Good afternoon guys
I know probably this will be a pushy question but I will really like to know some information about what could we been expecting now with this new 4.1 update for I717.
I was looking on the N7000 forum and there is a lots of nice roms on JB out there, any of those Dev will think on porting their roms to our device?
thanks in advance for your opinion,
I've been following this device since release because one of my friends has it. Overall I am very disappointed in what's come of development from here and most of all from AT&T. As soon as the Note 2 dropped the Note 1 died. Even the new update doesn't have Multi Window features. Nobody somehow even ported it yet? I can't find it. People ported it to the S2 S3 etc etc.
Time to upgrade to a Note 3 from the looks of it.
I asked because I don't any of the Dev pronounce any information of building or porting a rom base on the new updated. probably its me and I don't want to sound like bad but the update it there and We would like to know if there will be nice roms like they are on the N7000
thanks for your all understanding
geoldr said:
I've been following this device since release because one of my friends has it. Overall I am very disappointed in what's come of development from here and most of all from AT&T. As soon as the Note 2 dropped the Note 1 died. Even the new update doesn't have Multi Window features. Nobody somehow even ported it yet? I can't find it. People ported it to the S2 S3 etc etc.
Time to upgrade to a Note 3 from the looks of it.
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Dude its been literally 24 hours since the JB update showed up.
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Dude its been literally 24 hours since the JB update showed up.
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I second this. Chill dude. Just wait a bit...
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ZacksBuilds said:
I second this. Chill dude. Just wait a bit...
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And i thrice this !!!!! yeah thrice is real .....and there isnt another cool way to say anthing past 3 so dont do it ! ITS ONLY BEEN 24HRS :laugh:
shayneflashindaily said:
And i thrice this !!!!! yeah thrice is real .....and there isnt another cool way to say anthing past 3 so dont do it ! ITS ONLY BEEN 24HRS :laugh:
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I HECTA this
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ZacksBuilds said:
I HECTA this
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nothing is as cool as thrice .......nice try ............ but to be on point ........im going to be flashing like crazy when some custom 4.1.2 arrives .....and on my other rom site......hence my screenname lol
Well guys sorry for the rush. Was just wanted to know what its on the mind of the devs at this moment. I will wait that not a problem
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There will be touchwiz roms and kernels based on the new build since there's source.
The source will be merged with aosp kernels to help make more stable aosp roms.
Thanks gor the info. I was just concern of the work of the dev now. I have better picture of it
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Too many typos........what ?
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will this be available??
is it being ported??
will it have 4.0???
sorry, but I'm an eager beaver lol
I can't wait!! I and thanks to all the devs
I wish I could learn development
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Hopefully we get it..
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Hopefully we get CM7.1 then CM9 . It will be awhile since no developer in the amaze section has a device at hand .
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It will be awhile since no developer in the amaze section has a device at hand .
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Exactly...Too soon to be waiting on roms. We have root--that is pretty dope all things considering.
i will be working my ass off to work on porting cm9 screw cm7
xBoarder CM9 will come out in a few month's remember , it'll be open source once the Galaxy Nexus come's out if we're lucky .
7.1 de for now please
I can't stand all these bloat apps
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https://plus.google.com/106544349933037831956/posts/1SMW3eVKk1d
oh sh!t!! we need to get that !!! did you see the amount of free ram? wow!!
Wow Everything is moving so fast with this device... Looks like data is broken tho but still I never seen aosp leaked on an htc device this fast...
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Mrperf3ct said:
Wow Everything is moving so fast with this device... Looks like data is broken tho but still I never seen aosp leaked on an htc device this fast...
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It's not leaked, they're building it from source just like HTC did with Sense on their phones. Data will work, at least they got CM booting so that's a plus.
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It's not leaked, they're building it from source just like HTC did with Sense on their phones. Data will work, at least they got CM booting so that's a plus.
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No its leaked to us because the devs didn't release it yet lol... What about ice cream sandwich other devices have it booting already... I would say skip CM7 and go to ics because it is cm7 just newer lol
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https://plus.google.com/106544349933037831956/posts/1SMW3eVKk1d
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no download link fails
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Mrperf3ct said:
No its leaked to us because the devs didn't release it yet lol... What about ice cream sandwich other devices have it booting already... I would say skip CM7 and go to ics because it is cm7 just newer lol
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I'm saying it's not leaked because the OP asked if it was coming or not, so that guy is working on it (G+ status link), I hope you didn't think I posted a link to an actual build lol.
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It's not available yet, it's just his status to show that he is working on it, so it will come to this device. I was just answering your original questions if it was being worked on or not.
I can't believe it man , if you don't know this device is a skinned version of AOSP .
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I'm saying it's not leaked because the OP asked if it was coming or not, so that guy is working on it (G+ status link), I hope you didn't think I posted a link to an actual build lol.
It's not available yet, it's just his status to show that he is working on it, so it will come to this device. I was just answering your original questions if it was being worked on or not.
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yeah i figured haha.. thanks you
i added that guy to my circles haha..
so i can see when it releases
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I can't believe it man , if you don't know this device is a skinned version of AOSP .
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Yes I do know it's skinned, just like TW, Blur etc : D I guess I'm reading it wrong the way he said "leaked" aosp.
dont get to excited yet but look
https://plus.google.com/u/0/100983447046094793882/posts/LpTfgDCj7R4
That would be great but from what they all said, they abandoned cm7 for the Amaze for cm9. I'm sure they could use your help either way.
just gonna work on it my self and get it working without them
Hello all.
Been reading through the development posts and can't find a stable ROM jb with s-pen apps.
I mean really jb for the note.
Is there such a thing?
Reason s-pen and not Papyrus is I have a Wacom Cross pen and have gotten used to the eraser which only the s-pen utilities seem to work with.
Thanks for tolerating this newbie.
Steve
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Honeybadger said:
I mean really jb for the note.
Is there such a thing?
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Stock Samsung apps won't be on jb unless Samsung release a jb ROM. All the jb ROMs are aosp based liked cm.
Some apps may work with that pen eraser though, don't have one to test.
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Not sure if it works or not but have you checked out "memo beta"
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Yes memo beta was exactly what I needed!
Thank you!
Now which is the best JB ROM, stable with decent utilities like K9 mail?
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Sigh
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Sigh
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Really dude what do you solve by "sighing" ? Sorry we're not all geniuses like you..
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Sharky157 said:
Really dude what do you solve by "sighing" ? Sorry we're not all geniuses like you..
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he is the community sarcastic !!! he is what i want to be when i grow up. i will have to try the memo beta.. but jellybean and smemo might be a while ,they have to work things out..but from what i have read if samsung/google does not release official jellybean(for the note, it MAY not happen, but you never know, the devs on xda are bad ass!!!
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Really dude what do you solve by "sighing" ? Sorry we're not all geniuses like you..
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Oh I'm no genius. My smarts about things that pertain to this site however come from reading and searching and learning. Which, oh my, happens to be the golden rule of this site! Imagine that.
I didn't mean my post to cause strife.
I just need a stable ROM because I use my phone for work so I can figured some of you might have real world experience.
I didn't see a post or survey that listed JB and stability.
Thanks all and sorry for even asking.
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No strife homey .. if you need to ask anything just PM me some people forget that we all have to start somewhere .. you might be the able to take any help that you received and help the next person .. I've been the noob ... I still am sometimes.. keep reading asking learning ... happy flashing and good luck my friend
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If you want a stable non stock ROM go with cm9 official. If you're more adventurous try one of the three JB ROMs.
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Thanks for the advice.
Isn't CM9 ICD?
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Honeybadger said:
Thanks for the advice.
Isn't CM9 ICD?
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CM9 is ICS
Honeybadger said:
I didn't mean my post to cause strife.
I just need a stable ROM because I use my phone for work so I can figured some of you might have real world experience.
I didn't see a post or survey that listed JB and stability.
Thanks all and sorry for even asking.
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JB is very buggy/beta at the moment... i've tried them all but i always go back to AOKP ... Never any issues - Smooth as butter!
Cheers
Somebody please tell me that you are working on this unofficial ROM?
???????????
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megaman77 said:
Somebody please tell me that you are working on this unofficial ROM?
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Guess we will just have to wait and see if a dev would like to port this over and bless us with some GN2 goodies. But its not a simple process. Its extremely time consuming and he dev would REALLY wanna take time out of their lives to do us this favor. Although, i gotta admit, im hoping to see this too.
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Guess we will just have to wait and see if a dev would like to port this over and bless us with some GN2 goodies. But its not a simple process. Its extremely time consuming and he dev would REALLY wanna take time out of their lives to do us this favor. Although, i gotta admit, im hoping to see this too.
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I have a lot of patience when it comes to my GN1, and the great dev teams out there, excellent job by the way! I hope it happens before the GN2 arrives so I can save some money lol.
Are we talking about this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875311?
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amhatter said:
Are we talking about this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875311?
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Why yes! Yes, i believe the OP was very much talking about this! Thank you BTW! You just made my day
graveghoul said:
Why yes! Yes, i believe the OP was very much talking about this! Thank you BTW! You just made my day
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Will this work with the i717?
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graveghoul said:
Why yes! Yes, i believe the OP was very much talking about this! Thank you BTW! You just made my day
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Your very welcome
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Will this work with the i717?
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I dont believe so because if you read the description its states its for a different model of phone...which would be the Galaxy Note 2. Its just the Oiginal rom. Hasnt been ported over to our phones ....yet. Unless im reading it wrong.
graveghoul said:
I dont believe so because if you read the description its states its for a different model of phone...which would be the Galaxy Note 2. Its just the Oiginal rom. Hasnt been ported over to our phones ....yet. Unless im reading it wrong.
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Just making sure
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i don't want the note two
I really really don't want to upgrade to the note2, I hate physical home buttons( I've had very bad experiences with it) all i want is the rom and its new goodies and hope that it plays nice with the blaze radios to keep using my baby on simple mobile.
XDA is no longer worth my time.
I'm with you, i would really love to get that dual window mode on my original note. Especially since just getting the gn2 isn't really an option for me.
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Been away from here for a while. Life just got in the way. Picked up a GN1 here a few months ago. Ill be watching this thread closely. Would like to see some of the features of the GN2 ported over to the GN1.
I would love to get multi window on my note... Anybody have ideas?
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Not looking good for the note 1 to get note 2 goodies! Note 2?
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Port fron GN2 to GN1 is NOT going to happen anytime soon.
Where to begin. Even if they were porting the GN2 rom to the GN1, it would be the international GN1, NOT the US version, and the US version has completely different hardware, than the international one. ALL new Samsung phones are using all new hardware compared to the US GN1. There is no way those ROM's will make it over to our i717. the hardware is just too different. Because the US GN1 has LTE, they used the Qualcomm S3 SOC, and this was US only. The rest of the world used either the newer Qualcomm S4, or the Samsung SOC. The Note 2 uses Exynos (sp?) quadcore SOC radically different than our Note 1's.
You can forget about any Note 2 ports to the Note 1. Ports have been from like hardware, to like hardware, for example the AT&T Galaxy Skyrocket has basically the same internals, as our Note 1, and there have been ports that way. The Note used pretty much the last of those SOC's.
There is always the chance that Samsung will come out with an Official JB port for our phone.
I think you are correct, updates with gnote 2 goodies are very unlikely. Time to save up for a gnote 2!
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Or wait for the Galaxy S4
dadymon53 said:
I think you are correct, updates with gnote 2 goodies are very unlikely. Time to save up for a gnote 2!
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I have seen a review fire a ROM on the international note that did have multi-window working. I don't remember the specific build but iT sure looked like a nice feature.
I don't know anything about developing software for phones but why would it be hard for a Dev to add in that functionality?
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Psychos R' Us presents:
Psycho CM10 N1106
This ROM is based off of the CyanogenMod 10 Nightly build 11-04
It has been modified slightly with a few apps and tweaks. Inverted gapps (built in, no need to flash gapps) and certain system apps.
I will be updating the rom as I can, working out bugs and updating apps.
Any feature or integrated app requests PM me and I'll see what I can do for you.
Any devs that want to join the team are more than welcome to, just PM me or DKStunna108 and tell us what you can do to improve the ROM(s) we build.
Special thanks go to:
DKStunna108
CyanogenMod
Dsixda
Aeroevan
Firetop
Nitsuj17
Team BAKED
And anyone else that contributed to the developments of Team Psychos R' Us
Enjoy the ROM
Release 5: http://d-h.st/m1S
I've been waiting for a new ROM. Looking forward to flashing.
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pma7779 said:
I've been waiting for a new ROM. Looking forward to flashing.
I hope it works as good as it does on Galaxy Nexus. I am not very good at porting but I try
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Tester here downloading now what happened to screenies
Fascinating AOKP Jelly Bean 4.1.2
Kaptinkrunk said:
Tester here downloading now what happened to screenies
Fascinating AOKP Jelly Bean 4.1.2
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I can't post screenshots if I don't have the phone lol. I have it running on my Nexus but that's not proof it works on this device
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Kaptinkrunk said:
Tester here downloading now what happened to screenies
Fascinating AOKP Jelly Bean 4.1.2
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Get it Kap lol Knew a new ROM would excite you :beer:
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I keep getting Status 7 error when I try flashing. I've tried another download but still no dice. I'm coming from CM10
Toddw said:
I keep getting Status 7 error when I try flashing. I've tried another download but still no dice. I'm coming from CM10
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Alright I'll have to try something else to get it working. I just have issues porting still.
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I'm building the next one now. This time I didn't port, just did the modifications to CM10 nightly 10-14. Hopefully that fixes the problem. Uploading in a couple minutes
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New build is up
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LiquidSmokeX64 said:
I can't post screenshots if I don't have the phone lol. I have it running on my Nexus but that's not proof it works on this device
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Lol ya I got error 7 downloading the new build asap drinking right now barely any service
I'm always down for testing its my dd I test on, no better way I think lol, let me know what screenies to take and I'll shoot them your way, if you want an install video let me know
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Lol ya I got error 7 downloading the new build asap drinking right now barely any service
I'm always down for testing its my dd I test on, no better way I think lol, let me know what screenies to take and I'll shoot them your way, if you want an install video let me know
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Glad to hear we got a tester for Fascinate. I think a lockscreen shot, desktop shot, about phone shot and app drawer shot would due just fine.
I'm kinda branching away with this device but I know how buggy it is stock cause some of my friends have it so I had to try to make something nice to at least try to make it nicer
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LiquidSmokeX64 said:
Glad to hear we got a tester for Fascinate. I think a lockscreen shot, desktop shot, about phone shot and app drawer shot would due just fine.
I'm kinda branching away with this device but I know how buggy it is stock cause some of my friends have it so I had to try to make something nice to at least try to make it nicer
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hey, if needed ill test as well, im down for it
ztotherad said:
hey, if needed ill test as well, im down for it
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Sweet, any help is welcomed
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Sweet, any help is welcomed
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im downloading the rom as we speak quick question, what other phones this ROM run on?
ztotherad said:
im downloading the rom as we speak quick question, what other phones this ROM run on?
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Its on Galaxy Nexus and Incredible 2 but the incredible 2 one is a little different cause I wasn't the one to build that one
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LiquidSmokeX64 said:
Glad to hear we got a tester for Fascinate. I think a lockscreen shot, desktop shot, about phone shot and app drawer shot would due just fine.
I'm kinda branching away with this device but I know how buggy it is stock cause some of my friends have it so I had to try to make something nice to at least try to make it nicer
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Ya stock blows lol I'm pretty common in the fassy forum here lol
There are a lot of non stock ROM most are working fine lol
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Its on Galaxy Nexus and Incredible 2 but the incredible 2 one is a little different cause I wasn't the one to build that one
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haha, yeah, i saw on the gnex forums that you were there
Not any problems yet will test more in the morn
Fascinating Psycho CM10 N1014...
its running amazing here. loaded the devil kernel & it's running with it quite well! i removed most/the apps i didnt use/need on the rom & still running like a freakin' champ!
i wish more devs were willing to port over their roms to the fascinate from the gsm sgs family! but im glad we have our amazing devs here, so thank you all!
PLZ MEKE MIUI ROM FOR SAMSUNG GALAXY MEGA 6.3 AS i used it on s2.. but now i own new mobile....
i love to see it on mega6.3.. plz plz plz
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PLZ MEKE MIUI ROM FOR SAMSUNG GALAXY MEGA 6.3 AS i used it on s2.. but now i own new mobile....
i love to see it on mega6.3.. plz plz plz
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I'm now being without real hope of any cool ROM anytime soon on the Mega...
Don't hold your breath!
Wish I could give it a shot but I would just end up breaking my phone, haha
kipue said:
I'm now being without real hope of any cool ROM anytime soon on the Mega...
Don't hold your breath!
Wish I could give it a shot but I would just end up breaking my phone, haha
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i t means.. MIUI coming for MEGA 6.3????
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i t means.. MIUI coming for MEGA 6.3????
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It means no
kipue said:
I'm now being without real hope of any cool ROM anytime soon on the Mega...
Don't hold your breath!
Wish I could give it a shot but I would just end up breaking my phone, haha
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Cheer up, buddy. Some of us don't even have root access as of yet.
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Jamio1988 said:
Cheer up, buddy. Some of us don't even have root access as of yet.
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Haha, I know
Thankfuly the Mega is enjoyable stock, but damn the flashing finger is itchy. I knew it would't be fast, but it is starting to be a little worrying.
I'm even flashing stuff on the wife's Note 2 to get the taste of it, haha
Sad
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Haha, I know
Thankfuly the Mega is enjoyable stock, but damn the flashing finger is itchy. I knew it would't be fast, but it is starting to be a little worrying.
I'm even flashing stuff on the wife's Note 2 to get the taste of it, haha
Sad
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plz... make miui rom
Will need a CM or an AOSP of some sort before being able to port MIUI.
So will have to wait
Dont do anything to sprint mega not yet! Cause this one is much very diffrent from orher mega bec of newer lte with spark feature just wait till correct boot.img is created and asop is done
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Now we have cynogenMod rom..
Plz check & make Miui for galaxy Mega 6.3.
Plz
Plzzzzzzzzzzzz
Plzzzzzzzzzzzz
kipue said:
Will need a CM or an AOSP of some sort before being able to port MIUI.
So will have to wait
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kipue said:
Will need a CM or an AOSP of some sort before being able to port MIUI.
So will have to wait
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Miui doesn't require cm as base
You can also use touchwiz
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Grarak said:
Miui doesn't require cm as base
You can also use touchwiz
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And touchwiz base is better imo from experience.
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Grarak said:
Miui doesn't require cm as base
You can also use touchwiz
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Yes, that's what I thought too, but when this thread appeared first, I checked on the miui english community, and that was the answer given there.
Maybe the answer meant that for MIUI to be developped officialy for a device, then CM was required?
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Yes, that's what I thought too, but when this thread appeared first, I checked on the miui english community, and that was the answer given there.
Maybe the answer meant that for MIUI to be developped officialy for a device, then CM was required?
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Miui Team always uses stock rom as base
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OK, my bad then
My info must have been wrong
Very early MIUI KK appeared
Woot, looks really good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2683206
Look like it is for now based on a version made for the N7 2013, so no RIL for phones, but it really looks great ^^