Power on with no battery ??? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey all , got a question for the tbolt community. My cousin told me her grandson was playing with her phone and it got wet apparently, afterwards her phone would power on but no screen , so I took a look at it and checked by holding down the power button and I felt the vibration and the soft keys light up but no screen, so as I started to hook it up to my laptop I for the hell of it opened the battey cover and to my surprise ... No battery , hadent been in the phone since it hit water a few days ago . I thought I was going crazy like it didn't happen so I figured I'd ask you guys . what do you think ?
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bsmitty83 said:
Hey all , got a question for the tbolt community. My cousin told me her grandson was playing with her phone and it got wet apparently, afterwards her phone would power on but no screen , so I took a look at it and checked by holding down the power button and I felt the vibration and the soft keys light up but no screen, so as I started to hook it up to my laptop I for the hell of it opened the battey cover and to my surprise ... No battery , hadent been in the phone since it hit water a few days ago . I thought I was going crazy like it didn't happen so I figured I'd ask you guys . what do you think ?
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She may want to hold onto it for her protection because it can be no other than a live Transformer.
Nah, just kidding.
Holding the certain keys can have the phone do a "hard reset" type thing.
Or, at least, I've read that somewhere.
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I'm pretty sure that if its plugged into USB and you do that it will do the vibrate and light the soft keys up even without a battery in. Won't get any further though. Put the phone in a Ziploc bag of dry brown rice for a couple of days. It will dry up any moisture left in the phone. If you powered it up before it is completely dry it is going to fry. I know it sounds silly but I actually keep a bag of this with me in my truck while I'm working because I have dropped so many of my work phones in water.
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Thanks for the replies . especially to a kinda silly question lol , but I've had a few android phones and never ran across this .but her phone works and she's happy to have it back after I gave her my inc2 as a loaner . just a weird anomaly I guess
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My EVO 4G Just Died Strike 3 and I'm Out Unfortunately

It locked up once and I restarted it.
Locked up again after a few minutes, shut itself down and no matter what I do, I can't get it to restart.
Kind of a suck way to start the day.
Just this afternoon picked up my shiny new replacement from Best Buy...totally new shipment which had just came in. I added no apps and 15 minutes later the first random reboot. It rebootted7 times in two hours and then just t turned itself off and won't come back to life.
No...the battery isn't dead.
Plug it into any charger and the charging light doesn't come on.
Seriously....this is frustrating.
maybe its your battery
let it charge for a bit with the device off
did you unlock the boot loader
can u flash roms?
can u even get to the bootloader?
Phone is fully charged. It was working fine during a call and when I hung up the call, the screen locked up then quickly blinked twice and that was that.
I tried pushing the power switch for almost two minutes and noting happened.
Better now than when I am traveling for work I suppose.
Take it back before the grace period. Lolz?
My tpu case seems to be making the power button stick causing reboots. If you have a case, take it off and I would also remove the shiny top back cover and try again. If that doesn't work, call for replacement.
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Do a battery pu...... Oh wait
tkemack said:
My tpu case seems to be making the power button stick causing reboots. If you have a case, take it off and I would also remove the shiny top back cover and try again. If that doesn't work, call for replacement.
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If you take the shiny back cover off you maybe removing something important. Look on the inside surface of the cover and you will see copper contact points. Is this the NFC antenna. I'm ignorant to how it works, just speculating.
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regulator207 said:
If you take the shiny back cover off you maybe removing something important. Look on the inside surface of the cover and you will see copper contact points. Is this the NFC antenna. I'm ignorant to how it works, just speculating.
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I suggested taking it off just to try to get the phone to boot in case the power button us stuck. I didn't intend for him to leave it off forever
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I understood what you meant
I did try it minus my TPU cover just in case that was the issue although the power button seems perfectly free..
Maybe they new camera will somehow magically be better
jfenton57 said:
I understood what you meant
I did try it minus my TPU cover just in case that was the issue although the power button seems perfectly free..
Maybe they new camera will somehow magically be better
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Unclear if you got it to boot?...
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Well.....it sprang back to life all by itself sitting on my desk at work this morning (it is sitting there waiting for BB to call me and tell me they have a new replacement). It simply powered up, booted and came to life sitting there.
It now reboots a couple of times an hour just sitting there and at times actually turns Mobile Networks OFF all by itself.
Perhaps it is possessed?
jfenton57 said:
Well.....it sprang back to life all by itself sitting on my desk at work this morning (it is sitting there waiting for BB to call me and tell me they have a new replacement). It simply powered up, booted and came to life sitting there.
It now reboots a couple of times an hour just sitting there and at times actually turns Mobile Networks OFF all by itself.
Perhaps it is possessed?
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Bad battery contacts?
Just this afternoon picked up my shiny new replacement from Best Buy...totally new shipment which had just came in. I added no apps and 15 minutes later the first random reboot. It rebootted7 times in two hours and then just t turned itself off and won't come back to life.
No...the battery isn't dead.
Plug it into any charger and the charging light doesn't come on.
Seriously....this is frustrating.
jfenton57 said:
Just this afternoon picked up my shiny new replacement from Best Buy...totally new shipment which had just came in. I added no apps and 15 minutes later the first random reboot. It rebootted7 times in two hours and then just t turned itself off and won't come back to life.
No...the battery isn't dead.
Plug it into any charger and the charging light doesn't come on.
Seriously....this is frustrating.
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It must be you. I think you need Jesus in your life.
Yeah.....maybe that's my problem. My heart sunk with the first lockup and reboot. I said some rather ugly stuff to my phone in the car.
BB stated they had taken back two out of the 7 preorders and when I asked for what reason, he said he wasn't sure.
Tomorrow I will exchange it one more time at a BB 100 miles away from the first one since we are away this weekend and they are already holding it for me. Maybe a change of venue will help
Sounds like some serious bad luck. I haven't heard of anyone's dying until you. I hope the different BBY return will do better for you man...
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shook187 said:
It must be you. I think you need Jesus in your life.
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or Cthulhu. but we all know both are fiction
NewZJ said:
or Cthulhu. but we all know both are fiction
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Cthulhu isn't fiction bro.
Don't know who the other guy is.
jfenton57 said:
Well.....it sprang back to life all by itself sitting on my desk at work this morning (it is sitting there waiting for BB to call me and tell me they have a new replacement). It simply powered up, booted and came to life sitting there.
It now reboots a couple of times an hour just sitting there and at times actually turns Mobile Networks OFF all by itself.
Perhaps it is possessed?
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Man, you got to break two EVO's already.
I'm just waiting to get the chance to break my first.
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or Cthulhu. but we all know both are fiction
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Speak for yourself, troll.

[Q] Black Screen...!!

So now to the problem, i bought this HTC Amaze 4G from ebay, the description said that the phone has water damaged but that everything still worked except the lcd, that its black. So i bought the phone and a brand new lcd, so i thought it was a easy fix. So i got the phone did the replacement, and as the ebay description said everything was still working, it boots up and vibrates and i can call it and itll ring and text it and leave voicemails so it seems like its all there, EXCEPT the lcd is still black! I already installed the new lcd but its still showing up black. So anybody have any ideas?
At first i thought oh ok it needs to charge (cos at first it wouldn't even turn on), then it did turn on but the screen was still black, so i thought the motherboard is fried, but i did the calling and texting and the other little tests, so im thinking its not the motherboard... Any ideas guys? Thanks.
I had this issue with a MyTouch 4G before. i couldn't figure it so i gave up on it for a little bit, Then one day it came on but the moment you touched the screen or a boot animation played the screen would shut off, and the phone would continue to boot. I ended up taking the phone apart and cleaning the board. Put it back together and its worked great ever since.
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Savedmoss said:
I had this issue with a MyTouch 4G before. i couldn't figure it so i gave up on it for a little bit, Then one day it came on but the moment you touched the screen or a boot animation played the screen would shut off, and the phone would continue to boot. I ended up taking the phone apart and cleaning the board. Put it back together and its worked great ever since.
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oh ok, thats a good idea. what did you clean it with? alcohol swab or just regular wet towel? thanks for the advice
I had some special cleaner left over and i used a cotton swab. But alcohol should work, just be careful to make sure the swab isn't dripping wet, and that you don't leave cotton strands caught to solder points.
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Savedmoss said:
I had some special cleaner left over and i used a cotton swab. But alcohol should work, just be careful to make sure the swab isn't dripping wet, and that you don't leave cotton strands caught to solder points.
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alright then! thanks! ill definitely try that right now.!:laugh:
Any luck?
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Savedmoss said:
Any luck?
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sadly no.... but im gonna try it again tonight... if i cant fix it within the next couple of days im just gonna resell it...
thanks though.

[Q]SGS 2 goes into the wash tub for 5 mins!!!

Short Version:
So here I am with a i9100 drowned in wash tub for almost 5 mins. Now trying to dry it up. Don't know what will happen. Will keep you guys posted.
Long Version:
Just came out shower and kept my phone in pants. Went for packing bag as I had to travel today. Wore my jeans and kept that pant away with the phone in it. Left to another room for packing. After coming back the pant had vanished. Enquired about the pant to my mom and she told the she soaked the pant in wash tub. It was like 5 mins. Rushed to the wash tub and removed the phone, removed battery and shook off and removed a lot of water. Now the phone is lying in pieces and kept under 60W bulb. Lets see will dry this thing up for 16 hrs and then insert the battery.
Guys your tips and comments will be really helpful for resurrecting the i9100.
Leave for a week in a container of rice.If that doesnt cure it,claim off of house insurance.......or sue your mother.
Rice is best for drying the phone completely. It just soaks up all the moisture.
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wow, nice to know the rice trick... thanks!
@TS: best wishes for your sgs2..
don't put in anything. Just let it dry the normal way.
Wish I knew this trick few years ago. Had similar situation with my eeepc but it was a diet soda that was poured on it. I waited whole week before turning it back on after cleaning it. Good thing though: no sugar=no stickiness...
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drraptor said:
don't put in anything. Just let it dry the normal way.
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Rice methord actually works and there is no harm from it as far as I know. To OP don't put the battery in till its fully dry
UPDATE 1:
The battery is having a soap like corrosion on the extreme right pin. I think the battery is short circuited. Maybe i will have to check a new battery at a local retailer to just test whether the phone is alive or dead. BTW 20 hours of phone warming (under a 60W bulb) completed. Phone is pretty warm and I dont think insides must be wet now. Also the phone seems to be much shinier than before
ashzoomerintrack said:
UPDATE 1:
The battery is having a soap like corrosion on the extreme right pin. I think the battery is short circuited. Maybe i will have to check a new battery at a local retailer to just test whether the phone is alive or dead. BTW 20 hours of phone warming (under a 60W bulb) completed. Phone is pretty warm and I dont think insides must be wet now. Also the phone seems to be much shinier than before
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Don't put that battery, you will melt your phone.
Buy a new battery.
Don't try to turn your phone on again, wait atleast 3 days, put it inside a package of rice and just wait. also dont forget to close the bag.
And most inportant of um all....don't forget to tell youre mother that the sgs2 is in the rice bag or else she will start cooking rice....with youre sgs2 maybe at the bottom of the cooking pan:crying:
mad-monk said:
And most inportant of um all....don't forget to tell youre mother that the sgs2 is in the rice bag or else she will start cooking rice....with youre sgs2 maybe at the bottom of the cooking pan:crying:
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rofl
Lolzzzzzzz....
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Good naughty reply
+1 for the joke
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UPDATE FINAL:
So put in my battery today and the phone refused to show any sign of life. Ultimately took my phone to service centre. They opened up the phone and inspected it. The inspection revealed that:
1. The mainboard is dead
2. The digitizer connector adapter is damaged. Still further if the phone boots up further damage could be assessed.
The cost for the repairs were claimed as INR 15000 ($285) which is way too costly. Maybe I will have to give my phone. Hmmm I am thinking to buy a Galaxy Nexus now. I cant afford an S2 again now nor a repaired S2. It feels really sad to loose my beloved phone.
Miracle Update:
Was missing my phone today so thought should start up my phone. And miracle happened. The phone booted up after attaching the charger. Awesome stuff. Samsung rocks in terms of hardware. Now only two things are not working blue tooth and the phone is not getting via charger. And some stains are found on inner glass of back camera lens. Rest each and everything rocks! I am really happy with build quality.
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ashzoomerintrack said:
Miracle Update:
Was missing my phone today so thought should start up my phone. And miracle happened. The phone booted up after attaching the charger. Awesome stuff. Samsung rocks in terms of hardware. Now only two things are not working blue tooth and the phone is not getting via charger. And some stains are found on inner glass of back camera lens. Rest each and everything rocks! I am really happy with build quality.
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Good to hear that. :thumbup:
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Just list it on eBay as a "nice clean phone".
Keep the phone in rice for a few more days. Absorbs moisture.
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owais2k said:
Keep the phone in rice for a few more days. Absorbs moisture.
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Hmmm. Will be doing that. :thumbup:
theunderling said:
Just list it on eBay as a "nice clean phone".
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LOL
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I am extremely astonished by the way people here support each other, anyway kudos to you all, xda rock's.
Using GT - I9100
I thank those who give helpful comments

Water sensors on HTC One

Hi guys,
Does anyone know where the water sensors (white round strips) are on HTC One? I accidentally dropped my HTC One in water. It started vibrating and I could not turn it off. It turned off once the battery got drained. I am not sure if I should try to plug it in. Its just over a month that I bought it..but I dont have the accidental insurance...I wonder how HTC knows if the cellphone (in particular HTC One as it is pain in the ass to open according to ifixit) has water damage or not.
Thoughts??
Appreciate your help!!
Thanks...
just call att and tell them then you want the insurance added. tell them you didn't realize it was just over a month. they always honor it. then next day do a claim.
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I am not sure if you should try turning it on either. Not do I know about how htc detects water damage.
My sister-in-law spilled some soda on her phone and put it in a jar of dry rice (surrounding the phone with rice entirely) to dry it out. It worked well for her, but I don't know how effective it is in general. Nevertheless, it might be worth a shot.
When I took my phone in for a replacement they checked what color it was under the glass for the flash. Maybe that could be it somehow?
Pull out the SIM card slot. Put it a container filled with uncooked rice and seal it up. Make sure you bury the phone into the rice so it sucks out the moisture from the phone. Leave it there for about 3-4 days. Take it out, place SIM card back in, plug in charger and see if the red notification light turns on. If it does, it means its charging and let it charge for about 30 minutes before powering it on.
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I did the rice thing already for 2 days. Plugged in this morning. The red charging light starts flickering and then has been blinking ever since. Not a solid red light like its supposed to be during charging. Phone doesnt get charged. Tried holding power button for 10-15 sec with no luck.
I am assuming if I call HTC, they wont honor the warranty no more...Am I correct?
seahorse34 said:
I did the rice thing already for 2 days. Plugged in this morning. The red charging light starts flickering and then has been blinking ever since. Not a solid red light like its supposed to be during charging. Phone doesnt get charged. Tried holding power button for 10-15 sec with no luck.
I am assuming if I call HTC, they wont honor the warranty no more...Am I correct?
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I would try AT&T they may swap it out without checking. HTC probably will check.
RestInPieces209 said:
When I took my phone in for a replacement they checked what color it was under the glass for the flash. Maybe that could be it somehow?
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When I called for service they mentioned the same thing. They asked if the yellow around the flash was red at all.
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Shocking suggestion but how about being honest and paying for repairs and your mistake.
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eallan said:
Shocking suggestion but how about being honest and paying for repairs and your mistake.
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Pfft being honest is so 1950's
sent from my mom's basement
eallan said:
Shocking suggestion but how about being honest and paying for repairs and your mistake.
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or sell it As Is and get a S4 Active and never have to worry about this again
MrGriffdude said:
Pfft being honest is so 1950's
sent from my mom's basement
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Don't mind him, he's a skyrocket user (was) we're all smartasses.
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Why damage can be easily seen under microscope any part of any PC board
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I have the One and the Skyrocket. I guess I'm a smart ass then.
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SKyRocKeting727 said:
I have the One and the Skyrocket. I guess I'm a smart ass then.
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Lol you know how most of us skyrocketeers are.
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seahorse34 said:
I did the rice thing already for 2 days. Plugged in this morning. The red charging light starts flickering and then has been blinking ever since. Not a solid red light like its supposed to be during charging. Phone doesnt get charged. Tried holding power button for 10-15 sec with no luck.
I am assuming if I call HTC, they wont honor the warranty no more...Am I correct?
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The same is happening to my phone right now after i kept it in rice for 3 days. What happened to ur phone then?
The flash is the water sensor, as others have mentioned or guessed. I was at the AT&T store for a sim card swap and casually asked. I know the tech well and he told me where it was himself. Also, the dry ice trick is more reliable in my experience.
You can use silica desiccant in a bag for much much better results than rice. You typically find small packets in shoeboxes, etc. (No, I am not encouraging you to take the packets out of all the shoeboxes at wal-mart. But if you did, you'd confuse the hell out of the security personnel if they watched you on camera =P) You can refresh the desiccant pebbles by heating your oven to about 300 and then turning it off & leaving the packets on a cookie sheet inside. This will purge the moisture from them and re-activate them.
eallan said:
Shocking suggestion but how about being honest and paying for repairs and your mistake.
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I used to be honest like you, but then I took a $50,000 medical bill to the knee.
I dropped my HTC One in the toilet, and it's not working at all. Can anyone help?
It was in the toilet for a second or two. I then took it out immediately and turned it off, wiped off any excess water, and left it in a bowl of rice, rotating it every few hours, for 48 hours. I have tried to turn it on this morning, but have had no luck. The screen is just blank, and the phone does not react when I put the charger in. The led green light doesn't come on to say it's charging, and neither a laptop of computer are recognising it when I plug it in. Does anyone have any idea what's wrong with it, or is it just completely dead? It's a new phone on contract, and I really can't afford to get a new phone. Or does anyone have any idea how much it would cost to repair it?
Any advice or tips would be really appreciated!
Thanks
thebrightpink said:
It was in the toilet for a second or two. I then took it out immediately and turned it off, wiped off any excess water, and left it in a bowl of rice, rotating it every few hours, for 48 hours. I have tried to turn it on this morning, but have had no luck. The screen is just blank, and the phone does not react when I put the charger in. The led green light doesn't come on to say it's charging, and neither a laptop of computer are recognising it when I plug it in. Does anyone have any idea what's wrong with it, or is it just completely dead? It's a new phone on contract, and I really can't afford to get a new phone. Or does anyone have any idea how much it would cost to repair it?
Any advice or tips would be really appreciated!
Thanks
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I have been working for a sub that repairs phones for AT&T for several years. Water damaged phones do not get repaired as there is no way to get all the water and the contaminates that it migrates to the PCB out from under all the parts and connectors. If the Rice or other suggestions did not work then the phone is history and must be replaced at your cost if you don't have insurance. If you have insurance just be honest pay the deductible and get the refurb the will give you.
Thats your only options.
The ones water Indicator is actually inside the flash lens. Look next to the camera lens and see if that's a pinkish color or a off white- yellowish. Pink is water. There's also a small one inside the Sim slot that you can't really access or see. Good luck
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Won't charge past 80%

I was given a RAZR today. I Was told it reboots sometimes (which I have yet to see) but it won't charge past 80%. Anyone ever seen something like this?? I'm totally new to this phone. Any help/insight would awesome!!
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Are you trying og moto charger or any other brand charger
Please hit that thanks button if i helped ya
Actually I just fixed its issues. I dont what was up with the charging, but after just charging and turning the power back on and off it reached 100%. It was very strange, started at 60 turned the phone on it said 70 turned it off, let charge stayed at 80 turned back on its said fully charged. Took it of the charger played around on it for a while and the whole charging process seems to have evened out when off or on now.
Also figured out the random shut offs he was experiencing, dropped it on the carpet (luckily) accidentally. It shut off. Started to test how much impact was needed to get it to do it again. Smacked it up against my hand, it shut off. Tested that a few times, every time I was pretty much successful lol. Took the phone apart messed with the battery connection a little. Put it back together, gave it a few extra hard smacks against my hand no random shut offs anymore lol.
Now I got a fully working RAZR for free lol. Gonna rock this instead of my galaxy nexus for a little while now I think. I've never owned a Motorola android before.
One plus, I've already noticed is the sound quality is dramatically better than my gnexus.
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Lucky fella!
Sound quality of all Nexuses suck.
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