HTC One - poor LTE reception - T-Mobile HTC One (M7)

I very much wanted to love this phone. Having been an HTC user for the longest time, I begrudgingly switched to a Note 2 last year. Why "begrudgingly", you ask? I'm a bit superficial when it comes to my phones and I'm not a fan of the plastic bodies used by Samsung. The HTC One, as you know, has an amazing build quality and, when you hold the phone, you get a sense of the premium materials used in its construction. The screen clarity is tops and the speakers sound quite good. I love nearly everything about this phone but I just ordered a plastic-laden Galaxy S4, due to issues with LTE reception one the One. Upon purchase, I noticed right away that this phone shows 1-2 fewer bars of LTE signal, everywhere, when compared to my Note 2. I figured it was just the graphical representation of signal strength that was off but then I noticed that the One spent far more time on HSPA than the note 2. Using G Net Track, I observed RSSI readings ~20dBm lower than my Note 2. These observations were made over time, with the phone stationary on my desk. The signal strength indicator and the RSSI readings confirmed that the HTC One I purchased suffers from poor LTE reception. I'm quite irritated that HTC missed with this device; I was very much hoping they would hit a home run with the One.
Has anyone else noticed LTE reception problems with their phone?

I have amazing 4g coverage I'm on tmobile I came from Verizon I am currently in south fl might be your area ? This might be a stretch but it feels like I have better 4g coverage on tmobile or it could just be that I love the phone
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SurrealNetworks said:
I very much wanted to love this phone. Having been an HTC user for the longest time, I begrudgingly switched to a Note 2 last year. Why "begrudgingly", you ask? I'm a bit superficial when it comes to my phones and I'm not a fan of the plastic bodies used by Samsung. The HTC One, as you know, has an amazing build quality and, when you hold the phone, you get a sense of the premium materials used in its construction. The screen clarity is tops and the speakers sound quite good. I love nearly everything about this phone but I just ordered a plastic-laden Galaxy S4, due to issues with LTE reception one the One. Upon purchase, I noticed right away that this phone shows 1-2 fewer bars of LTE signal, everywhere, when compared to my Note 2. I figured it was just the graphical representation of signal strength that was off but then I noticed that the One spent far more time on HSPA than the note 2. Using G Net Track, I observed RSSI readings ~20dBm lower than my Note 2. These observations were made over time, with the phone stationary on my desk. The signal strength indicator and the RSSI readings confirmed that the HTC One I purchased suffers from poor LTE reception. I'm quite irritated that HTC missed with this device; I was very much hoping they would hit a home run with the One.
Has anyone else noticed LTE reception problems with their phone?
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I have One, Nexus 4, iPhone 5, they all have the exact signal level at any given location. Unless you're blocking the antenna causing attenuation.
Also, you should be monitoring RSRP and RSRQ. Not RSSI if you're on LTE. Get SignalCheck Pro and do some testing.

When I moved I stopped in Kansas City (one of T-Mobile's LTE markets) and I had no problems with LTE reception.

Even with 2 bars on LTE. My speed is excellent.
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trashcan said:
Even with 2 bars on LTE. My speed is excellent.
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Have you ever seen full LTE signal on your One? In areas where my Note 2 had four bars, my One has only two. Maybe I just received a lemon and an exchange will remedy the issue.

soulr1985 said:
I have amazing 4g coverage I'm on tmobile I came from Verizon I am currently in south fl might be your area ? This might be a stretch but it feels like I have better 4g coverage on tmobile or it could just be that I love the phone
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The HSPA+ signal strength of my One appears to be equal to that of my Note 2.

I get full LTE bars in Santa Clara, CA
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I get full bars in Vegas when in the lte areas
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I'm a bit concerned as well about LTE signal strength. I'm on only a single signal bar 90% of the time. I've only seen up to 3 bars only once. My speeds seem okay though, I am hitting 30mb down with only the 1 signal bar. My main concern is battery drain due to the weak signal.
I get awesome HSPA signal though, full bars almost everywhere. I'm tempted to just turn LTE off as HSPA speed here is still awesome.
BTW, I am in the Phoenix/Tempe market.
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I'm a bit concerned as well about LTE signal strength. I'm on only a single signal bar 90% of the time. I've only seen up to 3 bars only once. My speeds seem okay though, I am hitting 30mb down with only the 1 signal bar. My main concern is battery drain due to the weak signal.
I get awesome HSPA signal though, full bars almost everywhere. I'm tempted to just turn LTE off as HSPA speed here is still awesome.
BTW, I am in the Phoenix/Tempe market.
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That's pretty much what I'm experiencing. I have a Galaxy S4 arriving tomorrow - I'll be sure to take networks measurements on both devices to compare performance of the two.

rschauby said:
I'm a bit concerned as well about LTE signal strength. I'm on only a single signal bar 90% of the time. I've only seen up to 3 bars only once. My speeds seem okay though, I am hitting 30mb down with only the 1 signal bar. My main concern is battery drain due to the weak signal.
I get awesome HSPA signal though, full bars almost everywhere. I'm tempted to just turn LTE off as HSPA speed here is still awesome.
BTW, I am in the Phoenix/Tempe market.
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Same market, same signal as you. I think it's our coverage area though as I watch signal when I'm driving around the valley a lot and it def hits 4 or 5 bars of lte....but only right up against the towers....regardless I get great speeds though
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I'm also in kansas City and my note 2 was picking far better lte I'd say than the One.

If when mine arrives here in Taipei it shows lower bars I will take it in personally to their HTC office here in Taipei and ***** about it. Will try same SIM card in different smartphones to show differences If needed but will need to test first.

I don't quite understand what standard is to be expected. Is anything less of 30mb down on a cell phone really that unacceptable? I suppose it's reasonable if you're using hotspot for a laptop, but are we just talking about apps downloading data?
It might be that HTC didn't do well with function over form with the One in terms of signal reception. But I guess this may be the sacrifice you'll have to make.
Have you guys run speed tests rather than judging by signal bars alone? I've found that although my One displays two bars at my gym for "4g", I get completely crap signal, and can barely send out a Google voice text.. I've yet to run a speed test to see what exactly I'm getting in terms of d/u speeds.
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I have just received my HTC One yesterday. LTE is limited where I am, but when I have reached an area where LTE was available, I had full bars on mine. This was in Cupertino, CA.

nexicon said:
I'm also in kansas City and my note 2 was picking far better lte I'd say than the One.
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That was my experience, going from a Note 2 to the One. I returned the One and picked up an S4 - much better LTE service. I did a side by side evaluation of LTE performance on the One vs the S4. Using the Speedtest.net app, I was consistently pulling 13Mbps using the One. I placed my SIM card into the S4 and consistently pulled 23Mbps. I switched the SIM back to the One and couldn't break 14Mbps. Yes, I selected the same server on both phones. Sadly, the One appears to have LTE issues.

I will be just happy when LTE actually goes live in my city. My HSPA+ speeds are really good. I just did a speedtest and go 18Mbps on my One and 13Mbps on my S4.

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That was my experience, going from a Note 2 to the One. I returned the One and picked up an S4 - much better LTE service. I did a side by side evaluation of LTE performance on the One vs the S4. Using the Speedtest.net app, I was consistently pulling 13Mbps using the One. I placed my SIM card into the S4 and consistently pulled 23Mbps. I switched the SIM back to the One and couldn't break 14Mbps. Yes, I selected the same server on both phones. Sadly, the One appears to have LTE issues.
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I'm assuming you are using a T-Mobile One, not a different one like the dev edition, and are on T-Mobile LTE?

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I'm assuming you are using a T-Mobile One, not a different one like the dev edition, and are on T-Mobile LTE?
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That is correct. Both phones were displaying "4g LTE" during the tests.

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Switching to at&t in a few days

Is the battery life good?
How is the 3g? Does it go in and out or stay connected
Don't do it. Unless you REAAAAAAAALLY want an Atrix for some reason.
OK so I'm guessing its bad?
I'm on da fence with this and the nexus s
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who are you switching from? does it have to be at&t ? My atrix battery isnt bad, but i despise at&t
I sometimes go from H+ --> E --> no signal at odd times here in Raleigh, NC...
It depends on your location !!! some area's are good for AT$T and some are really BAD !
I'd pick up a Galaxy S II personally, I am fairly sure it's coming to T-mobile, Verizon, and AT&T so if you have T-mo or Verizon I'd recommend that.
It really out classes the Atrix from top to bottom, the only thing it lacks are docks (worthless anyway), qHD (But the sAMOLED screen more than makes up for it) and Tegra 2..although Tegra 2 is actually quite limited compared to the Galaxy II's chipset.
Why so many AT&T haters? I've been with them since it was Cingular years ago and I don't see any issues that people don't have with other providers. I think we are all looking for perfect world scenarios and we just aren't quite there yet. As for the Atrix, love mine!
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I was with t-mobile till February 2011 and was sick of them because of the ****ty reception in San Diego in the area I live in. It was supposed to be "4G" but I was constantly on EDGE. I had friends on AT&T and they had great reception and on 3G faster or similar speeds as me on T-mobile with "4G". I switched and I am happy so far.
Try to find out if you have good reception in the area that you need it in (ask friends on AT&T etc.). T-mobile and AT&T can be quite spotty in coverage and reception.
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Why so many AT&T haters? I've been with them since it was Cingular years ago and I don't see any issues that people don't have with other providers. I think we are all looking for perfect world scenarios and we just aren't quite there yet. As for the Atrix, love mine!
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Verizon = Faster network (Only carrier with substantial LTE rollout already), larger coverage map, and unlimited data plans.
AT&T = Slower network, no LTE for at least another year, 2 years for smaller markets, capped data plans.
The choice is simple.
dco717 said:
Is the battery life good?
How is the 3g? Does it go in and out or stay connected
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The battery life is amazing. But as always, it will also depend on your personal usage of the phone. If you are running speedtests all day then the battery life will be crap, for example.
the 3G will entirely depend on AT&T's network in your area. Look it up online and you should have a better gauge on how their network works in your area. Entirely subjective. In my area, it is amazing and I have no complains. It has been stable for me and the few times it "goes out" is when I am in the mountains or somewhere with weak cell signal anyways.
I just switched from Verizon to ATT about 3 weeks ago. The only thing that I miss is the amazing data speeds on my thunderbolt. I have had no issues with ATT and the service is not that much different in my area. If they are alright in your area I don't see a reason not to go for it.
The Atrix is a great phone, compared to my thunderbolt there is no comparison. The battery on the atrix lasts around 4 times longer then the thunderbolt and is built a lot better. Its a lot faster as well.
I have Verizon now but it cost 178 for two phones and if I switch to at&t it will be 131.98 or T-Mobile it would be 139
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Reception?

I have seen in reviews about reception on the 3d. Can anyone with one reply with how the reception really is in day to day use
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Epic-ly wanting a new phone
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I have seen in reviews about reception on the 3d. Can anyone with one reply with how the reception really is in day to day use
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My data speeds are better and Call quality is good.
DDiaz007 said:
My data speeds are better and Call quality is good.
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+1 same experience
On my EVO 4G in my condo it always showed 5-6 bars With the 3d its currently showing 3-4 bars. Haven't noticed any difference in call quality though, and I talked to a few folks the other night that said it sounded clearer then my old phone.
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On my EVO 4G in my condo it always showed 5-6 bars With the 3d its currently showing 3-4 bars. Haven't noticed any difference in call quality though, and I talked to a few folks the other night that said it sounded clearer then my old phone.
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I'm noticing less bars as well
Well, I live in Alaska and there isn't a single Sprint store in the state... Even though they have coverage here, you can't even order a device here (normally, but I'm awesome and I can lol).
My EVO usually got 1-2 bars, around my house/work areas, more if I went into a downtown area with more Verizon coverage. My 3D gets 3-4 bars now in my house, and my bandwith test is increased by about 20% from the tests I've done so far.
TL;DR version:
I get much better signal, and better up/down speeds where I live.
This guy tested his e3d vs his e4g side by side. Seems like the e3d had a slight edge.
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/360306-signal-strength-analysis-evo-3d-evo-4g.html
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This guy tested his e3d vs his e4g side by side. Seems like the e3d had a slight edge.
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/360306-signal-strength-analysis-evo-3d-evo-4g.html
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Can't dispute hard facts... thanks for the link. I think it was engadget that said signal was weak, but I am too lazy to search it out.
shortbus182 said:
Can't dispute hard facts... thanks for the link. I think it was engadget that said signal was weak, but I am too lazy to search it out.
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Engadget also assumed that with the two phones being made by HTC and on Sprint that the bars corresponded to the actual same strength.
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Engadget also assumed that with the two phones being made by HTC and on Sprint that the bars corresponded to the actual same strength.
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My thoughts exactly.
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Its a world better than the NS4G
3g is horrible even after applying the fix listed in another thread.
Phone signal strength consistently is 1/2 that of my EVO....now, I haven't lost any calls BUT I am also not able to make calls in areas which had less than stellar signals where my wifes EVO will still make the call with no issue and show 2 bars while the 3D shows absolutely none.
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3g is horrible even after applying the fix listed in another thread.
Phone signal strength consistently is 1/2 that of my EVO....now, I haven't lost any calls BUT I am also not able to make calls in areas which had less than stellar signals where my wifes EVO will still make the call with no issue and show 2 bars while the 3D shows absolutely none.
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Haven't gotten the 3d yet, but I have seen this problem with my Evo 4g. Try to update your PRL, then update your Profile (In that order). See if that helps.
I'm getting almost the same bars as in my 4G or maybe 1 bar less, but I definitely think that call quality and data speeds (at least for me) are way better than my 4G. And also another thing I noticed is that I get better WiFi reception, now I get full bars in my house in places that my 4G use to get 1 to no bars!
Yeah yeah, its a shooter,we call it 3VO and I'm not afraid to use it...
I live in a fringe area where I always got either zero or 1 bar with the Evo 4G, but even with zero bars I could always hold a call, probably because these phones freely roam on Verizon towers too. Now with the 3D, I have to be honest: I think my Evo 4G was slightly better with reception just because I notice the 3D switching back and forth between Sprint and Verizon towers more often (roaming notification goes off more). If I had to quantify it, I'd say my old Evo 4G got maybe 10% to 15% better signal. But I expect that to improve via updates so I'm not too worried about it, especially since, well... it still works.
For the few who report "horrible" reception: do you keep your roaming enabled? You should: roaming within the U.S. only means you'll roam on Verizon towers which means we get the best of both worlds. The only place we can "roam" in the U.S. is Verizon towers and we roam them for free (both voice and 3G data). So leave roaming on!
Mike
Is it better in this area than the Sensation, I haven't heard any reports of death grip for it?

How's everyone's reception? Mine sucks

Just curious how reception is for others. As you can see in the pic, I'm in a good area, but it drops constantly. It will show, 6 bars, then drop to none, then 2, then none, then 6 and so on. Even sitting next to my airwaves it does this. A friend of mine has the same issues on his s3. Either we have 2 defective phones or sprint sucks. This phone is great but not sure what's up with my reception. It goes into roaming in town near my sprint store.
I'm on sprint running a un-rooted stock rom.
Note this is at the same location for this pic and notice how it goes from green to brown to none. Fluctuates way to much for me being at work in the same spot
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Does call quality or data speed drop too? I read somewhere that the S3 bar indicator scales differently and can not be compared side by side with a different model phone.
Yes really hope you do not have a defective phone and maybe this is a T-Mobile issue.. I live in a very rural area and my Verizon tower is 20 miles away, let's hope this is not the tip of the iceberg on reception for the G3.
So no one has bad reception with this phone? Guess I'll be getting rid of this phone
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So no one has bad reception with this phone? Guess I'll be getting rid of this phone
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Is it dropping calls, or data, or are you just overreacting to a few miscolored bars? I mean, certain spots are going to go into roaming; Sprint isn't everywhere. Does another phone go into roaming at the same spot?
Mine seems to lose signal pretty often. It'll go from full strength or a few bars to the no signal circle with a line through it. Haven't been able to pinpoint why yet.
I will say this signal is not as strong as my iPhone 4s (ATT). I was downtown last night in a Bar. I normally text while I am in there, I could not text last night on my SIII, I get no signal inside. On my iPhone i always could text. Sucks when I'm trying to have girls meet me...
That looks like every Sprint phone I've ever had, to be honest. Mine always do that and I have no idea why. lol
It will roam at the sprint store. Sprint reps can't explain it and I get the "we have never seen this issue before" speech. But I'm going to swap it out. The screen is yellow anyways.
I also roam at home with an airwave. Never had that issue with my evo 3d or photon.
The antenna on this phone can't be that bad can they? I know Sammy has a reputation for horrible reception.
And it does drop calls and texts will have to be resent
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I manage to roam at least 5 times a day. On my moment (SPH M900) Ive barely ever roamed. Also texts seem to fail at sending quite a bit.
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Just curious how reception is for others. As you can see in the pic, I'm in a good area, but it drops constantly. It will show, 6 bars, then drop to none, then 2, then none, then 6 and so on. Even sitting next to my airwaves it does this. A friend of mine has the same issues on his s3. Either we have 2 defective phones or sprint sucks. This phone is great but not sure what's up with my reception. It goes into roaming in town near my sprint store.
I'm on sprint running a un-rooted stock rom.
Note this is at the same location for this pic and notice how it goes from green to brown to none. Fluctuates way to much for me being at work in the same spot
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Sprint sucks ....
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My ATT S3 connects just fine! Some buildings it doesn't like but thats pretty normal. Over all its MUCH better than my old Sprint service. 5-7meg down with HSPA+!
Just got my phone today (att) and signal levels seem low when I look a the status bar. for both wifi and 4g. How do you display that screen from OP? I can't seem to find it.
psloan said:
Just got my phone today (att) and signal levels seem low when I look a the status bar. for both wifi and 4g. How do you display that screen from OP? I can't seem to find it.
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It'd under battery setting. Then tap on the graph at the top. It will bring up that screen
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mine is also horrible , just wait for sprints 4g lte
Same thing happens for me, the phone will drop the signal even when I'm on WiFi, never had this problem with the lte.
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to look at your reception status, simply go to "battery" and then hit the "cell standby" bar in the list of battery usage
with Time on of 8h 37m 26s, time without signal is 26%
Mine is about 3-4 dbm lower than my Thunderbolt I have for work, but it displays 1 or 2 less "bars".
Sprint no-charge roaming
This won't fix your connectivity issues, but
In conversation with a Corporate Sprint Rep today, billing dept, I was informed that Sprint doesn't charge for roaming
in the domestic US. I didn't know this.
If phone goes into roaming, perhaps this lightens the impact?
I think this may have something to do with the antenna being on the bottom of the phone where your palm rests. Atleast thats how it is on my Tmo. If I hold the phone just on the top half or not holding it at all then I get more bars and more consistent. Soon as I hold it in particular with my left hand is when I lose signal bars. This only happens in an area where I'm only getting 2 bars.
I also had a sprint s3 (not active now) but never really checked the signal bar since I never lost connection.

Reception

For those of you have it already how's the reception? Is it any better then the s3?
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pyaa said:
For those of you have it already how's the reception? Is it any better then the s3?
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Let people use it for a while. They haven't even had for more than 12 hours.
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Let people use it for a while. They haven't even had for more than 12 hours.
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Well, technically it shouldn't take more than a few seconds. Put the phones in the same spot, and check the signal strength in dBm.
I agree, those that have it the rest of the world is dying to know!
How is the signal? Is it the same radio that's in the GS3?
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Curious to know from those who upgraded from HTC Thunderbolt with frequent LTE disconnects if the issue remains, which points to network issue, or eliminated but it'll probably require at least a week to confirm.
Coming from GNex, plz let it be better then that :fingers-crossed:
I'd like to think it is slightly better because the size of the device means the antenna can be farther from anything that will cause noise or something. Guess we'll find out tomorrow.
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Coming from GNex, plz let it be better then that :fingers-crossed:
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I really hope it's got a better radio than the GNex. I've been limping along with that thing for the last year. I'll go from a 20 megabit connection to no data without even moving locations.
I kind of hated ordering the Note2 blind, but I've been waiting for a note to arrive on verizon since the note1 came out. If the radio is lousy, well at least I can draw with it.
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another curious verizon customer. Been on htc devices since joining verizon and samsung's cdma woes are well documented. I want the note 2, but need reception.
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For those of you have it already how's the reception? Is it any better then the s3?
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Much better than the GS3 I had, even when I was using all the different types of radios that were available.
Data connection is faster too. Most likely as a result of NOT using a piece of $hit snapdragon SOC.
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Much better than the GS3 I had, even when I was using all the different types of radios that were available.
Data connection is faster too. Most likely as a result of NOT using a piece of $hit snapdragon SOC.
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I think my rezound has a snapdragon SOC, and it has no problems with reception or data speeds. Get up to 40 down and 15 up on it.
Samsung has a history of bad radios on Verizon. It's really the only potential negative of this device.
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I think my rezound has a snapdragon SOC, and it has no problems with reception or data speeds. Get up to 40 down and 15 up on it.
Samsung has a history of bad radios on Verizon. It's really the only potential negative of this device.
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great reception. i also think this has to do with no only better hardware but more landscape inside the phone offers better attenna replacement.
over all phone is awesome, im having no issue one handing it
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Curious to know from those who upgraded from HTC Thunderbolt with frequent LTE disconnects if the issue remains, which points to network issue, or eliminated but it'll probably require at least a week to confirm.
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Well I upgraded to the DNA and I haven't had a single data drop, unlike my Thunderbolt which had them several times a day.
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great reception. i also think this has to do with no only better hardware but more landscape inside the phone offers better attenna replacement.
over all phone is awesome, im having no issue one handing it
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cool, going to head over to verizon store and play with it and dna and look at signal strengths. I only get 1-2 bars in the hospital so if its worse, I might not have signal.
The rezound had good 4g reception but average 3g reception; the galaxy s3 had good 4g reception and below average 3g reception. Anyways I hope folks provide good feedback and 4g, 3g and cellular reception for the note. Very interested in this phone (though it is bigger than I would like). To be honest I would go with the DNA if it had a large battery. Don't take me wrong I think the note has a lot of nice unique feature I just wish it was a bit narrower.
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great reception. i also think this has to do with no only better hardware but more landscape inside the phone offers better attenna replacement.
over all phone is awesome, im having no issue one handing it
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i have my galaxy nexus and my note 2 side by side and signal strength is the same with a slight edge to the note 2. I am looking at the signal strength in options and not the bars.
I have notes 2 and DNA side by side at the possibly worst corner in terms of cell signal.
Note 2 is extremely unstable. keep on switching between LTE to 3G to no signal (the round circle with a cross over the center. usual stop sign)
while DNA has a full bars for CALL. and 1x for data. It is slow, but it is stable and usable.
SHAME ON YOU SAMSUNG. Why put such a stupid radio chip on such a good device otherwise.
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i have my galaxy nexus and my note 2 side by side and signal strength is the same with a slight edge to the note 2. I am looking at the signal strength in options and not the bars.
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Only matters when you are in weak signal areas. If you're seeing -70 to -80 DBMS or lower you're in a decent area. What the Gnex couldn't handle was the weaker areas. Where my rezound was -85 or so the Gnex was -100 or worse. I'll post something when I get back to my office. I'll do a compare and post it. If the Note 2 is anything like the Gnex it will end up the same way with me. Returned! I don't care how cool the phone is.
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I have notes 2 and DNA side by side at the possibly worst corner in terms of cell signal.
Note 2 is extremely unstable. keep on switching between LTE to 3G to no signal (the round circle with a cross over the center. usual stop sign)
while DNA has a full bars for CALL. and 1x for data. It is slow, but it is stable and usable.
SHAME ON YOU SAMSUNG. Why put such a stupid radio chip on such a good device otherwise.
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Not what I wanted to hear
Do you have dBm readings that you could post for a comparison? The data switching between 1x, 3G, and 4G could be fixed in an update hopefully.
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Not what I wanted to hear
Do you have dBm readings that you could post for a comparison? The data switching between 1x, 3G, and 4G could be fixed in an update hopefully.
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the dbm on N2 was jumping from -120 to -98 to -75 and the data connection is ON and OFF. That is frustrating.
My location (my cubicle) here now is like a stress test case in terms of cellphone cell strength in a weaker environment.
IN good coverage, everyone is happy. Both phones are -75dbm and stable.
In weaker ones, N2 can't hold on to a data connection.
I really want to love it, but in this checkbox, there is no competition.
It does perform well in battery category tho.
And by the way, refer to your other post, the screen is not brighter than DNA screen. even put to full brightness. It is just so pathetic putting them side by side to compare.
I will continue test until this evening. If the data connection weakness is confirmed, I have to take N2 back to store. I feel it will make my wife crazy to see me carrying both giant 5 inch phones each costing more than 600 USD combining all costs...

Signal reception is worse compared to other phones, how to improve it?

I have a standard EU model on Vodafone. Several times now I have gone to the same pub with friends. Inside, I always drop to GSM connection while my friends' S3, iphone 4 and galaxy nexus consistently manage to hang onto HSDPA+. This happened during a trip in the mountains as well. It's becoming increasingly obvious that my G3 has a worse reception than most other phones.
Is this expected? how can I improve the situation?
I agree with signal issues. I'm sat next to my partner both on Vodafone.she got a iphone 5s. She has 4bars of signal and im on zero.
welshandy2322 said:
I agree with signal issues. I'm sat next to my partner both on Vodafone.she got a iphone 5s. She has 4bars of signal and im on zero.
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The G3 has known problems on Vodafone(Vodafones fault)
I have had an M8, 1+1 and the G3 at the same time and the G3 is by far the best and on a par with my Nokia 1520 and the 1+1 was the worst. I have now sold both the M8 and 1+1 but they both lost signal quicker and were slower to get it back again and the G3 has slightly faster speed over 10 tests each. The WiFi was better on the M8 as it connected to my home WiFi before I got out of the car when I parked outside. They all work fine in the house so no difference.
My phone is a sim free 855 on EE and the WiFi is Sky. I haven't tested my other one yet but it seems to be the same.
It's happening to me. Also I had lost completely but fixed when reboot. I don't understand why. I heard put copper tape under the back cover for improve signal. I'll try and then let you know.
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Vodafone Portugal I have issues too. Too much I think.
You people do realise "bars" of signal are meaningless? A "bar" is not a measurement of signal (it happens to be a measurement of pressure but thats is besides the point.) Phone signal doesn't really have a unit of measurement so it is given ASU (Arbitrary Strength Unit) which is based off the power of the signal (dBm) Go into settings, about phone -> Network and you will see the quoted ASU and dBm.
Therefore the way signal is represented by bars on a phone is entirely down to how the manufacturer chooses it to be displayed. For example 1 bar could represent 1 ASU on an iPhone, therefore a full 5 bars would mean anywhere from 5 ASU upwards. Whereas on a G3 1 bar could represent 3 ASU, therefore giving a larger display range.
Now I have plucked these figures out of thin air but I think you can see from that example how 1 bar on the G3 and 3 bars on the iPhone would actually be the same signal strength.
Granted if you have NONE and your partner has some, then that is clearly an issue. But don't compare bars, compare ASU.
Just wanted to add my experiences that I've had with my G3 for the past 2 months.
My G3 continuously gets a weaker and more unreliable signal (Three UK) than I have had on any other smartphone I have (One M7, One X+). It's incredibly frustrating as it means I never get LTE indoors but more importantly, my phone will very frequently lose data and cellular connection if I put it in my pocket. What good is a phone if it drops signal while its in your pocket?
573W1E said:
Just wanted to add my experiences that I've had with my G3 for the past 2 months.
My G3 continuously gets a weaker and more unreliable signal (Three UK) than I have had on any other smartphone I have (One M7, One X+). It's incredibly frustrating as it means I never get LTE indoors but more importantly, my phone will very frequently lose data and cellular connection if I put it in my pocket. What good is a phone if it drops signal while its in your pocket?
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Wow, you got 4g on Three network, I went to Three from giffgaff and I had faster speeds on giffgaff 3g than I did with 4g on Three. I'm not on EE and very rarely lose 4g
Are you using a sim adaptor buy any chance?
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Wow, you got 4g on Three network, I went to Three from giffgaff and I had faster speeds on giffgaff 3g than I did with 4g on Three. I'm not on EE and very rarely lose 4g
Are you using a sim adaptor buy any chance?
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I moved to Three from giffgaff and my speeds over both 3G (HSPA+) and 4G LTE have been consistently faster than anything I had on giffgaff. The city where I'm at (Newport) was not on the list of planned 4G cities for 2014 from Three, but it just started rolling out near the start of this month. I'm wondering if it was a rushed rollout to cover the area for the NATO Summit that was in the area a few weeks ago. I've averaged 20mbps download over LTE and about 7/8 down on HSPA+ which are both better than the 3mbps average I had on giffgaff. I'm not using a SIM Adaptor either, the Micro SIM that was in my HTC One M7 fit right into the G3.
I just wish the G3 kept a stronger and more reliable signal, these signal drop outs in my pocket and less reliable elsewhere are defo not Three's (or another carrier's fault), I've never had this issue with any other smartphone I have had. Poor show LG....
573W1E said:
I moved to Three from giffgaff and my speeds over both 3G (HSPA+) and 4G LTE have been consistently faster than anything I had on giffgaff. The city where I'm at (Newport) was not on the list of planned 4G cities for 2014 from Three, but it just started rolling out near the start of this month. I'm wondering if it was a rushed rollout to cover the area for the NATO Summit that was in the area a few weeks ago. I've averaged 20mbps download over LTE and about 7/8 down on HSPA+ which are both better than the 3mbps average I had on giffgaff. I'm not using a SIM Adaptor either, the Micro SIM that was in my HTC One M7 fit right into the G3.
I just wish the G3 kept a stronger and more reliable signal, these signal drop outs in my pocket and less reliable elsewhere are defo not Three's (or another carrier's fault), I've never had this issue with any other smartphone I have had. Poor show LG....
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I would have to disagree with you about the reception on the G3 in my case at least. Both my G3's have better reception than my M8 or my Oneplus One. The G3 even keeps signal(albeit low) in my lift.
I'm in Solihull by the way and according to Three I should of had 4g inside but didn't even get it outside and only got good 4g when I went into Birmingham. Must also say that when I tried Three it was in my Nokia 1520
No problems here compared to my xiaomi mi2.
Same or even better reception.
I have the G3 on T-mobile (USA) and its the best reception phone i've had. Constantly gets LTE where all my previous phones struggled...
(I had HTC One m7, Nexus 5, Z1s, Galaxy S5... to name a few)

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