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I have 1.50 unlocked from htc's website
I cannot install busybox which is requierd for this program (greenk45) which changes some port settings so i can use the internet with cricketwireless.
BUT..... busybox says it requries root access to install. If my phone is in s-on that means i am not rooted and i will never beable to install this program right?
If i can't get ths program installed i will never have internet.
S on no not rooted....u need to root the phone to aquire busy box n super user.....should b able to find the steps to root by going to forums ur phone model and searching how to root
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need4spd said:
I have 1.50 unlocked from htc's website
I cannot install busybox which is requierd for this program (greenk45) which changes some port settings so i can use the internet with cricketwireless.
BUT..... busybox says it requries root access to install. If my phone is in s-on that means i am not rooted and i will never beable to install this program right?
If i can't get ths program installed i will never have internet.
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some reading material on how to do stuff w/ hboot 1.50
http://infectedrom.com/showthread.php/552-How-to-install-a-kernel-AND-rom-on-S-ON-hboot-1.50-phones.
I.just hope they crack the new hboot soon to.give us s off im tired of the htc method
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especially since it erases everything
xyojimbox said:
I.just hope they crack the new hboot soon to.give us s off im tired of the htc method
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Revolutionary has stopped. The last update they made to the tool was about 2 months ago. Look at their site, then go to the bottom of the wiki page and take a look.
No update in 2 months= whatever you want to think.
They won't be finding a patch for the evo3d 1.5 hboot because they aren't looking.
Twolazyg said:
Revolutionary has stopped. The last update they made to the tool was about 2 months ago. Look at their site, then go to the bottom of the wiki page and take a look.
No update in 2 months= whatever you want to think.
They won't be finding a patch for the evo3d 1.5 hboot because they aren't looking.
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Well that just blows goats
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I've talked with them... They are looking, just not making it a priority, and if anyone doubts or continues to harass them, they feel more like putting it off. It take time to find an exploit.
The HTC Unlocker works just fine too...
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I've talked with them... They are looking, just not making it a priority, and if anyone doubts or continues to harass them, they feel more like putting it off. It take time to find an exploit.
The HTC Unlocker works just fine too...
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I've talked to them as well, if anyone asks about any news on 1.5 hboot, they simply say no, then kick you out of irc. Why would they have any desire to put any effort into looking when htc released the unlock method? It's not going to happen, maybe next summer.
I knew I should have rooted before setting everything up
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I've talked to them as well, if anyone asks about any news on 1.5 hboot, they simply say no, then kick you out of irc. Why would they have any desire to put any effort into looking when htc released the unlock method? It's not going to happen, maybe next summer.
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Ah Poo. That ****ing blows ..
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To get S-Off, has anyone tried rolling back to the old RUU (Prerelease) and using HTC Dev? It probably won't work, but it might be worth a shot...
htc dev wont work,they arent going to give an unlock key,it doesnt matter what firmware we are running.
from what i can gather,zergRush works,we need to be able to disable emmc write protect so that a new hboot can be written. im assuming the usual exploits for this are not working,or it would be out by now.
it may be possible that an older ruu may be more "exploitable" i dont reeally know.
i hope some breakthrus come... i hate to think htc devices are going to become "unlockable" like moto i like the rezound but have got to hold out till it has at least a software s-off.
id also be happy with clip support,since i have one of them
edit: htc dev unlock is a joke anyway. i do appreciate the efforts on their part to satisfy the root community,but it is not an s-off. what you get,is an unlocked s-on hboot that lets you change recovery,boot,and system. no radio or hboot changes,and no backwards RUUs without rewriting the misc image.
its unfortunately far from the freedom from a true unsecured bootloader. it may well be good enuff for most folks,but im not happy with that.
It's a good thought tho. Yeah the htc method for the EVO users sucked. I Mena u could still flash roms and such bit they had to have a stock kernel as a default In order to flashed em thru recovery. But I wouldn't be to happy with that either. So I can't blame ya. But if that all we were offered then I would have to live with it.
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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i would wait. we waited for evo 3d root far longer.
it really is a great phone. read engadgets review. they really explain the screen resolution very well with graphs. its sold as a music phone but at this time it is the best screen res in the world. the nexus and razor are inferior in that area. watching hd video on it is pretty cool
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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htc has been locking their bootloaders,this is nothing new. in the past,its just been easy to find work arounds to either turn of the radio secure flag off,or to sneek an eng hboot(that pretends the radio is s-off ) onto the device,and its always happend quickly,in most cases before the device even came out.
to my knowledge there is not encription,like there is with moto bootloaders,ist just that we currently have no way to write a new hboot in place of the current one.
if there is not a real engineering hboot for the rezound,its not too difficult to patch a stock hboot to not do radio checks,and to provide fastboot commands,and even protect itself from being overwritten(all these are characteristics of the revolutionary hboot), its just a matter of an exploit to get it in place.
i know i sort of started that ball rolling with my comment, but i wouldnt give up just yet. hopefully someone whose smarter than us will figure it out. or the clip will support it. or both
im not saying i wont get it,but im still happy with my thunderbolt,i dont need a new phone yet,so i will wait untill we have s-off,or possibly until 4 core processors come out next year
disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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C'mon, the phone hasn't even been out a week. It takes time, but the devs almost always find a way in.
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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fernando sor said:
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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That was the rumor. I never got in to see for myself, but heard more than a few actual devs say it was.
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Well if it helps, the RUU didn't work. It aborted midway through and gave an HBOOT error. I might try again, but it's probably not worth losing my data for.
If it can be done xtc clip will do it and if they can do it alpha rev and unrevoked will pull it off as well let's just give them some time.... I'm not worried at all at the moment
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I still have some time before I can get my upgrade so maybe it will be unlocked before then. This phone is on my list of phones I like. Sorry for messing up the thread. Good luck guys
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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Wow that's a great thought. But the hboot would remain the same. Wiether u had 1.30 or 1.40 to begin with. They never released there exploit tho. I know it had to do with the kernel and htc patched it with the 2.08 update. Bastards LOL.
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So its just a way to put different stock software on a phone, lol what a fail.
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pretty much..HTC has gotten better and better plugging there holes. For the EVO 3D we had some of the best DEVs working on it. Def wasnt easy for them, but now if u dont have an older Hboot you cant use AlphaREvs method. WEll hopefully they'll figure ours out as wel
Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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I'm sure they are working on it they are quit to do it.... You can always contact them on twitter
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Do you know what their twitter name is. Probably unrevoked and alpharev?
OK, Im ready to root my new EVolTE, whats the best method to root giving me S-OFF? I might not flash any rooms for now, but will root just to get tether.
Any advice?
rooting
Right now the only way to get S-Off is to go to HTCdev and get it there, but that isn't "true" S-Off from what I understand, and rooting and S-Off are 2 diff things, to actually root get on youtube and search rooting evo 4g lte, there is a great vid there on how to do it, make sure you have a unzipping program first. it's a piece of cake
S-Off hasn't been officially hacked yet.
Hope this helps
You guys need to read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680928
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david279 said:
You guys need to read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680928
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Evol lte doesn't have s-off yet. You can gain root without flashing anything and htcdev is so can install a custom recovery, which gives you ability to flash a rom.
I've been wondering about this myself. I haven't even seen any word on whether anyone is working on getting s-off for this thing. I've been hoping for CM9 to come to the new EVO eventually. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need s-off to flash AOSP? If that's the case then they probably wouldn't even start work on it until someone finds a way to get s-off. I just miss CM7 from my OG EVO and unfortunately there was never a fully working version for the 3D. I really considered getting the Galaxy Nexus but I couldn't pass up the HW specs on this thing.
HTC dev unlock is enough for aosp kush has a cm9 wip that boots
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Also imy guess to get s off will be similar to the junopbear method or.whatever where we have to short out the emmc by grounding it but idk if that same exploit would s off the bootloader ...
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We don't need s-off as much now. We can do a lot with the htcdev unlock. It will be nice to have though.
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david279 said:
We don't need s-off as much now. We can do a lot with the htcdev unlock. It will be nice to have though.
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Yeah s off just makes things a little easier tho you ya know so I hope we get it before to long
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Yeah been wondering the same thing. I remember when the 3D came out we had a few bounties, two or three different teams and numerous individuals actively trying to get S-Off. Haven't heard from anyone trying to accomplish it for the EvoLTE.
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
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s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
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From what I remember from my OG EVO & 3D, I thought it was a pain in the butt & took a lot more steps to do as opposed to flashing those things with S-Off.
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ticklemepinks said:
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
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Or can we?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698337
One thing i don't understand is right on htcs website in the faq it talks about how the bootloader still has security enabled to protect the radios. If that's true how is it that we can flash radios? I thought htc specifically blocked that with their method.
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One thing i don't understand is right on htcs website in the faq it talks about how the bootloader still has security enabled to protect the radios. If that's true how is it that we can flash radios? I thought htc specifically blocked that with their method.
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More info here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694589
Looking at selling my Evo 3D to a buddy and I would like to get a newer one, ie no scratches. I wanted to ask what are the repercussions of going with a newer 3vo; in terms of rooting. Also are they still somewhat the same; nothing has been changed (maybe BOOT version?)
You're going to have to deal with HTC hboot from Heill. keep your old evo, especially because that one will probably get scratches on it too. Just put a case on to conceal anything impurities
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kiewee3 said:
You're going to have to deal with HTC hboot from Heill. keep your old evo, especially because that one will probably get scratches on it too. Just put a case on to conceal anything impurities
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Please explain about the new hboot. IIRC My hboot was the hardest to do, now you're telling me the new one is harder? I don't just want to get a new phone, I want to get my buddy out of his clamshell...yes he has a clamshell.
I haven't rooted on mine yet, only because I don't have the time to be on down-time while I root. Especially since I have never rooted before. So learning curve taken into account.
I don't think the new one is harder than 1.50 was from what I've read. You still HTCdev unlock and then wire trick.
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Hboot 1.57 I think is just like hboot 1.5, but there is no way to downgrade it/s-off
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coal686 said:
I don't think the new one is harder than 1.50 was from what I've read. You still HTCdev unlock and then wire trick.
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Refresh my memory on the wire trick.
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Hboot 1.57 I think is just like hboot 1.5, but there is no way to downgrade it/s-off
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Wait, you're telling me that I can't do the brick phone trick, to bring me back to <1.5, and root from there?
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Wait, you're telling me that I can't do the brick phone trick, to bring me back to <1.5, and root from there?
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Hboot 1.58 can be s-off by wire trick, someone has try and confirmed, try to read on jopunotbear thread.
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Ok I'm getting do and don'ts from this thread. I'm going to let it linger and see what others have to say. I would really like to get my buddy into the 21st century. So lets hope I get more do than don'ts.
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it has proper hardware. 1gb ram and dual core withc can be overclocked to over 1.8ghz.
you got an "more than ok" from me. take a look at the price (vs. sensation) - it has better hardware, lol (MSM8660)
just buy it . you won't regret IF YOU WILL USE COSTOM ROM
s-on?what's so bad about that? use 4ext with smartflash...
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That the thing, I've always wanted to root my phone, so I want to make certain that I can root a newer 3VO.
sorry for the missunderstanding. you may be able to s-off a newer hboot. im not sure though
so i assume the way everything has been going we will get it in 2 months
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-deliver-jelly-bean-and-sense-4-upgrade-one-s-x-and-xl-month
Idk about "we" as in evo lte, but yes, one x and one s will...sprints probably going to be late, but I'm sure we can depend on the developers to pull something when its released
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Even if we get it, I'm still not not updating. Not until I have S-OFF...
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Idk about "we" as in evo lte, but yes, one x and one s will...sprints probably going to be late, but I'm sure we can depend on the developers to pull something when its released
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Well from the history of this phone and one x we have been getting the updates about a month after...one can hope
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Very cool! Can't wait for JB! Sad how the OneX+ doesn't have 2gb Ram and 1080p screen....
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Well from the history of this phone and one x we have been getting the updates about a month after...one can hope
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Yeah, but only fixes to problems. Nothing like this yet. We'll see if they pull through. Like I said though, either way, I'll be waiting for S-OFF.
I hope the focus on fixing the LTE issue with these phones before worrying about JB.
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I hope the focus on fixing the LTE issue with these phones before worrying about JB.
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That was supposed to be addressed in the last update. What problems are you having?
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Yeah, but only fixes to problems. Nothing like this yet. We'll see if they pull through. Like I said though, either way, I'll be waiting for S-OFF.
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people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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Tell me about it. People have a fascination with S-off, thinking their phones will magically start doing something they haven't already been doing.
People listen and wake up, we can do the same thing as people with s-off do. We just have to go about it a different way.
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I heard that if you have soff your phone can make you pb&j sandwiches.
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That was supposed to be addressed in the last update. What problems are you having?
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The LTE threshold issue on the EVO LTE.
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I heard that if you have soff your phone can make you pb&j sandwiches.
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So that is why I wake up every morning with a sandwich next to my bed!
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Tell me about it. People have a fascination with S-off, thinking their phones will magically start doing something they haven't already been doing.
People listen and wake up, we can do the same thing people as people with s-off do. We just have to go about it a different way.
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people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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Look, it's not that I'm stuck in some mindset that S-OFF is the key to everything. I understand that I can go through the HTCdev method, but I choose not to. My preference is S-OFF.
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Look, it's not that I'm stuck in some mindset that S-OFF is the key to everything. I understand that I can go through the HTCdev method, but I choose not to. My preference is S-OFF.
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So you will just not root your phone till you get s-off? Bc when the phone first came out all there was, was HTC dev unlock. Sitting with stock Rom is no fun...
And if you are not rooted or rooted it maybe a few version of android before soff comes out (if it does) which will keep you on old software and really not take advantage of new goodies
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So you will just not root your phone till you get s-off? Bc when the phone first came out all there was, was HTC dev unlock. Sitting with stock Rom is no fun...
And if you are not rooted or rooted it maybe a few version of android before soff comes out (if it does) which will keep you on old software and really not take advantage of new goodies
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I get what you're saying. But my preference is to have S-OFF. I don't have to update right now. I'm sitting on 1.15, and just waiting. Granted, there are features that I'm looking for from Jelly Bean that I want to have, which is why I want to root my phone. But, if Jelly Bean comes before we get an S-OFF method, then I may just update and let it go to whatever is there. I'd prefer to have S-OFF though. That's how I've gone with my EVO 3D, so I'm accustomed to that method.
I understand, it is "easier" but there are a lot of people on xda now thinking it us the end if the world ... All I want people to understand is that there are work arounds. To each their own
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I can understand people not wanting to update due to S-on. I mean, OTA update or running RUU to update firmware will also update hboot, which someone who's been hanging in there praying 1.15 is almost cracked,..well the last thing they're gonna wanna do is update hboot.
Hell, accepting S-on and the workarounds may be the only thing to do. With the amount of hboot updates HTC is releasing, I have to imagine anyone working on S-off has probably already just thrown up their hands.
I'm S-off, but still haven't updated radio or firmware due to the fact that at this point, downgrading bricks.
Sorry for OT
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scottspa74 said:
I can understand people not wanting to update due to S-on. I mean, OTA update or running RUU to update firmware will also update hboot, which someone who's been hanging in there praying 1.15 is almost cracked,..well the last thing they're gonna wanna do is update hboot.
Hell, accepting S-on and the workarounds may be the only thing to do. With the amount of hboot updates HTC is releasing, I have to imagine anyone working on S-off has probably already just thrown up their hands.
I'm S-off, but still haven't updated radio or firmware due to the fact that at this point, downgrading bricks.
Sorry for OT
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The fact that HTC has updated the HBoot 3 times since the release of the phone doesn't make things difficult. If anything, it would indicate that HTC is finding holes in their HBoot, and just patching them as they update the software. There are a lot of people sitting on 1.15 right now waiting for something to happen. I'm sure there's someone working on cracking it, it's just a matter of time, and how many people are possibly working on it. I'd like to think that there is someone working on it, but it's still not being put out there that it actually is by anyone. That's what people are all up in arms about.
Not necessarily, they may be adding extra support for in-house development, adding support for extra hardware, or they could be just cleaning up the code from the last update