Hey guys!
I was just wondering how people felt about the N10 after having been using it for a few months.
I bought mine the day it was available and have used it a lot since, draining the battery almost every day.
Six months later (more or less), the hardware is showing some wear, and I'm wondering how it is for everyone.
First, the micro USB port doesn't feel as snappy as it used to, and the port doesn't click anymore when I plug it in. I know it's normal wear, and I bought a pogo cable last week because I want to keep using it as much as I can. Also, the power button is also starting to feel a bit loose.
The volume rocker still feels great though, and so does the screen. I guess what I'm the most worried about is the power button, I'm just scared of wearing it down so much that it ends up being unable to register the presses. The screen is also still as bright and clear, absolutely no complaint, still no lightbleed. I've never used the micro HDMI port, so it still most likely feels as new.
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... I guess what I'm the most worried about is the power button, I'm just scared of wearing it down so much that it ends up being unable to register the presses. ...
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Although I haven't had my N10 long enough to comment, I already taken some precautions to reduce the number of times I have to use the physical power button.
1) I both reboot and power off using the notification panel and features available in a custom ROM
2) Use TWRP recovery which allows touch interactions
3) I use the normal timeout to shutoff the screen but also use "Screen Control" to automatically turn the screen on when I pick up the N10. It works in conjunction with the accelerometer.
Right now I really only use the physical volume buttons and will likely start using some gesture controls or something provided by a custom ROM. See my signature for the custom ROM/Kernel I am using although many have these same features.
Also getting a smart case with the auto on/off feature really helps minimize the use of the power button.
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I use the volume rockers to turn on the device, screen Off application to turn it off
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Long version: Not all MicroUSB cables snap the same. My two Samsung cables have moderate snap. The cord I usually use for charging my phone has less snap but a firm fit. Another generic cord was so firm that I threw it out because I was worried about damaging plugs with regular use. I've also run across a couple cables that were so sloppy the connection was intermittent. I've also had another Samsung cable that apparently broke on the mini end. No snap and all slop. But the socket in the device was fine. Switched cables and it never gave me any trouble. The feel of the connection varies greatly depending on the way the cable is constructed and there seems to be little consistency between manufacturers.
Short version: The reduced snap could be due to using a different cable.
FWIW, I bought one of the pogo adapters when the first batch showed up on ebay. I use an IPAD-ST stand I got off Amazon, lock the rotation, and set the Nexus 10 upside-down with the pogo connector on top. Works fine. That way I'm not constantly plugging and unplugging the USB cable. I haven't had trouble with it (or any connector) but there's no point in wearing out the USB port with all that use. Haven't had any trouble with the buttons, either, though they don't feel very substantial. Like the buttons on my Samsung Galaxy Nexus, they're very easy to press. Too easy. I have to be careful how I pick up or hold my Samsung devices. A portable device that can be held on any edge should have physical buttons that require deliberate activation. Like the volume buttons on my Touch Pro 2 phone. The amount of pressure generated by picking up or holding that phone never caused an unintentional button press. Same with the buttons along the bottom. Not that they're difficult to feel or use. They just require a deliberate push.
As for durability, the buttons on my Galaxy Nexus still work fine and I got my phone on release day. I ordered the Nexus 10 on release day and the buttons still work and feel the same as they did when I opened the box. No creaks or faults in the case of the devices. No scratches (or screen protector) on the display, no marks on the back. It's been pretty solid. But, for me, it's a transitional device. It'll go in the closet when I can get a tablet with a 2560x1600 (or close) OLED display. I figure that'll happen in two or three years. If the Nexus 10 lasts that long, I'll be content.
I wouldn't know. Mine has been with Samsung for going on two months now.
I really wish I knew what it'd be like after the 3 months of use I SHOULD have had on it...
EDIT: Thanks for link to screen control.
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Hey guys, don't get me wrong. I still love my note. I bought the note from Wireless Wave outright. It's just the power button is getting more and more wobbly by the day and it feels like it is sinking into the groove a bit more.
I know Samsung warranty is 1 yr and I have also bought extended warranty from Wireless Wave which is a store in Canada that I bought my Note from. I hear a lot of stories of how it is almost useless. What I want is either a new Note from warranty or be able to sell the note off for another Note. THE PROBLEM IS THAT I have a small dent from bumping the corner of the phone into a stone wall, right in the corner. I sanded it down and recoloured it black with permanent marker. LOL ALLMOST looks like new, slight discolouration and of course indent. Everything else on the phone is A-OKAY except the power button of course that annoys the hell out of me. Anyways my options are:
1. Try to get Wireless Wave to send it off and "exchange it" though what I think they do is send it off to a person that does repairs for them only to tell me that it's from wear and tear and they won't exchange it for me. OR they'll see the dent in the corner and say I was abusing the phone.
2. Try to get Samsung to exchange it, but this requires me sending it off and having to pay shipping and handling probably not to mention they might send it back saying it's just normal wear and tear again.
3. Sell it off in Kijiji (Canada's Craiglist) and buy a new phone
4. BE EVIL AND CHEAT THE SYSTEM BY TYPING IN ALL CAPS TO HARD BRICK MY PHONE AND PLAY DUMB TO THE PEOPLE TO EXCHANGE MY PHONE. Course this also has the drawback of them noticing that dent and saying YOU DROPPED THIS PHONE THEREFORE IT NO LONGER WORKS, DERP. Then I would **** out of luck. This is much more risky but absolute. I would like to avoid this method LOL.
Any input would be awesome! Thanks!
Or you could repair it yourself.
Have you actually called either WW or Samsung to see if this is something they would bother fixing? They should be able to tell you over the phone if they advise you to send it for repair. If they did instruct you to send it, I'd think they would be obligated to fix it since you came out of pocket for shipping.
Personally I never use the power button on a phone.. maybe.. 5% of the time. I use Volume Wake to wake the phone up and a Lock shortcut to power off.
I am using AOKP, so I have a lock in its navigation bar... But previously I used an app called Power Off and Lock and has it in my dock in my launcher.
I got into this habit when I heard about the power button failures on the Nexus 1 and I never wanted my power button to fail, so I used trackball wake and the method above (in launcher dock) to sleep.
This way when you really need to use the power button (when the phone is off, hard power-offs, etc) it's okay.
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Personally I never use the power button on a phone.. maybe.. 5% of the time. I use Volume Wake to wake the phone up and a Lock shortcut to power off.
I am using AOKP, so I have a lock in its navigation bar... But previously I used an app called Power Off and Lock and has it in my dock in my launcher.
I got into this habit when I heard about the power button failures on the Nexus 1 and I never wanted my power button to fail, so I used trackball wake and the method above (in launcher dock) to sleep.
This way when you really need to use the power button (when the phone is off, hard power-offs, etc) it's okay.
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So then your volume buttons wear out quicker.
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So then your volume buttons wear out quicker.
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And I really don't care if the power buttons wear out. I'd much prefer one of them wear out than my power button.
That said, hasn't happened yet. But I also tend to use a soft power off on the phone, my tablet has a magnetic switch in the case, etc etc..
I thought mine were loose and had to get my phone replaced for another issue and using a new note is amazing, the buttons are so responsive! They really messed up button durability on the note.
Get it fixed at a Chinese cellphone store (or usually, a cluster of them) 'cuz they simply rock the cost and performance ratio LOL.
Or, how I learned to not rip open phones on a messy desk.
My S2 was my first android phone, and man has it been an incredible phone. Really the only issue was some lockups with an att update, wherein I switched to ParanoidAndroid.
Unfortunately, recently the phone began having power button issues. It wouldn't wake from power presses, it would wake and work, or it would wake and suddenly restart the phone.
I figured it was the power button, so like a true fool, I got to work ripping open the phone to clean the inner guts.
Attached are a few bad pics I got. Good lord these phones get dirty as hell inside!
After spending 15 minutes cleaning the phone and the crap out of the power button, I went to re-assemble it.
When I realized that it was the volume button I was cleaning.
When I realized the power button dropped when I ripped it open.
The lesson here for me:
Open your phone as a last resort
Open your electronics in clean areas, so when you drop things...
and be careful!
I get these a lot. I can solder a new power button on for $50 including return shipping. You can email me @ seivad17 [at] msn.com if interested.
What's the problem? You just need to replace the power button. If you're not afraid of opening up your phone, then you can surely buy a cheap soldering kit and learn how to solder using youtube videos. That's what I did. You'll fix your phone and learn a very useful skill for a very, very small price.
I opened up my phone to fix the power button, and it started working, even though I didn't do much other than blowing some canned air into the area where the actual switch is. But in taking it apart, the vibrator motor got pulled off of its ribbon cable, so it doesn't work anymore. I've taken it apart a couple other times to look closer and see whether it's something I could just solder back on, or if I could buy a replacement part, but every time I open the case I get one or two new cracks in it, so I don't think I'll open it again to finish the job. I'll just live without the vibrator motor until I get a new phone.
Mine also failed recently due to the power button. It's nearly two years old, so I replaced it anyway. Think I'm going to buy a replacement power switch and see what I can do--maybe give it to a friend or something.
The strange thing is, when I pull it apart and use the phone without the actual power tab (rubber) in the slot, it will work. But not every time. So I'm thinking the button itself was being pressed too firmly while in the case/my pocket, which caused the switch itself to fail.
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Mine also failed recently due to the power button. It's nearly two years old, so I replaced it anyway. Think I'm going to buy a replacement power switch and see what I can do--maybe give it to a friend or something.
The strange thing is, when I pull it apart and use the phone without the actual power tab (rubber) in the slot, it will work. But not every time. So I'm thinking the button itself was being pressed too firmly while in the case/my pocket, which caused the switch itself to fail.
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I had something very similar. Used it for a few days after I switched on the Volume as screen activation (on CM). Then it stopped charging. Ended up being a ribbon cable from charging port to main board was bad. Got it replaced and it's as good as new.
Mine acts strange. When I put the battery, it automatically turns on and power button doesn't work, also USB but if I push USB really hard it gets working but works too bad. I cant make factory restore because of the power button, but also the battery is replacement battery, I charged it outside of the phone with the charger and in 30 minutes dropped from 21% to 10%, even doing nothing. So is it battery problem or my charging dock needs to be replaced? battery is 2200 Mah.
I had the same problem with my Cappy. I was able to get by still because I could still get into recovery. I just downloaded an app from the Play store that allowed me to have advanced reboot option. When I wanted to turn it off I just removed the battery.
I had seen a guy use a type of cleaner for electronic equipment that he sprayed inside a few times and operated the button. He said he was able to fix the problem. I don't remember the spray though.
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I get these a lot. I can solder a new power button on for $50 including return shipping. You can email me @ seivad17 [at] msn.com if interested.
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I'm going to fix my s3 and captivate. I looked up how easy it is and I was very pleased. Hoping to get it done soon.
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My power button died a few months ago and I've been using an app called "Wake Up Screen!!!" that let's me shake the phone when I want to turn it on.
It's getting a bit old, so I'm thinking of rooting it so I can map the power button to the volume button. Anyone know if I'll need to use the power button during the root process? This stuff is all new to me.
So after my daily workout (watching "Breaking Bad" on the tablet) I managed to let my trusty 201 slip from my hands while taking it off the thin little ledge on my exercise bike console.
BAM, landed right on its corner on the bike's steel support bar.
Now it appears to be functional - except for the small point that the screen don't come on anymore.
Since I cleverly just put a "pattern" lock on it before maiming the poor thing, I can't get it unlocked reliably, but when I press the screenshot button on the keyboard it makes the shutter-click sound.
And I am getting notification bleeps when new mail comes in.
But I'm blind.
I have taken some steps in the past to open it, I did the Wifi antenna thing and tried to get the GPS working (bahahaha what a waste of time THAT was!)... and I've repaired a number of other phones and crap... so I'm not unskilled in this arena.
And I'm sort of optimistically hoping it's just a loose cable or something. There's only the smallest dent in the casing in the corner. No cracks in the screen or anything.
But has anyone gone down this road and maybe has some pointers as to what to look out for? Is there a backlight module that might have popped and just needs replacing?
I'm very sad, this little guy has been my stalwart companion for many, many moons...
Thanks for any input.
R
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So after my daily workout (watching "Breaking Bad" on the tablet) I managed to let my trusty 201 slip from my hands while taking it off the thin little ledge on my exercise bike console.
BAM, landed right on its corner on the bike's steel support bar.
Now it appears to be functional - except for the small point that the screen don't come on anymore.
Since I cleverly just put a "pattern" lock on it before maiming the poor thing, I can't get it unlocked reliably, but when I press the screenshot button on the keyboard it makes the shutter-click sound.
And I am getting notification bleeps when new mail comes in.
But I'm blind.
I have taken some steps in the past to open it, I did the Wifi antenna thing and tried to get the GPS working (bahahaha what a waste of time THAT was!)... and I've repaired a number of other phones and crap... so I'm not unskilled in this arena.
And I'm sort of optimistically hoping it's just a loose cable or something. There's only the smallest dent in the casing in the corner. No cracks in the screen or anything.
But has anyone gone down this road and maybe has some pointers as to what to look out for? Is there a backlight module that might have popped and just needs replacing?
I'm very sad, this little guy has been my stalwart companion for many, many moons...
Thanks for any input.
R
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I have read some similar stories in the past and some times it has just been a cable that has dislodged inside.. Obviously this can vary but I would first try plugging in a hdmi cable to your TV and making sure that the graphics chip is still working.
I'd imagine it would be and your next step would be to open it up and start unplugging and replugging everything you can.
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I have read some similar stories in the past and some times it has just been a cable that has dislodged inside.. Obviously this can vary but I would first try plugging in a hdmi cable to your TV and making sure that the graphics chip is still working.
I'd imagine it would be and your next step would be to open it up and start unplugging and replugging everything you can.
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Aha! The hdmi cable. Hadn't occurred to me.
I love this forum.
(Also been using androwook for quite some time, with Data2SD... big fan - very smooth. would hate to lose and/or have to reinstall from scratch though!)
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I have read some similar stories in the past and some times it has just been a cable that has dislodged inside.. Obviously this can vary but I would first try plugging in a hdmi cable to your TV and making sure that the graphics chip is still working.
I'd imagine it would be and your next step would be to open it up and start unplugging and replugging everything you can.
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Well - this was a fantastic suggestion, since the HDMI gave me a perfect picture and the thing is (as thought) fully functional.
It was interesting trying to judge where to tap on the tablet to hit certain things on the screen, though.
This is actually quite a load off, since worst case I can get a new screen from ebay.
Thanks again, flumpster - I am much relieved, and you are a god among men!
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Well - this was a fantastic suggestion, since the HDMI gave me a perfect picture and the thing is (as thought) fully functional.
It was interesting trying to judge where to tap on the tablet to hit certain things on the screen, though.
This is actually quite a load off, since worst case I can get a new screen from ebay.
Thanks again, flumpster - I am much relieved, and you are a god among men!
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Here you go mate. I knew I had seen it before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRLcxI2JddQ#t=411
This is for the original transformer but they should be nearly the same.
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Here you go mate. I knew I had seen it before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRLcxI2JddQ#t=411
This is for the original transformer but they should be nearly the same.
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Nice!
I have my fingers crossed.
So do my kids, who are going into "Minecraft PE" withdrawal at the moment.
Well, after popping the case, I've disconnected and reconnected everything available - no change in behavior.
I'll try unsticking the LCD and see what else is in there, but it's looking like a more aggressive repair will be in order.
V.sad
PS there's also this vid I found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpJs_OI8joA
Arright. Here's my logic. Tell me where I'm wrong.
The video works - the HDMI proved that.
The tablet works - ditto.
Being able to touch and use the tablet shows me that the digitizer is ok, too.
I've reseated all the connectors, but I still can't get a picture.
Therefore, it's the LCD that's gone bad.
Therefore I should order a new LCD.
Right?
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Arright. Here's my logic. Tell me where I'm wrong.
The video works - the HDMI proved that.
The tablet works - ditto.
Being able to touch and use the tablet shows me that the digitizer is ok, too.
I've reseated all the connectors, but I still can't get a picture.
Therefore, it's the LCD that's gone bad.
Therefore I should order a new LCD.
Right?
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Hmmm.. Sounds logical but it could be the power going to the screen or something else that connects the screen. Or does the power etc control the digitizer also ?
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Hmmm.. Sounds logical but it could be the power going to the screen or something else that connects the screen. Or does the power etc control the digitizer also ?
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Well, there's one (and only one) ribbon cable feeding the LCD - and two going to the digitizer.
News, though - I pulled out the battery and found another ribbon cable tucked underneath to reseat.
After that, I put it back in and hooked up the LCD - and it came up!!
Sort of, anyway. It lit up enough to show me the spiderweb of cracks all along the bottom edge.
(I think I found my problem.)
Now off to eBay to shop for a replacement... I hope I didn't munge up anything else in there while I was mucking around!
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Well, there's one (and only one) ribbon cable feeding the LCD - and two going to the digitizer.
News, though - I pulled out the battery and found another ribbon cable tucked underneath to reseat.
After that, I put it back in and hooked up the LCD - and it came up!!
Sort of, anyway. It lit up enough to show me the spiderweb of cracks all along the bottom edge.
(I think I found my problem.)
Now off to eBay to shop for a replacement... I hope I didn't munge up anything else in there while I was mucking around!
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See if someone is selling a bricked Tf201 of TF300 that you can get the screen out of.
I've just taken delivery of an LG V30+ LGH930DS and although the finger print scanner works the actual on/off power button doesn't (or at least seems intermittent)? Can't recall if it was initially OK and then stopped after updating to Pie, but noticed when I'd installed a dark theme which then froze and I couldn't restart the phone.
Of course, all tips suggest doing a soft or safe mode reset.... which requires a working power button combo?!
Can't help but feel (hope!!) it's a software issue/setting somewhere, only I've now done a hard reset and it still doesn't work.
Any suggestions, massively appreciated.
Thanks.
The fingerprint scanner is a separate part, with its own contacts; the entire thing actually sits on top of the power button. It's not unusual that one goes out while the other continues working.
If you can't do a hard reset (hold power+vol down until the phone reboots, takes at least 6 seconds iirc) then I would suspect either the power button has gone bad or the contacts are no longer...er...making contact. Try pressing the back glass around the power button as you press it to check the latter.
If you can make the phone reset with the above, it's a software issue.
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The fingerprint scanner is a separate part, with its own contacts; the entire thing actually sits on top of the power button. It's not unusual that one goes out while the other continues working.
If you can't do a hard reset (hold power+vol down until the phone reboots, takes at least 6 seconds iirc) then I would suspect either the power button has gone bad or the contacts are no longer...er...making contact. Try pressing the back glass around the power button as you press it to check the latter.
If you can make the phone reset with the above, it's a software issue.
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Thanks. Will see how I get on with your suggestions above. Meanwhile, quick update: started working again... then stopped again. Also last night the restart screen came on several times by itself (flickering awake from standby, as if I'd put my finger on the back). Only thought I have is that it may be a lose part inside that's occasionally causing trouble - specifically DIM tray eject 'bit' which was broken when I got it?
Thanks again.
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Only thought I have is that it may be a lose part inside that's occasionally causing trouble - specifically DIM tray eject 'bit' which was broken when I got it?
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I can't check to make sure, but the SIM eject mechanism is most likely all-plastic. The only think that might be metal is the pivot (assuming the eject is a lever mechanism), but something like that should be fixed in place pretty well and unlikely to ever come out.
The power button contacts are pretty widely-spaced anyway, it would take something long to bridge them and something that long would find it very difficult (if not impossible) to work its way in where the contacts are.
The problem is, just about everything you'd do to confirm it's a physical issue rather than something electrically wrong with the mainboard, involves taking the back off.
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Also last night the restart screen came on several times by itself (flickering awake from standby, as if I'd put my finger on the back).
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Hmm. This sort of thing actually happened to my first "powerful" android phone, a Motorola Droid 4.
It also had a mostly-inoperative power button, and I ended up physically removing the button from the mainboard in order to stop it from randomly going to sleep or, more annoyingly, restarting because it sometimes "thought" someone was holding the power button in. This actually didn't work, it was a board fault somewhere else and I ended up getting a busted phone to pull a replacement board from.
Not saying that is what's going on here, just that it sure does resonate.
Unless you feel really good about your chances, or got an exceptionally good deal, I'd see about returning the phone and finding another.
Otherwise, you can get a power button off ebay for around $12, if you're in the US.
This video shows it's fairly easy to replace, but you'll need a suction cup, a plastic card (credit cards work well), and ideally an adhesive sticker or rubber cement to close it back up properly (not strictly necessary, I ran mine for a while just tacked together with the old gasket while I searched for a new battery, no problem aside from intermittent fingerprint scanner disconnects). B7000 adhesive is well-regarded for this type of work and useful for other things, if you're the crafty sort.
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LG V30+ LGH930DS
although the finger print scanner works the actual on/off power button doesn't (or at least seems intermittent)?
Any suggestions, massively appreciated.
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Place the phone on a Qi wireless charging pad. If it's off, it will boot up/power up.
Once booted up you can install a software app workaround, for rebooting, etc.
If you don't have one, go to a carrier store and use one being displayed for sale. Then buy one for home.
Not only will Qi wireless pad charge a phone, it will TURN ON a phone if it's placed on the (plugged in) pad.
I've given many people this advice who have wonky power buttons with phones that have Qi wireless charging:
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From another post on the subject two years ago:
This Qi wireless charging pad automatic turn on feature is great for when your power button malfunctions. Phones get older, things break.
On the Motorola Quark series (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx) several people were able to figure out whether it was their power button that had jammed or whether their phone had actually died. Phone wouldn't turn on.
We told them "Go to a carrier store. Put the phone on one of the Qi wireless charging pads on display. " If it turns on, it's the button. If it doesn't, you've got bigger issues.
Powering off and on Droid Turbo with broken power button
and a testimonial from another thread:
POWER BUTTON PROBLEM -- QI CHARGER WORKS
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I've read in another forum that a Qi wireless charger will turn the phone on to charge it- does any know if this is how it works? If the phone is off, the Qi charger will turn it on and then perform a charging? What if it is drained completely?
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The Qi Wireless Charger works whether your phone is charged or not.. I went to the Verizon store and asked to see the charger demo'd... I placed my powered off, Fully Charged, Broken-power-button-Droid Turbo on the charger and it Came to life.
I immediately configured the phone with an alternate power button app to control the screen on/off. FYI None of the apps I found will actually power the phone on from off, but will control the screen once it is powered.
I actually tried everything in this forum, short of the disassembly of the phone but that was next...
The program download.. Reboot Fast Boot; I couldn't get it to download correctly. after about 3 hours I quit... drove to the store and the rest is history. So Glad Not to have Lost everything!..
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Luckily for many, it was "just" the power button.
Many people then actually bought a pad for the first time to keep their phones on until they could get the power button repaired.
Hi. My power button was dead for about a week. Then I tried pressing the spot on the screen opposing the power button while pressing the button itself for a few second (with a little bit more pressure).
Then it just came back to life. I doubt this would permanently fixed the problem. But I'm relieved to have my power button back!
I will update later if the button gone bad again in future.
I've had this suddenly happen with the V30+ that I've had for nearly a year. Here's how I'm living with it, in case it helps anyone else who stumbles upon this thread.
For turning the screen off and on, I double tap the screen. I happen to use Lawnchair launcher, which supports the gesture, so I set its Double Tap gesture to Sleep. If you use another launcher, see if it supports that gesture and action. If it doesn't, you can try the Double Tap app in the Play Store, which I used before switching launchers. In both cases, you need to be on your launcher's home screen to turn off the screen, but it's an easy habit to get into.
For rebooting, I use one of the many apps available in the Play Store. They all require root. I think that I like Super Reboot the best, since it's not a fullscreen app and, so, looks like a popup menu.
If you happen to not have root and need to reboot into recovery in order to install Magisk (which seems like a catch-22), do the following:
1. Open Settings.
2. Enable developer options by going to About and tapping on "Build number" 7 times.
3. Go to System->Developer options, scroll down to the "Debugging" section and enable "Local terminal"
4. Go to your app drawer and launch Terminal.
5. Type "reboot recovery" and hit Enter. You could also do plain "reboot" and, I think, "reboot bootloader", but you probably want to enter recovery to flash Magisk so that you can use one of the store apps from now on, instead of Terminal.
That last tip is the main one that I wanted to share because it's not easy to figure out on your own and because I found myself in that situation. I thought that I had flashed Magisk while I was in recovery, but I guess that I didn't or did it in the wrong order. I was stumped for half an hour and wasted a lot of time trying lots of different reboot apps, only to discover that none of them worked without root, until I tried this Terminal method and found that it worked, surprisingly.
Following up on my last post (just above), I now know why my power button stopped working a month ago. Today, I removed my case to try out another and the glass back of the phone has come off on two sides. Looking inside revealed a familiar friend: a swelled battery. On a hunch, I tried the power button again and, with extra pressure, discovered that it still works. What must've happened is that, a month ago, the battery started swelling and lifted the back cover just enough so that the power button no longer made contact, but not enough for me to notice any swelling with the case on. It's funny that I was concerned, when I was choosing this phone, with how I would ever remove the battery and, here, when the time came, the battery removed itself.
Anyways, if your power button has stopped working, rather than it being because the button has gone bad, it might be an early warning that your battery is swelling and will need to be replaced soon. Fortunately, replacement batteries that even include all of the tools needed are as cheap as $10 on eBay or $15 on Amazon. Search for "BL-T34". Some compatibles on Amazon even have up to 500 mAh higher capacity. I'm going to order one ASAP and, hopefully, that'll solve my power button issue (in addition to the slightly more serious issue of carrying around a bomb 6 inches from my crotch).
Edit: I got the battery today and finished the job in about half an hour. It wasn't bad. It helped that the battery did half of the work of removing the back cover for me. I didn't need to use heat to loosen the glue. In fact, I didn't even need to use any glue to put everything back together, because the existing stuff was still sticky enough. I could've reinforced it, but I didn't want to because I may have to do this again in a year or two (and even if I've upgraded by then, having a working spare or giving it to a loved one will be nice). Oh, yeah, as predicted and hoped for, my power button now works again! I'm happy. For $15 and a half hour of labor, my phone is as good as new (maybe even arguably better, since it now has a 3800 mAh battery in it instead of the stock 3300 mAh one).
Edit #2: I discovered a cool app called Battery Charge Limit (root required), which stops charging at a pre-set percentage (I'm setting it to 80%). Hopefully, this will increase the new battery's lifespan and, particularly, avoid the overnight overcharging that I suspect is what caused the last battery to swell.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/battery-charge-limit-lg-v30-pie-t3975433
I bought my Huawei MediaPad M5 8.4" android tablet back in 2019. It has given me almost no issues other than it started to slow down recently.
Before a trip I took, I fully charged it, powered it off, and put it in my bag. This was on a Thursday. A few days later on Sunday I went to use it and it would not power on. Plugging it into multiple known good chargers does nothing. It is showing zero signs of life (no vibration, no screen power). There is zero physical damage that I can see - no bends or cracks or anything. And the USB-C port still feels solid.
I've tried...
Holding the power button for 15-20+ seconds.
Holding the power button and volume down for 15-20+ seconds.
Holding the power button and volume up for 15-20+ seconds.
Holding the power button and volume up+down for 15-20+ seconds.
Tried charging it with multiple known good chargers.
Tried leaving it plugged into known good chargers for hours.
Tried the button combos above while plugged in.
Tried wiggling the power button, volume rocker, and the physical "home" "button" in case they were stuck and causing issues...
Even tried flipping the USB-C cable...
Tried adding some very light pressure to the power cable (like up/down/left/right) to see if it would give me a sign that the charging port was loose.
Have tried googling it, a lot, but seems like no one else has run into this issue.
I've tried all of the above many many times, on different days just hoping for any signs of life and got nothing.
Anyone else run into this and figure out what the issue is?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions/advice!
First off hats off to you for posting the perfect model of how to troubleshoot and then post your experience!
Sad to say I don't have / haven't had this issue. But I do want to ask obvious questions (at the pain of seeming obtuse) and propose one more (probably futile) step and one possibly fruitful.
Questions:
- You've wisely tried swapping chargers. Have you tried multiple cables? (I bet you did.) And did you try both USB-A to USB-C and USB-C to USB-C cables?
- Can I safely assume that when you call a charger a known good one have you used the same cable and charger combo with a different Android device (such as a USB-C equipped phone) to attempt charging the tablet?
- Do you feel as though the power button is actually moving when you press it?
Suggestions:
Try using a toothpick immersed in rubbing alcohol and gently probe around the USB connector. (Maybe there's some dust or crud blocking the contacts.)
This seems dopey but how long have you plugged in using a known good charger? I have succeeded with a hoplelessly old Samsung S3 and Nexus 7 tablet by leaving them charging for 24 hours.
In each case I walked away from the seemingly defunct device with a sense of resignation and disgust. Boy was I surprised to see that they were alive again! In those cases the devices had weak batteries and it took massive charging to get them to boot again-- and the battery life was poor once they actually booted. (My Nexus 7 is on my desk here begging to be put out of it's misery. It has a replacement screen, so it's been through rough times.)
FYI:
You mention that the tablet was gradually slowing down. If you ultimately succeed in breathing life back into it: have you periodically cleared the cache partition by booting into recovery. (I have to bet you did 'cause you have tested with the volume up + power key combination in troubleshooting.)
P.S.
I have also had mine since 2019. I have not noticed any significant degradation of battery life or unusual decline in performance. Periodic cache clearing has helped me. (And I think that silly defrag notication is probably an act of superstition. But I do let it function anyhow.)
Even if nothing I've said turns your day into sunshine, I hope at least it's reassuring that you're not screaming into the dark alone. Feel free to ask for more ideas if you have any more evidence to work with.
1st - Thanks for the quick reply! Definitely appreciate it!
- You've wisely tried swapping chargers. Have you tried multiple cables? (I bet you did.) And did you try both USB-A to USB-C and USB-C to USB-C cables?
- Can I safely assume that when you call a charger a known good one have you used the same cable and charger combo with a different Android device (such as a USB-C equipped phone) to attempt charging the tablet?
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Yeah, tried different cables and power adapters and wall outlets. All are known to be good by plugging my phone in and getting it to charge. I did not try a USB-C to USB-C - I actually don't think I own one, hah. If I come across one I'll give it a try and update if that fixes it. Kinda tempted to go find one - maybe the extra juice will give it the extra kick it needs?? I've seen weirder things...
- Do you feel as though the power button is actually moving when you press it?
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Yes. All of the buttons still have that tactile/responsive/click feel when pushing it in.
Try using a toothpick immersed in rubbing alcohol and gently probe around the USB connector. (Maybe there's some dust or crud blocking the contacts.)
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Good idea! Will give this a try but currently out of rubbing alcohol. I did try (and forgot to list even tho I did this whilst making the list) using some compressed air around the buttons and around the charging port (making sure to keep the can up-right so I'm not freezing anything)
This seems dopey but how long have you plugged in using a known good charger? I have succeeded with a hoplelessly old Samsung S3 and Nexus 7 tablet by leaving them charging for 24 hours.
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I didn't leave it plugged in overnight since the tablet isn't functioning properly and don't want to leave it charging whilst I'm sleeping in case it shorts or whatever. But I did have it on the charger, multiple times, for 2-6(?) hours at a time. It is plugged in now.
You mention that the tablet was gradually slowing down. If you ultimately succeed in breathing life back into it: have you periodically cleared the cache partition by booting into recovery. (I have to bet you did 'cause you have tested with the volume up + power key combination in troubleshooting.)
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I have not cleared the cache partition via recovery. IF I get this thing alive again, will give it a try. I only mentioned it to highlight how little issues I've had and how completely out of the blue this no power issue is.
(And I think that silly defrag notication is probably an act of superstition. But I do let it function anyhow.)
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Lol, yes. "We have cleared up 42kb of defragmented files" ... thanks MediaPad! /s lol
Even if nothing I've said turns your day into sunshine, I hope at least it's reassuring that you're not screaming into the dark alone. Feel free to ask for more ideas if you have any more evidence to work with.
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Thanks again! I really appreciate you! The world needs more of you!!
I can report to have had the exact same issue with my Huawei MediaPad M5 8.4", battery went empty when the device was in the bag over a weekend, and I have not been successful in recharging or starting the device with any of the trouble shooting given in the above messages. The USB-C connector on the device doesn't feel any looser than on any other USB-C device that I own, and all the other devices recharge from all of the charger + cable -combinations that I've tried on this device.
Same device, same problem. Have tried all the above with no joy. Wondering if the battery has gone into deep drain so currently trying 4.2v @ 600mah 'trickle' for 24 hours. My device was new 1/1/20. Best tablet I've owned for performance, display resolution, battery life () and aesthetics. Damn shame if dead. There is a useful teardown vid here here but I can't find a replacement battery anywhere. If I have any luck on any front I'll post back.
Hello,
Same problem with same tablet. I've tried to replace battery and USB c connector and my tablet doesn't start.
I've tried many cables, many adapters, nothing work...
Did you find a solution with your problem?
@KindaIrish Did you find a solution?
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@KindaIrish Did you find a solution?
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Sadly no. If you or anyone does, I'd love to resurrect it!
Thank you for your answer. I've tried to change USB port and battery and still not working. I will test with another battery (the seller will send me another one).
etraga said:
Hello,
Same problem with same tablet. I've tried to replace battery and USB c connector and my tablet doesn't start.
I've tried many cables, many adapters, nothing work...
Did you find a solution with your problem?
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You even replaced the battery AND USB-C connector and that didn't give it any life?!? That's surprising to me! Thanks for trying that and reporting results... the mystery continues...
A buddy of mine mentioned another piece of hardware that could have failed, I'll report back if he remembers what that was.
@etraga When you had it open, you obviously didn't see anything bad but did you take a real good close look around specifically checking for any signs of a short or corrosion or anything like that? Sometimes they are not always obvious or easy to see.
Two Questions for everyone having this issue:
1 - When was the last time your device worked? For me it was a few days before my original post; around March 24, 2022. Curious if all of ours died at basically the same time, but maybe didn't try using it for a few weeks/months?
2 - What country are you located? USA for me. Asking because I wonder if there is ANY relation to the Huawei ban in the US. Highly doubtful, but at this point who knows...
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You even replaced the battery AND USB-C connector and that didn't give it any life?!? That's surprising to me! Thanks for trying that and reporting results... the mystery continues...
A buddy of mine mentioned another piece of hardware that could have failed, I'll report back if he remembers what that was.
@etraga When you had it open, you obviously didn't see anything bad but did you take a real good close look around specifically checking for any signs of a short or corrosion or anything like that? Sometimes they are not always obvious or easy to see.
Two Questions for everyone having this issue:
1 - When was the last time your device worked? For me it was a few days before my original post; around March 24, 2022. Curious if all of ours died at basically the same time, but maybe didn't try using it for a few weeks/months?
2 - What country are you located? USA for me. Asking because I wonder if there is ANY relation to the Huawei ban in the US. Highly doubtful, but at this point who knows...
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Yes I've replaced both, I found a battery from Deutschland and USB-c connector from China on AliExpress. Maybe one of them don't work, it's really weird...
I didn't find anything special when I open the tablet.
I'm from France and my tablet doesn't work since May or June.
Found this thread after replacing the battery of a Huawei AGS-W09 MediaPad did not change the symptoms:
Red LED is on, close to the selfie cam when plugged into charger.
LED goes dark when disconnected.
No other form of life provokable from the machine.
Last summer (I think it was August 2022) I realized a sharp drop in battery capacity that soon resulted in the status quo described above.
Pretty sure a battery change should fix it, but no, it didn't. Just saw naive me got the battery from Aliexpress, however, so maybe I got a bad one.
Your symptoms are little bit different aren't they?
FYI: I'm located in Austria, central Europe
Here another one , Huawei Mediapad 8.4 SHT_W09 . It wont turn in anymore
i was busy with loading a stock rom from Sd Card, but i think it had a lack off power, i had it frequently on the charger.
It was functioning well but i was playing around with other roms
It was unlocked and by far a great tablet, very solid and no loose connector or something like that
if i connect it to my pc i can hear that the USB connects.
hope to bring it alive and kicking...
Hans from Netherlands