Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
I'm using old charges at home and in the office and it did seems slow but had not heard of rapid charge. Will the phone indicate this rapid charge mode? If not, is it real?
I'm getting slow charging even on the stock HTC charger. Not sure how I can enable this rapid charge cause 4+ hours from 0-1% to full is a bit ridiculous.
use orginal charger is best , maybe it has some relationship with your battery life
If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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flooty333 said:
Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
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Try to change your phone
c5satellite2 said:
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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i've done exactly this, and damned if the One still refuses to draw more than ~500 ma off of anything but the 2.1 A wallwart it came with (i don't have any others to try with). i'm about to dig out an old inverter to see if that will actually work. wish i'd paid more attention to my EE dad when i lived at home; i've gotten a serious crash course in this stuff while trying to get my One to charge in my car, when it's on.
edit: so i got my old inverter out, and spent about 15 minutes testing. i used the 2.0A adapter that came with my Nexus 7 to test, as well as the 3.1A Mediabridge adapter i got here. my phone was at about 45% when i started testing. unplugged, Battery Monitor Widget reported a drain of anywhere between 500ma and 650ma (running Ingress, wifi on). plugged in to the Mediabridge adapter showed, at best, a drain of 50ma. the Nexus adapter plugged in to my inverter charged at a fairly consistent ~120ma. i didn't touch my phone the entire time.
i left my Nexus 7 at work so i can't use it to repeat the test, but i will do so tomorrow. the cable i'm using is this one. i'm not crazy about having a ridiculous DC-AC inverter in my car for my phone, but if that's what i have to do so it can be used and not drain, then so be it. admittedly, i don't really understand these things enough to explain these variations, but i plan on learning ASAP. perhaps somebody else can shed some light on why the device charges different, and how it identifies an AC-USB adapter vs a DC-USB adapter.
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If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
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Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
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Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
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Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
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I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
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Same here, 2a Nexus 7 brick with a long Logitech USB cable, much faster than stock (and longer)
Harbinger1080 said:
Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
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I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
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I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
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My next car will too, because I can only imagine that power requirements for these devices is going to increase.
That said, I think I have a winner, and instead of retyping my posts, I'll just link to that thread instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41797839&postcount=6
Since the snap Dragon 600 has fast charging capabilities, why didn't HTC Include it in the kernel??? I've noticed my 2500 mAh note battery charges faster than my 2300 MAH HTC one
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The beast? I got mine but haven't powered it up yet for charging purposes. There is no light indicator that tells you when its done.
Got mine yesterday and I charged via AC and it took about 3 hours to complete. After letting it drain over night after 8 hours of heavy usage, I'm charging via USB and it's taking forever. With it on and after 2 hours, it was only at 15%. Now turned it off and it's been 3 hours and it looks like 75%. BTW, press the power button once and the screen will show the batter gauge.
you should charge it while turned on and for 6 hours or more for 4-5 cycles. Let it go down to 5% for those 4-5 cycles. Do not let it turn off from lack of power.
That is from instructions I received from a third party battery which had these detailed instruction to maximize capacity. I am sure you will get 1000 different ways but that is what I use and have always had good battery life.
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The beast? I got mine but haven't powered it up yet for charging purposes. There is no light indicator that tells you when its done.
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While powered off, you can hit the volume button to get a visual on the batter status.
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This thing pretty much requires the cable that came with it to charge at full speed. Older MicroUSB cables charge at a much slower rate and are recognized as USB devices when plugged in. It must be because of the higher capacity battery. When you have the right cable plugged in, though, it charges pretty fast.
I'm noticing that even using the wall charger and the USB cable it came with, it's taking about an hour for the Note to charge only 15%. Anyone else noticing this? Is it normal that the first batch of charges takes this long (at that rate it would take 6+ hours to charge from 0-100%)?
My note charges very fast when I use the ac adapter and super slow when I use the us from my computer. About 1.5 hours on the ac and more than 3 hours on my pc's us
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Its always a good idea to charge using the AC wall adapter. The USB port on a computer usually supplies ~.5A @ 5v to charge the phone, the included Samsung wall charger supplies double that with 1.0A @ 5v. That is the reason you see such a big difference in your charging times.
(Some computers now supply more than .5A through USB, but .5A is most common)
USB3.0 can supply 5.0v @ 950mA to charge, but the kernel isn't set up to take advantage of this, I'll see if I can change that (it would only affect charging while booted)
Just shy of the AC adapter for those of us with USB3 ports
ulkesh said:
I'm noticing that even using the wall charger and the USB cable it came with, it's taking about an hour for the Note to charge only 15%. Anyone else noticing this? Is it normal that the first batch of charges takes this long (at that rate it would take 6+ hours to charge from 0-100%)?
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same here..
Da_G said:
USB3.0 can supply 5.0v @ 950mA to charge, but the kernel isn't set up to take advantage of this, I'll see if I can change that (it would only affect charging while booted)
Just shy of the AC adapter for those of us with USB3 ports
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I was excited reading this because my new laptop has a 3.0 port. However, I then remembered that my power brick for my laptop is kick ass and has a USB port that charges devices at 1A anyways. Haha.
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So I got it down to 5% and then I plugged it in at around 8pm and at 11pm it was at 100%. Not bad, not great but seems about right. Now my question is I see a notification that battery is fully charged and to unplug charger but Im going to bed soon and am going to leave it plugged over night. Is this risking the battery in any way?
ygong said:
same here..
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Same here rooted on on demand cpu governor.
Da_G said:
USB3.0 can supply 5.0v @ 950mA to charge, but the kernel isn't set up to take advantage of this, I'll see if I can change that (it would only affect charging while booted)
Just shy of the AC adapter for those of us with USB3 ports
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That would be the only use for my USB3.0 ports so far. Have yet to even need to utilize it.
The charger that comes with the Note can charge the battery in 3hours via ac. I wouldn't suggest to charge via usb, just because it's way too slow. Im using my playbook charger to charge my Note, Galaxy Nexus , and my bb 9900. This charger is 1.8a, it nearly charges 2x faster than the regular 1a that comes with most phones. Same thing for my car charger 2a, i even use my ipad charger to charge my iphone 4s and it's way faster!! Use more powerful chargers... Not more than 2a or your device might melt down!!
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The charger that comes with the Note can charge the battery in 3hours via ac. I wouldn't suggest to charge via usb, just because it's way too slow. Im using my playbook charger to charge my Note, Galaxy Nexus , and my bb 9900. This charger is 1.8a, it nearly charges 2x faster than the regular 1a that comes with most phones. Same thing for my car charger 2a, i even use my ipad charger to charge my iphone 4s and it's way faster!! Use more powerful chargers... Not more than 2a or your device might melt down!!
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That's weird. I was under the impression that GS Note only accepts 1.0A of power. Well at least that's what it saids at the back of the phone. I've got an iPad charger that draws out 2.1A, maybe I should give that a try.
I just posted this in my other thread Information on charging the note, but that thread is really lengthy and I thought this was worth mentioning in its own thread for anyone who might be looking for a good car charger, but doesn't want to read 8 pages of other information.
I had been looking for good one, and started with the motorola charger that I've seen recommended a few times. It's cheap, nicely made, and does have the data pins shorted, but for me, it didn't meet my needs because when using GPS in the car. With the screen on, the phone actually discharged and did not charge. It discharged at about 6% per hour. This is not surprising because when measured, it does not put out the max current that the note can accept (it puts out about 850mA of charging current via my measurements).This charger, on the other hand, puts out the max charging current your note can take (1000mA). I have verified this. When using GPS with the screen on, on my note at least, it actually charges the phone at a rate of ~3%/hour instead of discharging. It will even charge the phone if you are using GPS + screen on + also streaming music (ie pandora). That 150mA difference may not seem like much, but for me, it's the difference between discharging or actually charging the phone while using GPS.
A couple of notes... this charger does not come with a cable, so you'll need a generic usb type a to mirco usb cable. Nothing special is needed in the cable... you can get a "charge only" or a data version, any cable will be fine. Amazon has some very inexpensive ones with low shipping costs if you search. There are two ports on the charger, clearly marked on the charger itself, a 1A port and a 2A port. The 2A port will NOT charge your note at the AC charge rate as the data pins are not shorted -- it will charge at 500mA, and your phone WILL discharge instead of charge if you are using this port with GPS, etc. So ignore the 2A port unless you have an iDevice you want to charge with it. The 1A port, however, WILL charge your note at the AC charge rate, and DOES put out the rated 1A. This is the port you want to be using for your Note.
So, if anyone is looking for a good charger for the car, that's it. The only negative thing I have to say about it (so far) is that it is a little bit wobbly once seated in the cigarette lighter. Not enough to come out or cause any problems or anything, but enough to be annoying (to me). Nothing a little electrical tape (or any tape) can't fix quickly and easily, though, if it bothers you enough.
pj_rage said:
I just posted this in my other thread Information on charging the note, but that thread is really lengthy and I thought this was worth mentioning in its own thread for anyone who might be looking for a good car charger, but doesn't want to read 8 pages of other information.
I had been looking for good one, and started with the motorola charger that I've seen recommended a few times. It's cheap, nicely made, and does have the data pins shorted, but for me, it didn't meet my needs because when using GPS in the car. With the screen on, the phone actually discharged and did not charge. It discharged at about 6% per hour. This is not surprising because when measured, it does not put out the max current that the note can accept (it puts out about 850mA of charging current via my measurements).This charger, on the other hand, puts out the max charging current your note can take (1000mA). I have verified this. When using GPS with the screen on, on my note at least, it actually charges the phone at a rate of ~3%/hour instead of discharging. It will even charge the phone if you are using GPS + screen on + also streaming music (ie pandora). That 150mA difference may not seem like much, but for me, it's the difference between discharging or actually charging the phone while using GPS.
A couple of notes... this charger does not come with a cable, so you'll need a generic usb type a to mirco usb cable. Nothing special is needed in the cable... you can get a "charge only" or a data version, any cable will be fine. Amazon has some very inexpensive ones with low shipping costs if you search. There are two ports on the charger, clearly marked on the charger itself, a 1A port and a 2A port. The 2A port will NOT charge your note at the AC charge rate as the data pins are not shorted -- it will charge at 500mA, and your phone WILL discharge instead of charge if you are using this port with GPS, etc. So ignore the 2A port unless you have an iDevice you want to charge with it. The 1A port, however, WILL charge your note at the AC charge rate, and DOES put out the rated 1A. This is the port you want to be using for your Note.
So, if anyone is looking for a good charger for the car, that's it. The only negative thing I have to say about it (so far) is that it is a little bit wobbly once seated in the cigarette lighter. Not enough to come out or cause any problems or anything, but enough to be annoying (to me). Nothing a little electrical tape (or any tape) can't fix quickly and easily, though, if it bothers you enough.
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i purchased the car dock made specifically for this phone from samsung and it is awesome. phone snaps right into place, dock has a connector built in and comes with a charger. Suction cup has never fell off the window and the whole thing is very sturdy. the note looks awesome mounted in the truck above the in dash navigation and works great with ford sync
Personally I like the Motorola Chargers as they have a nice wound cord, although they only charge one device.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehicle-Adapter-micro-USB-Charger/dp/B000S5Q9CA
khaytsus said:
Personally I like the Motorola Chargers as they have a nice wound cord, although they only charge one device.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehicle-Adapter-micro-USB-Charger/dp/B000S5Q9CA
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That is the other charger I was talking about that is not nearly as good as the one I'm suggesting. With that charger, if you use GPS while the screen is on, your battery will discharge instead of charge. Even without GPS or the screen on, in the best case scenario, it will still charge slower than the one I've recommended. If you're OK with that, then yes I suppose it's an OK charger. It's cheap, looks pretty cool, and seems well built. But for my needs for a charger, I need a) the fastest charger available, and b) for a car charger, I need one that lets me use the GPS on my phone without losing battery life. That's why I searched and found the one I'm recommending.
I personally hate the wound cord because it puts tension on the phone if you try to use it beyond the wound range (which I almost always seem to do), but that's a totally personal preference. The cord is always fighting me when I'm typing on my phone while driving (Not that I do that )
pj_rage said:
That is the other charger I was talking about that is not nearly as good as the one I'm suggesting. With that charger, if you use GPS while the screen is on, your battery will discharge instead of charge. Even without GPS or the screen on, in the best case scenario, it will still charge slower than the one I've recommended. If you're OK with that, then yes I suppose it's an OK charger. It's cheap, looks pretty cool, and seems well built. But for my needs for a charger, I need a) the fastest charger available, and b) for a car charger, I need one that lets me use the GPS on my phone without losing battery life. That's why I searched and found the one I'm recommending.
I personally hate the wound cord because it puts tension on the phone if you try to use it beyond the wound range (which I almost always seem to do), but that's a totally personal preference. The cord is always fighting me when I'm typing on my phone while driving (Not that I do that )
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WHAT? Nonsense. First off, the phone is not going to draw more than 1A, and that is a 1A charger. Second, with the big screen on this thing at high power with GPS it's not too surprising if it just maintains its current charge, but in my week of owning my Note I know it does charge while it's on it, and my Nexus One charged on it just fine.
And the cord is very long, not sure where you're plugging your phone in..
OP said he tested the Motorola charger and it only put out 850mA, not 1A. Another poster in a different thread mentioned that his phone still discharged while using that specific car charger as well. So with heavy use it looks like it is possible for the phone to still discharge with the Motorola charger.
Thanks for the info. Had a Verizon car charger for my defunct droid razr and wasn't giving out enough juice to keep the Note running. Heck, it wasn't even able to keep the droid running.
Will look into the ones mentioned here.
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WHAT? Nonsense. First off, the phone is not going to draw more than 1A, and that is a 1A charger. Second, with the big screen on this thing at high power with GPS it's not too surprising if it just maintains its current charge, but in my week of owning my Note I know it does charge while it's on it, and my Nexus One charged on it just fine.
And the cord is very long, not sure where you're plugging your phone in..
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I'm not saying the the phone is drawing more than 1A. I'm saying that the motorola charger does not provide the full 950mA it claims (only provides 850mA), and this one I'm recommeding DOES put out the full 1A it claims. Either way, though, there's one thing I know for sure: the one I've recommended above charges faster than the motorola one, and allows your phone to charge in some scenarios where the motorola one does not. It is a better charger, from the aspect of actually charging the phone. The motorola charger might be fine for a lot of people. 850mA is still a good rate of charge, but unfortunately is just shy of being able to maintain or actually increase the state of charge of your note's battery under a common (for a lot of people) scenario in the car -- using the GPS with the screen on. If, however, the motorola charger is working perfectly for you, that's great. I don't care if you buy the other charger or not, I have no affiliation with the company or amazon or anything, I'm just providing the data so everyone can make an informed decision.
The wound cord thing is totally personal preference, I'm not gonna argue that one way or another.
khaytsus said:
Personally I like the Motorola Chargers as they have a nice wound cord, although they only charge one device.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehicle-Adapter-micro-USB-Charger/dp/B000S5Q9CA
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Yes, I use this one...for making sure my Note is charged whilst using the Note's GPS on my motorcycle.
Works great!!
Since I already have a power inverter I'm going to get the Blackberry Premium 1.8A charger for my note. Even though I carry 2 extra OEM batteries I still need all the power I can get.
just_visiting said:
Since I already have a power inverter I'm going to get the Blackberry Premium 1.8A charger for my note. Even though I carry 2 extra OEM batteries I still need all the power I can get.
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Just FYI I cannot confirm that this charger has the data lines shorted, so you may not charge at the full ac charge rate. Just because it says 1.8A doesn't mean anything. If it does not short the data lines, it will charge at 500mA (half the rate of the OEM AC charger), whether it's rated at 1A, 1.8A, or 1,000,000A.. Sorry if you already knew this, I just don't want any more people getting confused thinking that as long as the charger says it's rated at 1A+ that they will be charging at the full 1A. This is not the case with our Notes (or most/all? Samsung phones). No charger can or will charge faster than your OEM charger, unless your OEM charger is defective. The speed can only be matched, not exceeded.
Here's a scenario using the Motorola charger that is baffling me. I agree with the OP...using my Note with GPS and playing mp3 music at the same time does discharge the oem battery at a slow rate. But if I follow the same scenario, but use a cheap Hyperion 2600mah battery in place of the Samsung oem battery, it actually charges during use! Not fast, only about 3% an hour, but that beats a discharge situation! Why is this?
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Great informative post OP! Thanks! I was actually looking into this yesterday and your post is exactly correct. I currently have two Motorola chargers and yup, the Note discharges when using the GPS. I was looking into a new charger and ordered the exact same one you mentioned (in white).
What is surprising to me though is how you mentioned the 2A plug will not output the proper amp, so I have to use the 1A port instead? Do you know why they made it this way? It is just weird how they designed it.
Thanks!
pj_rage said:
I just posted this in my other thread Information on charging the note, but that thread is really lengthy and I thought this was worth mentioning in its own thread for anyone who might be looking for a good car charger, but doesn't want to read 8 pages of other information.
I had been looking for good one, and started with the motorola charger that I've seen recommended a few times. It's cheap, nicely made, and does have the data pins shorted, but for me, it didn't meet my needs because when using GPS in the car. With the screen on, the phone actually discharged and did not charge. It discharged at about 6% per hour. This is not surprising because when measured, it does not put out the max current that the note can accept (it puts out about 850mA of charging current via my measurements).This charger, on the other hand, puts out the max charging current your note can take (1000mA). I have verified this. When using GPS with the screen on, on my note at least, it actually charges the phone at a rate of ~3%/hour instead of discharging. It will even charge the phone if you are using GPS + screen on + also streaming music (ie pandora). That 150mA difference may not seem like much, but for me, it's the difference between discharging or actually charging the phone while using GPS.
A couple of notes... this charger does not come with a cable, so you'll need a generic usb type a to mirco usb cable. Nothing special is needed in the cable... you can get a "charge only" or a data version, any cable will be fine. Amazon has some very inexpensive ones with low shipping costs if you search. There are two ports on the charger, clearly marked on the charger itself, a 1A port and a 2A port. The 2A port will NOT charge your note at the AC charge rate as the data pins are not shorted -- it will charge at 500mA, and your phone WILL discharge instead of charge if you are using this port with GPS, etc. So ignore the 2A port unless you have an iDevice you want to charge with it. The 1A port, however, WILL charge your note at the AC charge rate, and DOES put out the rated 1A. This is the port you want to be using for your Note.
So, if anyone is looking for a good charger for the car, that's it. The only negative thing I have to say about it (so far) is that it is a little bit wobbly once seated in the cigarette lighter. Not enough to come out or cause any problems or anything, but enough to be annoying (to me). Nothing a little electrical tape (or any tape) can't fix quickly and easily, though, if it bothers you enough.
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Just FYI I cannot confirm that this charger has the data lines shorted, so you may not charge at the full ac charge rate. Just because it says 1.8A doesn't mean anything. If it does not short the data lines, it will charge at 500mA (half the rate of the OEM AC charger), whether it's rated at 1A, 1.8A, or 1,000,000A.. Sorry if you already knew this, I just don't want any more people getting confused thinking that as long as the charger says it's rated at 1A+ that they will be charging at the full 1A. This is not the case with our Notes (or most/all? Samsung phones). No charger can or will charge faster than your OEM charger, unless your OEM charger is defective. The speed can only be matched, not exceeded.
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Yes I already know this. I can always return the charger if it does not work properly. Also last night, I tested an OEM HTC charger that came with my older HTC Desire Z and it outputs exactly as the OEM Samsung Note charger. I used your command line in Terminal Emulator.
Got it today. Wow it charges fast.
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OK I was wrong it does not charge faster. It actually allowed my battery to drain at about 1% per 4 minutes, during driving. I DID NOT USE PORT 1A. Will try 1A tomorrow.
the AC charge rate as the data pins are not shorted -- it will charge at 500mA, and your phone WILL discharge instead of charge if you are using this port with GPS, etc. So ignore the 2A port unless you have an iDevice you want to charge with it. The 1A port, however, WILL charge your note at the AC charge rate, and DOES put out the rated 1A. This is the port you want to be using for your Note.
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Not shorted charger
StarLog said:
Got it today. Wow it charges fast.
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What did you get? The motorola one or the Blackberry? Link please.
Thanks for this. Will be ordering the PowerGen. Just got back from a trip to Chicago from Ohio and left with 100% and arrived with 70%. Figured the charger just wasnt putting out enough power.
Now I just need a good adjustable windshield mount that will accept my phone with a case on it!
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I just got this one: http://www.amazon.com/Satechi-Lighter-Converter-BlackBerry-Playbook/dp/B004X71HXU
It comes with a adapter that shorts the pins to enable rapid charge.
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Even with GPS running my battery is fully charged when driving to work. I ordered a couple extra adapters from the Satechi website to throw in my laptop bag to rapid charge over the USB 3.0 port and one for my wife's car. Now she can rapid charge her captivate with the high current car charger finally.
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Thanks I just bought this.
kimocal said:
I just got this one: http://www.amazon.com/Satechi-Lighter-Converter-BlackBerry-Playbook/dp/B004X71HXU
It comes with a adapter that shorts the pins to enable rapid charge.
Even with GPS running my battery is fully charged when driving to work. I ordered a couple extra adapters from the Satechi website to throw in my laptop bag to rapid charge over the USB 3.0 port and one for my wife's car. Now she can rapid charge her captivate with the high current car charger finally.
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keplenk said:
What did you get? The motorola one or the Blackberry? Link please.
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Sorry for the delay, I wanted to verify it. Look at previous post, edited.
Not 500ma charger
So my charger met with an untimely demise. I am unable to get my hands on a replacement one at the moment.
I am currently using my computer's USB port which as you will know doesn't give quite enough juice. I have seen a microusb charger with 5V and 2A. Will this do a job (and also not get rid of the message that i am drawing more juice than the battery is getting)?
I use the charger that came with my Evo 4g. It needs to sit overnight, but it charges to green.
milomak said:
So my charger met with an untimely demise. I am unable to get my hands on a replacement one at the moment.
I am currently using my computer's USB port which as you will know doesn't give quite enough juice. I have seen a microusb charger with 5V and 2A. Will this do a job (and also not get rid of the message that i am drawing more juice than the battery is getting)?
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No.
The reason for the strange shape USB lead HTC have is that it gives 9V and 1.7A - 5V isn't going to cut it, it will charge but ever so slowly and if you try to charge whilst using it you'll probably find it doesn't, it just discharges more slowly.
If I were to take an old wall wart I have here that is 9V and 2A and wire a standard micro USB cable to it, would that work to charge my flyer quickly? In other words is the strange connector necessary or just the 9V and 2A?
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bsoplinger said:
If I were to take an old wall wart I have here that is 9V and 2A and wire a standard micro USB cable to it, would that work to charge my flyer quickly? In other words is the strange connector necessary or just the 9V and 2A?
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NO, because the fast charge requires the special connector on the HTC power cord , a micro-usb will not allow the Flyer to draw the high current.
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NO, because the fast charge requires the special connector on the HTC power cord , a micro-usb will not allow the Flyer to draw the high current.
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so an adaptor with a usb slot and using the usb cable would work?
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so an adaptor with a usb slot and using the usb cable would work?
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If you're using the HTC-specific microUSB cable, the adaptor would have to provide the correct amount of power (9V and 1.7A). Most usb power adaptors do not provide the adequate amount. A little while back, I made the mistake of taking just my phone usb adaptor to charge everything on a trip out of the country for nearly two months. It worked great for everything except for my View. Even though I had the HTC-specific usb cable for the View, it was still like charging via a computer usb port. It would get the job done if I left it all day or all night, but it took forever to charge.
I really would try to track down an OEM charger. Even if you find a usb adaptor that puts out the right amount of power, it still might not provide the short amount of charging time that the OEM charger does. It should theoretically, but many users have had charging time woes when using anything but the OEM charger.
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NO, because the fast charge requires the special connector on the HTC power cord , a micro-usb will not allow the Flyer to draw the high current.
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No it doesn't. A member of my site took the OEM charger, wired a 90 degree micro USB port to it, charges at full speed.
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Volts and Amps - PowerFlask
From the posts on this subject it seems that the Powerflask 13000 mAh powerbank I bought today and which charges at 5.3 volt with a 1amp and 2.5 amp port won't properly charge my flyer?
Can I safely use the 2.5amp port or should I rather stick to the 1amp port.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Maffs,
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From the posts on this subject it seems that the Powerflask 13000 mAh powerbank I bought today and which charges at 5.3 volt with a 1amp and 2.5 amp port won't properly charge my flyer?
Can I safely use the 2.5amp port or should I rather stick to the 1amp port.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
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Folks on here have mentioned that the device (and other tablet/smartphone devices) will only draw the amount of current (amps) it needs. So using a charger with a higher amp rating is not a concern (in theory).
But I think others have debated this, and even made claims of higher volt/amp rated chargers damaging their devices (however anecdotal).
In any case, from the responses on this thread, it appears that any charger that doesn't have HTC's proprietary connector that they used for the Flyer, will charge the tablet very slowly. I just plugged my Flyer into a microUSB charger the other day (just got back from a trip, and my stock charger was still packed), and it charged extremely slowly. It was slower than I remembered it being. It was plugged in for maybe 4 hours, and only increased the charge by 10 or 15%.
PowerFlask Volts and Amps
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
I ran a quick test and connected the Flyer to the battery pack.
The flyer charged from 76% to 84% in 30 minutes . I realise that such a short charge isn't a proper test but it looks promising.
I used the 1amp port and will as you cautioned avoid the 2.5 amp port.
Maffs
When ever I drive, I have my phone hooked up to my Escort Red Line radar detector and my car's stereo via bluetooth (both). In order for me to use the radar detector effective, I need to have GPS and Blueooth enabled. This is a HUGE SUPER OMG battery drainer for my amaze. 20 minutes drive kills about 35% of the phone's power. My radar detector offers a slot to charge my phone BUT it still drains, not enough juice flowing in. Someone said it is because it's probably a .5amp.
So I am running a extension from the 12v lighter that's in the trunk to the front of my car. Amazon has a generic 2.1amp for 3 bucks.
http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Heavy...121&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+amaze+car+charger+amp
But on ebay, I found the original HTC car charger for 15 bucks which is a 1amp.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Amaze-4...918506?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27c867022a
What do you guys recommend? My logic says go for the 2.1amp, the phone will draw as much as it needs from it.
The 1amp.
Anything higher you'll damage the phone or the battery.
A wall plug power supply or a usb supply is 5.0v/1amp.
The 2.1 amp is probably 1 amp per port. Although it does not seem to specify.
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What do you guys recommend? My logic says go for the 2.1amp, the phone will draw as much as it needs from it.
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Right!:good:
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The 1amp.
Anything higher you'll damage the phone or the battery.
A wall plug power supply or a usb supply is 5.0v/1amp.
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That means a higher capacity battery (more current NOT MORE VOLTAGE) will damage the phone?!!!!
Totally wrong!
A higher current will not damage the phone. A higher voltage will do it!
Please do not mix the current with voltage!
Voltage is same 5 Volts (±5%) for these “USB like” applications (1A or 2.1A power supply our case )They use USB socket/connector but usually only pin 1 and 4 (+ and-)
Regular computer USB port can supply max 0.5-0.9 A depending on version.
For battery charging devices the current can go to 5A.
Higher voltage will trip a warning window telling you to disconnect and use official HTC equipment.
The phone monitors input voltage to protect the equipment.
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That means a higher capacity battery (more current NOT MORE VOLTAGE) will damage the phone?!!!!
Totally wrong!
A higher current will not damage the phone. A higher voltage will do it!
Please do not mix the current with voltage!
Voltage is same 5 Volts (±5%) for these “USB like” applications (1A or 2.1A power supply our case )They use USB socket/connector but usually only pin 1 and 4 (+ and-)
Regular computer USB port can supply max 0.5-0.9 A depending on version.
For battery charging devices the current can go to 5A.
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and to add to that... unless you take the charger apart and short pins 2 and 3, it will only ever draw 500mA, as it assumes that it is hooked up to a regular powered USB port... I have bought multiple car charger usb adapters, and I have taken all of them apart and soldered the 2nd and 3rd pins together... otherwise charge time = forever, and sometimes it won't even charge if you have wifi or data/gps/bluetooth all going at once...
I recently got an Amaze and am generally happy with it. The biggest problem I have right now is finding the right car charger for it because the car charger I previously used (a 1A monoprice car charger) doesn't give it enough charge. I have been reading through the forums and some has been saying that if the charger is not working properly, it will recognize it as charging via USB rather than AC. In my case, the phone seems to be reading it as charging through AC, but there still doesn't seem to be enough current going through it. The phone will only charge if NOTHING is going on (i.e. screen's off, no GPS, etc.). I've been using CoPilot GPS and it draws the battery like crazy. Anyone has any idea as to which car charger would work properly with the Amaze such that I'll be able to charge (or at least maintain the charge) while using it as a GPS? Do I need to go up to a 2.1A charger?
I would look for a 4-5 star rated 2.1a car charger on Amazon.
Just read through the comments and feedback and you'll find one that's right for you.
I prefer the USB charger base itself and then using the OEM cable that came with the Amaze.
It seems to charge faster with that cable, at least to me anyway.
Remember though if it's rated 2.1a but has two USB slots that 2.1a will be cut in half if used to charge two different devices.
Hope this helps.
I couldve sworn we talked about this months ago. Let me see if I can find the thread.
nguyendqh said:
I would look for a 4-5 star rated 2.1a car charger on Amazon.
Just read through the comments and feedback and you'll find one that's right for you.
I prefer the USB charger base itself and then using the OEM cable that came with the Amaze.
It seems to charge faster with that cable, at least to me anyway.
Remember though if it's rated 2.1a but has two USB slots that 2.1a will be cut in half if used to charge two different devices.
Hope this helps.
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you won't get the full 2.1a unless you usee a charge only cable or modify the charger as I stated above...
I ended up getting a 2.1A car charger and a USB charge only cable, and it's working perfectly. When I have the screen on full brightness and doing navigation with Co-Pilot GPS, my phone's no longer losing charge and is actually charging. The combo also works with my tablet as well.
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and to add to that... unless you take the charger apart and short pins 2 and 3, it will only ever draw 500mA, as it assumes that it is hooked up to a regular powered USB port... I have bought multiple car charger usb adapters, and I have taken all of them apart and soldered the 2nd and 3rd pins together... otherwise charge time = forever, and sometimes it won't even charge if you have wifi or data/gps/bluetooth all going at once...
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This is damn helpful! So THAT is why when driving and using gps or whatnot I would always lose more battery even on charger.. So basically I can just solder the middle 2 pins together to trick it into thinking it is being powered like a home charger? No chance it will hurt anything I assume?
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This is damn helpful! So THAT is why when driving and using gps or whatnot I would always lose more battery even on charger.. So basically I can just solder the middle 2 pins together to trick it into thinking it is being powered like a home charger? No chance it will hurt anything I assume?
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I have done this to every single one of my USB car chargers... not a single issue...
Hi everyone,
I have just swapped my Galaxy S3 to a HTC One X+ because I couldn't stand Samsung's Touchwiz, and I love Sense 5. The downside is the charging times on this new phone are pretty laughable!
Now I know different cables can give different currents consistently, but I have three cables (one at work, one in car, one at home) that would all deliver 1000mA to my GS3 and I could go from 10% to 100% in about 90 minutes, about 1% per minute, it was great! Battery life on this phone never degraded so I know 1000mA wasn't damaging at all (all GS3s can take a maximum of 1A).
I've now moved over to the HOX+ and it's taking absolutely forever to charge, between 3-4 hours to charge from low. I simply can't wait this long, it's beyond a joke :crying: I've checked Better Battery Stats and my battery usage is about the same as my GS3 when unplugged (about 4-5% per hour) which is fine, so why the difference in charging times?
On my GS3 I had an app which showed me charging current that was specific to GS3s and was very reliable, but I can't seem to find a reliable app for the HOX+, the one I have is Battery Monitor Widget and it reckons I'm charging @ 330mA and I'm currently at 22%, that can't be right can it?
Here is what my phone is says when charging "Charging (USB)".
In the past hour it's done about 20%.
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Here is what my phone is says when charging "Charging (USB)".
In the past hour it's done about 20%.
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Erm thats the issue. When you charge using the AC (By cable to the electric socket) it says "Charging(AC)" . This usually takes me from 10-100% in about 90 minutes with the HOX+.
Somehow either you are connecting it to a usb hub (laptop or a computer) which is pretty slow compared to the AC, or your phone is mixing up the AC and USB currents. So an advice, use an electric socket and make sure it says "AC" in the power tab. IF so, check the charging time you should find it similar to that of Samsung.
I also think usb 3.0 is faster in charging than 2.0 ? If you are on a new pc with a new motherboard you should find your sockets 3.0, so don't use a usb hub especially if it says usb 2.0 since it will be pretty slow.
Hi Gand0ur, thanks for the advice.
I should have said before; I never charge via a computer/laptop/USB hub. Only directly into the wall. It is an aftermarket charger but it's a good quality one as it charged my GS3 @ 1A and also my old Sensation charged in about 90 mins.
I've just tried a different cable and still the same outcome. I'll try another wall plug when I get home tonight
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Hi Gand0ur, thanks for the advice.
I should have said before; I never charge via a computer/laptop/USB hub. Only directly into the wall. It is an aftermarket charger but it's a good quality one as it charged my GS3 @ 1A and also my old Sensation charged in about 90 mins.
I've just tried a different cable and still the same outcome. I'll try another wall plug when I get home tonight
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Sorry.. I am kinda sleepy so I posted without saying any thing. Anyway I wanted to post a pic of the text on ny stock charger. Says the following : output: 5v ~ 1A .
I will post a picture when I wake up in a couple of hours.
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Sorry.. I am kinda sleepy so I posted without saying any thing. Anyway I wanted to post a pic of the text on ny stock charger. Says the following : output: 5v ~ 1A .
I will post a picture when I wake up in a couple of hours.
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No problem! The charger I am currently using is a 5V/2A (for tablets) and has worked fine for every phone previously, giving 1A current.
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Hi Gand0ur, thanks for the advice.
I should have said before; I never charge via a computer/laptop/USB hub. Only directly into the wall. It is an aftermarket charger but it's a good quality one as it charged my GS3 @ 1A and also my old Sensation charged in about 90 mins.
I've just tried a different cable and still the same outcome. I'll try another wall plug when I get home tonight
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dont ever use after market charger even though it is for tablet or note samsung...i tried and it is prety damn slow...
so just use your htc/stock charger...it will be fast charge...2hr the most maybe less...
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dont ever use after market charger even though it is for tablet or note samsung...i tried and it is prety damn slow....
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That isn't necessarily true. This charger has been the fastest thing to ever charge my HTC Sensation and GS3, and come to think of it my Nexus 7 charges faster with this charger too. As I said earlier, I had an app on the GS3 which showed it was outputting 1000mA (maximum the GS3 allows) and it would charge that phone in around 90 mins. According to the HOX+ app I have I'm only getting 330mA. Whilst I agree that poorer after-market chargers often give dubious results I'm confident that this isn't the charger's fault.
I'll try the a HTC charger when I get home, but the other night I had it on charge with the HTC charger and it didn't seem to move very quickly.
I'll just say what I know from experience with my HOX+: it only seems to be charging in a normal (and pretty fast) way with the original, from the box, charger.
I tried charging it with the charger from a Desire Z - slow; charger from Desire S - slow; a Nokia charger - slow.
I also noticed that while the Desire S or Z can get charged while being used, when using a car charger (a Nokia one), the HOX+ seems to be using more current, and it ultimately dies. It happened this summer, so this might be an issue.
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I'll just say what I know from experience with my HOX+: it only seems to be charging in a normal (and pretty fast) way with the original, from the box, charger.
I tried charging it with the charger from a Desire Z - slow; charger from Desire S - slow; a Nokia charger - slow.
I also noticed that while the Desire S or Z can get charged while being used, when using a car charger (a Nokia one), the HOX+ seems to be using more current, and it ultimately dies. It happened this summer, so this might be an issue.
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I think you're right! I tried my wife's HTC One S charger last night (because the HOX+ doesn't come with one) and it changed to Charging (AC) for the first time. I have to say this is a massive let down for me, my car charger saved me so many times with my GS3 (for example I drove to Scotland and used GPS all the way, and the phone still charged right up at the same time) I'm not sure I can handle it not being able to cope with other chargers.
I find this extremely frustrating Is there not a hack to get around this with root?
I'm not sure about the Samsung, but the HTC will only go into the fast/AC Charging mode when it see the Data+ and Date- signals shorted on the USB port. This can be designed into the charger, such as the factory HTC wall charger, or you can buy "charging only" cables and then use any USB charger to get your HTC to go into AC charging mode. These charging only cables are tough to find, but amazon does sell them. Keep in mind that the charging only cables will not transfer data at Data+ and Data- are shorted. Once you are in AC charging mode, the phone takes over and determines how fast to charge. At low battery levels (less than 80% or so), the charging rate can be as high as 1000ma/h or the maximum the charger is rated to deliver. If the charger is rated to deliver more than 1000 ma/hr, the most your phone will draw is 1000 ma/hr.
Now there is another variable, the cable itself. Cheap cables sometimes have too much resistance to pass 1000ma/hr and can be the problem as well.
One other issue is the number of knock off chargers and cables out there. Beware of e_ay. You may not be getting what you think you are.
One final note, Apple designs the ipod to look for the Data+ and Data- signals to not be shorted (opposite of HTC and most android manufacturers). So chargers that are designed to charge Apple devices will need the Charging Only cables to charge android devices in the AC charging mode.
So if I didn't confuse myself, hopefully this will answering some charging questions. I've researched this and have tested many chargers and cables.