.
yea they are shady. Good roms but they do not comply to gpl.
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I just got a (pretty quick) response from zelendel:
Galnet has been banned from XDA for breaking mutiple rules.
Check here
http://www.galnetmiui.co.uk/landing...160-XDA-Developers?p=7923&viewfull=1#post7923
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what about the non-galnet miui? Is that one okay?
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quarlow said:
what about the non-galnet miui? Is that one okay?
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That one also got pulled, well for the AT&T version I know it did. I do believe it was something to do with Techn and not to do with MIUI.us
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http://pastebin.com/kDkd0D0i
Here is something I found on it. Seems like they were asking for donations to get beta releases of their Roms and XDA did not approve...
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JKAY does that....
dan_maran said:
That one also got pulled, well for the AT&T version I know it did. I do believe it was something to do with Techn and not to do with MIUI.us
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But did it get pulled because it was merged with the galnet version, or did it get pulled for other reasons?
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shoman94 said:
JKAY does that....
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yeah I remember seeing a few devs doing that back in the cappy forum a while back..
Galnet is gone... I'm not sure if we'll see the whole story, but from what I can see, I can say I don't like their attitude. It also looks like this is something that has taken a LONG time to reach finality.
As to why vanilla MIUI might have been pulled - I don't know. I'm fairly certain vanilla MIUI for the I777 was kosher GPL-wise, unless there's another GPL component beyond the kernel in question.
Here, this may enlighten the situation a bit...
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It means that the android kernel is protected by GPL laws. Which means the source code has to be made available. MIUI breaks these laws and refuses to post the source. So all MIUI roms have to have a custom kernel not made by the MIUI team.
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zelendel said:
Please use the proper site to talk about this Rom. The galnet site is your best bet as this Rom is not supported on XDA due to GPL violations.
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zelendel said:
It is built off of CM. The source has been asked for a few times and they flat out refuse to release the kernel source.
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So long story short, they violated several rules and GPL laws. They are gone and not coming back.
It didn't get pulled I had the admin removed it because it was to much drama at the time but it looks like I shouldnt have even tho I don't know as much as some ad these other dev, I'll reopen the thread and anyone is more than welcome to Help out with the development of the rom/port.
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Red5 said:
Here, this may enlighten the situation a bit...
Reference.
So long story short, they violated several rules and GPL laws. They are gone and not coming back.
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So you saying that as long as the miui rom is packaged with a open source available kernel it can be posted on xda ?
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shoman94 said:
So you saying that as long as the miui rom is packaged with a open source available kernel it can be posted on xda ?
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No, opposite. As long as they are not including the stock MIUI kernel with the rom then they are not breaking any XDA rules. But if you do see a MIUI rom including the stock MIUI kernel, thats where they break rules. There is a stock MIUI kernel built off of CM. The source has been asked for a few times and they flat out refuse to release the kernel source... so the upper staff decided to can the whole thing.
This is a Google+ post asking Samsung to release the source code for the bluetooth/audio/MHL/dock/display devices in our phone. If you're not aware, this code is NOT in the open source kernel. They are modules that load separately. We need this source code to make our phone the PERFECT Android phone. Cyanogenmod Dev Team can do wonders with this code! Please +1 this post or even make your own. We need to Samsung to hear us! Not all of us are programmers (definitely not me), so we need to contribute in other ways!
Jim
OccupySamsung!
I would say that the requested code might have some (if not all) proprietary code and even some "secret" code when it comes to the NHL part for the hdmi encryption...
But I could be completely wrong about that...
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Its possible, but any code drop would help. And the encryption you're thinking of would be HDCP and that should be handled by the chipset not the software.
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Just sent Samsung mobile USA a message on Facebook about the source code, hope they respond.
Please people, let's get Samsung to recognize us! We need this source to make our phones the best. I know I say that every couple of posts. I just hope that the guy above this post gets lots of 'likes' on his Facebook post to Sammy. Help him out guys/gals!
Jim
I actually once managed to get a message from a guy at Samsung Support telling me to reach out to SamsungJohn for developer needs...
I sent him a pretty nasty message back, going into post-by-post detail of SamsungJohn's complete failure to provide any help whatsoever to the developer community.
I'm seriously thinking that my next device will be a Sony - As much as I hate Sony in general, SE went above and beyond in terms of supporting the Cyanogenmod team, leading to their entire 2011 lineup being almost fully supported by CM. Meanwhile, Samsung sends a few CM team members devices as a publicity stunt and doesn't bother at all to provide any followup support.
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I actually once managed to get a message from a guy at Samsung Support telling me to reach out to SamsungJohn for developer needs...
I sent him a pretty nasty message back, going into post-by-post detail of SamsungJohn's complete failure to provide any help whatsoever to the developer community.
I'm seriously thinking that my next device will be a Sony - As much as I hate Sony in general, SE went above and beyond in terms of supporting the Cyanogenmod team, leading to their entire 2011 lineup being almost fully supported by CM. Meanwhile, Samsung sends a few CM team members devices as a publicity stunt and doesn't bother at all to provide any followup support.
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I saw the post you are talking about. And I sent a Twitter to SamsungJohn and never heard back. I know I keep talking about this, but something has to be changed. I'm on UnNamedROM right now, and while it's good, it's not CM. Maybe if Sammy releases ICS for the I9100/I777 then they'll release some more code for our phones. Probably don't want CM to show them up on releases. But either way, we need to make Samsung aware of our demands. And Entropy, thank you VERY much for your efforts with NFC, and WiFi tether. It's much appreciated!
Code was already released for S2 international version...see zedomax website.
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Code was already released for S2 international version...see zedomax website.
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And the significance of that for our i777 would be....?
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Code was already released for S2 international version...see zedomax website.
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Maybe I missed it. I did a search and came up with nothing.
Kadin said:
And the significance of that for our i777 would be....?
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It might help us start to port it to our own device
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SII 2 Envy said:
Code was already released for S2 international version...see zedomax website.
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No, it hasn't been released (except for the GPL kernel source) - nothing ICS-related, none of the audio libraries or anything like that have source code.
zedomax.com has nothing but pages and pages of stupid Top Five posts.
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No, it hasn't been released (except for the GPL kernel source) - nothing ICS-related, none of the audio libraries or anything like that have source code.
zedomax.com has nothing but pages and pages of stupid Top Five posts.
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galaxys2root.com and YouTube
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I tried reaching out to samsungjohn, too. Obviously no response.
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If only they would...I'm sure they're planning some event around it.
lol we can only hope.
The title says it all, anybody working on a public release that actually works? I tried with help to port my own, but it turns out I'm not smart enough to get it stable. There was a build on XDA, it got shut down. There's another build by a US MIUI site, but it is getting minimal support. Any good news for us MIUI fans¿
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bump it to the top big MIUI fan here and currently running "Outlaw Miui" and want progress. what we have is good but, there is massive room for improvement. yes I know "do it yourself" if I could I would and the thread would be in development and would be AWESOME.
Please support MIUI, thank you
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The title says it all, anybody working on a public release that actually works? I tried with help to port my own, but it turns out I'm not smart enough to get it stable. There was a build on XDA, it got shut down. There's another build by a US MIUI site, but it is getting minimal support. Any good news for us MIUI fans¿
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bump it to the top big MIUI fan here and currently running "Outlaw Miui" and want progress. what we have is good but, there is massive room for improvement. yes I know "do it yourself" if I could I would and the thread would be in development and would be AWESOME.
Please support MIUI, thank you
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Sending PM
WTF is a "Banned Developer"? Why should I care if a Dev is accused of Kanging? Its OK for a dev to use and modify a manufactures software and not to modify and use another dev’s work?
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misfit0313 said:
WTF is a "Banned Developer"? Why should I care if a Dev is accused of Kanging? Its OK for a dev to use and modify a manufactures software and not to modify and use another dev’s work?
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thats what i dont get
we are all kanging google's codes
flex360 said:
thats what i dont get
we are all kanging google's codes
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He was banned for using a puppet account after his previous account was banned. Not necessarily for Kanging anything.
I don't know the details, just what the MODs have said while locking these threads.
I really miss miui.
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The official release of miui 4.1 JB for the HTC One X is today. Maybe this will get us one step closer for a stable build for our phones?
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So.... I was thinking of trolling XDA with some of my negativity. Then I stumbled on this.... It seems to be the source code for Optimus G... Good luck and have fun? I don't know anything about development so I downloaded this before posting it on here. Looks right. Believe in me and LG?
http://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensource-detail.jsp
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So.... I was thinking of trolling XDA with some of my negativity. Then I stumbled on this.... It seems to be the source code for Optimus G... Good luck and have fun? I don't know anything about development so I downloaded this before posting it on here. Looks right. Believe in me and LG?
http://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensource-detail.jsp
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Looked for the source code and the code is for ICS, not JB yet. Have heard that the code for the Korean one is up to be released the next week, and that is all the Devs need to start creating a Kernel they can use with all sorts of AOSP ROMs (e.g. CM10).
Disclaimer, this is just my understanding, not a given fact.
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Looked for the source code and the code is for ICS, not JB yet. Have heard that the code for the Korean one is up to be released the next week, and that is all the Devs need to start creating a Kernel they can use with all sorts of AOSP ROMs (e.g. CM10).
Disclaimer, this is just my understanding, not a given fact.
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Yep, source for JB will greatly help with the AOSP roms, CM10, etc; the ICS source code is apparently really terribly put together, so it was of little use.
Software version says it all....
So I got excited for no reason. And here I thought I made a huge contribution to XDA..
geokilla said:
So I got excited for no reason. And here I thought I made a huge contribution to XDA..
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Go back to your negativity you're better at it
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shook187 said:
Go back to your negativity you're better at it
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You made me laugh in bed and wake up my wife.
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nygfan760 said:
Yep, source for JB will greatly help with the AOSP roms, CM10, etc; the ICS source code is apparently really terribly put together, so it was of little use.
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So if the JB source looks like cancer too...
What do we do then?
Just cry?
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So if the JB source looks like cancer too...
What do we do then?
Just cry?
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N4 convert!
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bleached45 said:
So if the JB source looks like cancer too...
What do we do then?
Just cry?
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I died
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Just read this article about CM going corporate do you think this will affect us in the long run???
http://www.ootpapps.com/2013/09/cyanogenmod-inc-betrayal-spirit-android/
http://gearburn.com/2013/09/cyanogenmod-goes-prime-time/
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I've been trying to make some sense of it too. Would like to hear opinions.
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NYCtoCOE said:
Just read this article about CM going corporate do you think this will affect us in the long run???
http://androidfannetwork.com/2013/0...better-android-and-maybe-a-cyanogenmod-phone/
http://www.ootpapps.com/2013/09/cyanogenmod-inc-betrayal-spirit-android/
http://androidfannetwork.com/2013/09/21/the-dark-side-of-cyanogenmod-aka-cyanogen-inc/
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Looks like more negativity then positivity to me.... i think it just might affect us, if their ignoring,shafting and trolling contributers whos going to want to contribute? Looks like CM has joined my ignore rom list alongside Flex360........ oh well, they come and they go and more devs come & create greatness
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Looks like more negativity then positivity to me.... i think it just might affect us, if their ignoring,shafting and trolling contributers whos going to want to contribute? Looks like CM has joined my ignore rom list alongside Flex360........ oh well, they come and they go and more devs come & create greatness
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Yup, looks like AOSPA, AOKP, and others will be where the actions at!
I keep trying the links from OP and they just go to androidfannetwork with links for apartment hunting, what's new in Vegas, etc. :what:
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I think they accomplished what we would all hope for profitability. Doesn't make the tech they put into the now called products they build any less just means they have to play by a different set of rules and the challenge to produce the same quality of work will be impacted. Sure as users we will lose and gain some features. I just hope they don't forget how they got to where they're at and start charging us or worse stop free rom development.
That's what I'm thinking. CM isn't going to be free anymore.
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polar2792 said:
That's what I'm thinking. CM isn't going to be free anymore.
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I'm pretty sure its illegal to sell something that's free/open sourced. CM cannot use android and make a Rom and then sell it. Android is open source.
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True yes but then they are Inc. which means as soon as they are contracted to make a retail phone rom then why would they keep making a free rom. It maybe open source but open source does not mean free. May mean that you can use the codes libs and so on for your own development but if it were free red fedora and Ubuntu wouldn't be making money.
KillerofJoy's i535 Rocking MOAR, and CM 11. Can't be helped, flash junky.
I don't believe it would be a bad idea.