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Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
No issue so far, use for about 4 hours a day for conference calls and then pandora/slacker or doubletwist for 2-3 hours more. Using Samsung sbh600 bluetooth.
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I use A2DP stereo streaming to two different devices (car and supertooth disco) and it sound excellent! Much better than my old evo and just as good as the nexus S I had for a while.
If you are using wifi for the connection to Pandora, try switching to 3G or 4G. Wifi and bluetooth can interfere with each other as they use the same frequency. I haven't had any issues, but have seen it before with other devices.
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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I noticed the same thing today streaming to my kenwood unit. My droid X had flawless sound, this was exactly as you described. Any fix yet?
One thing I noticed, my X had a check box for an enhanced bluetooth audio quality....not sure if that made a difference or not.
Been using the phone in my car with my alpine deck without issue. I have the add-on bluetooth from alpine and it works really good with the phone. Randomly the music cuts out for a second but my old blackberry did the same thing, and so did my iPod Touch (2nd gen).
Shutting off the wifi on the phone isn't a bad idea... might give that a shot to see if that helps your issue? My blackberry would randomly distort the music. I would close pandora and do a battery pull then it would usually be back to "normal".
I have the same issue with my Clarion deck. Of course...I've somewhat convinced myself the speakers are a bit blown...but it's worse on BT than wired. From what I've been able to read there is a "bitpool" setting which controls the quality, and by default it's pretty low in the 30's, while it can go up to the 50's and the sound quality is noticeably different. CM fixes this from what I've read, but that's all. Apparently Blackberry has a higher setting by default, and each manufacturer can set their's different.
I'm hoping that a combination of new speakers and CM7 will remedy my issue.
interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
DigitalSileR said:
interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
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mine is updated to their most current firmware. I'm more inclined to think it's a bad bluetooth stack like weiln12 mentions above. gonna try it out with my friends thunderbolt tonight and see if it is the same.
I also have a clarion deck and find the bluetooth audio quality to be horrific. I find it hard to believe that it's the head unit at fault since my old Droid1 sounded perfectly fine.
Is anyone aware of any roms or kernels that have a higher bitpool setting?
I haven't found any yet. I'm hoping when we see CM7 things will be better.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
I have a Motorola S305 headset that works very well with music (slacker, amazon mp3, and pandora). However, my bluetooth Samsung WEP570 sounds so bad, crackled, and quiet (even on max volume) that I don't even use it anymore for calls.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
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How is your call quality on the Ford sync? Specifically the incoming call volume.
I'm streaming Pandora to a MOTO roadster, then over fm to stereo, sounds great, no loss on the bass end either.
Have you tried another bt device?
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I personally have tried a few and have problems. However, I've tried multiple thunderbolts and they all sound the same on my kenwood. I've definitely read about HTC using less than stellar bluetooth on their units before, so I am assuming that is the case here. I guess it just works ok with some and not with others. Testing my X on the same kenwood unit I have and it's crystal clear with no distortion.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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Amen. You just summed up the situation perfectly. I forgot the X has the check box for high quality BT audio, that could very well be what makes it better. I'm going to check it out tonight w/o that checked and see how it fares. Not sure why HTC wouldn't have an option like that.
Just found a post here that seems very related. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708685
Apparently CM uses an open source BT stack that has good settings to use the higher bitpool but HTC chooses the Broadcom stack that utilizes a much lower bitpool as stated above. They don't seem to have a way to raise this value though....
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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i've had no issues. I use Pandora w/ high quality audio over BT into my Ford Sync system.
Sounds great. Somewhere between satellite radio and MP3 player SNR ratio.
Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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I had that problem but it turned out to just be a volume issue, BT vol was set way higher...
Again, Streaming pandora to Motorola Roaster, which in turn broadcasts FM to my car stereo. It sounds fantastic.
so i just got my htc rezound like 2 days ago and so far its wonderful (coming from a droid razr). the only stipulation im having is streaming audio via bluetooth to my car's stereo system (ford fusion with sync system). it sounds really crappy using the standard player htc gives you, but if you switch to amazon mp3's player it sounds good except for certain pitches and frequencies sound like crap. it almost sounds like crackling but not quite. gives it good bass back tho. so is there a way to fix this? i did unlock my phone like 4 hrs after getting it from the fedex guy. is there anything i can do to it go improve on the audio quality or is this gonna be a "wait for ICS and see" kinda deal?
Try PowerAmp or install a rom with DSP so you can tweak the audio settings.
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Try PowerAmp or install a rom with DSP so you can tweak the audio settings.
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k will give it a shot later tonight when i leave for work. i honestly dont think it has anything to do with the eq but i'll try it. i think its something with the bluetooth radio thats built in....maybe its just a crappy design idk.
any other ideas in the mean time? or anyone else having the same issue?
Never heard of this problem with differences between players.
Stream all day with my phone and only problems are with ICS not GB.
I have a Ford Focus (with sync) and mine sounds pretty good, but not as good as when I had full time beats on my EVO3D. They only thing I do is turn the volume up on the phone while its playing through the speakers. I do this but using the volume rocker on the side during playback. Its not as good as a CD but not too bad either. Tried to get the guy that fixed it on the 3D to look at the Rezound but he never responded to my PM. I have played with DSP Manager and you can get some improvement. Also other EQs exist in the market that can improve the quality.
<3 ford focus, are you saying it just lacks an equalizer's touch or does it crackle? =o
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I use the MotoROKR T505 for my car. Bluetooth stereo music over the car speakers is never a problem, regardless of using stock player, meridian, or poweramp.
Zone is right. Turn the volume all the way up. It took me awhile to figure this out. I think its radio interference that you're hearing.
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well i tried poweramp from the market and it made some improvement...but still not as crisp as i'd like. it seems like with some of the higher frequencies over bluetooth it kind of mashes them together sort of. idk but coming from a droid razr i can definitely tell a difference. that phone was amazing when it came to audio quality over bluetooth. for now i guess i'll try to rig up the usb cord so my sync system can read the files from my phone or either buy a cheep aux input cord for my ford....until ICS is released....hopefully they made some type of improvement.
edit: i always have the volume maxed out via the rocker on the side....learned that day 1 of having an ipod long ago lol. the droid razr definitely puts out cd quality audio over bluetooth and i was kind of expecting this phone to do the same or better, not sub-par performance.
I wonder if that is the razr's 4.0 bluetooth that provided so
Hey everyone,
So I usually use my cars built-in Bluetooth system for calls as well as music. Since I switched to the GSIII i have had terrible phone audio over my cars speakers. The audio will be perfectly clear for a couple seconds then fade to almost nothing for another 2, then clear again, this just keeps going on and on. I end up missing half of what was said. The music audio, however, has been perfect, better quality than my old phone even.
I never had any issues with my old Atrix, the audio was always consistent, same car and settings.
To those who managed to get the phone early like me, how has your experience been with bluetooth phone calls?
I 've been using it in the car since the past week and it has been pretty smooth for me. The audio and signal are both perfect.
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Hey all,
I just switched over to the Evo 4G LTE from my trusty old Photon. In my experience, the audio over bluetooth is much worse in terms of clarity. I had no problems pairing with my car's bluetooth system, but I can't say how poor my calls have been in comparison to my old photon, and even my AT&T iPhone.
What is everyone else's experience?
htc does sometimes slack with their bluetooth stacks but I don't really have any experience with it through a car stereos. Have you noticed any difference in call quality using the phone normally?
Well I've played music in my car and it sounds excellent. Calls sound ok, i may say not the best but its not bad quality. I even have a Bluetooth keyboard with touchpad at the same time and no issues at all.
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Much better than the garbage they had for sense 3.x, but still not as good as the bt in cyanogenmod
My experience is just in regular phone calls. I've used the Photon for the past year. I won't say it's reception is better, but it definitely sounds better over BT than the Evo 4g LTE. Calls in the car are quite important to me, so, that could be a dealbreaker.
BT calls on my visor mounted speaker are clear as can be...and I wear hearing aids so when sound quality sucks, I know it quickly.
Something is wrong with bluetooth!!
Coming from the og evo never had an issue with the bluetooth in the car or any other device I connect to now with the lte evo it's choppy for the first 30 sec to a min of connection and then during playback it randomly chops almost as if it was buffering or something. Any ideas?
No issue here. Connected to SYNC in my car. Music, nav voice, and calls are clear. Imo better quality than the 3vo. Even noticed beats works for nav and music. Very happy. Less issues with voice commands via sync too
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Coming from the og evo never had an issue with the bluetooth in the car or any other device I connect to now with the lte evo it's choppy for the first 30 sec to a min of connection and then during playback it randomly chops almost as if it was buffering or something. Any ideas?
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I'm getting this too and it's very frustrating. Anyone else?
No issues with BT
One thing that greatly improves the BT sound.....turn the phone's BT volume up about 1/2 way.... It does sound sub-par when I have it up too high.
Full firmware update + new base fixed my problem. I believe it was the firmware, though.
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So.. I bought the DNA today and am severely regretting this decision.. Wondering if anyone has experienced the same issue?
I have a Jaybird BlueBuds X bluetooth headphones. Compared to a lot of others, they have an amazing sound quality.. at least they had an amazing sound quality. When they were connected to my Galaxy S3 (running CM10.1 in the interest of full disclosure), they sounded as if they were hard-wired - no distortion, no buzzing, perfect sound quality.
I paired them with my new DNA, hoping for the same audio quality (and then some, due to famed Beats Audio) and... didn't get it.
So the problem I'm running into here is that they now sound like a pair of cheap, 10$ bluetooth headphones - the sound is distorted, there is crackling noise in the background, the music sounds like as if it's 64 kbps - barely usable, very unpleasant. As soon as I pair it back to my old S3, the sound comes back to life.
I've read the forums and understand that the OTA pushed out an update with some bluetooth fix.. I have the OTA (got it that way), so my phone is already running the supposed sound fix.
Has anyone experienced same problem? Especially with higher-end BT headphones? (Jaybirds, Sennheissers etc) Really like the phone, have been an HTC fan since WinMo days, but I simply cannot tolerate this BT flaw... Does it have to do with the BT chip that DNA has, or is it the BT stack/driver on this one?
++> On a side note - sound quality over wire is great.. so this a bluetooth only issue. The issue (noise) is more pronounced on higher frequencies..
I don't have BT headphones, but do have a Sony Xplod CD deck in my wife's Honda & pairing any of my HTC phones via BT sounds so horrible. However, I did get the HTC Steroclip for my Sony Xplod CD deck without BT in my truck & it sounds great. What gives? Was wondering if it might be the same issue as with the headphones.
I am running Creative 350's with apt-x codec and they sound great. I would find a set of headphones with apt-x. You won't be disappointed.
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I am running Creative 350's with apt-x codec and they sound great. I would find a set of headphones with apt-x. You won't be disappointed.
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Well, quite honestly, when i first started researching bt headphones for exercising there has not been a single pair that garnered the amount of positive reviews as the bluebuds.. plus they did sound amazing on s3. I did look for aptx - s3 uses it, but no workout headphones that had aptx had good reviews in terms of build quality etc.
I do wonder tho...
On dev.android under the about Android 4.2 JB it does mention that it got a new BT stack developed, replacing current BlueZ as well as updated low-latency audio.. maybe the new stack does indeed improve quality.
im going to flash the s3 with stock 4.1 and see how it sounds and then try a couple of variations of aosp stuff and report back..
Ps. I also found a mention of how s3 uses a2dp edr natively, whereas dna is using aptx... Its going to suck if this is truly a hardware issue...
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I don't have BT headphones, but do have a Sony Xplod CD deck in my wife's Honda & pairing any of my HTC phones via BT sounds so horrible. However, I did get the HTC Steroclip for my Sony Xplod CD deck without BT in my truck & it sounds great. What gives? Was wondering if it might be the same issue as with the headphones.
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I think Stereoclip has aptx.
So I flashed S3 back to Stock VRALF2, 4.0.x ICS, and played a couple of songs and still was getting crystal clear quality.. So it has to be the BT implementation in DNA.. Sad. Anyone has any insight into why/what could be the root cause? BT chip? DAC chip?
Thanks
If it helps any, Bluetooth audio sounds great in my 2012 Sonata.
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Do you know if the radio in your Sonata supports aptX?
Shoot I'm not even sure what that is. It sounds pretty much the same as when I have it plugged in tho.
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I use blue tooth in my car all the time and also over the blue tooth streamer for my receiver at home.
Sounds crystal clear and I have very nice speakers in both the car and at home.
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Is codec support built into blutooth or can codecs be added/modified. If so its a non issue. I would help with codec support if I were rooted
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Same issue. I streamed music from the same Google Music account, on both my Rezound and DNA, to the same receiver (2010 Infinity G37S).
DNA audio quality is noticeably bad. Especially in mid and high range. It sounds like very low bitrate audio, and/or very lossy compression. The Rezound audio quality over BT is nearly the same as wired.
I suspect HTC has deliberately chose to use a low bitpool value for A2DP w/ the stock Sense ROM. DNA now supports atpX. So, they gimped A2DP stream, with the goal being to sell more of their Bluetooth Stereo Clip product, that support atpX.
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Same issue. I streamed music from the same Google Music account, on both my Rezound and DNA, to the same receiver (2010 Infinity G37S).
DNA audio quality is noticeably bad. Especially in mid and high range. It sounds like very low bitrate audio, and/or very lossy compression. The Rezound audio quality over BT is nearly the same as wired.
I suspect HTC has deliberately chose to use a low bitpool value for A2DP w/ the stock Sense ROM. DNA now supports atpX. So, they gimped A2DP stream, with the goal being to sell more of their Bluetooth Stereo Clip product, that support atpX.
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If that's really the case.. shame HTC. My m25 ear piece supports aptx and sounds great playing music. In one ear...
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Jaybird + dna
I have a set of jaybird freedom's myself and have had no issues with bluetooth, beats audio or audio quality. One thing i have seen though is that some roms do not handle beats over bluetooth very well. The other thing you probably should look at is to make sure that it is pairing as a stereo audio device and not a mono audio device.
+1 for horrible quality here. I use these LG blue tooth ear buds and they just sound terrible. sounded fine on my gs3...and I used one of those jbl stereo boxes and it's awful.. and again fine on the gs3. sucks.
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I have a set of Sony bt headphones (bought on amazon a while back for around $40 way before DNA I had Bionic back then) that sound very good I also stream via HTC BT dongle to my Sony xplod in car with with Fosgates all around music sounds GREAT I can really tell the difference when Beats is off even more so when I flash Awesome Beats...I also noticed a setting the other day on my Sony deck for AUX VOL while messing with sub output I turned the AUX volume up now I'm really bumping hahaha
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DNA Sound Quality
I hope you haven't given up entirely on your DNA since your post because there are some options you can explore.
Did you try turning off "Beats Audio" in your settings? I purchased the Power Amp music player update and Power Amp and Beats Audio don't work well together. In my experience, the standard Music player that comes with your phone works best with Beats. Other music players may also have the same problem. Second question, did your problem go away with the latest update to Jelly Bean 4.2.2?
Good Luck,
tijayz said:
So.. I bought the DNA today and am severely regretting this decision.. Wondering if anyone has experienced the same issue?
I have a Jaybird BlueBuds X bluetooth headphones. Compared to a lot of others, they have an amazing sound quality.. at least they had an amazing sound quality. When they were connected to my Galaxy S3 (running CM10.1 in the interest of full disclosure), they sounded as if they were hard-wired - no distortion, no buzzing, perfect sound quality.
I paired them with my new DNA, hoping for the same audio quality (and then some, due to famed Beats Audio) and... didn't get it.
So the problem I'm running into here is that they now sound like a pair of cheap, 10$ bluetooth headphones - the sound is distorted, there is crackling noise in the background, the music sounds like as if it's 64 kbps - barely usable, very unpleasant. As soon as I pair it back to my old S3, the sound comes back to life.
I've read the forums and understand that the OTA pushed out an update with some bluetooth fix.. I have the OTA (got it that way), so my phone is already running the supposed sound fix.
Has anyone experienced same problem? Especially with higher-end BT headphones? (Jaybirds, Sennheissers etc) Really like the phone, have been an HTC fan since WinMo days, but I simply cannot tolerate this BT flaw... Does it have to do with the BT chip that DNA has, or is it the BT stack/driver on this one?
++> On a side note - sound quality over wire is great.. so this a bluetooth only issue. The issue (noise) is more pronounced on higher frequencies..
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