Not sure if anyone else is experiencing or noticing this, or if it's just me, but the pictures produced by my HTC One are often soft around the edges while sharp in the middle and seem to have a fair bit of noise. Attached are sample images. I have not unlocked the bootloader, it is completely bone stock.
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Not sure if just me or if my expectations of the camera were higher than they should have been.
The camera is one of questionable execution. 4mp bundled with a high quality image sensor capable of 13mp and image cpu. I would not be surprised if HTC releases a camera update that lets the end user choose above 4mp.
I'm still skeptical of the camera but this phone is the most powerful I've owned.
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8125Omnimax said:
The camera is one of questionable execution. 4mp bundled with a high quality image sensor capable of 13mp and image cpu. I would not be surprised if HTC releases a camera update that lets the end user choose above 4mp.
I'm still skeptical of the camera but this phone is the most powerful I've owned.
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It's got to be something I am doing wrong. I have yet to take a photo on this thing that doesn't have copious amounts of noise.
dmobile1337 said:
It's got to be something I am doing wrong. I have yet to take a photo on this thing that doesn't have copious amounts of noise.
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Try taking down Sharpness to -1 or -2.
yea same dmobile1337. i dont know if i have to change some setting or what. every time i take a picture, i notice lots of noise and when i zoom in a little, clarity is significantly gone. i know a 4mp cant have the same res as a higher mp camera but after reading that the htc one camera is short of amazing, i am now starting to wonder if i got a defective unit.
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and i think the camera is fine give the devs some time and its going to get lots better the default camera on the onex was great after some tweaks it was OMFG !!! good
The softness is the ois. If you read anandtechs review he points this out. Its a software bug I imagine HTC will fix.
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yea same dmobile1337. i dont know if i have to change some setting or what. every time i take a picture, i notice lots of noise and when i zoom in a little, clarity is significantly gone. i know a 4mp cant have the same res as a higher mp camera but after reading that the htc one camera is short of amazing, i am now starting to wonder if i got a defective unit.
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It is kind of awkward for HTC to brand an "enhanced" 4mp camera for it's "epic" phone, but then again compare it to other phones on the prepaid side that are still stuck with 5mp cameras and run on decent hardware, the quality is noticeably better on the HTC one.
The unit is not defective, I doubt HTC would have left out the option to utilize a high quality 4mp mode with the ability to shoot in higher resolution.
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The Camera is Beautiful take i assure you. i mean its not no SLR but still :good: this is a picture of the virgin Mary statue i have in my home
I've had the same problem. If I take a picture of something, the entire picture doesn't seem in focus. There's usually a corner of the picture that's blurry or soft and it's really aggravating me. After what all the reviews said about the camera I'm just not seeing anything to be impressed about. It's also really noisy like someone else said.
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Yeah, camera feels not much better than my note 2 personally, but I wish I still had it so I could compare and find out, as it is I've just got a samsung focus flash to compare with, and of course that offers no real comparison.
Buy a dslr? Jk lol
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The Camera is Beautiful take i assure you. i mean its not no SLR but still :good: this is a picture of the virgin Mary statue i have in my home
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That picture looks great! Tell me though, are you stock or running a custom rom? The international base is a later revision than stock ATT and I read somewhere when I was drunk (so I guess it might have been nothing but I remember reading it...) that HTC made some camera improvements later on. Makes me wonder if those are in the base that the international version is running, or that the lion's share of custom roms available to us are on.
Not trying to gripe, I love everything about this phone. In fact, it's such a great device that I expect it is something I am doing wrong or something that HTC has already fixed that hasn't trickled down yet.
I've been pleasantly surprised with the quality of pictures, particularly in daylight.
This is through a pollen-covered windshield, real quick snap before my light turned green.
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That picture looks great! Tell me though, are you stock or running a custom rom? The international base is a later revision than stock ATT and I read somewhere when I was drunk (so I guess it might have been nothing but I remember reading it...) that HTC made some camera improvements later on. Makes me wonder if those are in the base that the international version is running, or that the lion's share of custom roms available to us are on.
Not trying to gripe, I love everything about this phone. In fact, it's such a great device that I expect it is something I am doing wrong or something that HTC has already fixed that hasn't trickled down yet.
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i am running a international ROM. Revolution. touch sensitivity is not an issue either. these things will eventually get fixed in the ATT phones soon i am sure. cant wait until we have S-OFF or super cid
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i am running a international ROM. Revolution. touch sensitivity is not an issue either. these things will eventually get fixed in the ATT phones soon i am sure. cant wait until we have S-OFF or super cid
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Just finished unlocking the bootloader, installing a recovery and getting AR HD installed. It was clearly a random software issue that not everyone is experiencing, and has been corrected. My camera seems better than ever at the moment. Thank you all!
Its because the international ROMs have updated software. Past several ROM leaks improved the camera, video, and other stuff
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Its because the international ROMs have updated software. Past several ROM leaks improved the camera, video, and other stuff
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Yeah, it's a pretty big improvement. Still noise but not nearly as bad.
I wonder how many months it will be until the AT&T model gets this simple update?
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I wonder how many months it will be until the AT&T model gets this simple update?
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They are probably busy compatibility testing their preloaded apps or making updates and tweaks of their own for performance. Or making sure that if you use one of their preloaded apps on the new build it doesn't brick the device or something horribly sinister like that. I am an instant gratification type, but working in corporate america taught me that software updates are far from an overnight thing. I wish it had come out closer to release so I didn't have to install a custom ROM but I am sincerely glad I took the time to do so. Back button hold for menu is a real life saver in some apps and the camera improvements are worth it as well. If you choose to wait and keep stock, good things are right around the corner.
Related
http://phandroid.com/2011/07/06/htc-evo-3d-vs-htc-evo-4g-2d-camera-comparison-forum-talk/
Mainly posted this for all the comments I read stating...I hate the evo 3d I wish it was the same phone just without the 3d and with the same camera as the evo because 8 is 3 more higher giggerpixels than 5...
point of the thread is...MEGAPIXELS ARE NOT A TRUE INDICATION OF WHAT IS "BETTER". same goes for quadrant scores...anyway thanks for reading, comment beeeeeeeeeeeeeeelow
While I agree that megapixels do not matter so much when it comes to picture quality I have to say my E4G took much better pictures than what he has there. It can't compete with my Canon T1i, but, as someone mentions in the comments there, the stock ROM was made to use the Evo's camera and takes much better pictures than anything I've seen CM7 take. Honestly I was impressed with the Evo 4Gs camera when it was used with proper lighting.
My 3d takes much better pics then my 4g. The colors and clarity have been much better for me on the 3d.
I do not understand why anyone has complained about the camera. The only complaint I have is I wish there was no delay when taking a picture and I would truly be happy. This of course is not a complaint just towards the 3d but seems to be the norm for all camera phones.
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While I agree that megapixels do not matter so much when it comes to picture quality I have to say my E4G took much better pictures than what he has there. It can't compete with my Canon T1i, but, as someone mentions in the comments there, the stock ROM was made to use the Evo's camera and takes much better pictures than anything I've seen CM7 take. Honestly I was impressed with the Evo 4Gs camera when it was used with proper lighting.
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I wasn't saying the evos camera was bad, just not that it was far superior to the 3vo bc it has 3 more megapixels
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I posted this link in another thread.
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My 3d takes much better pics then my 4g. The colors and clarity have been much better for me on the 3d.
I do not understand why anyone has complained about the camera. The only complaint I have is I wish there was no delay when taking a picture and I would truly be happy. This of course is not a complaint just towards the 3d but seems to be the norm for all camera phones.
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If you go to settings when in the stock camera app go to 'review duration' and select 'no review' and off and the delay is gone. Makes taking pics real snappy.
Is it just me or did a lot of the 8mp pics look much better, more life-like and realistic. Just the first picture looked better with the 5mp to me. Who knows though...I'm old and probably need glasses.
Thank for the link bro, just watch on how you use idiots.... People get offended easily and wont respect your opinion.... i love my camera, lol look at my M&Ms thread
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Thank for the link bro, just watch on how you use idiots.... People get offended easily and wont respect your opinion.... i love my camera, lol look at my M&Ms thread
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those M&Ms look awesome BTW...
Although I do love my phone very much, I think fanaticism is to blame... Fanatics are the guys who get mad at any little negative comment or personal opinion that does not agree with their logic. i.e.- the whole camera thing ii treated ii is mentioning... I swear it's like people use "Text search" on the page and look for threads that say IMO, or I THINK... It's kinda pathetic. A valid point I say OP.
IMO I think either camera can take amazing pictures depending on the circumstances. I own both phones and I can tell you, some pics look like crap, some look awesome. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.
Megapixels don't matter, sensor quality does. The Evo 3D sensor is a noisy mess, as are most small phone-friendly sensors, but the Evo 3D is just average at best.
Please. Massive rationalization. (Yeah, I know...from an idiot, lol).
You can only make judgements by using your own phone, your own eyes, vs other phones. Not shots via other cameras via other links/sites/unknown settings.
I've done so many comparisons...hundreds (E3D vs 4G; E3d vs SGS2; E3d vs other E3D's!....yeah camera quality was important to me this round!... that I'm really over this
But:
The average (all lighting) 2D pics in the Evo 3D are:
1. In the 2011 smartphone arena are p o o r! It's a great device but this is a fact.
.2.Are substandard vs the 4G (although settings workarounds can bring it close). Go to a sprint store. Fairly compare in average lighting.
3. Are flat out dull compared to the 8mp Sensation...which is a slight upgrade to 4G.
4. Vs SGS2, IPhone or Sony Arc? Don't need to go there!...although I think this is gonna change with HTC devices from here on out.
If you take your phone and compare to the other devices in various conditions I think you'll agree.
Still really like the E3D tho....thing smokes! Don't really know what updates/rooting will do but we'll see.
the bottom line for me is camera-wise, i want a phone that takes clear pictures that i can semi-blow up and keep "good" quality. I don't care how good they actually are, so long as i can see them and no areas are blotchy...but once again let me see to everyone, this had nothing to do with the quality of the evo 3d's camera. It has to do with the fact that people simply are assuming 8mp>5mp...not true. that is the point of my post, not that the evo 3d has a great or better than XXX's camera. wrong idea here...
Was trying to find a post somewhat related to the camera quality on the E3D (takes a while to do so on said phone) without making a new post. Here are a few pics I have taken with my phone.
Enjoy.
Edit: Seems that my phone didn't upload the same picture size for each photo even though they were all taken the same way...
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Hey all! Looks like I'm switching from sprint where I currently have an Epic 4G (rooted) I'm not sure if I should get an Atrix or the Samsung Infuse?
If I root the Atrix can I use the Amazon Marketplace?
Do you all recommend the Atrix. Or something else? It looks like I'm pretty much bound to at&t. I'm sure gonna miss the slider keyboard on my epic
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after you get used to the touchscreen, more than likely you won't miss your keyboard. the atrix rocks. unlock your bootloader first. and read the instructions thoroughly before you do. we don't need another 'i brick my atrix' thread.
oh yeah. amazon marketplace. there's an app for that. seriously.
sndtubes said:
Hey all! Looks like I'm switching from sprint where I currently have an Epic 4G (rooted) I'm not sure if I should get an Atrix or the Samsung Infuse?
If I root the Atrix can I use the Amazon Marketplace?
Do you all recommend the Atrix. Or something else? It looks like I'm pretty much bound to at&t. I'm sure gonna miss the slider keyboard on my epic
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I would definitely recommend the Atrix over the Infuse. The Infuse may have a bigger display with better colors, but in terms of specs the Atrix is more future proof being a dual core device with 1gb of ram. Look at one in person before you buy it though and make sure you're ok with a pentile display.
If you install the Gingerbread OTA, you dont even need to root since AT&T changed their sideloading policy. You should still root the phone, though. And unlock the bootloader. The blur based roms arent that bad, and if you can live without a camera this phone just flies with CM7.
My old phone had a hardware keyboard and I miss it. Try swype, it comes with the stock firmware. Its not as good, but its still better than most virtual keyboards.
Get the ATRIX. My single core xperia doesn't even come close. I have pics of two ROMS of my ATRIX in my album/photos section of my profile. Give it a look.
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i love my atrix, and the roms are realy coming along nicely now with unlocked bootloader
ATRIX...hdmi out,dlna,tethering,fingerprint unlock,1930mah battery,quality built software and hardware.
GOOD PHONE.
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How would you rate the camera? Thanks for the responses so far.
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ATRIX...hdmi out,dlna,tethering,fingerprint unlock,1930mah battery,quality built software and hardware.
GOOD PHONE.
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Agreed, just picked one up coming from VZW with a heavily modded HTC Incredible running CM7. Night and day difference in terms of performance (including the network!). I haven't even had to mod this yet, the stock Gingerbread ROM is great and I even enjoy Motoblur.. my first Android without Launcher Pro! I've rooted it, thats all.. once the guys @ CM (love you by the way) get the ROM fully functioning I'll make the switch.
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How would you rate the camera? Thanks for the responses so far.
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Coming from my DInc (which has an 8MP camera, a great one at that), the Atrix's is just as good if not sharper despite being lower resolution. Here is an un-edited pic I snapped yesterday in a parking lot of my car for kicks.
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn270/f1r3s1d3/2011-08-15_09-56-08_627.jpg?t=1313432900
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Coming from my DInc (which has an 8MP camera, a great one at that), the Atrix's is just as good if not sharper despite being lower resolution. Here is an un-edited pic I snapped yesterday in a parking lot of my car for kicks.
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For some reason people associate mega pixels with image quality. They're totally unrelated. MP's just let you crop more from the picture before it looks like pixelated garbage but it has nothing to do with sharpness, color, or anything else. Generally the more MP's you try to fit on the same CCD sensor the more horrible your pictures become due to the heat generated by the sensors being crammed so close and it's called picture noise
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For some reason people associate mega pixels with image quality. They're totally unrelated. MP's just let you crop more from the picture before it looks like pixelated garbage but it has nothing to do with sharpness, color, or anything else. Generally the more MP's you try to fit on the same CCD sensor the more horrible your pictures become due to the heat generated by the sensors being crammed so close and it's called picture noise
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totaly true,just like lcd televisions there are 720p 40 inch tv,s put out a better picture then alot of 1080p 40 inch tv,s, so same story as the camera the bigger number doesnt neccesarily mean it will produce a better image
I think its currently the best phone in the market. My friend has been waiting for the bionic. but I love my Atrix since i bought it a few month ago. Camera/video camera quality is pretty good. I have recorded 720p and 1080p. quality is the same. 720 will do for now. I have had some complains about in-call voice volume that people cant hear me well but that happens once or twice a week. these are very small things to be worried about. I just cant wait for ATT to upgrade their HSPA so we can get full 4G.
HTC pre-MWC Press Conference 2/26
follow along the PC here at the below links:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/26/live-from-the-htc-press-conference-at-mwc-2012/
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/26/live-from-htcs-mwc-2012-press-conference/
with ustream feed...http://www.coolsmartphone.com/2012/02/26/mwc-htc-event-live
HTC Media Link
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/26/htc-reveals-media-link-wireless-hdmi-adapter/
HTC Sense 4.0
*Dropbox integration-> 25Gb storage for 2yr free!
*WiFi Sync enabled, allowing you to sync with your PC over WiFi after installing music manager and syncing once
**BeatsAudio-> fully Integrated to work across ANY 3rd party app!!
*ImageSense: Completely revamped camera area...auto focus is 0.2sec, shutter time of 0.7sec
*Dual Shutter Camera Module->allows you to record video and take pics at same time
Phones Launching Global starting April
HTC OneX (high end)
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*ATT Exclusive in US and US version has LTE 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon S4 by Qualcomm NOT Terga3. 1.5GHz clocked Terga3 is ONLY for the Global version.
*4.7in 1280x720 non-pentile Super LCD 2 display
*8MP Camera HTC ImageChip, f2.0 aperture(which offers 44% more light) and 1080p HD video recording capability.
*Sense4.0
*1GB DDR2 and 32GB of built-in storage -- 26GB of which is available to the user
*1.3MP front camera
*polycarbonate unibody design, "super durable"
*3D gorilla glass
*1800mAh battery
*NO SD Expansion Slot
*9.27mm thick
Nice article by anandtech on the chips and phones themselves...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5584/htcs-new-strategy-the-htc-one
HTC OneS(mid range)
*T-Mobile gets this first in US coming in Spring
Finish on this device sounds nuts!
*Take aluminum body and bathe it in a plasma field turning it into ceramic basically and making it SCRATCH RESISTANT
*Sense 4.0
*their thinnest phone yet evidently at 7.9mm thick
*4.3 inch Super AMOLED display
*dual-core 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4(MSM8260A)
*8MP Camera HTC ImageChip, f2.0 aperture(which offers 44% more light) and 1080p HD video recording capability.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/26/...th-dual-core-power-engineered-meta/#continued
HTC OneV(low end)
*Quadband WCDMA GSM device...
*Sense4.0(earlier Engadget ran article saying it was 3.6 so i dunno as they now say 4.0)
*3.7-inch WVGA LCD display Gorila Glass
*1GHz single-core (S2 according to BGR.com but not sure bout this) affair buffered by 512MB RAM
*4GB onboard with plans to augment that capacity via 25GB of Dropbox, as there's no available microSD slot
*1,500mAh battery
*5MP camera with f/2.0 lens 720p recording.
*NO front facing camera
*WITH Micro-SD Card slot!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/26/htc-one-v-unveiled-sense-3-6-on-ics-beats-audio-3-7-inch-wvga/
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Below is the Previous Rumored Info:
got this from the Sensation general section thanks to loni90..
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-sense-40-first-impressions
loni90 said:
New things and improvements in Sense 4.0:
- Landscape mode now also in home screen (with optimized buttons etc)
- No on-screen buttons (as on Nexus) but will adopt the 3 buttons (prev. 4)
- 3D Task manager
-Better lockscreen, with better integrated notifications etc.
- Overall better Email
-Better Browser, with Read later and Watch later functions. Introducing a new Reader feature.
- Guest mode, lets your friends only test some basic stuff (no phone, data, and special apps)
- Better Camera - when it detects a face, it takes 5 pics and chooses the best one.
- DropBox integrated (50 GB Free storage!! WTF?!!)
-Beats Audio will be universal, meaning allowed in 3rd part apps (Spotify etc.)
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Now i doubt we see this version of sense as stated in the article its likely to be first seen on the new phones.....So itll likely be Sense 3.6 for us and thats it, and the Dev's will bring us greatness soon as those devices hit the streets. Though ill likely be getting one of those devices anyway. lol
Sense 4.0 likely to be shown off along with some other devices at their event at MWC on 2/26.
http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/htc-sends-out-02-26-mwc-event-invitations-what-can-we-expect
(neither of the rumored devices seem linked to Sprint anyway, though likely we will see something from them at/near CTIA)...
Update: 1/31
now we have video it seems...
http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/31/unann...-4-0-and-sense-4-0-shown-off-in-leaked-video/
Alternate: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ing-htc-ville-shows-up-will-sense-4-ruin-ics/
2/12 New Pics from the Endeavor leak RUU:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492567 & http://www.htc-hub.com/htc/actualites/premieres-images-finales-de-sense-4-0/
UPDATE:2/17/12
Video of Sense 4.0 running on the Sensation now...
TripNRaVeR did some work getting the RUU ported over to them evidently HERE
Sounds good, I was liking joelz 3.6 and there wasn't a ton of differences between 3.5, I thought it looked better visually, but THIS, sounds pretty sweet, I'll welcome 4.0 to my phone when its available for us...
Sounds pretty sweet were did they get this news from?
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Sounds pretty sweet were did they get this news from?
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did u see the link in my post? lol
Ha woops I didn't notice it i only saw the quote :$ thx
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I can't wait to get 50 gb on dropbox! Holy facking sh!t I'm staying HTC, was thinking of going Samsung on my next upgrade, not anymore!
holy **** just read it and it sounded amazing only thing that upset me a lil was them not going with on screen buttons :'( i was actually looking forward to that. just cant wait to see what it actually looks like but from the sound of it we will not be dissapointed and im thinking sense might no longer be hated by so many
I just can't understand people who want on screen buttons... I'd never wanna lose that kinda screen real estate.
If the phone was designed for it, than sure, but not on my 3d.
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I just can't understand people who want on screen buttons... I'd never wanna lose that kinda screen real estate.
If the phone was designed for it, than sure, but not on my 3d.
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oh haha i guess i should've specified i dont want it on my 3d that doesnt make much sense to have the buttons when there are 4 perfect ones right below. i like how on the galaxy nexus the screen is extra tall so that the buttons can be there without stealing any screen space that would normally be there but when u want it like for video playback or who knows what the buttons can go away and now u got this super giant screen. from what that article says it sounds like htc isnt going to be implementing that on future devices which i hope changes.
OMG!. universal Beats?!?
Great stuff!
Saw 3.6 and was actually quite impressed with the polish and hints of ICS menus. But now reading this just makes its so much better.
HTC's Sense was the best skin on Android back then (well, still is from other manufacturers) and that's when they wanted to stand out and make the android experience a better one. In the middle they kind of stagnated, didn't improve it much but by this line on Androidandme site:
If you think that custom skins are too intrusive, we’re sure you’ll be pleased to hear that HTC Sense 4.0 is a “step in the right direction".
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Looks like they are going back to improving on what android has to offer, and to improve on the eye candy of ICS, well it'll be immense (ok maybe not immense, that's just my excitement levels going up lol)
Seems like the dock bar is the arched one? Hmm...
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felacio said:
OMG!. universal Beats?!?
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+1 Google music yes!
locked & loaded
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Seems like the dock bar is the arched one? Hmm...
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I think they just blurred a picture of regular sense there wouldn't read into it much...
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I think they just blurred a picture of regular sense there wouldn't read into it much...
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Unless it was bliss sense? It had the sense 3.5 bliss weather widget
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Hope we get a port cause upon setting up with 4.0, you get 50gb from dropbox!
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Well some of the Sensation guys seem to feel overly confident about devices getting updated to Sense 4.0....stating that the "The Incredible S, Desire S, Desire HD..." all got sense updates recently...
me personally i think we only see it if/when a dev ports it. I think this update to ICS will be the last one we get unless google releases a big bug update to ICS thats important before the end of the year...
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Well some of the Sensation guys seem to feel overly confident about devices getting updated to Sense 4.0....stating that the "The Incredible S, Desire S, Desire HD..." all got sense updates recently...
me personally i think we only see it if/when a dev ports it. I think this update to ICS will be the last one we get unless google releases a big bug update to ICS thats important before the end of the year...
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I'm sure the 3D will receive sense 4.0 too. It's sprints flagship phone for "right now"
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I'm sure the 3D will receive sense 4.0 too. It's sprints flagship phone for "right now"
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I was kinda under the impression that the GS2 (soon to be replaced by Nexus) and iPhone were Sprint's flagship phones... I doubt we'll get Sense 4.0 simply because it will probably be on some hot new Sprint device and they want you to go out and buy it so that you can experience Sense 4.0
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I'm sure the 3D will receive sense 4.0 too. It's sprints flagship phone for "right now"
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Eh.. With how the evo 4G got epically shafted.. I'll take a wait and see approach
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I know everybody wants to switch to a new phone, and one of the reasons is the newest htc camera is so much better than anything else...or is it? Maybe waiting one more generation is the way to go.....http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773.php
This thread says otherwise
well of course it does, they all own the phone and they are coming from older phones. Fact is no one in the 1000 people sampled could pick out the htc photos. Well maybe thats a good thing?
There is alot more to a smartphone than its camera, the evo 3d is the exception because 3d is the headline feature.....point being HTC has designed a good phone (albeit with a few niggles for a selected bunch of models), The camera is the cherry on the cake, now people can decide if they want the whole experience i.e. the cake, or just the cherry i.e. the standout feature from the proverbial or literal sh**
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I know everybody wants to switch to a new phone, and one of the reasons is the newest htc camera is so much better than anything else...or is it? Maybe waiting one more generation is the way to go.....http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773.php
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Is the camera better than my phone? By miles. Am I looking to get the LTE based on its camera? Not at all.
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There is alot more to a smartphone than its camera, the evo 3d is the exception because 3d is the headline feature.....point being HTC has designed a good phone (albeit with a few niggles for a selected bunch of models), The camera is the cherry on the cake, now people can decide if they want the whole experience i.e. the cake, or just the cherry i.e. the standout feature from the proverbial or literal sh**
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That might not be true, actually cell phones are so much alike that one phone having a much better camera than the others might turn out to be it's biggest feature. At any given moment there might be almost as many people taking pictures with a cell phone as there are making a call, heck a lot of people just text or use it for web surfing.
I think the real question here is, what camera would meet YOUR standards? There are a lot of people out there who say the camera is raising the bar, and obviously, you're a skeptic. Am I right?
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I think the real question here is, what camera would meet YOUR standards? There are a lot of people out there who say the camera is raising the bar, and obviously, you're a skeptic. Am I right?
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I would love to have the lte\one x camera on my evo3d, i'm not that great at taking pictures and would like to get better. I just like to read and found the camera comparison to be quite interesting. Maybe I should have said camera great but not the greatest? Let me add one thing, is there anyone who wouldn't want this camera on their next phone? And i mean camera only. That would be raising the bar by a huge amount.
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That might not be true, actually cell phones are so much alike that one phone having a much better camera than the others might turn out to be it's biggest feature. At any given moment there might be almost as many people taking pictures with a cell phone as there are making a call, heck a lot of people just text or use it for web surfing.
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Thats not exactly what I mean.... You don't buy the phone JUST based on the camera alone... Its the whole package.... The one x camera is great, but in these tests all the settings have to be equal and thats a user oriented thing as to how each individuals perception of a good quality image is, there are too many variables.
IMO HTCs camera settings have never been the best straight out the box... My desire hd had that issue and the same with the evo 3d, but then its to my taste and everyone's is different, unless the image is just **** lol
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S3 Cam > One X, LTEvo cam
Cry about it.
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S3 Cam > One X, LTEvo cam
Cry about it.
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Glad to see people comparing the One X/EVO 4G LTE with a phone that isn't even in their hand yet.
I'm okay with the camera being only slightly better than other phones, given the amazing speed at which it takes photos.
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Glad to see people comparing the One X/EVO 4G LTE with a phone that isn't even in their hand yet.
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I'm not purchasing either device,
But I've been lucky enough to play with them side by side already.
And I'm a huge HTC fan
It pains me to admit, HTC kinda lost there ass this time.
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The one x camera is what they said it would be. Awesome for a smartphone! Well atleast my evo lte cam is,which I'm pretty sure it's the same. Mind you I'm 26 year's old and have a busy nightlife,this camera captures it ALL!
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I'm not purchasing either device,
But I've been lucky enough to play with them side by side already.
And I'm a huge HTC fan
It pains me to admit, HTC kinda lost there ass this time.
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But, you do realize that the One Series and the EVO 4G LTE were both completed by design and announced before official rumors of the S3 was complete. So, of course Samsung would 1up the competition. It's just like if a new phone is announced later in the year, it's obviously gonna have better specs than one that was designed before.
And HTC definitely didn't lose their ass with this new phone (Especially the EVO 4G LTE). The One series is a step in the right direction for the company. No more quantity over quality. They're taking things down the right road this time.
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But, you do realize that the One Series and the EVO 4G LTE were both completed by design and announced before official rumors of the S3 was complete. So, of course Samsung would 1up the competition. It's just like if a new phone is announced later in the year, it's obviously gonna have better specs than one that was designed before.
And HTC definitely didn't lose their ass with this new phone (Especially the EVO 4G LTE). The One series is a step in the right direction for the company. No more quantity over quality. They're taking things down the right road this time.
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What I meant by lost their ass is by pitching a huge marketing campaign based on the power of their new cameras and than they get beat out.
I stumbled on this post searching for something. What a dumb post. Just delete his whole thread. I myself am.dumber for reading it. Camera quality is subjective when quality is this good. No one is using a phone to take aerial photos of property to show off. HTC has a hit. S3 is good but another same looking samsung phone. What innovation there. I am a big Samsung fan but S3 is a disappointment on looks and design for its exterior.
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I stumbled on this post searching for something. What a dumb post. Just delete his whole thread. I myself am.dumber for reading it. Camera quality is subjective when quality is this good. No one is using a phone to take aerial photos of property to show off. HTC has a hit. S3 is good but another same looking samsung phone. What innovation there. I am a big Samsung fan but S3 is a disappointment on looks and design for its exterior.
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Sorry you didn't like the article, i thought it was interesting to see a phone have a camera that good and somewhat surprised to see the htc phone rated that low. The phone was a hit at the last show because of the camera, they rated it a top 5 show item. I would think these people are more knowledgeable in the phone technology area, they certainly are smarter than mehttp://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/nokia-808-pureview-united-states/ I did also see that engadget has their review up for the S3 and they say the S3 camera, except for a faster shutter, is not much better than the S2. They also say the camera is about the same as the htc camera. So while that makes the cameras both pretty good I guess they are not a huge leap forward.http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-shootout-atandt-vs-sprint/
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What I meant by lost their ass is by pitching a huge marketing campaign based on the power of their new cameras and than they get beat out.
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Have a look at the quality in this picture I took, and explain how this can get beat out.
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Nice picture, no doubt, but if htc took the time to install a 3d camera on last years flagship phone, maybe a year from now they could install something similar to the nokia's camera and have something that is actually a "huge" improvement. We are now shown the technology is there and is being used and mass produced.
Just got a RAZR MAXX and I love the handset, screen, build quality, size, weight and battery life, but the camera absolutely sucks. It is beyond dreadful for a phone of this spec/price.
I am thinking it isn't just me because I saw a few threads complaining about this, but also if you compare the sample shots at GSMarena with say the SII and Galaxy Nexus (can't post links) then you can see this camera absolutely sucks, even compared to the 5MP Galaxy Nexus. My own experience is that it is barely acceptable in good daylight (even then the colours and contrast are dreadful) but in artificial light or poor light it is completely hopeless. Also it takes way too long to focus.
Is there anything I can do to improve it or should I just send it back and swap it for something else?
Keep the camera shutter button pressed until you are ready to take a pic. The camera will focus and when you are ready to take the pic just release it.
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Just got a RAZR MAXX and I love the handset, screen, build quality, size, weight and battery life, but the camera absolutely sucks. It is beyond dreadful for a phone of this spec/price.
I am thinking it isn't just me because I saw a few threads complaining about this, but also if you compare the sample shots at GSMarena with say the SII and Galaxy Nexus (can't post links) then you can see this camera absolutely sucks, even compared to the 5MP Galaxy Nexus. My own experience is that it is barely acceptable in good daylight (even then the colours and contrast are dreadful) but in artificial light or poor light it is completely hopeless. Also it takes way too long to focus.
Is there anything I can do to improve it or should I just send it back and swap it for something else?
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Keep the camera shutter button pressed until you are ready to take a pic. The camera will focus and when you are ready to take the pic just release it.
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Yes but the picture it takes is still absolutely terrible - noisy, bad detail, terrible colour reproduction, bad contrast. Seriously, go to GSM Arena and compare the test photos, or grab someone's Samsung/HTC/iPhone and do a few shots yourself - there is just no comparison. I've had 2MP Nokia dumb phones that take better snaps.
dude, activate 8mp, u probably have it on 6
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dude, activate 8mp, u probably have it on 6
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I'm not an idiot. I have tried every setting combination and the thing just sucks big time. Have you ever seen the pics from a SII/S|II/4S/any Sony phone? Or done the comparison at GSM Arena? This just doesn't compare - it is embarrassingly bad. As bad as my old Acer Liquid MT and that is a £120 phone.
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I'm not an idiot. I have tried every setting combination and the thing just sucks big time. Have you ever seen the pics from a SII/S|II/4S/any Sony phone? Or done the comparison at GSM Arena? This just doesn't compare - it is embarrassingly bad. As bad as my old Acer Liquid MT and that is a £120 phone.
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K
what do u want us to do? sell the phone and buy an SII/S|II/4S/any Sony phone?
IT'S A phone not an system camera
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what do u want us to do? sell the phone and buy an SII/S|II/4S/any Sony phone?
IT'S A phone not an system camera
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I know, sorry, I'm just gutted because I love everything else about the handset (it is an amazing design) and prefer it above all other current handsets, but the camera is just such a massive let down. I'm going to take it back tomorrow and see if I can exchange it... probably go for a Xperia S which was my original choice but I was put off by the crappy plastic design, lack of SD slot, and stupid flap over the USB port.
I should have stuck to my original choice but the MAXX turned my head!!
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what do u want us to do? sell the phone and buy an SII/S|II/4S/any Sony phone?
IT'S A phone not an system camera
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Instead if attacking the guy, read his post. He asked if there were any known fixes or should he exchange it. That is the problem I'm seeing in the RAZR forums, to many people just flaming each other instead of helping.
As to your question, there is something with the compression that moto used, and a post on how to fix it. Not sure were, but search the forum and you should find it. Not sure if it will help you, but it did seem to help my photo quality. You could also try camera ics from the market or any other third party to see if it helps.
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Instead if attacking the guy, read his post. He asked if there were any known fixes or should he exchange it. That is the problem I'm seeing in the RAZR forums, to many people just flaming each other instead of helping.
As to your question, there is something with the compression that moto used, and a ***** on how to fix it. Not sure were, but search the forum and you should find it. Not sure if it will help you, but it did seem to help my photo quality. You could also try camera ics from the market or any other third party to see if it helps.
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Thanks dude. I have tried other apps, and I don't much like the look of the patch and suspect it wouldn't help as I don't believe it is a JPEG compression issue... more a sensor/lense/hardware issue so there is a limit to how much any software processing can help. Absolutely gutted as I love the handset but it's going to have to go back - my main reason to update from the Acer was for a better camera and this just doesn't cut it.
From looking around seems the best cameras are on SII/SIII and Xperia S. The Xperia has many other drawbacks though which means I might end up with a SIII which is annoying because I hate having the same phone as everyone else
I honestly think Motorola were SO CLOSE with the handset. Maybe the HD will have a better camera.
No problem just figured I'd offer some suggestions. I figured you had tried them already, but you never know. So of I was you I would choose the s3, at least it's comparable to the Maxx.
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I figured out that the pictures quality is more better with another rom. Just with Black Widow AOKP Rom the pictures are much better than the other pictures taken with ICS stock rom.
do u mean is bad when u view it on the phone? cause when i transfer them to a pc or a tv there just average, i dont say they are good but there are just average 8mp pic. the difference with the nexus 5mp is when u zoom
That's interesting about the rom influencing image quality.
I was, and still am a bit impressed by the camera quality on the dinc, and I bought my Dare in part based on the lens/mp, but that was before I was more educated in photography. I'm by no means impressed by the Razr's camera, but knowing it's a cell phone, I see the camera as a convenience. I generally carry my canon s95 just in case, and will have one of my nikon's on hand if I know I'll be shooting. The razr's IQ may be sub par compared to other phones, but if my photos are a priority, I'm not looking to my phone as my camera.
Agreed. The camera is my biggest complaint with my maxx. I have a few third party camera apps but the quality is still lacking.
I'm gonna search for that patch mentioned earlier in the thread.
Stock ICS /w Root and some kernel tweaks.
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I don't really think that the kernel modules are responsible for the picture quality..
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do u mean is bad when u view it on the phone? cause when i transfer them to a pc or a tv there just average, i dont say they are good but there are just average 8mp pic. the difference with the nexus 5mp is when u zoom
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I took a ton of photos yesterday in different conditions and with different lighting. Uploaded them to my PC and the results weren't good. It is very strong at close-up shots in good light which give really excellent detail and colours, but any long, mid-range, motion, or low light shots are extremely poor in comparison to the latest offerings from Sony/Samsung/HTC.
In the end I swapped it for a Galaxy S3, which I reluctantly admit is an awesome bit of kit.
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I don't really think that the kernel modules are responsible for the picture quality..
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Who talked about kernel modules? I was talking about mortifying the media profiles file to change the compression.
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I had the Samsung Charge before the Razr Maxx, and I loved the Charge's camera. The Razr's camera isn't that bad, I don't know what you're talking about. Here's a picture I just took of my dog:
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I'm not an idiot. I have tried every setting combination and the thing just sucks big time. Have you ever seen the pics from a SII/S|II/4S/any Sony phone? Or done the comparison at GSM Arena? This just doesn't compare - it is embarrassingly bad. As bad as my old Acer Liquid MT and that is a £120 phone.
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Oh, my GOD, you're RIGHT! This is AWFUL!!!
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I took a ton of photos yesterday in different conditions and with different lighting. Uploaded them to my PC and the results weren't good. It is very strong at close-up shots in good light which give really excellent detail and colours, but any long, mid-range, motion, or low light shots are extremely poor in comparison to the latest offerings from Sony/Samsung/HTC.
In the end I swapped it for a Galaxy S3, which I reluctantly admit is an awesome bit of kit.
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Is there a chance we can see a sample of what the SIII can do?
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