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I have been messing around with system tuner app for a while now and I really like the program.
I would like to hear from people who have used this app and their results with various tweaks that this app provides.
in the boot settings menu:
1. forcing both CPU's online: this should technically give you a better battery life, since it puts less strain on on cpu at a time, has anyone had a good exprience using this?
2. Boost app loading: anyone had any significant improvement with this?
My own settings:
I usually clock my phone at 1.5 (on demand governor) even though faux's kernel allows 1.7 max. I put max clock for screen off at 384 and conservative governor.
I have Undervolted before but do not see a very significant battery difference so I just left it alone.
I tried out the autokill option of system tuner, I only tried to kill the ghost apps, to refrain from the cpu from having to keep restarting the phone, but this also seems to kill battery life...In my experience any type of task killer however detailed will reduce battery and does not increase performance, unless you're running a poorly written app that just needs to be killed.
I use three other programs to monitor my phone
1. system pannel: very good at finding rogue apps that kill cpu...I highly recommend the pro version, you can get a history of what has used cpu up to a week.
2. Onavo and My data manger which basically monitor my wifi and mobile traffic, Onavo only monitors mobile network traffic and lets you restrict apps to only wifi. however it does not measure wifi use of data. My data manager monitor both wifi and network usage but does not give you any options to do anything with the apps, it basically tells you what program is using data while on wifi and mobile.
If anyone has found a good balance between performance and battery saving, please do share.
Thank you.
I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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I have widget locker and havn't had that problem...I just flashed faux's latest kernel and am in the process of re calibrating my battery, it seemed to jump from 100 to 90 in about 10 minutes!!!!!! now I noticed that happening...but I havn't had time to fully replicate it...i need more time..I believe it might have something to do with fauxes kernel, he mentioned that when screen goes off he it puts the phone into a low power consumption mode, but also has something that when you turn it on, is quick to turn on!!! we'll have to wait and see.
If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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They have maybe a bit better battery life. I went back to stock.
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Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Data Connection, Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
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Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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while you sleep, you won't be checking for emails will you? but you expect to wake and see emails received.... that is where it comes in handy. with apps like tasker, you can automate some of this activities. tasker + syncer should be a good combo for you.
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
I've noticed the same type of activity when in Airplane mode. Extremely low power consumption - fantastic.
Is it possible maybe to undervolt the Wifi/BT/Mobile radios? Would that make any difference or am I off base here?
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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You had something setup wrong then I think.. you can change how often in syncs while the screen is off, the default setting is for it to turn on data for 1 minute every 15 minutes. Most people don't need to know things so bad that they can't work with a 14 minute delay(at worst), and of couse the internet is on while screen is on, when you're actually using it.
I thought I would need to use juice defender, but since I switched to bulletproof, my usage last me an entire day. From 8am till 1am, usually with some to spare. The only tweak I made to cpu was to enable 192mhz, it isn't like there is a performance drop, but it did make a notable difference in battery life.
If I wanted to I could use juice defender to get more than one day out of it, and I keep a spare battery on me in case I really need to use the phone.. but haven't really needed it.
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
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How many apps have you installed?
I've seen a lot of users' postings of battery statistics (screen shots) and they are all considerably better than what I am getting. The biggest difference I see is in the amount of battery drain from "Android System." What I see posted is between 9% and 13%. However, my batt stats show the Android System draining 60% of the battery.
So, what am I doing wrong? I'm still kind of new to Android. Is it the widgets? I've checked running processes verses what apps are draining battery life and nothing is running that drains like the system does.
Further info: I am currently running the 7.18.12 build of Diet ICS, but I was seeing this behavior on stock as well. Some widgets I use: Astrid premium tasks widget, Evernote, doubletwist, slacker, 3D clock/weather, a widgetsoid switcher, and APW Calendar.
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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How much screen on time over how long and what kind of use?
60% is high but there's known bugs in android OS reporting.
I'm asking because you we're saying your new. It takes a lot of power to power this 4.8 screen
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I've seen a lot of users' postings of battery statistics (screen shots) and they are all considerably better than what I am getting. The biggest difference I see is in the amount of battery drain from "Android System." What I see posted is between 9% and 13%. However, my batt stats show the Android System draining 60% of the battery.
So, what am I doing wrong? I'm still kind of new to Android. Is it the widgets? I've checked running processes verses what apps are draining battery life and nothing is running that drains like the system does.
Further info: I am currently running the 7.18.12 build of Diet ICS, but I was seeing this behavior on stock as well. Some widgets I use: Astrid premium tasks widget, Evernote, doubletwist, slacker, 3D clock/weather, a widgetsoid switcher, and APW Calendar.
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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How often do your widgets that gather info refresh? Try scaling down on some widgets and see if that helps. If not, try to flash stock with odin and start over. I was having some problems with my phone when I first got it (MTP specifically) and I falshed stock and everything started working fine. Also, if you are using Google Chrome, make sure you have the experimental feature of using the gyroscope for tilt scrolling set to off....it is known to drain battery.
Hope this helps :good:
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How often do your widgets that gather info refresh? Try scaling down on some widgets and see if that helps. If not, try to flash stock with odin and start over. I was having some problems with my phone when I first got it (MTP specifically) and I falshed stock and everything started working fine. Also, if you are using Google Chrome, make sure you have the experimental feature of using the gyroscope for tilt scrolling set to off....it is known to drain battery.
Hope this helps :good:
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Maybe I will try flashing stock if I have time today. I reset my battery stats in recovery mode when I took the phone off the charger this morning, so we'll see how today goes.
I looked into the widgets and the only one that refreshes data on a schedule is the clock/weather. I'll try a different one or just not use the weather.
Great tip about Chrome. Didn't know it did that.
Do I actually need to calibrate the battery? I tried the method of letting it die and charge back up a few times and I've tried recharging once it gets down between 70-80 percents life. I'm not sure which method helped, but I did notice an improvement.
Thanks again for the help.
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How much screen on time over how long and what kind of use?
60% is high but there's known bugs in android OS reporting.
I'm asking because you we're saying your new. It takes a lot of power to power this 4.8 screen
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Not sure how to know how long the screen was on. Is there a way to know that? If I had to guess I'd say 4 hours. I use the Smart Stay option as well. I wonder if wiping the stats will give me more valid data.
Thank you for the help.
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Not sure how to know how long the screen was on. Is there a way to know that? If I had to guess I'd say 4 hours. I use the Smart Stay option as well. I wonder if wiping the stats will give me more valid data.
Thank you for the help.
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settings>battery>click on the gray use bar & you can see screen on time.
It is because you are running touchjizz. Cm and aokp are the best :highfive:
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I have my display off auto-brightness and on a low setting, I probably utilize the task manager 50x a day and clear the ram as well, cpu sleeper is always activated, gps/sync/auto-rotate/wifi/bluetooth is always off unless I need them, and I have power saving mode on most of the time.
With all these settings off and I am a heavy texter/caller/browser/emailer, my battery lasts from 7AM-1AM and I am at 30-40% at the end of the day!
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I have my display off auto-brightness and on a low setting, I probably utilize the task manager 50x a day and clear the ram as well, cpu sleeper is always activated, gps/sync/auto-rotate/wifi/bluetooth is always off unless I need them, and I have power saving mode on most of the time.
With all these settings off and I am a heavy texter/caller/browser/emailer, my battery lasts from 7AM-1AM and I am at 30-40% at the end of the day!
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Great advice. Thanks. What do you use for "cpu sleeper"?
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I have my display off auto-brightness and on a low setting, I probably utilize the task manager 50x a day and clear the ram as well, cpu sleeper is always activated, gps/sync/auto-rotate/wifi/bluetooth is always off unless I need them, and I have power saving mode on most of the time.
With all these settings off and I am a heavy texter/caller/browser/emailer, my battery lasts from 7AM-1AM and I am at 30-40% at the end of the day!
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Never mind! Just searched" CPU sleeper" on the Play store and--voila!
On another note, I'm so glad I got a device with a huge support community. Coming from iOS, it's nice to feel part of a collective effort again and get such great advice. I know there are a lot of iOS forums and there is some great work done through those communities, but those seem so trivial compared to what is done through XDA and the level of helpfulness is unparalleled here.
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Great advice. Thanks. What do you use for "cpu sleeper"?
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Do I actually need to calibrate the battery? I tried the method of letting it die and charge back up a few times and I've tried recharging once it gets down between 70-80 percents life. I'm not sure which method helped, but I did notice an improvement.
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I read somewhere in the forum that these batteries actually like to be constantly charged up and not let die completely. There was no explanation for this but I will research it because I am curious. With my old Captivate, i let it die then fully charge to extend the overall life of the battery.
How is your battery so far?
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I read somewhere in the forum that these batteries actually like to be constantly charged up and not let die completely. There was no explanation for this but I will research it because I am curious. With my old Captivate, i let it die then fully charge to extend the overall life of the battery.
How is your battery so far?
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I've applied all the tricks folks have shared here and have flashed the Diet ICS rom. I am going to take screen shots of my usage data on a daily basis and see how things fair. I'll post my results here. Here is one from last night before really getting into all the tricks and the new rom. So, maybe this is my "before" shot in this documentary of a noob's journey to better battery life.
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I've seen a lot of users' postings of battery statistics (screen shots) and they are all considerably better than what I am getting. The biggest difference I see is in the amount of battery drain from "Android System." What I see posted is between 9% and 13%. However, my batt stats show the Android System draining 60% of the battery.
So, what am I doing wrong? I'm still kind of new to Android. Is it the widgets? I've checked running processes verses what apps are draining battery life and nothing is running that drains like the system does.
Further info: I am currently running the 7.18.12 build of Diet ICS, but I was seeing this behavior on stock as well. Some widgets I use: Astrid premium tasks widget, Evernote, doubletwist, slacker, 3D clock/weather, a widgetsoid switcher, and APW Calendar.
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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Have you tried using the CPU Sleeper app?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745516
I found that it does a great job of preserving battery life when the phone is in standby. I used to notice my battery draining really fast over short periods on standby (phone would be hot to the touch). After installing this, I have not encountered that problem again. I get 16-20 hours of use on moderate usage. LTE, gps, and sync are always enabled. I DO NOT have the phone in power saving mode and I seldom use wifi. I used to get 10-12 hours of battery life on the same usage before. I am running the rooted version of the stock rom from my carrier.
CPU sleeper app works great for me. I am in a non LTE area but get incredible battery life, last all day usually with around 50% left. An order of magnitude better than my SGS2
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Have you tried using the CPU Sleeper app?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745516
I found that it does a great job of preserving battery life when the phone is in standby. I used to notice my battery draining really fast over short periods on standby (phone would be hot to the touch). After installing this, I have not encountered that problem again. I get 16-20 hours of use on moderate usage. LTE, gps, and sync are always enabled. I DO NOT have the phone in power saving mode and I seldom use wifi. I used to get 10-12 hours of battery life on the same usage before. I am running the rooted version of the stock rom from my carrier.
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CPU sleeper app works great for me. I am in a non LTE area but get incredible battery life, last all day usually with around 50% left. An order of magnitude better than my SGS2
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I am using CPU Sleeper now, thanks to the advice of a previous poster on page 1. Good to hear it works for others.
I had the SGS2 as well and the S3 is definitely better.
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Hi all,
I also notice this and this were the steps that I did and seems to help me to reduce this process to like 5 %. I'm on Sprint S3 but should be the same for the all carriers.
Go ahead and open Talk application. You should see your account in green (I'm not using this application) then hit the menu and then select sigh Off. Make sure that your account changes to Offline (sometimes it is change back it self so open one more time make sure that it says Offline). Then what else I change is in wi-fi advanced options: under Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep I choose Only when plugged in option. then I reboot the phone and from now on (almost 2 days) my Android system process show up only 5% of usage and my battery life improve significantly. I hope this will helps.
Thanks
Those are great tips. Thanks. I will say I've gotten increasingly better life since employing other tips discussed here.
Something else I did was download a profile changing app. I got Quick Profiles, but anything should do. If anyone uses anything better, please share. I have a profile for power saving that turns down my brightness, and turns off wifi and Bluetooth. The app will let you put shortcuts on the home screen to instantly change the profile. I'd like to find one, however, that will also turn off gps and mobile data.
hello
i recently installed on my vibrant the ROM: VIBRANT [ROM][SKANG] JELLYBRO CM10 KANG build
at the start it work fine, a little slow, so i installed the devil3 kernel 1.0.4 for JB
the kernel did the job and now it work much faster BUT now the battery life is barley last for 10 hr !!
any one can help me solve this ??
i cant charge my phone 3 times a day!!
thanks in advance
Calibrate the battery and don't over clock a lot.
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Calibrate the battery and don't over clock a lot.
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can you please be a little more specific about what to do??
i don't really understand what calibrate mean? and i didn't change the over clock at all
Download the battery calibrator from the market. Charge to 100, then calibrate. Maybe your phone is not getting into deep sleep.
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Go to my Battery Guide stickied in the Q&A section and see if any of those tips apply. In the 3rd post, there are apps that will help determine what is draining your battery.
Download Betterbatterystats from the 3rd post and run it. Post a screen shot of Partial Wakelocks/Since Unplugged and we'll see what is draining your battery and move on from there.
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Go to my Battery Guide stickied in the Q&A section and see if any of those tips apply. In the 3rd post, there are apps that will help determine what is draining your battery.
Download Betterbatterystats from the 3rd post and run it. Post a screen shot of Partial Wakelocks/Since Unplugged and we'll see what is draining your battery and move on from there.
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first of all thanks for your quick help!
now i did take a pic of the screen and i will do the battery calibration app, but after the instillation of the ROM i did go to the CWR and did wipe battery status but it did noting.
thanks again for your help
Can you give a screen shot like the above but with a little more time on it than 4 minutes? Maybe with a few hours on it. That way we can see a little more info. All that is on that screenshot is the modem initializing and your media scanner.
Also when you wiped Battstat in CWR, that was the same thing as the Battery Calibration app is doing. Just the app is easier in that you don't have to boot into recovery to wipe them.
Do the battery calibration when your phone is charged to 100%. A buddy of mine was having awful battery life, turned out he wiped his battery stats when it was only half charged and then it seemed to charge only half way.
Charged it to 100%, then calibrated and viola.
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Do the battery calibration when your phone is charged to 100%. A buddy of mine was having awful battery life, turned out he wiped his battery stats when it was only half charged and then it seemed to charge only half way.
Charged it to 100%, then calibrated and viola.
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here is a more updated pic of the battery status
and i did the battery calibration from the CWR ween i was on 100% charged battery
hope the pic will help!
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Perfect. You must have either your GPS or Network Location on all the time. That is what is killing your battery. Do you use Maps/ Navagation a lot? How about apps that track your location like Foursquare/Twitter/G+ or FB (even apps like Angry Birds do this crap). Find the app that is broadcasting and you'll find the leak.
I have the MLB At-Bat app on both my phone and my tablet and on my tablet, I allow it to use my location so I can watch the games. It is a wifi only tablet and I have the wifi policy to cut off when tablet is in stand-by mode. On my phone however, I manually turn it on/off when I want to watch a game, so it never interferes with deepsleep and not broadcasting my location using GPS and battery at the same time. See where I am going with this?
I am betting that you don't get into deepsleep much because of the wakelocks interupting the sequence. Install CPUspy and let it runs for a few hours. After a bit, open it up and I would venture to say that your DS will be minimal.
Let's solve your battery drain first and then we can put on our tin-foil-hats and I'll show you some apps that are tracking you.
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Perfect. You must have either your GPS or Network Location on all the time. That is what is killing your battery. Do you use Maps/ Navagation a lot? How about apps that track your location like Foursquare/Twitter/G+ or FB (even apps like Angry Birds do this crap). Find the app that is broadcasting and you'll find the leak.
I have the MLB At-Bat app on both my phone and my tablet and on my tablet, I allow it to use my location so I can watch the games. It is a wifi only tablet and I have the wifi policy to cut off when tablet is in stand-by mode. On my phone however, I manually turn it on/off when I want to watch a game, so it never interferes with deepsleep and not broadcasting my location using GPS and battery at the same time. See where I am going with this?
I am betting that you don't get into deepsleep much because of the wakelocks interupting the sequence. Install CPUspy and let it runs for a few hours. After a bit, open it up and I would venture to say that your DS will be minimal.
Let's solve your battery drain first and then we can put on our tin-foil-hats and I'll show you some apps that are tracking you.
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i don't use at all the GPS or maps or navigation , i canceled all the location services in the settings !
i have no idea how to Find the app that is broadcasting?
i uninstalled a lot of apps after what you wroth me but still no change
i have a felling that all of this is happening because of the devil3 kernel, just after i installed it the battery went low!
Do you have the devil configuration app?
If so, what are your settings?
I run the devil kernel on both of my devices and I average about 28hrs battery life with moderate to heavy use.
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Now that is frickin' comedy! On a serious note though, it does get frustrating chasing these things around. After I flash and get everything setup I make a nandroid.. Then when it happens I skip all the trying to find the culprit business and reflash and restore from scratch. I would rather have the hassle than be annoyed lol.
i like to keep my gs3 connected to wifi and muted while i'm sleeping but when i wake up i always get 8-10% battery drain (in 8 hours app), i come from a motorola atrix which in the same conditions i get no more than 2% drain over night.
i've tried many roms (omega, foxhound, ultimarom...), many kernels (stock, galaxsih, siyah, phenomenal medium and extreme...), and also some basebands (modem, radio) but i keep sticking with the XXLH1 'cause i get less drain with this one. but in any combination i always get 8-10% battery drain during night.
i've seen some of you say that you get 2-4% drain in the same context so i would like to know what am i doing wrong :/
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im using the leaked stock 4.1.2 there now, and i had 3% drain in 11hrs between overnight and not using it this am.
seems v good for battery life so far. i know your pain though. its non usage time i want to be high batterylife. id expect 2-3 days from the phone when not playing games etc... im hoping this is gonna fix that now. most reports are good about battery so heres hoping.
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How is it sleeping overnight? check settings > battery and check how much it's awake when the screen is off, then check better battery stats to see what is waking it up, I would probably say you have too much synced.
you're right, i have too much synced, 3 google accounts, plus facebook, twitter, whatsapp, skype and others but those are the same settings i had on my old motorola atrix and even there i got 1-2% drain, although i was on gingerbread.
i will install some battery stats application to see in details whats draining it so much, 'cause under settings it only says that idle and standby time are the draining reasons.
gonna try the leaked 4.1.2 to see if i get better results, thanks!.
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you're right, i have too much synced, 3 google accounts, plus facebook, twitter, whatsapp, skype and others but those are the same settings i had on my old motorola atrix and even there i got 1-2% drain, although i was on gingerbread.
i will install some battery stats application to see in details whats draining it so much, 'cause under settings it only says that idle and standby time are the draining reasons.
gonna try the leaked 4.1.2 to see if i get better results, thanks!.
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Better battery stats is the best, but that is a lot to sync, I would imagine it's not sleeping well because whenever an app decides to sync it will wake the phone up, and let's not forget the S3 has a 1.4GHz quad core CPU, if it wakes and uses all cores it will drain the battery faster than a single or dual core CPU. I notice the Atrix has a 1GHz dual core, so you should expect a lot more drain especially with that much synced, honestly you shouldn't need Skype syncing unless you always want your skype contacts to be up to date in the contacts app, and Twitter just syncs to pull the latest tweets through, you can just do that manually every time you open the app.
Before 4.1.1 I got 9 hours 99% overnight no 3g or Internet, now it's 90%
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Before 4.1.1 I got 9 hours 99% overnight no 3g or Internet, now it's 90%
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does that mean that jelly bean is making you experience worse battery life?.
maybe it's because the atrix has 2 cores but if the gs3 uses all 4 cores to fetch or sync some data, that would mean it's not very well optimized for simple tasks, thanks anyway i'll try better battery stats
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does that mean that jelly bean is making you experience worse battery life?.
maybe it's because the atrix has 2 cores but if the gs3 uses all 4 cores to fetch or sync some data, that would mean it's not very well optimized for simple tasks, thanks anyway i'll try better battery stats
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Android doesn't fully support multi-core CPUs yet, which is the main problem, all you can try if you need all the apps syncing is download a custom kernel and change the CPU governor this will change how the system uses the CPU and it can help.
Well for starters, Google Now should be disabled if you are concerned about battery life. Also check for and disable latitude and location reported from maps (they are getting activated by google now) Even if data/sync/gps are off google now constantly polling for updates thus draining battery.
With my HD2 running GB/Froyo for over 2 years, and methodical testing to achieve the lowest battery drain in standby (testing for 8hrs at night) the best I could do in AP mode was .35% per hour which is less than 3% over 8hrs.
I have owned and tested my S3 for 4 months and usually get 1% per hr and in AP mode....I get similar to the HD2 above at .35% per hour but I haven't tested to crazily.
I find it hard to believe and would love to be convinced, that any S3 owner can get less than 3% per hour drain without going into AP mode. Please prove me wrong and state your methods for all to learn.
Finally, I do not find the battery drain to be Linear. I am guessing that a battery charged to 100% sometimes may actually be a bit stronger than 100%. So doing a random single test may result in low drain numbers but that may be misleading. That same test performed at 20% level, may yield worse results if in fact my theory that the battery does not drain linearly...is true. But for consistency, I always perform the test at 100% battery and let it sit in the charger for an extra 2hrs before unplugging it. This way, at least the test is more consistent and more directly comparable.
I now have Green Power app installed and it is able to automatically turn off wifi/data in standby under conditions set by me, the user. I am performing some nightly drain tests. I would be thrilled if I could get between .35-.75% per hour. My first 2 nightly tests failed thanks to Slacker Radio....which held a Wakelock even though I bloody killed it!
I think this could be due to fast dormacy
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/06/at-your-own-risk-how-to-disable-fast.html?m=1 there is an app to disable this.
Read this link first though
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A bit off topic but just reminds me of my old Nokia N95 because whenever I was in a network dead spot or just have no signal for whatever reason (Gif fgaff) the battery would completely run dry within maybe 6 hours, and you'd think because it has no signal it should last longer than the few days standby I normally got.
And I've never had a SIM in any of my Android phones that lost service for long so has anyone seen this happen on an Android or is it just a Symbian thing?
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A bit off topic but just reminds me of my old Nokia N95 because whenever I was in a network dead spot or just have no signal for whatever reason (Gif fgaff) the battery would completely run dry within maybe 6 hours, and you'd think because it has no signal it should last longer than the few days standby I normally got.
And I've never had a SIM in any of my Android phones that lost service for long so has anyone seen this happen on an Android or is it just a Symbian thing?
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When a phone has no signal it has to scan all frequencies for a signal, this constant switching of frequencies drains a lot of battery, it also increases the power to the mobile networks chip to try to pick up even a weak signal, which also drains the battery faster, it happens on all phones.
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im using the leaked stock 4.1.2 there now, and i had 3% drain in 11hrs between overnight and not using it this am.
seems v good for battery life so far. i know your pain though. its non usage time i want to be high batterylife. id expect 2-3 days from the phone when not playing games etc... im hoping this is gonna fix that now. most reports are good about battery so heres hoping.
in a few days will know more
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Could you please share your settings to get these results.
Thanks.
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Could you please share your settings to get these results.
Thanks.
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It's the new 4.1.2 xxelk4 firmware
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It's the new 4.1.2 xxelk4 firmware
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Which I am running but 3% over 11 hours?
Any e-mail accouunts? What do you have enabled/disabled? What is syncing?
The best I have ever managed was about 1%per hour and that was with everything off apart from the cell.
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Which I am running but 3% over 11 hours?
Any e-mail accouunts? What do you have enabled/disabled? What is syncing?
The best I have ever managed was about 1%per hour and that was with everything off apart from the cell.
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Read the link I posted above about fast dormacy and if this is your problem then get the app fast dormacy from play store
If you're worried about wifi while sleeping also have sync turned off and location in settings and disable notifications from play store and disable notifications from apps also
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Read the link I posted above about fast dormacy and if this is your problem then get the app fast dormacy from play store
If you're worried about wifi while sleeping also have sync turned off and location in settings and disable notifications from play store and disable notifications from apps also
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Will give it a try but I have never seen it show up in BBS in the past hence never tried it (I was aware of it) and as far as I am aware O2 (UK) does support Fast Dormancy.
It is not that I an dubious about the 3% drop over 11 hours I just want to get to the same level!
EDIT: To get the 3% drop do you disable everything you mention above? I use Tasker to disable everything including sync, wifi etc...except the cell. But I do not disable play store notifications seperately.
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Which I am running but 3% over 11 hours?
Any e-mail accouunts? What do you have enabled/disabled? What is syncing?
The best I have ever managed was about 1%per hour and that was with everything off apart from the cell.
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This is what I have come to expect. 1% per hour is reasonable and typical. 3% over 11hrs...hmmm...I don't believe it.
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Read the link I posted above about fast dormacy and if this is your problem then get the app fast dormacy from play store
If you're worried about wifi while sleeping also have sync turned off and location in settings and disable notifications from play store and disable notifications from apps also
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I have messed with this before without positive results. But anyway, since it seems like you have it working...what is your typical % drain over 8hrs?
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This is what I have come to expect. 1% per hour is reasonable and typical. 3% over 11hrs...hmmm...I don't believe it.
I have messed with this before without positive results. But anyway, since it seems like you have it working...what is your typical % drain over 8hrs?
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I usually turn mine off overnight but if I do want it left on I turn my location settings off and everything that requires wifi and don't lose much.
I'd suggest trying better battery stats from play store then after leaving your phone off overnight dump your results (in settings) and then go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 to ask about your results
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I bought this phone in September and m very disappointed...my huge problem is the battery life which is awful...i can't compare it to any other phone that i had before ... it sucks...is there any way to make it last longer ?custom kernel ?anything ?Never had a phone that bad (
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I bought this phone in September and m very disappointed...my huge problem is the battery life which is awful...i can't compare it to any other phone that i had before ... it sucks...is there any way to make it last longer ?custom kernel ?anything ?Never had a phone that bad (
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Auto brightness, turn it on. NFC, Bluetooth turn it off. I always suggest that users turn on extended standby mode but some people want their whatsapp or email to come through instantly all the time which I can understand but it's a real life saver for me, I personally don't have a massive issue with my battery, lasts a whole day, sometimes less if I use the phone heavily.
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Auto brightness, turn it on. NFC, Bluetooth turn it off. I always suggest that users turn on extended standby mode but some people want their whatsapp or email to come through instantly all the time which I can understand but it's a real life saver for me, I personally don't have a massive issue with my battery, lasts a whole day, sometimes less if I use the phone heavily.
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The autobrightness is on, and nfc and bluetooth are always off (since i don't use em)...I need my e-mails, and Whatsapp is not even installed on my phone..turning 3g off or enabling the extended standby mode is like ... hmmm, i carry a 4 inch useless device around ... (
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The autobrightness is on, and nfc and bluetooth are always off (since i don't use em)...I need my e-mails, and Whatsapp is not even installed on my phone..turning 3g off or enabling the extended standby mode is like ... hmmm, i carry a 4 inch useless device around ... (
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Your emails would come as soon as you turned on your device anyway could you screenshot your battery usage please?
i don't know how to take screenshots
i understand that the e-mails arrive as soon as i turn the phone on, but this is not ok...it will become a habit to look at the phone ....
Very easy to do, hold volume down and the power button
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I think there is also a problem with reading the actual battery level (hopefully not hardware). The other day mine dropped from 15% to 0% in 10 seconds. This has happened a few times before when the battery gets around that level.
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I think there is also a problem with reading the actual battery level (hopefully not hardware). The other day mine dropped from 15% to 0% in 10 seconds. This has happened a few times before when the battery gets around that level.
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happened to me too...i was looking at the phone because i heard the battery notice, and than, paaaf, turned off .... i guess i'll unpack my old iPhone 4 which is already packed to be soled on ebay...
Try disconnecting your battery then, hold power button and volume up till you feel 3 buzzes
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Switch of the rotation sensor.. I read it somewhere I dun remember.. No prblm giving it a shot
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Tried calibrating the battery?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en
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Tried calibrating the battery?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en
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i have to root the device and to be honest, i am sick of it ...
attached screenshots...bare in mind that 3 hours the phone was on 2G and the display was as dark as possible (unable to see anything in the day light)
You could use clockwork recovery to erase the battery stats as well. I don't think you need root for it.
You charge to 100%, reboot into recovery erase battery stats, unplug and boot normal. After that you let it drain on its own until dead.
I've read that sometimes it worked after the second calibration or something but i believe it might be user error.
I erase the stats every time I flash a new rom. ...
I am now on 2.3.7. ... Maybe is better
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You could use clockwork recovery to erase the battery stats as well. I don't think you need root for it.
You charge to 100%, reboot into recovery erase battery stats, unplug and boot normal. After that you let it drain on its own until dead.
I've read that sometimes it worked after the second calibration or something but i believe it might be user error.
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Battery stats doesn't do anything: http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
That is, it essentially holds the information displayed in the Settings > Battery screen. Nothing more, nothing less. Thus:
It has no impact on the current battery level shown to you.
It has no impact on your battery life.
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I would advise you to update your phone to the latest firmware, it has better battery management... If you are rooted, you can try custom kernel like ThP or Sliding_XP and custom Rom based on stock... I used to get only 10-12 hours of battery life in 2.3.7 before rooting.. The steps I took to improve battery life are:
1) Root the phone, add init.d and build.prop tweaks or install a Rom that has tweaks like Brain_ICS or XPT's Vision Roms.
2) Use any custom kernel based on stock that are tweaked to give better performance and battery life, along with above Roms
3) Switch off WiFi, Bluetooth, NFC when not in use. Or better, use NFC tags to switch settings (like WiFi on only at home, Bluetooth on only in car)
4) Keep the brightness to the minimum setting when indoors and keep it in auto brightness when outdoors.
5) I live in an area which has better 2g coverage. In network settings, if you set the network mode to select only gsm, battery life vastly improves as there is no searching and switching for a 3g connection. Also I find that staying in 2g gives better network clarity. I shift to 3g when I require high speed browsing only.
6) I usually keep data connected with auto sync on and extended standby mode on. If you switch off extended standby off, you can last through the day but only if you reduce the amount of apps syncing and the polling time of each app. In my case, I have switched off syncing for Twitter, facebook, Google+ etc and sync only for Google contacts, calender and Gmail.
7) I also have automated the phone to switch to airplane mode from midnight to early morning.
By the time I get home from work, I have at least 40% battery remaining. On the whole, I get 22hours on average and I have got 1day 12 hours maximum from my Xperia P. And happy with my choice.
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Forgot two things:
I keep all location services switched off and turn it on only when required. This prevents the Map app from unnecessarily polling for location and helps save battery.
And sorry for such a long post. There won't be a tldr.
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Just had this weird experience, battery was on 1 percent then I rebooted my phone using power button and volume up, then my battery shot up to 28 percent
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that was android normal problem....thats why developer making phone by using high capacity battery (motorola razr maxx) . By using 3000mAh battery also just give certain phone for 2 days (using galaxy note 2). Android jelly bean suck battery juice faster because of its f***** project butter (uses cpu and gpu at the same time). Now phone developer starts frustrated on android...hehe (from my speculation)
Android problem how?
Almost all smartphones last about 1 day. Don't blame the Operating System it's the same battery life in all smartphones. Blame the battery technology.
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Android problem how?
Almost all smartphones last about 1 day. Don't blame the Operating System it's the same battery life in all smartphones. Blame the battery technology.
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one day means 24 hours...24 hours means more than i need .... i only get 10hrs if i don't touch the device...used, i get like 5 hrs .... anyways, thanks for your feedback...
PS: Xperia P, Red, for sale - 2 months old