Is it now worth to exchange my mini with a HTC HD2 (Leo)
I know its a legendary device and all the achievements developers have made
But I am just confused because of the development of the 3.0 Kernel for our devices.
And I XDA-ed and found out that there is no 3.0 being developed for the HD2.
So,Generally asking ..
Is it worth the money now ? And how is the HD2 performing in comparison with the Mini ?
Anyone ? (Bump)
Hi i read something about htc hd2 and this phone have older gpu(adreno 200) and processor QSD8250B S1(1ghz).Xperia mini have gpu andreno 205 and cpu QSD8255 S2(1ghz) wchich is better and faster than the old QSD8250.So now you can see that XM is better than htc hd2(in my opinion).That will help.
Thanx bro you helped a lil bit , but is the 3.0 kernel that much important ?
Will it bring the much more battery life and Speed ?
And I guess theres not much of a difference between adreno 200 and 205 ! Correct me if I am wrong .
No,you are wrong.The old adreno 200 is much worse than adreno 205.Adreno 205 is better and faster than adreno 200.The 3.0.x kernel can give us better performance,oc,stabilitity and a lot of others.So wait you will not be disappointed.
Just checked the qualcomm website and it seems you are correct
Twice the performance as the 200 !
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Hello, I saw a some information on a Norwegian site about the new HTC Dream, with a new processor, the MSM7201A, same as the touch pro.
If so, when somebody dumps a the andriod for the Dream, isn't that fearly "easy" to port, since they have the same processor?
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Proper processing
Like most newer advanced smart phones, Dream has been a processor with high-Clock. 528 MHz processor that provides the type of chipset Qualcomm MSM7201A. This is the same chipset that's in the HTC Touch Pro and Touch HD. ADP1 has 192 MB of memory available to the user.
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Can somebody tell me if I'm stupid or confire the facts?
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Even though it has the same processor, the hardware is still different, so while it's fairly easy, you still need to have that in mind when trying to port/make drivers work.
Ginormous thread regarding this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002
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Is there a way to overclock the Adreno 220 GPU that I consider to be laying dormant as of now inside the HTC EVO 3D and Sensation? I read some of post the the Desire HD section that mentioned they were jealous that the sensation already got a GPU overclock but they didn't provide a link and my searches have come up with nothing. If I could, I would post a link, but I didn't find anything. If anyone could provide a hit of clarity or insight into this topic, please do.
there is already a thread requesting that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285205
here is the sensation kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256668
Dear god I wouldn't do that. The adreno 220 is a very good gpu. I think it's the fastest one commercially available.
Plus I've had a bad history with gpu overclocking. I tried overclocking my ATI 4820 and it just ended up not working at all
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FYI, just about every single ROM available right now already has overclocked GPU, check the changelogs/feature lists.
well thank you for redirecting me, and i was hoping somebody would have made some sort of app as was done for the Samsung GSII, but thank you nonetheless
il Duce said:
FYI, just about every single ROM available right now already has overclocked GPU, check the changelogs/feature lists.
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From every ROM I've ever seen they never say the GPU has been overclocked. That requires Kernel modified.
Everything I've seen states "GPU Tweaks" which I believe only means they've tweaked the amount of memory allocated or the MPAA settings. Which is just a simple prop edit.
il Duce said:
FYI, just about every single ROM available right now already has overclocked GPU, check the changelogs/feature lists.
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roms cant overclock the GPU - it is overclocked in the kernel - most roms use stock kernel.
im working on a kernel now to OC the GPU to qualcomm spec. (so its not really being overclocked - but it is abt 40mhz faster than HTC spec)
chad.goodman said:
roms cant overclock the GPU - it is overclocked in the kernel - most roms use stock kernel.
im working on a kernel now to OC the GPU to qualcomm spec. (so its not really being overclocked - but it is abt 40mhz faster than HTC spec)
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hao pley?
lol serious question.
>.<
mahbad
sometimes I post drivel
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how is this thread going ?
I would really much like to see the possibility to overclock the adreno 220 because I think we can gain a lot of preformance in games etc..
hope someone looks in to it
Actually that isn't over clocking at all. Thats the normal speed. Htc under clocked it on us.
deadlocked007 said:
Umm its been here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318005
It overclocks the gpu to either 300 mhz or 320
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is this gonna work on Europe version?
aimbdd said:
Actually that isn't over clocking at all. Thats the normal speed. Htc under clocked it on us.
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qualcomm spec was 320MHz max (for HW001 and HW002)
i have 2 kernels - 1 @ 300 and 1 @ 320
How the andrino 220 stack up now,compare to the iphone 4S one and the mali 400,any answers will be greatly appreciated.
I am looking to buy a new phone,i don't like iphones,my current one is a Vibrant,so i am thinking about the Galaxys 2 from T mobile.
But since it use a 1.5 qualcoom cpu and andreno 220 GPU i don't know,since i don't know that GPU well,i don't know if it is weak or not,i love the Vibrant GPU it was quite ahead of anything until the Tegra 2 arrived.
Let's summarize for a second here:
The Qualcomm CPU is built for 1.5GHz, but underclocked to 1.2 GHz to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is underclocked to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is anywhere from ~5-50% faster than the Tegra 2 dependent on the benchmark/utility/application
The Adreno 220 (even underclocked) will perform so well that any mobile game out today will run without any perceived negative performance that is humanly detectible.
The Adreno 220 performs so well that the above will still be true for any mobile game that comes out between now and the time you get your next device
With the above facts true, there is effectively zero reason to currently want or need to overclock the GPU. What reason did you have to want to? Just to say you did? The way I see it the perceived benefits can't possibly outweigh the risks. I'm not sure (without doing the research) but I believe the Adreno 220 is still the best performing GPU on the market.
Sad Panda said:
Let's summarize for a second here:
The Qualcomm CPU is built for 1.5GHz, but underclocked to 1.2 GHz to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is underclocked to save on battery and heat.
The Adreno 220 is anywhere from ~5-50% faster than the Tegra 2 dependent on the benchmark/utility/application
The Adreno 220 (even underclocked) will perform so well that any mobile game out today will run without any perceived negative performance that is humanly detectible.
The Adreno 220 performs so well that the above will still be true for any mobile game that comes out between now and the time you get your next device
With the above facts true, there is effectively zero reason to currently want or need to overclock the GPU. What reason did you have to want to? Just to say you did? The way I see it the perceived benefits can't possibly outweigh the risks. I'm not sure (without doing the research) but I believe the Adreno 220 is still the best performing GPU on the market.
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I have see some performance test and at least vs the Mali 400 which the other galaxy have is actually the slowest,i actually have read some reviews that say the T mobile one is the weakest performance wise thanks to the Adreno 220,but saw some text in which the Adreno was faster than the Tegra 2.
Since i am looking to buy a T mobile galaxy S i am trying to get the most research to see if i get it or not.
My phone's lost. I dropped it somewhere last night or maybe someone picked my pocket. It's out of service now, wifi/data off, and it was pattern locked. I think the only way for anyone to use it is to reformat the thing. No "Plan B" and I regret uninstalling one of the security apps which would have wiped it clean with a text message.
I've been watching and learning from this corner of xda-dev ever since I rooted my phone. From Unofficial CM7's to Unofficial CM9's. Without this forum, I would have been stuck with a bricked phone a long time ago. There was a lot of help and I thank those that gave tips on what to do to fix issues.
Thank you to all devs for making our lowly O1 the best that it can be, especially the ones who brought in ICS goodness. I've always procrastinated buying a new phone. Seems like every time I come to a decision, someone makes a major breakthrough with the OS. Was hoping to try adfad666's JellyBean today but well... life's life. I guess this is a sign? LOL
I'll settle down with another part of the forum once I've made up my mind on which phone to get. On a side note, any suggestions? Something a step up from the O1?
HTC one x if you can support it
Or HTC HD 2 galaxy s III
Or what I might get - HTC amaze/one s in the US
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Yeah, I've had my eye on HTC phones. But the ones I want are way out of budget. LOL. I checked pricing for HD2, I think I can manage that. But isn't it a windows phone? I guess you can load Android on it, eh?
Hey, I haven't verbally thanked you, but thank you for your JellyBean goodies post!
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Yeah, I've had my eye on HTC phones. But the ones I want are way out of budget. LOL. I checked pricing for HD2, I think I can manage that. But isn't it a windows phone? I guess you can load Android on it, eh?
Hey, I haven't verbally thanked you, but thank you for your JellyBean goodies post!
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Your welcone
Yeah it has a full jelly bean port and almost every android version ported on it. If you are sense fan like me then it has almost every version of sense available for that 1.5-4.0
And it has windows phone 7 on it too
I had that then I broke it by dropping it into a pool
Lol my old Nokia 3310 survived that then I ran it over with my truck(accidentally)
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ps. be happy that you don't live in the US. they have all them bloatware, really really locked bootloaders, no sideloading apps blah blah blah
really annoying
they don't want you to root your device because then you don't get the same "customer experience" and they also say that you might be "tampering with the network" or "ruining other customers experiences" by you rooting a phone that you paid for. BS
And I thought 3310 were invincible. You sure you weren't testing it's invincibility? :silly: Anyway, thanks for the advise. I'm leaning towards the HD2 the more I'm reading about it. Old phone still packs a punch.
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I'm leaning towards the HD2 the more I'm reading about it. Old phone still packs a punch.
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Well, i would suggest buying a phone with newer chip.
HD2 has QSD8250(Q4 2008). I dont think qualcomm's gonna support it forever(like it did with us)
So, you should check this site.
I recommend
Galaxy Ace Plus 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A5 Adreno 200 (enhanced) Q4 2011
LG Optimus L7 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A5 Adreno 200 (enhanced) Q4 2011
Any phone applicable to your budget and needs in MSM8255(much better) 1-1.5 GHz Scorpion Adreno 205 Q2 2010
Wait for Ace 2
GobletSky31689 said:
Well, i would suggest buying a phone with newer chip.
HD2 has QSD8250(Q4 2008). I dont think qualcomm's gonna support it forever(like it did with us)
So, you should check this site.
I recommend
Galaxy Ace Plus 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A5 Adreno 200 (enhanced) Q4 2011
LG Optimus L7 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A5 Adreno 200 (enhanced) Q4 2011
Any phone applicable to your budget and needs in MSM8255(much better) 1-1.5 GHz Scorpion Adreno 205 Q2 2010
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I would suggest to wait for Galaxy Ace 2 : 800 Mhz Dual Core (2 Cortex A9 cores UNDERCLOCKED) with 768 MB ram and Mali400MP GPU on Novathor U8500 chip and also approx 240dpi 480x800 px 3.8 in screen!! .WOOOW!!! but it does not come ICS out of box...but naaah WHY ARE WE HERE
Processor is underclocked for battery (Same processor as in xperia U but 1 ghz) so Overclocking is a Breeeeze..
hello guys... im plaining to get a new phone.. with Snapdragon 800 but i was reading thers 2 diferent Chips... the Low bin (Qualcomm MSM8974)
and the High bin (Qualcomm MSM8974AB) ... and i want something realy good that dosent f**k in some months... im a gamer so i love performance and good visuals.. and i know 2.2GHz are good but i was reading the NOTE 3 has the same Chip(Qualcomm MSM8974 the low bin) and its at 2.3Ghz... u guys think this can be solve by a kernel in the future? to get more GHz and MHz on GPU.. ? give me an opinion please
darkhelio said:
hello guys... im plaining to get a new phone.. with Snapdragon 800 but i was reading thers 2 diferent Chips... the Low bin (Qualcomm MSM8974)
and the High bin (Qualcomm MSM8974AB) ... and i want something realy good that dosent f**k in some months... im a gamer so i love performance and good visuals.. and i know 2.2GHz are good but i was reading the NOTE 3 has the same Chip(Qualcomm MSM8974 the low bin) and its at 2.3Ghz... u guys think this can be solve by a kernel in the future? to get more GHz and MHz on GPU.. ? give me an opinion please
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There is no difference in GPU with either device running snapdragon 800 SOC's. The chips are exactly the same in actual fact, its just the higher capacity of tolerance for the higher clocked speed. So if a chip could take a higher clock speed during a stress test, then they were clocked at 2.3ghz...
But even though on the XZU we have 2.2Ghz (2.150Ghz to be exact) we are more than likely to be able to overclock it to 2.3ghz... similarly that the 2.3Ghz SOC could be overclocked to 2.4Ghz...
- Obviously this depends on developers we get for the XZU.. and if they want to put the many man hours into kernel development
As far as future proof is concerned... The 800 will be good for 18 months...
hamdogg said:
There is no difference in GPU with either device running snapdragon 800 SOC's. The chips are exactly the same in actual fact, its just the higher capacity of tolerance for the higher clocked speed. So if a chip could take a higher clock speed during a stress test, then they were clocked at 2.3ghz...
But even though on the XZU we have 2.2Ghz (2.150Ghz to be exact) we are more than likely to be able to overclock it to 2.3ghz... similarly that the 2.3Ghz SOC could be overclocked to 2.4Ghz...
- Obviously this depends on developers we get for the XZU.. and if they want to put the many man hours into kernel development
As far as future proof is concerned... The 800 will be good for 18 months...
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More than that it can only be that Sony actually set this limit for battery drain and thermal as well. While playing it become really hot. And if play and charge during the same time it become he'll. It remind me of the CPU that have on the HTC sensation and sensation XE, same CPU that was actually underclocked on the sensation.
As hamdogg just said, the CPU clock speed is not related to game, it's the GPU. All 800 SOC have the adreno 330
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thanks guys... because i want something good for the next months
Its dependant on so many variables and the Z Ultra has 50mg more allocated to video ram than other snapdragon devices. See comparison below
http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-benc...ow-it-stacks-against-the-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
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Its dependant on so many variables and the Z Ultra has 50mg more allocated to video ram than other snapdragon devices. See comparison below
http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-g2-benc...ow-it-stacks-against-the-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
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So that's why the Ultra is so heavy!
LordManhattan said:
So that's why the Ultra is so heavy!
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Ha Ha yeah... mg or MB whats the difference
hey guys I owned multiple phones in my life and to be honest the best one I had is the HTC One XL
single cored device of 1.5GHZ i over clocked it to 1.8GHZ and i still have it, it is a lot faster than all new phones, faster than sony phones heck its even faster than my Xperia Z5 Compact 8 cored!!
4 cores of 2ghz and another 4 of 1.5 and can not even compete to the speed of the One XL when it comes to launching apps speed and smooth UI experience!
so I am asking you if its any related to the roms we have and the drivers of sony could be causing the problems? I tried AOKP AOSP AICP Lineage roms they are fast enough but still why isnt it as fast as the 4-5 years old HTC SINGLED CORED!
if its roms related or UI can any one suggest really small roms or UI that can give my device a more powerful experience?
thanks for any one that can help
Funny. Any proof, maybe benchmarks screenshots or comparsion video? My Antutu score is 86 660 on stock 7.0 firmware for example.
rtimoff said:
Funny. Any proof, maybe benchmarks screenshots or comparsion video? My Antutu score is 86 660 on stock 7.0 firmware for example.
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thats exactly the funny thing! I have a really high score on multitasking - GPU, basically every thing else besides "Single core" score
and its really funny how the phone specs it says : it comes with 4 large cores of 2.0GHZ when in actuallity they run at 1.5ghz and when you actually run it on 2.0 youre actually "over-clocking" when in actuallity its just what they are supposed to do! how is that?
plus I got 59000 on AOKP how is that possible??