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So I've looked around the forums and done lots of searching and reading on overclocking and setCPU. I saw that you can fry your phone if it can't handle the overclock so I am way too scared of doing anything with it.
My question is, can someone show me step by step how to overclock my phone without frying it?
ROM: Trigger 3.3 final
Kernel: Bali 1.8.5
I read that you should do the automatic check thingy and I did that, the max is 1,000,000 and min is 100,000. Can someone also tell me what that means?
I'm just an uber noob and I'd really like to learn more.
shauna_cc said:
So I've looked around the forums and done lots of searching and reading on overclocking and setCPU. I saw that you can fry your phone if it can't handle the overclock so I am way too scared of doing anything with it.
My question is, can someone show me step by step how to overclock my phone without frying it?
ROM: Trigger 3.3 final
Kernel: Bali 1.8.5
I read that you should do the automatic check thingy and I did that, the max is 1,000,000 and min is 100,000. Can someone also tell me what that means?
I'm just an uber noob and I'd really like to learn more.
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1,000,000 = 1ghz
100,000=100mhz
Bali isn't an overclock kernel btw
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Okay so what does that mean exactly? The 1ghz and 100mhz?
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Okay so what does that mean exactly? The 1ghz and 100mhz?
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That your CPU will run a min of 100mhz and a max of 1Ghz.
Okay, and I'm assuming the changing mhz at the top in big letters is what my CPU is currently running at? If that's the correct term.
And if I set it to the max, will that fry my CPU?
I've been running bullet kernal for awhile now. Currently using project v with bullet oced at 1.4ghz max and 200min. To answer your question, if you do oc your hardware will take a beating IF you do not manage your phone temperature well.. I have an extra vibrant that runs on oced at 1.4 24/7 and it is still fine cause I don't use it a hell of a lot like I would do to my 1ghz max and 100min vibrant. Eventually all hardware will die at some point but if you plan to keep your vibrant forever I suggest you don't oc but if you plan to replace or get a new phone in 1 or 2 years or until your contract ends then oc all you want.
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Thank you, that helps a bunch. I'd like to keep my phone for a while so I'll leave overclocking to the experts.
Samsung Fascinate CDMA
Rooted MIUI 1.9.16
Did a brief search here looking to understand how to operate overclocking kernals, but find it/me relatively limited.
I have installed and ran Glitch v11 and v12, played around with HL to LL, and made adjustments to undervoltage utilizing Pimp My CPU and Voltage Control. I have also ran Tweak (though not really a kernal).
My question is this,
am I overclocking when I reduce voltage on Mhz's above 1,000?
If not, could someone point me to, or explain how to achieve overclocking on our phones, and
which kernel and governor do you prefer for overclocking?
As an ammended note, I've installed Tegrak Overclock, but am still looking for a user guide...
Thank you for your time.
If you're the running the glitch kernel...use voltage control, not tegrak overclock...over clocking is when you turn the CPU speed above its normal speed..anything over 1GHz.
under volting is when you turn down the voltage frequency to achieve better battery life...
Any one clock speed may perform more or less stable with different under volting unfortunately all of our phones will vary in performance so one setting that works for one may not be the best for another so experimentation is really the best option...this applies for schedulers and governors as well.
I personally overclock as high as I can until it freezes or crashes..then I go 1 setting down...I then try undervolting different steps observing the stability of my phone...when I find what I like,I run it for a few days, then if its still nice and stable I will apply on boot.
The different leakage values are affected by the hardware quality of the chips in our phones which also vary..I start with high and see how high I can overclock..note the setting, then try medium..see how high I can overclock and so on...just as a reference..high leakage creates the most heat and is the least efficient, but works for most phones, while low leakage is the most efficient and generates the least heat and will work with not as many phones
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efan450 said:
If you're the running the glitch kernel...use voltage control, not tegrak overclock...over clocking is when you turn the CPU speed above its normal speed..anything over 1GHz.
under volting is when you turn down the voltage frequency to achieve better battery life...
Any one clock speed may perform more or less stable with different under volting unfortunately all of our phones will vary in performance so one setting that works for one may not be the best for another so experimentation is really the best option...this applies for schedulers and governors as well.
I personally overclock as high as I can until it freezes or crashes..then I go 1 setting down...I then try undervolting different steps observing the stability of my phone...when I find what I like,I run it for a few days, then if its still nice and stable I will apply on boot.
The different leakage values are affected by the hardware quality of the chips in our phones which also vary..I start with high and see how high I can overclock..note the setting, then try medium..see how high I can overclock and so on...just as a reference..high leakage creates the most heat and is the least efficient, but works for most phones, while low leakage is the most efficient and generates the least heat and will work with not as many phones
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Efan450,
Thanks.
How do you over-clock using Glitch and Voltage Control? I see that Voltage Control goes up to 1,300Mhz, but it's at 0 above 1,000Mhz and can be dropped down to -200mV. Is overclocking just the process of decreasing that voltage on Mhz's above 1,000Mhz's
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Efan450,
Thanks.
How do you over-clock using Glitch and Voltage Control? I see that Voltage Control goes up to 1,300Mhz, but it's at 0 above 1,000Mhz and can be dropped down to -200mV. Is overclocking just the process of decreasing that voltage on Mhz's above 1,000Mhz's
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come on man.. Clock speed (mhz) and undervolting are 2 completely different things.. Forget the voltage.. No changing the voltage is NOT overclocking.. You overclock by changing your maximum clock above 1000mhz which is stock for this phone.. Try long pressing 1200mhz and selecting set as max.. Now your overclocked to 1200mhz..
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No decreasing the voltage is simply undervolting whether it's over 1000 or under. The idea behind undervolting is increasing battery life, but you can't necessarily go and set each level to the maximum undervolt (200) you half to see what works. Increasing the processor speed is overclocking, stock speed is 1000 so anything over that is over clocked. As far as how far as how far you can over clock depends mostly on 2 things, 1. the kernel your using, ( for example if it shows 1300 in the list that means thats all that specific kernel supports) 2. It varys greatly between phones. For example with glitch you can overclock to 1700 but very few phones can run that high for longer than a few minutes!
Hope that helps.
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Yes.. And the fact you say your running glitch and your max oc is only 1300 my guess is you broke your kernel with tegrak overclocks module.. Delete tegrak and stop downloading overclock apps. or any other root app unless you know fully the consequences first.. If after deleting tegrak, and rebooting, if your voltage control don't show a maximum clock of 1700 mhz, then you will need to reflash your glitch kernel
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Neh4pres,
Yeah, I kind of feel like a heel. For some reason, I had a brain fart when looking in the 'General' section of Voltage Control. I see now how to overclock.
Regarding ost #6:
When I flashed MIUI 1.9.16, I did not install any kernel; so it was kind of a half truth in that while running 1.9.9 I did have Glitch installd. Nevertheless, I still have Voltage Control installed.
mkropf,
I see that now, and thought as such earlier, but needed some clarification.
Having so many issues with Glitch and 1.9.9, I'm hesitant to install Glitch, but interested to see if it runs better on the newer MIUI...
Thank you two for answering my newbie questions.
FJRSport said:
Neh4pres,
Yeah, I kind of feel like a heel. For some reason, I had a brain fart when looking in the 'General' section of Voltage Control. I see now how to overclock.
Regarding ost #6:
When I flashed MIUI 1.9.16, I did not install any kernel; so it was kind of a half truth in that while running 1.9.9 I did have Glitch installd. Nevertheless, I still have Voltage Control installed.
mkropf,
I see that now, and thought as such earlier, but needed some clarification.
Having so many issues with Glitch and 1.9.9, I'm hesitant to install Glitch, but interested to see if it runs better on the newer MIUI...
Thank you two for answering my newbie questions.
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There are no issues with glitch.. It is what I run.. Very smooth.. Just have to give your phone time to adjust and build cache
Sent from the fascinate that holds the record benchmark on antutu
Landscape
Re-installed Glitch v12 ML last night and have it overclocked @ 1,200 with no under-voltage...yet. Want to see any adverse effects.
I started at 1,300 and it locked up then rebooted within 5 minutes.
A concern I have is that now my phone will not Auto Rotate to Landscape even though I have Auto-Rotate 'on' in Settings.
I've scoured Sixstrings Glitch thread to no avail. Though it's not needed anymore, I also flashed the cleaning script just to see if it would make a difference.
Is there a work around or fix for this?
Make sure you're on the latest 9/15 version of the kernel. Anything before that will kill all of your phone's sensors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252871
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Make sure you're on the latest 9/15 version of the kernel. Anything before that will kill all of your phone's sensors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252871
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That was it. I had re-installed the older Glitch v12 that was already on my PC. Deleted them and downloaded the newer Glitch kernels to experiment with.
Thanks!
FJRSport said:
Re-installed Glitch v12 ML last night and have it overclocked @ 1,200 with no under-voltage...yet. Want to see any adverse effects.
I started at 1,300 and it locked up then rebooted within 5 minutes.
A concern I have is that now my phone will not Auto Rotate to Landscape even though I have Auto-Rotate 'on' in Settings.
I've scoured Sixstrings Glitch thread to no avail. Though it's not needed anymore, I also flashed the cleaning script just to see if it would make a difference.
Is there a work around or fix for this?
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under volting helps stability.. I use -50 for everything above 1ghz.. Your phone may vary
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OC & UV settings
neh4pres said:
under volting helps stability.. I use -50 for everything above 1ghz.. Your phone may vary
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Yeah, locking and rebooting was while using the older version of Glitch v12. With the 9/15 dated Glitch I'm at 1300 now with the following settings:
Deadline / ondemand
200 - 1300
1300 -25
1200 -25
1000 -50
800 -50
400 -75
200 -75
1.2GHz is the best I say if you want good battery with a higher frequency. 1.4GHz is the best for anyone who uses their phone alot. Samsung did add 1.2GHz overclock in their source.
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Back to running MIUI without Glitch.
Things that make you go, Hmmm?
For some reason, every time I accessed the keyboard for Google+, it hung, then froze, and 3 of the four times rebooted. The fourth time I needed to remove the battery to reboot. So I re-flashed MIUI 1.9.16 (effectively removing Glitch) and have 0 problems.
Bummer, I like Glitch too.
I'm in the same boat, however they redone the latest glitch merge and posted it last night so I'm thinking we'll be back in good times
Sent from the most custom, custom rom Miui 1.9.16 and currently the best kernel Jt
mkropf said:
I'm in the same boat, however they redone the latest glitch merge and posted it last night so I'm thinking we'll be back in good times
Sent from the most custom, custom rom Miui 1.9.16 and currently the best kernel Jt
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are you using JT's 9/12 kernel?
if so...did you overclock it?
i'm on jt's 9/12 with miui 1.9.16 and wondering if I can / should overclock and undervolt it. I'm just trying to maximize battery life at this point.
Try the new glitch posted last night, it is fantastic.
Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500
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Try the new glitch posted last night, it is fantastic.
Sent from my MIUI SCH-i500
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what voltages are you running?
also for anyone..
is there any way to directly compare two kernels? like a test or something?
I can't decide between JT's 9/12 and the new glitch..
worshipNtribute said:
what voltages are you running?
also for anyone..
is there any way to directly compare two kernels? like a test or something?
I can't decide between JT's 9/12 and the new glitch..
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You wouldn't want to use my voltages, I put everything way lower than anybody else does or recommends and am just lucky that it is stable for me but it causes the sleep of death for anyone else.
For comparison, just run JT's kernel for a bit and then flash glitch and try it... once you play with OC/UV and voodoo color you won't be able to go back. (you'll be able to but you'd have to be insane.)
Hey guys,
I have just installed OmegaRom by Team Cooper and what a Rom it is!!! Amazing is an understatement.
Okay so with there new Rom v2, it has an OC kernal built in and it does work...BUT I need to know how to OC the thing safely and squeezing as much performance as possible!
I have it at 825 and min 806 mhz, scaler is performance.
What settings would you pro's recommened?
Thanks!
Edit 1- I am using SetCPU to OC.
"overclock" and "safe" cannot be use in the same sentence, it just wrong.
theres no safe overclocking. moreover each and every device is unique even for the same model.
what is working with others doesnt guarantee it'll works with yours.
an0nym0us_ said:
"overclock" and "safe" cannot be use in the same sentence, it just wrong.
theres no safe overclocking. moreover each and every device is unique even for the same model.
what is working with others doesnt guarantee it'll works with yours.
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What I meant was a stable OC that may work with my phone... I OC computers too so I know the risk's involved. So what I was asking was what OC's worked with peoples phones so I could get a rough idea on how to govern my cpu and OC it without totally messing it up.
davalav said:
What I meant was a stable OC that may work with my phone... I OC computers too so I know the risk's involved. So what I was asking was what OC's worked with peoples phones so I could get a rough idea on how to govern my cpu and OC it without totally messing it up.
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i hope u are aware of the ill effects of OCing.....battery takes a real beating....well i have done it upto 886 mhz....many others have done it upto 1ghz mark...but i personally do not recommend...
CPU Tuner
I try CPU Tuner, is similar ti setCPU but is free whit THE END 3.0 custom ROM and use the 864-254 mhz for screen on and 480-122 for screen off whitout problems, previously I use 904 mhz, but sometime it freeze...
Bye Pistaaa
sreesh87 said:
i hope u are aware of the ill effects of OCing.....battery takes a real beating....well i have done it upto 886 mhz....many others have done it upto 1ghz mark...but i personally do not recommend...
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I have OCed it to 902 mhz..
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Thanks for the comments guys... Gives me a rough estimate on its limits.
So far I have been running 844mhz performance for a while, since I created this thread and the battery has remained at 82%!
I have benched using AnTuTu twice and have excellent read and write speeds, compared to other benchies I have seen, OmegaRom is the best Rom I have ever used!
Cheers,
i tried cpufrills and its the best for me
I don't Think U mustuse over clocking,even my setting was min245 max 902,the effect just draining more battery,and if using to much can damaging ur prosessor
I know you might think what I'm going to write is unnecessary and going to contradict with your believes here. but I'm going say it anyway.
If you are going to use your device for a long time then I would suggest not to overclock too much. You'll know when something will go wrong with your over-clocking. Your SGA would start rebooting randomly. Heating up would be excessively common once you start overclocking, using your SGA while it's charging. Over clocking will definitely reduce your processor life span. People who do can over clock their device to get the max out of their device and know they're going to change the device in sometime later anyway.
Rushyang said:
I know you might think what I'm going to write is unnecessary and going to contradict with your believes here. but I'm going say it anyway.
If you are going to use your device for a long time then I would suggest not to overclock too much. You'll know when something will go wrong with your over-clocking. Your SGA would start rebooting randomly. Heating up would be excessively common once you start overclocking, using your SGA while it's charging. Over clocking will definitely reduce your processor life span. People who do can over clock their device to get the max out of their device and know they're going to change the device in sometime later anyway.
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Don't worry! Like I said, I have experience O/C'ing processors etc and I know how bad the effects can be! I am not going for a massive overclock at all. Just a tiny bump in the speed. At the moment, I am running 825mhz and already the speed has improved dramatically. I may go a little further but 902mhz is a bit mental for my liking.
Pistaaa said:
I try CPU Tuner, is similar ti setCPU but is free whit THE END 3.0 custom ROM and use the 864-254 mhz for screen on and 480-122 for screen off whitout problems, previously I use 904 mhz, but sometime it freeze...
Bye Pistaaa
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SetCPU is free for XDA members and it's the best one ever...period
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
Pistaaa said:
I try CPU Tuner, is similar ti setCPU but is free whit THE END 3.0 custom ROM and use the 864-254 mhz for screen on and 480-122 for screen off whitout problems, previously I use 904 mhz, but sometime it freeze...
Bye Pistaaa
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setCPU is free to if you download it from the forum
Hello all
I have a bit of a small problem. I like to run my phone using the Performance Governor but after a while it goes to 1Ghz on all 4 cores despite me running it at 1.8Ghz. Setting it back seems to correct the issue but in time it goes down again.
I believe it is getting a bit warm and thus it hits a limit and the system auto slows to 1Ghz.
Can anyone confirm this behaviour? It never happened to me before but I have had a few kernel updates and updates to the Omega ROM that could be the cause but I am not sure. Is there a setting where I can tell my phone what temps to throttle at?
Also, I assume all this is down to the Kernel and not the ROMs?
Would like some imput regards where to start my search to return my phone to its previous state as a pocket heater.
Many Thanks
Syl
. I like to run my phone using the Performance Governor
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Don't use it. Pegasusq is the only one really working for multi-core CPU's with hotplugging and so on.
but after a while it goes to 1Ghz on all 4 cores despite me running it at 1.8Ghz.
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1.8Ghz is not healthy for the CPU in the long run and will cause overheating which is exactly what you are currently seeing.
Especially since you keep the phone on 100% CPU power all the time (performance governor) which should drain battery like hell as a side effect.
Also, I assume all this is down to the Kernel and not the ROMs?
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This is down to your settings. Neither rom nor kernel.
- Don't overclock (much)
-Use a good kernel such as Siyah
-Undervolt if the phone remains stable
-Use pegasusq Governor
-Enjoy
d4fseeker said:
Don't use it. Pegasusq is the only one really working for multi-core CPU's with hotplugging and so on.
1.8Ghz is not healthy for the CPU in the long run and will cause overheating which is exactly what you are currently seeing.
Especially since you keep the phone on 100% CPU power all the time (performance governor) which should drain battery like hell as a side effect.
This is down to your settings. Neither rom nor kernel.
- Don't overclock (much)
-Use a good kernel such as Siyah
-Undervolt if the phone remains stable
-Use pegasusq Governor
-Enjoy
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Hi buddy and thanks for your response.
I am not sure about what you said regarding it working correctly, it gets the best results for any benchmark compared to others so I would be interested in more detail about the specifics of how its not working correctly as I have never been told that. It would be appreciated.
I dont mind the battery drain although I do heed your warning about about longevity of the CPU.
I have been using Siyah Kernel for some time now and I find undervolting a little unstable, for now I am forced to use pegasusq.
Can you or anyone else answer the original question as I still wish to pursue this to a resolve other than not using it.
Many thanks for your time and efforts non the less!
Syl
SyLvEsTeR20007 said:
Hi buddy and thanks for your response.
I am not sure about what you said regarding it working correctly, it gets the best results for any benchmark compared to others so I would be interested in more detail about the specifics of how its not working correctly as I have never been told that. It would be appreciated.
I dont mind the battery drain although I do heed your warning about about longevity of the CPU.
I have been using Siyah Kernel for some time now and I find undervolting a little unstable, for now I am forced to use pegasusq.
Can you or anyone else answer the original question as I still wish to pursue this to a resolve other than not using it.
Many thanks for your time and efforts non the less!
Syl
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it´s samsung´s based roms related: when the battery temp hits 41C the cpu will throttle. Nothing related with de cpu temp (can be at 80C before throttles).
try CM10.1 and you´ll see what im talking about.
We need a solution for this throttling with samsung based roms
Hi there to all!!! I've been flashing various Android Roms for a few yrs now & really enjoy trying out new custom roms etc... Now i have a weird problem, Most customs Roms I have tried for my S3 i9300 are great & most 4.3 Roms come with a Custom Kernel such as Beoffla, GoogyMax, devil kernel & so on.... Now the problem is when leaving the CPU at defualt governer & settings everything is fine eg: min 200 & max 1400 but games lag now & again, When setting the CPU min & Max settings to 1400MHz, the results are much better but not for long, The CPU always drops to 800MHz when gaming as i notice the lagg, I've noticed this same thing with just about every kernel & rom ive tried wether its set to 1400 or even overclocked to 1500 or 1600max, I've also tried every trick to make them settings stick , like trickster mod etc, none seem to work for long, its like another system service is interfering with the settings or so.....im pulling my hair out to figure out what this is, I just want the CPU min & max to stay firmly at 1400Mhz or 1500 etc....without changing at all!!!
Any help or suggestions would be really appreciated.... FlashJunkie83
Sent from my NeatRom'ed Galaxy S3
CPU/GPU can under-perform if they get too hot from playing resource-intensive games or apps. Maybe this is the issue.
~ RazorMC
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CPU/GPU can under-perform if they get too hot from playing resource-intensive games or apps. Maybe this is the issue.
hey yea would make sense but when running rooted stock 4.1.2 with stock kernel, this doesnt happen at all, i can set performance governer in set cpu & it stays at 1400 Mhz throughout, also i would of thought a Cpu thats ment to run at 1400 would be fine to do so all the time as its ment to be able to... even with a little heat behind it... its still only doing what its ment to lol, i remember in the days of my s2, i could push the cpu to 1200mhz & it would happily stay there even tho it got hot lol, im really sure its a system thing that upsets the cpu frequency, other than that there must be a way to stop the cpu/gpu from under-performing with a little heat..... thanks for reply tho dude....
Sent from my NeatRom'ed S3 i-9300
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@FlashJunkie83
- High temp will always cause freq throttling since this is how devices are designed. This over-rides whatever the max freq the cpu was designed to run on.
- try undervolting from the boefla config app (if you use the boefla kernel). I use -25mV with almost no difference to performance. Some users have gone on to -50mV but that gave me random freezes and massive lags sometimes.
- Test different governors. I mostly use the default pegasusq and it works well enough. Constantly high freq can affect the CPU in the long-term. So I use max freq of 800mhz and increase it to 1400mhz only when I play games.
- I'm not a fan of SetCPU. It's a great app but i find specific apps (like boeffla config) for kernels to be more precise.
- You can also try a different battery and borrow one from a friend to test it out. I had slight heating issues long ago and changing the battery reduced the heat for me somehow. It was not much, but it was enough for me to notice.
~ RazorMC
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@FlashJunkie83
- High temp will always cause freq throttling since this is how devices are designed. This over-rides whatever the max freq the cpu was designed to run on.
- try undervolting from the boefla config app (if you use the boefla kernel). I use -25mV with almost no difference to performance. Some users have gone on to -50mV but that gave me random freezes and massive lags sometimes.
- Test different governors. I mostly use the default pegasusq and it works well enough. Constantly high freq can affect the CPU in the long-term. So I use max freq of 800mhz and increase it to 1400mhz only when I play games.
- I'm not a fan of SetCPU. It's a great app but i find specific apps (like boeffla config) for kernels to be more precise.
- You can also try a different battery and borrow one from a friend to test it out. I had slight heating issues long ago and changing the battery reduced the heat for me somehow. It was not much, but it was enough for me to notice.
~ RazorMC
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thanks mate will give it a go
sent from my NeatRom'ed S3 i9300
finally fiqured it out, it seems that cynogenmod has a diffrent approach to thermal throttling as ive flashed CM10.2.0 Android 4.3.1 along with Boeffla 2.1 for CM & the issue seems to have gone completely, have been running a performance test on games for best part of the day at 1600MHz with 4 enabled cores & just going back to normal settings for normal daily use, & not 1 issue with throttling, so now im very happy with the smoothness in games although its gets warm, but most high performance CPU's do anyways,So ive come to the conclusion that thermal throttling must be handled more by sammy roms it seems, but got the result i wanted in the end, thanks for all replies tho guys
Sent from my blazing S3 i9300 now running CM10.2.0