Look Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258181
From what I little I know they're a) Legit and b) charge for their services. And I'm curious to know if that's the DEV edition, International, or one of the US variants.
One thing I'm fairly sure of is that if whatever method used isn't available to the average user who likes to root, but is no where near being an expert (like me) then it won't result in much development activity of custom ROMs or AOSP ones.
WA_Bob said:
From what I little I know they're a) Legit and b) charge for their services. And I'm curious to know if that's the DEV edition, International, or one of the US variants.
One thing I'm fairly sure of is that if whatever method used isn't available to the average user who likes to root, but is no where near being an expert (like me) then it won't result in much development activity of custom ROMs or AOSP ones.
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There is no international version.
ALL GSM 32gb One's are the same.
Honestly with the state of security on the HTC One as it is TODAY, I don't see S-off as necessary. We can flash kernels, we can flash radios.
I guess the only thing of interest to ME would be getting super CID to get updates straight from HTC, but even that isn't a big deal, as soon as new firmware comes, devs use that as a base to cook up a great ROM.
Long story short, if I can get S-off on my phone for FREE I will do it, but pay for it? NAH.
gunnyman said:
Honestly with the state of security on the HTC One as it is TODAY, I don't see S-off as necessary. We can flash kernels, we can flash radios.
I guess the only thing of interest to ME would be getting super CID to get updates straight from HTC, but even that isn't a big deal, as soon as new firmware comes, devs use that as a base to cook up a great ROM.
Long story short, if I can get S-off on my phone for FREE I will do it, but pay for it? NAH.
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Amen Bro!
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There is no international version.
ALL GSM 32gb One's are the same.
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Well, I know the firmware's different when you have LTE radios on board. I'm not sure if this makes a difference in what has to be done to achieve S-Off, but there are differences. But, given the similar hardware we can hope that doesn't make a difference
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Amen Bro!
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Well, I know the firmware's different when you have LTE radios on board. I'm not sure if this makes a difference in what has to be done to achieve S-Off, but there are differences. But, given the similar hardware we can hope that doesn't make a difference
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The hardware is exactly the same. The software is what makes the difference.
Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236
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The hardware is exactly the same. The software is what makes the difference.
Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223236
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Thanks! I'll keep my fingers crossed with more hope now. :fingers-crossed:
as more people realise all the GSM versions are the same hardware with different software I hope they will merge the att htc one and t-mobile htc one sections to the htc one m7 section.
too bad these guys won't release it as a free guide. Chances are you will have to pay them, send your device in and have the S-off it.
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Honestly with the state of security on the HTC One as it is TODAY, I don't see S-off as necessary. We can flash kernels, we can flash radios.
I guess the only thing of interest to ME would be getting super CID to get updates straight from HTC, but even that isn't a big deal, as soon as new firmware comes, devs use that as a base to cook up a great ROM.
Long story short, if I can get S-off on my phone for FREE I will do it, but pay for it? NAH.
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Wait, we don't need s-off for flashing kernels in recovery? I was told that was the main thing that S-off was needed for, did they change or is my research off?
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Wait, we don't need s-off for flashing kernels in recovery? I was told that was the main thing that S-off was needed for, did they change or is my research off?
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It was, well you could flash roms in the past with recovery, but had to manually flash the boot.img in fastboot with an HTCDev unlocked device. It also use to be that you couldn't flash radios without S-off. You now can flash kernels and radios in recovery. The only real use for S-off is to change the CID to get updates directly from HTC instead of waiting on the carrier, and if you S-off then no need to unlock on HTC dev and possibly void your warranty
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too bad these guys won't release it as a free guide. Chances are you will have to pay them, send your device in and have the S-off it.
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Coming soon to an XDA post near you Maor info
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Coming soon to an XDA post near you Maor info
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Oh rly
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S-off would be nice, but not really critical atm. Could be in the future though if a new Hboot were to come out making it pain to do things affecting people who buy the phone later.
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Okay, so I've been with android since the G1, I've had a G2, and now I have the Amaze 4G, and with each new phone I've become more and more of a flashaholic. So I'm mostly familiar with the processes to root and flash android devices.
My issue is that I'm not familiar enough with what I'm actually doing to know whether or not I should go ahead and root my Amaze.
I've read through the discussions trying to make heads or tails of what the consequences are for doing it now instead of waiting, bit I'm not having much luck.
So, question: What exactly would I be giving up by rooting now vs waiting? I know it voids the warranty with htc, but does that also cause issues with my insurance plan from T-Mobile if I were to need a replacement? Will rooting now remove any chances of obtaining full s- off in the future?
Thanks for the help. I'm pretty sure this is my first post (lurker here) so if I'm in the wrong place or something, go easy on me. Haha.
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA App
I'm waiting to see what is going to happen with s-off. I know it may take a while but will be worth it.
you will be waiting a good few months because we have to find a whole new exploite and you can still get s-off while htc unlocked
and yes you can get a insurance replacement if you have to just say its lost/stolen
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you will be waiting a good few months because we have to find a whole new exploite and you can still get s-off while htc unlocked
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Woah wait. Everything I have seen seemed to say if you took the HTC DEV root method that you couldn't get S-OFF.
If I can do HTC Dev AND still get S-OFF, I'm sold....
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you will be waiting a good few months because we have to find a whole new exploite and you can still get s-off while htc unlocked
and yes you can get a insurance replacement if you have to just say its lost/stolen
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xboarder,
Please correct me if I'm wrong but, if someone uses the htcdev unlock but then in the future, a locked bootloader is needed for a S-OFF exploit, can't we use the RUU you posted in the dev forum to re-lock it?
I mean, it won't reset the warranty, but shouldn't it re-lock the bootloader?
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Woah wait. Everything I have seen seemed to say if you took the HTC DEV root method that you couldn't get S-OFF.
If I can do HTC Dev AND still get S-OFF, I'm sold....
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That was what I gathered as well. From reading all the posts I could find on it, everyone was saying something about S-Off and "Everything S-Off" were different things. Something about S-Off from the HTC unlocker only allows you to change roms and not kernels or radios or something. One guy (I can't find the post unfortunately) said that if you unlock it with the HTC tool, you will never be able to unlock it the rest of the way (everything s-off) so that you can customize the rest of the things. Then again though, I've seen others saying the opposite. Let me know if I'm not making sense. I can try to find the posts where I read this.
I'm not taking any chances.. I'll wait for s-off then root this bad boy.. so far I haven't had any problems with the stock Rom..
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You can relock I just figured this out a ruu can't be flashed unless you have a locked boot loader how you relock hmm
The relock zip I have so you can still get s off when it comes
And ps to the end users why you need s off any ways?
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using xda premium
Well I'm enjoying root personally.
IF I can't get full S-OFF because I unlocked the bootloader then that's what my insurance (not warranty) will be used for.
xboarder56 said:
you will be waiting a good few months because we have to find a whole new exploite and you can still get s-off while htc unlocked
and yes you can get a insurance replacement if you have to just say its lost/stolen
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Im not quite sure thats how it works, man, because if you officially void your warranty, Tmo and Assurion will know about that, make sure... i mean these are big companies that leave nothing to chance (especially insurance companies), so its a common sense to think that when it comes to the most expensive Tmo android smartphone right now, htc has a way of warning them about warranty voids! So even if you call saying youve lost it or got stolen, assurion may decline your request based on that... I wouldnt take the risk and will patiently wait till another way of unlocking the bootloader comes out, not involving htc... hopefully... you just keep up the great work, man, cheers!
Edit: Just found asurions insurance form, where under Exclusions says:
This insurance does not apply to loss or damage caused by or resulting from any of the following:
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i. Programming, Repair Work
Programming, cleaning, adjusting, repairing, modifying, or performing any other work upon Covered Property.
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http://www.phoneclaim.com/documents/MetroPCS/Terms-And-Conditions-New-York.pdf
Hope that sheds more light on this issue
My understanding, and maybe I'm being ubernoob, was that you needed to have S-OFF to COMPLETELY get rid of Sense. Beastmod comes close to the AOSP I want, but it still has the sense dialer and I hate it. (Unless I am misunderstanding and the sense dialer was included as a matter of preference, rather than necessity.)
Ideally, I'd like to be able to load Cyanogen if it ever becomes available but right now it's not that big of a deal. ICS would be nice, but that's so far down the line I'm not too concerned.
If I can get rid of ALL sense (maybe keep the camera apk), and have a stock, unmodified AOSP with no bloat, I'll be happy, but I don't want to jump on that if it screws my ability to flash CM.
U can still flash cm7 trust me and beastmod I tried a lot to get Sodom dialer but no able to would have to re do full framework but no source hard to redo framework
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Having been with android since the G1, the developers will kick ass and make anything possible.
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TheSneakerWhore said:
Having been with android since the G1, the developers will kick ass and make anything possible.
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I wonder what ever happened to superstars like JesusFreke and Haykuro?
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I wonder what ever happened to superstars like JesusFreke and Haykuro?
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They are around...just not like the old days. Still deving here and there.
\Fauk, I miss my G1.
\\Still have it, not so working anymore
Binary100100 said:
Well I'm enjoying root personally.
IF I can't get full S-OFF because I unlocked the bootloader then that's what my insurance (not warranty) will be used for.
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Good call - duh, why didn't I think of that? lol
I unlocked and rooted pretty much AS SOON as the threads were posted but then I read you would not be able to S-off. Kinda started sweating bullets because I know just being bootloader unlocked can limit how much you can modify/flash.
But "losing" my phone is doable lol if/when S-off is achieved and the htc dev unlock screwed us
So to answer the op's question - i LOVE my rooted Amaze. The two ROMs available by xboarder are awesome alternatives to stock and since you say you've had root before then you know all the cool things that come with the territory (removing bloat/crapware, root capable apps, etc)
Just do it already
Sent from my htc Amaze 4g running BeastMOD v1.1.0
wow lol even in this thread I'm confused.
1. Is S-off method that is out now reversable?
2. Are current methods enough to have a full AOSP ICS rom?
The previous poster indicated sense remains in one way or the other with current method.
Will developers still try to get full s-off? I'm hesitant to lose warranty. I feel like we waited this long already... What's a few more weeks?
Cares said:
Will developers still try to get full s-off? I'm hesitant to lose warranty. I feel like we waited this long already... What's a few more weeks?
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I went ahead and unlocked. I figured why not lol. I'm very careful with my electronics
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Cares said:
Will developers still try to get full s-off? I'm hesitant to lose warranty. I feel like we waited this long already... What's a few more weeks?
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Im still waiting but not because of warranty concern, more of a " Im to lazy and dont feel like getting off the couch" kind of lazy. I also dont want to screw up anything even though it doesnt look so hard. And i just want to try aosp roms so im just going to stick to stock for awhile until full s-off ( If our amazing devs still try to do that. )
I am not. The latest hboot on the 3D is proving difficult to crack, and they have unlocked bootloaders as well. I am sure people will keep at it but it has been a few months for them working on the 3D with no luck yet.
While not a given fact, HTC has usually honored warranties for things unrelated to root. It is hit and miss though, some get lucky some don't. That was on tmobile though, as the carriers usually handle the claims side of that. If you are worried get the insurance, then warranty does not matter.
If you're not worried about flashing kernels or radios, then you don't need to worry about S-off. As stated several times in other threads, the majority of what users do with their phones can be done now, including flashing ROMs, custom recoveries, rooting, tethering, etc.
Jump on it and get it done, you'll be thankful you did.
I unlocked and been flashing away, go for it
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Don't see why you'd want to wait for s-off people. You can flash pretty much anything except a radio. Pretty sure we'll see some CM lovin or at least an AOSP rom to tide us over. I don't think they're going to work on s-off anymore since the BL is unlocked.
No hurry here, will wait until you guys get all the bugs out. I would like to wait for s-off so I can change radios and go back to stock if I need to. Don't want my ESN on the list to void my warranty.
triton302 said:
If you're not worried about flashing kernels or radios, then you don't need to worry about S-off. As stated several times in other threads, the majority of what users do with their phones can be done now, including flashing ROMs, custom recoveries, rooting, tethering, etc.
Jump on it and get it done, you'll be thankful you did.
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I've seen several people say in other recent threads that with the newly available methods that kernel flashing will in fact be possible. Can anybody else confirm or deny this? Thanks!
kkryter said:
I've seen several people say in other recent threads that with the newly available methods that kernel flashing will in fact be possible. Can anybody else confirm or deny this? Thanks!
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It's been stated several times in the development thread that yes you can flash kernels with s-on
jbh00jh said:
No hurry here, will wait until you guys get all the bugs out. I would like to wait for s-off so I can change radios and go back to stock if I need to. Don't want my ESN on the list to void my warranty.
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Have fun waiting as I doubt anyone is working on S-off anymore. If they are working on s-off it'll probably be awhile. Verizon still might honor the warranty and if not there's insurance, so I could care less about my ESN being on the "void list".
zetsumeikuro said:
It's been stated several times in the development thread that yes you can flash kernels with s-on
Have fun waiting as I doubt anyone is working on S-off anymore. If they are working on s-off it'll probably be awhile. Verizon still might honor the warranty and if not there's insurance, so I could care less about my ESN being on the "void list".
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I don't mind waiting ,my Rezound is faster ,smoother and has more memory than any rooted phone I every had .
If you try to sell your phone it won't have a clean ESN if it is on the list. Or will it ??
jbh00jh said:
I don't mind waiting ,my Rezound is faster ,smoother and has more memory than any rooted phone I every had .
If you try to sell your phone it won't have a clean ESN if it is on the list. Or will it ??
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It's only blacklisted if it's reported lost/stolen.
kkryter said:
I've seen several people say in other recent threads that with the newly available methods that kernel flashing will in fact be possible. Can anybody else confirm or deny this? Thanks!
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Yes you can flash kernels. The only way I know to do it for sure is to use fastboot but its possible there are other methods.
The ONLY things that cannot be flashed are radios, bootloaders, (understandably considering those are the two things that WILL cause a HARD brick if done wrong or with corrupted files) and I believe splash1 cannot be changed. (not sure why probably because its usually a manufacturer branding)
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I'm waiting for "LOCKED" and "S-ON". Same as on my Incredible. I do hope someone is working on that.
jbh00jh said:
I don't mind waiting ,my Rezound is faster ,smoother and has more memory than any rooted phone I every had .
If you try to sell your phone it won't have a clean ESN if it is on the list. Or will it ??
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pretty sure you could still sell it your esn would be red flagged meaning no warranty but im not 100% u never know with verizon
That's for sure. Glad I don't pay online.
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jdmba said:
I'm waiting for "LOCKED" and "S-ON". Same as on my Incredible. I do hope someone is working on that.
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I'd settle for a devs s-off.
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 10.1
I am fairly new to all of this, have rooted, CWM and ROM'ed a few DINC's and rooted a couple Kindle Fire's, so please bear with me
What is the difference between "S-OFF" and an unlocked boot loader?
What is a Kernel, Radio, ROM, Boot loader, Recovery, etc.? They are all pieces to the puzzle, and I understand a little, but could someone link the pieces together for me? Or suggest a good place to learn the basics of all this stuff?
If I use HTC DEV to unlock the Boot loader, will I be able to gid rid of Verizon's crap ware?
Thanks,
Sam
sstriano said:
I am fairly new to all of this, have rooted, CWM and ROM'ed a few DINC's and rooted a couple Kindle Fire's, so please bear with me
What is the difference between "S-OFF" and an unlocked boot loader?
What is a Kernel, Radio, ROM, Boot loader, Recovery, etc.? They are all pieces to the puzzle, and I understand a little, but could someone link the pieces together for me? Or suggest a good place to learn the basics of all this stuff?
If I use HTC DEV to unlock the Boot loader, will I be able to gid rid of Verizon's crap ware?
Thanks,
Sam
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The info's out there, search is your friend. This has been discussed plenty of times just in the Rezound forum alone, not to mention the entire XDA website.
sstriano said:
I am fairly new to all of this, have rooted, CWM and ROM'ed a few DINC's and rooted a couple Kindle Fire's, so please bear with me
What is the difference between "S-OFF" and an unlocked boot loader?
What is a Kernel, Radio, ROM, Boot loader, Recovery, etc.? They are all pieces to the puzzle, and I understand a little, but could someone link the pieces together for me? Or suggest a good place to learn the basics of all this stuff?
If I use HTC DEV to unlock the Boot loader, will I be able to gid rid of Verizon's crap ware?
Thanks,
Sam
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Here's a list of links I have bookmarked for my studying purposes:
Collection of Root Guides
Will unlock my phone after I learn more about all of this. I'm surprised you rooted Dincs without understanding this stuff!
Now that an unlocked bootloader is an option, do you think the Rezound will ever get S-OFF?
For most, it seems that foregoing a warranty and unlocking the bootloader through htcdev doesn't present any issues. But many of us simply don't want to get exposed to that risk.
Question came up in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22105407#post22105407
We already have permanent root. Are you talking about S-OFF?
From the Rez Beast
GordoGuapo said:
We already have permanent root. Are you talking about S-OFF?
From the Rez Beast
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Talking about the ability to load a ROM.
SamXp said:
Talking about the ability to load a ROM.
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really? do you not see the 10 ROMS listed in the same section that you posted incorrectly in?
the rezound is/was rooted like 2 months ago
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Talking about the ability to load a ROM.
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If you read the forum your in you would know we already can load ROMS and kernels, we just can't touch radios
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Talking about the ability to load a ROM.
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well as to whether or you will be able to ever root your phone with htc dev unlock....probably not
it didnt seem like there was a huge effort made to s-off the rezound prior to unlock (aside from evil fake dev null's bs)
now that there is a way to flash roms, i doubt anyone is bothering
hopefully this is not the future of htc devices on vzw going forward, as personally ive used og inc and inc2 fully s-off and would probably think twice is my next htc phone was dev unlock only
but this should be in general anyway, not development
Obviously, ROM's are available.
Obviously, you can flash them with an unlocked bootloader.
If you don't unlock the bootloader, you are saying there is a Root method available that will allow you to flash a ROM?
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Obviously, ROM's are available.
Obviously, you can flash them with an unlocked bootloader.
If you don't unlock the bootloader, you are saying there is a Root method available that will allow you to flash a ROM?
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No. Why would you think that was on option? Just unlock the effing bootloader. There will probably never be s-off.
tekhna said:
No. Why would you think that was on option? Just unlock the effing bootloader. There will probably never be s-off.
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Because that has been the case for every phone I've owned. Did you even take the time to read the original post? Maybe my English wasn't plain enough? Unlocking the bootloader simply isn't an option for some people.
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Because that has been the case for every phone I've owned. Did you even take the time to read the original post? Maybe my English wasn't plain enough? Unlocking the bootloader simply isn't an option for some people.
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Then don't do it. It's that simple.
This isn't every phone you've ever owned. This is the culmination of every HTC phone released for the last few years. They've learned how to plug nearly all, or enough, of the possible exploits to unlock the bootloader while offering a way to unlock it that doesn't require devs beating their heads against a wall, perhaps fruitlessly for months. The devs aren't going to bother, because why would they? HTC's given us a perfectly reasonable way, and credit to them.
The fact is, we simply don't know what will happen to phones returned under warranty. Plenty of people have returned unlocked phones with no problems.
Thank you for your contribution. This is information I would like to have had before buying this phone. Obviously, it is a gamble to unlock. They make it very clear that it voids your warranty. If there are reports of people getting warranty service in spite of the phone being unlocked, then that is pure luck.
Some of us prefer not to rely on luck.
Never imagined I'd see this type of animosity for a simple question. Especially one as important as this, in relation to this phone.
It appears to me that there's not a large quantity of devs supporting this phone. Hopefully more get the Rezound. I came from the AT&T Captivate and there were tons of devs cooking up ROMS for that one. I had always heard that HTC phones had great dev support on XDA so I didnt really do my homework before buying the phone, it was more of an impulse buy once I saw the large beautiful screen.
All I've done so far is unlock and root my phone. Still running stock and so far I like it a lot. Havent really felt the need to drop a different rom on my phone, or even flash a different kernel. One reason I guess is, the phone works really well as-is, and seems like each kernel or other rom seems to have a good many noted issues.
I hope this improves over time. I loved flashing different roms on my Galaxy S and they were extremely high quality with basically no issues at all. Matter of fact I had been running ICS since back in december and using it as my "daily driver" and it worked extremely well. I believe the only issue was it wouldnt do video recording.
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Thank you for your contribution. This is information I would like to have had before buying this phone. Obviously, it is a gamble to unlock. They make it very clear that it voids your warranty. If there are reports of people getting warranty service in spite of the phone being unlocked, then that is pure luck.
Some of us prefer not to rely on luck.
Never imagined I'd see this type of animosity for a simple question. Especially one as important as this, in relation to this phone.
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They make it very clear it MAY void your warranty. Go check the page. Nowhere does it say "your warranty is now void."
I think most of the animosity is from posting about something that has been beaten to death, in the wrong forum.
tekhna said:
No. Why would you think that was on option? Just unlock the effing bootloader. There will probably never be s-off.
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I'm new to HTC phones...but what is S-OFF and what is the difference between that and unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev.com.
I've unlocked my bootloader, just for the sake of doing it. It was simple. What extra benefits would S-OFF give?
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tekhna said:
They make it very clear it MAY void your warranty. Go check the page. Nowhere does it say "your warranty is now void."
I think most of the animosity is from posting about something that has been beaten to death, in the wrong forum.
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I think the website just says that if you unlock your bootloader HTC may charge you more if you require factory servicing.
tekhna said:
They make it very clear it MAY void your warranty. Go check the page. Nowhere does it say "your warranty is now void."
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Fair enough.
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I think most of the animosity is from posting about something that has been beaten to death, in the wrong forum.
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Help me out here. I've searched about this topic. I referenced the one other thread where the question was asked. There was very little discussion.
S-Off makes it easier to flash kernels and ROMs. You can flash them together with s-off.
This may be a dumb question, but can a Mod please close/move this thread? It's extremely pointless and definitely in the wrong section.
EDIT: and to the OP, THIS is what tekhna is talking about.
derek4484 said:
It appears to me that there's not a large quantity of devs supporting this phone. Hopefully more get the Rezound. I came from the AT&T Captivate and there were tons of devs cooking up ROMS for that one. I had always heard that HTC phones had great dev support on XDA so I didnt really do my homework before buying the phone, it was more of an impulse buy once I saw the large beautiful screen.
All I've done so far is unlock and root my phone. Still running stock and so far I like it a lot. Havent really felt the need to drop a different rom on my phone, or even flash a different kernel. One reason I guess is, the phone works really well as-is, and seems like each kernel or other rom seems to have a good many noted issues.
I hope this improves over time. I loved flashing different roms on my Galaxy S and they were extremely high quality with basically no issues at all. Matter of fact I had been running ICS since back in december and using it as my "daily driver" and it worked extremely well. I believe the only issue was it wouldnt do video recording.
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I'd hoped this would improve, over time, as well. I don't get that impression, judging by the reaction in this thread.
What is ROM? is that an internal component of the phone? Like memory? Is there soldering involved to load a ROM?
WasabiWa83 said:
S-Off makes it easier to flash kernels and ROMs. You can flash them together with s-off.
This may be a dumb question, but can a Mod please close/move this thread? It's extremely pointless and definitely in the wrong section.
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If the thread is in the wrong section - I can see the need to move it. But closing it would prevent would-be buyers from obtaining valuable information that could be critical to their purchase decision. No reason to hide the truth that the Rezound will probably never get S-OFF.
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I'd hoped this would improve, over time, as well. I don't get that impression, judging by the reaction in this thread.
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I think the reaction your getting is because this has been hashed and rehashed alot and putting topics in Development is a big no no . HTC has said they will still honor the warranty related to hardware as long as customizing isn't the cause of the failure..ie overclocking and burning up processor etc.. Verizon is the one that voids the warranty which is understandable after reading the threads of people that do stuff without reading prior to messing with the phone.
I keep seeing all these T-Mobile roms and I am wondering when well see a Mobilicity rom, so mobilicity users won't have to s off and things. They should be able to just root and flash that rom in recovery. Devs, can you make one please? A good one, with beats audio
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Shivammcool said:
I keep seeing all these T-Mobile roms and I am wondering when well see a Mobilicity rom, so mobilicity users won't have to s off and things. They should be able to just root and flash that rom in recovery. Devs, can you make one please? A good one, with beats audio
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Why are you so lazy? The devs work hard on here to develop roms, not to mention the developer of juopnobear had to take his time to discover the hack for s-off. Why can't you take the hour or so needed to obtain s-off? These people develop for me and you for free. Be a little grateful, child. After all, you've likely already thanked your parents for this phone that they bought you. And if they were to develop a Rom, don't be so picky you spoiled child. "a good one with beats".
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Just S-Off and SuperCID, you probably won't be seeing Mobilicity ROMs in the future. The whole process actually takes 5-10 minutes, and it's not that difficult to nail it on the first couple of tries...
You don't need s-off to use custom roms, so all of you need to calm down and op you need do some more reading.
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Dark Nightmare said:
You don't need s-off to use custom roms, so all of you need to calm down and op you need do some more reading.
sent from a galaxy you'll never see.
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No, but if they need supercid to use any carrier's rom, they do need s-off for that. If he has a mobilicity phone, he needs s-off.
To the OP, s-off isn't hard, and everything you could ever want to know is in the bible in my signature. S-off is just a matter of time, and I think I remember seeing that hasoon added it to his all in one tool, which may be even easier. Try to do it, and if you have issues I am sure someone here is more than willing to help. As an alternative, you could build your own roms and offer them to the community, we actually already have resources that give a good place to get started. Or, if you just want specific features, research them and add them yourself- beats is one you can easily flash, the mod was recently updated.
Trewyy - I think I have seen more than one post by you that was just plain rude.. we can all get frustrated at other users, but we don't have to go as far as to throw insults calling people lazy and children. The amaze forums have mostly become a place where people give positive and productive feedback, there is no reason you can't help keep up the trend.
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No, but if they need supercid to use any carrier's rom, they do need s-off for that. If he has a mobilicity phone, he needs s-off.
To the OP, s-off isn't hard, and everything you could ever want to know is in the bible in my signature. S-off is just a matter of time, and I think I remember seeing that hasoon added it to his all in one tool, which may be even easier. Try to do it, and if you have issues I am sure someone here is more than willing to help. As an alternative, you could build your own roms and offer them to the community, we actually already have resources that give a good place to get started. Or, if you just want specific features, research them and add them yourself- beats is one you can easily flash, the mod was recently updated.
Trewyy - I think I have seen more than one post by you that was just plain rude.. we can all get frustrated at other users, but we don't have to go as far as to throw insults calling people lazy and children. The amaze forums have mostly become a place where people give positive and productive feedback, there is no reason you can't help keep up the trend.
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You do realise you can flash a custom rom via recovery whether you're super-cid or not right? S-Off isn't hard, but not every one has that little courage they need to do it, custom roms don't require super-cid, only if you wanna switch to another carrier's complete stock rom then you'll need to super-cid and I'm talking via a ruu/ota/exe image file.
And I second the last part of your comment.
Isn't it possible to add custom CIDs on the ROMs you install? I forgot where you would add/change it. In the build.prop maybe?
Something just keeps telling me it's AndroidInfo.txt or something, but I can't find that in many ROMs.
Keylogger_0 said:
Isn't it possible to add custom CIDs on the ROMs you install? I forgot where you would add/change it. In the build.prop maybe?
Something just keeps telling me it's AndroidInfo.txt or something, but I can't find that in many ROMs.
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It's in the build.prop but that's not the only place the CID is stored, it's also stored in the bootloader/hboot file, that you can't change the way you would a build.prop file unless s-off but in the case of custom roms, it doesn't matter, only system files and kernels are being changed, not the entire system, therefore the verification of CID isn't checked or needed.
Shivammcool said:
I keep seeing all these T-Mobile roms and I am wondering when well see a Mobilicity rom, ....
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I'm on Mobilicity and I haven't used any specific roms for them. I'd root and unlock though.
Have you applied any ROMs prior? Be happy to help you along if not.
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I have a Verizon One Max with the latest OTA, completely stock, and I'd like to flash a custom rom. I don't care if I lose fingerprint scanner and I'd love to be able to have the ability to return to full stock if I ever need to return the phone to Verizon. I assume that the latest OTA has broken or at least stalled current methods to unlock, root, etc.
Can someone please tell me if an existing method still works and if so, point me in the right direction or give step by step if you have the time?
I've had Samsung phones for the longest time and the process was so dead simple, I feel a little bit over my head with this HTC phone even though I love the look and feel of the phone itself. Thank you for your help in advance if you have the time.
As of right now there's no method yet for the OTA version of 6 sense were waiting patiently..
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As of right now there's no method yet for the OTA version of 6 sense were waiting patiently..
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Thank you very much, I'll do the same. Would you mind telling me some names, if we have them, of the most active HTC One devs that might push these solutions if they are able to crack big red's locks? I'd love to be able to follow the posts of these devs to learn as much as I can as we await the breakthrough.
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Thank you very much, I'll do the same. Would you mind telling me some names, if we have them, of the most active HTC One devs that might push these solutions if they are able to crack big red's locks? I'd love to be able to follow the posts of these devs to learn as much as I can as we await the breakthrough.
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@Flyhalf205/ dottat they have the nusense 6 rom thread….and @Vinchenzop has the viper rom thread
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Both are extraordinary Developers can't go wrong with either
I'm thinking sunshine works for latest.
thayl0 said:
I'm thinking sunshine works for latest.
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Yes, sunshine does work for the latest OTA. It is what I used after getting the OTA. I was totally stock up until using sunshine.
Awesome! Would you mind outlining a quick step by step of how you found success or pointing me to a thread that outlined the journey from stock to flashed? As I mentioned, I was well versed in the (admittedly simple) process of flashing samsung phones, but since the switch to HTC it feels like another language.
Thanks for the confirmation thafrogggg and thanks for the tip thay!
This feels like the place! http://theroot.ninja/
Excited to get started!
snapz54 said:
This feels like the place! http://theroot.ninja/
Excited to get started!
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Just to document here if anyone else is coming to this thread as lost as I was:
1. go to the URL above and download sunshine.apk (made by jcase)
2. run the apk and it does EVERYTHING (you don't need to unlock, root, etc) There is a catch though, this costs $25 one time fee through paypal in app and the license is locked to your individual phone.
3. If you reverse the process (which can be done easily according to jcase) you can redo it later, but only on the same phone.
4. The APK leaves you with S-Off on most every HTC device it seems (good news is, it won't let you pay unless it knows that it can help you)
5. The whole things takes less than 10 minutes from what I've seen and then you need to flash a custom recovery, kernel, rom, etc.
I'm not involved with the thing, but it seems to be an awesome solution.
Going to give it a shot now.