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Let me first state my situation.
I am in a contract with unlimited data on Verizon with my galaxy nexus.
Despite not wanting to have a contract with two providers, I wanted the galaxy note so badly, I got the note on AT&T with a so so contract (3 gb data, unlimited texting, 450 minutes).
I live in Seattle so there is no LTE here.
I am worried that a superior phone will come out soon (SG III) or perhaps a quad core note and then I will be stuck in two contracts without many options.
So I can either take back my note and get the AT&T version and go with Straightsim and save a good chunk of money ($100/month on AT&T vs $45/month on Straighttalk). In Seattle, straight talk uses AT&T's network so I think my service will be about the same except I will have unlimited data/minutes/texting.
Or, I can take back my Note and get the international version and put it on Straighttalk.
Or, I can stay put.
If I buy a note off contract, I will have the option to get the Samsung Galaxy S III or Note II when it comes out (on Verizon or AT&T)...
Kind of think that getting into a contract for a phone without LTE speeds seems a bit absurd.
Also, the international version has more developers (for now) and a better cpu.
What do you guys think? If I wasn't in another contract on Verizon, I'd just stay put and hope that LTE comes to Seattle this summer.
I read that the Note will come out on VZW if you can wait.
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I read that the Note will come out on VZW if you can wait.
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I thought about that. One thing I forgot to mention is that for some reason at the office, my galaxy nexus (and before that, Galaxy S) get's terrible reception unless I am near a window.
AT&T customers at work get reception even in conference rooms in the middle of the building, so I was hoping that my AT&T note would as well (which it does).
I just don't like being cut off for 8 hours a day from calls and texts.
I guess since life isn't all flowers and unicorns, my verizon has great data speed (LTE) but my AT&T can actually make calls....lol
Guess it would be too much to have it all in one phone
I had the same problem with Verizon. Loved the LTE speed when I had reception but for 10 hours a day at work I was lucky to keep 1 bar of 3G. I got fed up and went back to AT&T. I do have LTE here in Phoenix so switching was easier. Though I did lose unlimited data on VZW, I'm much happier with AT&T, this Note, and their LTE is way faster right now.
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Who cares what phone is released. No difference between them in WA since there is not att lte and the note doesn't support vzn lte.
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I'm buying one today from ATT. Was gonna get the international however, being my area is getting LTE in June the ATT version makes sense.
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Let me first state my situation.
I am in a contract with unlimited data on Verizon with my galaxy nexus.
Despite not wanting to have a contract with two providers, I wanted the galaxy note so badly, I got the note on AT&T with a so so contract (3 gb data, unlimited texting, 450 minutes).
I live in Seattle so there is no LTE here.
I am worried that a superior phone will come out soon (SG III) or perhaps a quad core note and then I will be stuck in two contracts without many options.
So I can either take back my note and get the AT&T version and go with Straightsim and save a good chunk of money ($100/month on AT&T vs $45/month on Straighttalk). In Seattle, straight talk uses AT&T's network so I think my service will be about the same except I will have unlimited data/minutes/texting.
Or, I can take back my Note and get the international version and put it on Straighttalk.
Or, I can stay put.
If I buy a note off contract, I will have the option to get the Samsung Galaxy S III or Note II when it comes out (on Verizon or AT&T)...
Kind of think that getting into a contract for a phone without LTE speeds seems a bit absurd.
Also, the international version has more developers (for now) and a better cpu.
What do you guys think? If I wasn't in another contract on Verizon, I'd just stay put and hope that LTE comes to Seattle this summer.
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I would take it back and try to get one on Craigslist. I got mine by trading my SII and throwing in some cash also. I know Straight Talk is cheaper but have you thought about Red Pocket? They give you unlimited talk and text and 2GB of data for $59.99 but the good thing about there plan is that your unused data rolls over to the next month. I have over 5GB now. I have read where Straight Talk is very fussy when you use a lot of data. Just a suggestion.
wangjaroni said:
Let me first state my situation.
I am in a contract with unlimited data on Verizon with my galaxy nexus.
Despite not wanting to have a contract with two providers, I wanted the galaxy note so badly, I got the note on AT&T with a so so contract (3 gb data, unlimited texting, 450 minutes).
I live in Seattle so there is no LTE here.
I am worried that a superior phone will come out soon (SG III) or perhaps a quad core note and then I will be stuck in two contracts without many options.
So I can either take back my note and get the AT&T version and go with Straightsim and save a good chunk of money ($100/month on AT&T vs $45/month on Straighttalk). In Seattle, straight talk uses AT&T's network so I think my service will be about the same except I will have unlimited data/minutes/texting.
Or, I can take back my Note and get the international version and put it on Straighttalk.
Or, I can stay put.
If I buy a note off contract, I will have the option to get the Samsung Galaxy S III or Note II when it comes out (on Verizon or AT&T)...
Kind of think that getting into a contract for a phone without LTE speeds seems a bit absurd.
Also, the international version has more developers (for now) and a better cpu.
What do you guys think? If I wasn't in another contract on Verizon, I'd just stay put and hope that LTE comes to Seattle this summer.
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Hold on a lil longer, MWC is just around the corner...you neva kno whats comin next, its worth the wait, neways id suggest you buy the att version, if you dont wanna wait.. LTE gonna roll out pretty soon..best of luck
Get the international version and jump on straight talk..when note 2 or sgs3 comes out then sell on eBay and switch to next.
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Get the international version and jump on straight talk..when note 2 or sgs3 comes out then sell on eBay and switch to next.
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Are there any downsides to getting the international version?
The one thing I have been worried about is warranty. I see Amazon sells one with a warranty but the others don't have them...
I'd want the white one (only the dark blue one has a US warranty)
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I would take it back and try to get one on Craigslist. I got mine by trading my SII and throwing in some cash also. I know Straight Talk is cheaper but have you thought about Red Pocket? They give you unlimited talk and text and 2GB of data for $59.99 but the good thing about there plan is that your unused data rolls over to the next month. I have over 5GB now. I have read where Straight Talk is very fussy when you use a lot of data. Just a suggestion.
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I've never heard of Red Pocket before.
Which network do they use (AT&T or)? Do they have HSPA+ or just normal 3g?
How are their speeds?
The Note 2 won't come out anytime soon. The Note just came out in November. The international version has no carrier bloat and has a better processor. It's also already starting to get ICS.
AT&T has LTE and a guaranteed warranty.
You get a 2 year warranty from Samsung...if you buy from expansys USA they help send it off for you..
I use ensquared for damage etc...
No downside that lve had so far. I also am not getting lte anytime soon.
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MrDSL said:
You get a 2 year warranty from Samsung...if you buy from expansys USA they help send it off for you..
I use ensquared for damage etc...
No downside that lve had so far. I also am not getting lte anytime soon.
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I'm with Mr DSL on this. Got my white att note preordered on the 14th. I'm disappointed by its performance.and the att bloatware etc. Bought the white international last week. To me I noticed the performance right away. Both stock but the international seems way faster no lag. Killer battle life etc
I don't have lte where I live so I'm keeping the international version. And selling my att note for 500 quick sale on craigslist and only out 200 bucks etc.paid 699.99 on amazon for the international version. Oh and love the physical home button and no att branding or bloatware.
But its all bout what u want. Also never wait for something down the road enjoy and get what u like..
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Also if you want ics anytime soon the inter.. is a better bet. Who knows when at&t will release an update.
Also if you're worried about the next best thing the inter.. version should have better resell value since it has no branding.
Oh and of course the physical home button.
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MrDSL said:
You get a 2 year warranty from Samsung...if you buy from expansys USA they help send it off for you..
I use ensquared for damage etc...
No downside that lve had so far. I also am not getting lte anytime soon.
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Easy enough to wait past MWC now but GSIII unofficial news may also happen hopefully within the next few weeks..
OP should have 30 days to return it to AT&T if he wants to exercise that option..personally at this point I'm leaning toward intl GT-N7000 if I decide to get a Note. Eventhough I'm close to an LTE market, ~80% of the time have fast Wi-Fi access & when I don't only ~5% of that time would be in LTE currently.
When I played with the AT&T I was disappointed not to be able to find the Video Maker & screen mode of the GT-N7000 possibly a result of the differing chipset..
Is the following eXpansys staffer (in France posing to the -usa site) incorrect saying 1 yr coverage?
http://www.expansys-usa.com/ft.aspx?k=253235
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Hello,
On the Galaxy Note we are covering 1 year warranty from Expansys. So if Samsung locally can not help you then you can contact us directly and we'll be able to get the handset repaired for you.
I hope this answers your question.
Kenneth Eilertsen (Quality Engineer, eXpansys)"
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-note-5-3-android-tablet-221966/
Are people here using straighttalk-(price certainly sounds better)-if so how is the coverage-service in real life use vs.:
http://www.straighttalk.com/Coverage
http://www.straighttalk.com/FAQ
-Thx
Strange how Expansys just dropped off of Amazon. I was ready to pull the trigger.
I would have had the international and the AT&T side by side to compare.
1 year warranty to me seems good enough as in a year later, I'll be on the next best thing and if the phone were faulty, I'm sure it would have broken within the first year.
I want to try red pocket because I've read around that if you use too much data on straight talk, they will close your account.
With red pocket it is 2gb a month but it rolls over. I probably use that much but I also have my Nexus with LTE, so I doubt i'm going to be using a lot of data off wifi on the Note.
Now the place selling the cheatest note on Amazon is this place:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aag/detail...ER&isCBA=&seller=A1A0163V84UKHW#aag_legalInfo
for $675. Expansys was at $650. Not sure why they are no longer on Amazon because their website seems to infer that they are still in stock.
Their website only says dual band though and Amazon says quad band.
I'd prefer to buy from Amazon just because I'm a big customer of theirs and I have recourse with Amazon if I have problems with Expansys.
Dailysteals.com has the n7000 for $599 at the moment if anyone is interested. I'm sticking with this i717, but I'm not sure why.
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I have had the skyrocket then i had the n7000 and am now waiting on my i717 and straight up if you are in a lte area get the lte version it is crazy fast my skyrocket was probably 10 times faster than my n7000 when i was on lte that's why i sold the n7000.
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I have had the skyrocket then i had the n7000 and am now waiting on my i717 and straight up if you are in a lte area get the lte version it is crazy fast my skyrocket was probably 10 times faster than my n7000 when i was on lte that's why i sold the n7000.
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Yeah. I have LTE already on Verizon and there is no LTE here, so it's a no brainer for me.
Amazon keeps on doing strange stuff with different sellers. I had finally got comfortable with buying from Expansys and now they've been replaced with a ton of other sellers at higher prices.
I guess expansys ran out.
Hey all,
TLDR; I'm budget consious. Do you recommend a $50 refurbed Note for upgrade now, or wait for a refurbed S3 or HOX upgrade?
I'm currently still on the i897 Captivate running CM10 nightlies. For the most part pretty happy with it (GPS is of course spotty), but I've been sitting on an upgrade waiting for something good (read: cheap) to come up on the Note or S3.
AT$T currently has a deal for $50 refurbed Note (+2 year renewed contract) apparently upgraded to ICS.
I'm wondering what thoughts you folks may have regarding this deal and/or how the Note is post-ICS upgrade. I'd almost certainly root and flash a custom ICS or JB ROM immediately, but I see there's been reports of issues especailly with GPS on the Note in ICS.
I also see the DEV support on the i717 is excellent and I recognize many names here from folks who moved on from the Cappy...so that's great, but I'm really hoping for a solid phone with no obvious flaws like we all know the Cappy had with the GPS woes.
Any thoughts or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
TIA
For $50.00
To get a like new note...I'd be all over that deal.
the note is great device, with a huge development base. and It's gonna be around for a while...(forever)....IMHO
I got my i717 recently and have been very pleased with it!
The screen is crisp clear bright and HUGE!
The devs are really good and really friendly!
If you are thinking about it I'd say go for it!
GPS is accurate within 4 meters for me!
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Go to a local AT&T store and play with the Note and decide then.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
NOTE user:
"take a deep breath, make sure to get a good look at it, relax and slowly take it in, the size is overwhelming at first but you will have a happy ending afterwards".
Woman:
Can't go wrong with the note. A refurb goes through quality checks that will ensure it's like new anyways, and you'll have a 90 day warranty where I assume you'll be able to keep exchanging for more refurbs until you get a good one if you get a lemon...which you probably won't get a lemon.
HOX is a good phone, but I'm impartial to Samsung due to their screens and how friendly they are to custom developing. The screen on the note or the gs3 are untouchable by any other phone on the market imho. Its pretty much impossible to hard brick this phone if you dont flash anything you shouldnt, ie from the international note...so long as you stay here you can recover from most anything you mess up. GPS is amazing because the note has both agps and glonass functionality...super fast, super accurate locks. If you can handle the size, get the note, hands down. Even if it seems a bit large, most people quickly grow accustomed to it and can't see themselves going back to a smaller screen.
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I agree with all the above posters - the note is a fantastic device and a steal at $50 (I wish I payed that for mine). I haven't had any gps issues on ice or jb. But i would definitely play with both the note and the S3 before making a decision.
Just out of curiosity, how much is a refurb S3 or HOX?
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Thank you all for the replies.
I am sorely tempted...went to the local AT$T store and determined it will fit in my pocket. That would have been a deal breaker!
To the previous poster, there are no S3 or HOX refurbs at AT$T yet. For a long time, the Note refurb was ~$200 on their website and suddenly dropped to this price quite recently which obviously is making way for the Note2's.
Agreed on Samsung. HOX was under consideration b/c ppl say the build quality is good and Costco had them new for $80 and no upgrade fee. However no external SD or battery access was a big turn off.
After my initial experience with the Captivate of having an essentially crippled phone on 2.1 I swore them off...until I got tired of waiting on Froyo and discovered all you fine folk at XDA. Obviously now I've come to appreciate the Cappy for it's amazing flexibility and unbrickableness unless you screw up bootloaders. Who knew I'd get all the way from 2.1 -> 4.1.1 on this thing???
God I loved, er, still love my Cappy. It's my dad's phone now but every time I'm back home from my college town I mess with it still. The Note shares that same unbrickability, so you'll be happy with that. What I would love to see is Cappy styling brought back with Note size...mmm.
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Pulled the trigger today. Even got AT$T to waive the $36 activation.
Now onto Root/CWM/Odin research prior to decision on which custom ROM to flash
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Thanks again all for the opinions.
$50 for refurb and nearly $100 per month for service is not a good deal. Buying the note outright and getting h2o or straight talk at 40-45 per month is better investment IMHO I did that buying the iPhone 4 for $65 refurb and I paid for nearly no data and nearly $85 per month with 200 text at the time.
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$50 for refurb and nearly $100 per month for service is not a good deal. Buying the note outright and getting h2o or straight talk at 40-45 per month is better investment IMHO I did that buying the iPhone 4 for $65 refurb and I paid for nearly no data and nearly $85 per month with 200 text at the time.
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Yeah, if it were just me on a individual plan I'd agree with you, but I'm on a family plan with 2 lines and we have a 24% corporate discount on the voice...so when we average out the per line cost it's about $55/line/month...Straight Talk is $45/line/month so I'd need to buy a phone outright for ~$240 (net $10 difference/month * 2 years) which might get me a used Galaxy S2 on Cowboom, or roll the dice on eBay for something a bit nicer (maybe).
Trust me I've done the math and unless I'm missing something, AT$T 2 year service plan is about best I can do now.
Congratulations on getting the note. You won't regret it. Do you have LTE where you are? If so, all the better reason to be with At&t.
I'm pretty sure the One X is now $99 on contract/upgrade.
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If I could get another one for $50 I would...it's an awesome phone, super fast on custom ROMs, epic screen...Go for it, you won't be disappointed.
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I can offer my take: it's the longest I've had a phone in a year? It's lasted almost a full month. (I don't own a computer, tablet or TV.) The Note does it all for me. It's a fantastic device, save for the ridiculous buttons at the bottom. Pretty easy to flash. And if you are like myself and thoroughly disgusted with the Note 2? Right now, it's the only choice.
Samsung isn't planning on releasing this phone on the big red until MAY30 WHICH is very close to June and isn't there going to be a couple phone in June around that same type with the new snapdragon 800 like that new moto phone coming out so I'm.curious wouldn't the new phone in June play the new gs4 obsolete ? Samsung gs4 release so late will make it its own demise ! why is Verizon releasing this phone so late i mean if there's a phone within the same month of the gs4 with twice the power then I won't consider the gs4 when I can wait just 2 weeks and buy somethin much more superior in hardware and stock android Samsung is about to lose a tons of money on Verizon if they wait all th way to may30 around the same month as sum very new phones with double the power .... Why didnt the gs4 release earlier ?? in may when moto announces there phone which will prob kill the gs4 in every way specs and software within 3week after the gs4 comes to store everyone will cancel there preorders and just wait and extra 3week to get the most powerful phone with a better screen n better snapdragon n prob more sensors and better battery and full stock android!
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gabrielpina4 said:
Samsung gs4 release so late will make it its own demise ! Why didnt the gs4 release earlier ??
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That doesn't make a lot of sense. People in the U.S. typically get new phones when they become eligible so there's a steady stream of people year round looking to buy new phones no matter when they are released. People buy what pleases them. The DNA tanked on VZW and there were no other phones released before it or after it that caused its failure. And it was powerful and had the world's first 1080P display. People are still buying SGS3's in large quantities and probably will after the SGS4's out because the price will be reduced. The SGS4 will be on the market as a "flagship" for 9-12 months and Samsung's planning on selling 10MM a month. HTC, Motorola, LG, and Sony all introduced phones that competed with the SGS3 and it certainly didn't affect Samsung's sales last year. So there's no reason to expect it to this year either. And the average consumer doesn't know (or care) what a Snapdragon, Exynos, or Octa is.
Plenty of hot new phones came out after the Galaxy S3's July release in the U.S. like the Razr Maxx HD, Nexus 4, etc. yet the GS3 outsold all of them by a huge margin. The average consumer doesn't buy phones based mainly on hardware specs.
Verizon is launching it on may 23rd, not may 30th. I went to Verizon yesterday and there was a Samsung rep there showing the employees the s4 and they said the official launch date is the 23rd. I know that's still three weeks later than the rest, but at least its a week earlier than may 30th. I gotta question, is verizons s4 going to be harder to unlock and root than the rest of them? I heard Verizon likes to lock them down, and I've never owned a smartphone I've been holding out for this one. I own a nexus 7 which is obviously the easiest to unlock and root. But i know the s4 is a huge release so I'm kinda assuming that there will be a solid method to root for Verizon. Am i right?
According to official PR from Samsung today, it will be on all major US carriers by the end of April. I'm guessing April 30th.
The Galaxy S 4 is optimized for powerful performance on the nation’s fastest networks and will be available on AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon Wireless as well as U.S. Cellular, Cricket and C Spire starting during April. Additionally, consumers can find the Galaxy S 4 at Best Buy and Best Buy Mobile, Costco, Radio Shack, Sam’s Club, Staples, Target and Wal-Mart. Exact pricing and retail availability will be announced by each of the carriers and retailers in the coming weeks.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20687
hurricane350 said:
According to official PR from Samsung today, it will be on all major US carriers by the end of April. I'm guessing April 30th.
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20687
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Available to carriers and carriers making the phone available to consumers are two different things.
And for the OP... i am not sure how new phones will make the s4 obsolete? a cpu does not a phone make....
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Available to carriers and carriers making the phone available to consumers are two different things.
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But it says available on not to... I'm staying optimistic!
It also says "starting in april" that could mean that just one or a few carriers will roll it out in April.
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I.D.K. why the O.P. is saying that the galaxy s4 would be obsolete soon i mean come on the motorla x phone right now is just a nice looking rumor plus a processor in a phone doesn't make all that difference because maybe you saw last year's htc one X+ it smoked the galaxy but the battery was really bad plus i hardly ever think android needs more power right now they need to be more battery friendly and better screen really what do you want more than 441ppi ?? anyway looking at all those gs4 specs and concediring what happened with last year's gs3 i can tell you that the galaxy won't go down till the gs5 is out so don't worry if verizon goes a few weeks later than everyone else it will still sell like hot cakes.
I still have unlimited internet after 4/21 can I buy new galaxy s4 cell using the new 12 month payment plan that's effective on 4/21 without upgrading to the 200sub? Does anyone know I think everyone who still has unlimited internet should ask Verizon this.. I wanna get the new s4 but keep my unlimited internet so will this 12month thing work for me?
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I am going to tell you right now that Verizon's phones are the worst due to the spyware they bloat them up with. I hope they do as little to it as possible and there's no way verizon is going to pay for a S800 S4. They are cheap when it comes to there phones and replacing one that has gone bad is near impossible unless you take them to the FCC. If they ever touch my unlimited, I am gone with out a hint of doubt.
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I am going to tell you right now that Verizon's phones are the worst due to the spyware they bloat them up with. I hope they do as little to it as possible and there's no way verizon is going to pay for a S800 S4. They are cheap when it comes to there phones and replacing one that has gone bad is near impossible unless you take them to the FCC. If they ever touch my unlimited, I am gone with out a hint of doubt.
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I actually find that replacing phones is very easy on verizon compared to sprint. I had sprint in the past and their customer service was atrocious. The Fascinate (Verizon Galaxy S) apparently had lots of problems, and they kept getting replaced until the Droid Charge came out, when Verizon just started giving out Charges to replace Fascinates.
The Charge had some problems too, and if you got enough bad ones from them, they even started handing out the Bionic, Rezound, and Razr too (phones that came out later with much higher specs). I even bricked my Charge and they just gave me a new one.
Verizon web page updated with Galaxy S4
Verizon web page updated today with Galaxy S4
The next big thing is coming.....late
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I'm in the HTC camp.....
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They had to post something. The basically are going to be releasing with the third world, lol. Its ALWAYS something with them. They did their best to wreck the galaxy nexus, they were in on the Carrier IQ scandal, they have to plaster their dated logo on everything, and they sell pretty much the most bloated phones in existence. Yes, they have a good network, but frankly, I live in DFW...all the carriers have good networks here. It's flat, populated and affluent.
I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending. My wife gets a ~25% discount through work, but I can get 15% on T-Mobile, and with the massive price difference, it actually makes T-mobile a better deal. I may even pickup up a used N4, get the $30 walmart plan thing, and wait for the Note III.
I guess as someone that pays attention and is tired of getting screwed and treated like an idiot sheep, I am just not their target market.
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They had to post something. The basically are going to be releasing with the third world, lol. Its ALWAYS something with them. They did their best to wreck the galaxy nexus, they were in on the Carrier IQ scandal, they have to plaster their dated logo on everything, and they sell pretty much the most bloated phones in existence. Yes, they have a good network, but frankly, I live in DFW...all the carriers have good networks here. It's flat, populated and affluent.
I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending. My wife gets a ~25% discount through work, but I can get 15% on T-Mobile, and with the massive price difference, it actually makes T-mobile a better deal. I may even pickup up a used N4, get the $30 walmart plan thing, and wait for the Note III.
I guess as someone that pays attention and is tired of getting screwed and treated like an idiot sheep, I am just not their target market.
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I don't know exactly which options you're choosing, but if you do the math I suspect you'll find that T-Mobile isn't the better deal. I've been doing research recently for an upgrade myself, and I found that corporate discounts actually significantly narrow the gap between T-Mobile and Verizon. Reason is because with T-Mobile ditching subsidies but lowering the monthly bill, the value of a discount on that smaller monthly bill is proportionately less. If you factor in the fact that a full price GS4 on T-Mobile is $630 vs $200 for Verizon, Verizon might actually come out ahead over the course of 2 years.
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I don't know exactly which options you're choosing, but if you do the math I suspect you'll find that T-Mobile isn't the better deal. I've been doing research recently for an upgrade myself, and I found that corporate discounts actually significantly narrow the gap between T-Mobile and Verizon. Reason is because with T-Mobile ditching subsidies but lowering the monthly bill, the value of a discount on that smaller monthly bill is proportionately less. If you factor in the fact that a full price GS4 on T-Mobile is $630 vs $200 for Verizon, Verizon might actually come out ahead over the course of 2 years.
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If he used like 1GB a month sure it would cost less, but Verizon's network has really gone down the drain in the bigger citys. May as well have sprint 3G at times it get's so bad. Now if you live in bum ville sure Verzion win's. But he live's in the city so data speeds will be better on T-moblie.
Also no unlimited data any more with verizon and those like me that still have it get throttled.
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I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending.
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If you're considering using an upgrade, that means you don't have unlimited, in which case my question is... why bother with VZ?
4ktvs said:
Also no unlimited data any more with verizon and those like me that still have it get throttled.
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It's not throttled. When the network isn't congested (as you say, places like NYC during the day are crap) I still get great speeds.
Hi Everybody,
I'm debating whether to make the jump from my aging Galaxy Nexus (VZW) to the LG G2 (VZW).
Can anyone tell me if they have experienced LTE-Advanced yet, and what it feels like in the real world? (I think its live in NY)
Thank you
still wondering
David 617 said:
Hi Everybody,
I'm debating whether to make the jump from my aging Galaxy Nexus (VZW) to the LG G2 (VZW).
Can anyone tell me if they have experienced LTE-Advanced yet, and what it feels like in the real world? (I think its live in NY)
Thank you
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Just wondering if you made the jump? Also wondering if you found out anything about LTE-Advanced?
cesar33 said:
Just wondering if you made the jump? Also wondering if you found out anything about LTE-Advanced?
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I haven't done it yet. Still can't bring myself to leave a Nexus for another phone.
Although this might change... the dropping price of the lg-g2 on vzw is becoming more and more tempting...
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David 617 said:
I haven't done it yet. Still can't bring myself to leave a Nexus for another phone.
Although this might change... the dropping price of the lg-g2 on vzw is becoming more and more tempting...
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I did read that until 11 Nov you can get the G2 free by ordering it online and using VZWDEAL code. I used that code last month when it was $200 and got 30% off. I have the Motorola Bionic and didn't plan to change, but the unlimited data glitch and 30% off code got me. Now when I use my Bionic it seems so small, so slow, and I'm really glad I jumped. If you are eligible for an upgrade you are losing about $22 a month by not taking a new phone. Verizon gives no discount for being paid off, so it's cheaper to jump.
Likes for G2:
Root
TWRP or CWM
Xposed Framework and modules
Camera
XDA forum support
Wireless charging
LG add on features
unlocked SIM
GSM frequencies
OTG support
low cost cases
battery life
solid 4G
Custom ROM are available
I understand your hesitation.
I also have a GNex and unfortunately mine was really starting to show its age.
I had been eyeing the G2 but finally made the jump with the recent price drop combined with the promo code to make the phone free.
I don't regret it at all. There's a significant speed/battery life difference. And surprisingly, not much of a size difference.
I second this. I came from a genx with unlimited data to 6g now. I don't regret it. I have been using for a week now and my battery has gotten better.
Off charge this morning with light use throughout the day, few pics at my daughters soccer game, light browsing through out the day and I am around 50% as I type this message.
I also no nothing of lte advanced. I am in a smaller town so unless it is wide spread deployment, I don't have it here.
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How is it hard to go from the AWFUL galaxy Nexus to an AMAZING G2?
I wrny from gnex to G2 just last wednesday. I must say that with all due respect to the Galaxy Nexus the lg g2 makes the gnex feel like a flip phone.
Battery life, screen brightness, screen resolution, camera, processor speed, overall feel of software speed through stock rom is nothing short of spectacular. I have rooted my g2 but i have yet to put a custom rom causr i wanna give stock a shot. However, either custom or stock rom this cell phone is leaps and bounds ahead the Galaxy Nexus.
As far as LTE-A i have no idea.
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David 617 said:
Hi Everybody,
I'm debating whether to make the jump from my aging Galaxy Nexus (VZW) to the LG G2 (VZW).
Can anyone tell me if they have experienced LTE-Advanced yet, and what it feels like in the real world? (I think its live in NY)
Thank you
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LTE Advanced is not live, nor is it in testing. Tech blogs/news sites lied, it is the AWS spectrum being tested. Currently it is only to be available in certain east coast areas. LTE Advanced is supposed to be nearly double to triple what AWS accomplishes, and at a better frequency.
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All of this info is awesome. Thanks guys. I think I'm gonna get it.
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Henry.EE said:
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The suspense was killing this fellow. I too jumped from my dear dear gnex. Mine arrives Wednesday
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tacosrdelicioso said:
The suspense was killing this fellow. I too jumped from my dear dear gnex. Mine arrives Wednesday
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Lol I know. Just went to Verizon's site and it says that G2 is sold out. Oh well. I'm afraid of purchasing it through Amazon because of my unlimited data.
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Lol I know. Just went to Verizon's site and it says that G2 is sold out. Oh well. I'm afraid of purchasing it through Amazon because of my unlimited data.
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Verizon is currently having a promo where you can get 6GB of data for $30/mo. You may want to consider taking this deal as the manager of my local Verizon stated that unlimited data plans will soon be bumped down to tiered data plans, regardless if you upgrade or not. Much like what AT&T is doing soon..
I called tech support yesterday to report a Web site issue. Tech who helped me went way out of his way to help me upgrade two unlimited lines to the g2. I managed to upgrade one using another line's upgrade (which extended that line's contract only four months), upgrade the second using promotions/employee discount, and keep unlimited on both lines. I didn't get the $50 sale, but it was a lot less than full retail ($450). I got two g2's for about 300. I'd highly recommend going to the Verizon store and or calling sales/support first. They have some employees that care more about the customer than Verizon's bottom line. Of course they have some that tell you to go to shared contract or buy full retail so they don't have to go through the trouble too.
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i believe LTE-A is only available in internationala areas, like in Korea. not sure if its here in US though. AWS is available in some areas, specifically NYC. my friend has an S4 and after upgrading his radios, he is able to get AWS speeds. not sure if G2 will get new radios for AWS anytime soon though.
as for jumping from GNEX to G2, you will notice the huge difference. better in every way. i was waiting for the N5 but after reading the early specs that it was going to have 2300mah battery compared to G2's 3000mah, i jumped on the G2. even after N5 release, i would still stick with the G2. battery and screen (thin bezels) are the winners for me. i also kept my unlimited data while paying the subsidized price so i'm definitely happy.
Kept unlimited data?
ffejy462 said:
I called tech support yesterday to report a Web site issue. Tech who helped me went way out of his way to help me upgrade two unlimited lines to the g2. I managed to upgrade one using another line's upgrade (which extended that line's contract only four months), upgrade the second using promotions/employee discount, and keep unlimited on both lines. I didn't get the $50 sale, but it was a lot less than full retail ($450). I got two g2's for about 300. I'd highly recommend going to the Verizon store and or calling sales/support first. They have some employees that care more about the customer than Verizon's bottom line. Of course they have some that tell you to go to shared contract or buy full retail so they don't have to go through the trouble too.
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During the first "unlimited" glitch late September I got my G2, but how did you get Verizon to let you keep unlimited data? I actually have major problems activating my G2 and had to use 2 other Verizon 4G phones to activate the micro SIM card to get the G2 on Verizon network. I actually don't know if I swap SIM cards if I'll have a working phone or not, but after 3 phone swaps I quit swapping.
If your on vzw this is the phone to get. Its this or wait 6 months lol. The HTC one is great but the battery life is just ok and the capacitive buttons are plane stupied. The s4 and note 3.. I'll always pass on tw. Its just a really bad Rom. Moto x. That would have been my next phone but they just can't get a decent camera! Leaving the g2. Is Is imo the best of the bunch. I've had it for 2 months? Give or take, and freaking love it. I think knock on is the most innovative feature of any 2013 phone. Active display is pretty ingenious too lol.
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During the first "unlimited" glitch late September I got my G2, but how did you get Verizon to let you keep unlimited data? I actually have major problems activating my G2 and had to use 2 other Verizon 4G phones to activate the micro SIM card to get the G2 on Verizon network. I actually don't know if I swap SIM cards if I'll have a working phone or not, but after 3 phone swaps I quit swapping.
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The extremely helpful guy from verizon tech support is going to activate both phones once they arrive...I have five lines with verizon; two with unlimited, one is house, and last two are basic feature phone lines. From what I understand from him is that we are going to activate the two G2's on the basic lines, then switch them over to the unlimited lines. He managed to get me the sale prices as well! Two G2's with unlimited for about $160 after rebates and account credits. Hopefully it all pans out. I'll know for sure Friday, but he sounded confident and indicated he has done this a few times before. He had me talk to his supervisor as well and he sounded like he was cool with the whole process.
Been debating on this for a while, and think I'm going to pick up something new this week if I decide to grab a new phone.
Phone will be on Verizon.
I'll be using this 90% of the time in the PAC NW area of the country. other 10% will be divided up between DC/South US/Hawaii/INTL.
I've been checking spec comparisons between them and a few other phones on multiple sites, but wanted to see if any of you had a first hand opinion between these choices.
Right now I'm looking at the Moto X (32GB) , LG G2, HTC ONE, and Galaxy S4, was thinking about getting the Nexus 5 and jumping carriers, but I really can't see any benefit to it that the other phones don't have aside from vanilla android.
i.e. this link to phonescoop comparing the Rezound, Moto X, HTC One, HTC One Max, and Nexus 5
phonescoop link
and this one on phone arena comparing the Moto X, Rezound, and G2
phone arena link
and another one from phone arena comparing the Moto X, Rezound, and HTC One.
phone arena link 2
one more from phone arena comparing the Moto X, LG G2, and Galaxy S4
yet another phone arena link
and my last comparison, the Rezound vs Moto X, S4, One, G2
last link I swear!
My biggest pros for any of the newer ones are the scratch resistant screen, more LTE bands & more GSM bands for when I travel.
As well as NFC would be fun to mess around with, as well as the faster cpu / gpu / more ram. Granted I can't think of anything the rezound hasn't been able to run aside from GTA-VC which is only second hand to me as I haven't tried it.
moto x specific pros-
S-GPS
EDR for bluetooth
only $100 for 32GB version
moto maker if i want it in crazy colors
lg g2 specific pros-
fastest cpu / fasted gpu
quadcore cpu
biggest battery
biggest screen
faster ram
htc onc specific pros-
love the look, and like the built in stereo speakers
samsung galaxy s4 specific pros-
quadcore cpu
highest PPI on screen
faster ram
My cons are for the most of the newer ones are
non-removable battery
no SD card slot.
What I'm asking after all of that rambling is first hand comparisons between the rezounds and these devices, or these devices compared amongst each other.
aka- Sway me one way or the other.
TL;DR - have rezound, debating on Moto X / LG G2 / HTC ONE / Galaxy S4. Any first hand experiences to compare them?
Thanks!
I have the HTC one and I can tell u it's GREAT. I didn't think any phones were worth upgrading from the rezound this year but when my phone cracked 3 weeks ago I had to get a new one. I went threw the same comparisons but instead of nexus 5 it was note 3. I knew the specs of the note 3 were the best of them all but I really don't like touchwiz so that was out of the question and the s4. Then I saw the moto x but it was still $199 at Verizon and $99 on every other carrier plus no moto maker so that was out of the question. Then it was the one vs g2. I used both at a Verizon store and well the G2 was nice the one and it's metal build were just so much nicer. Also the speakers were a great add on and I wasn't really feeling the button on the back of the G2. Also the one has the highest ppi of all the phones not the s4. Either phone is a great choice but I can tell u I get 3.5-4 hours screen on time easy with auto brightness on the one and about a day and a half usage moderate. Also I have experienced no lag whatsoever on the one
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I'd say Nexus 5 unless you absolutely need to stick with Verizon, in which case the LG G2
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I'd say Nexus 5 unless you absolutely need to stick with Verizon, in which case the LG G2
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^^^ I second this...
Any of them would be step up, you wouldn't be disappointed at all, but the LG G2 is a beast (3000mah battery) if you are stuck with Verizon for whatever reason, but if you can jump ship the Nexus 5 on a pre-paid GSM carrier is the way to go, for an unlimited talk/text plan with 2-3Gb data it will run you $45-$60/month... saving about $40-$55 monthly over a standard VZW plan easily paying for the phone in 6-9 months.
I've been thinking about getting a new phone for the past few months as well...I got myself dead set on the One and went to the store to just mess around with it for a bit and pretend like I owned it. Super smooth/fast, beautiful screen, cool speakers...hate the UI. The more I tried to do basic tasks the less I liked it. The two buttons didn't help either. Basically, I recommend going into a store and just pretending like the phones are yours. Specs and reviews and videos and what everyone else thinks doesn't really matter in the end, the phone has work with you.
I'm sure with some new roms etc I could find a way to be happy with the One...but I need some time to get over my frustrations first good luck!
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I was holding out hope that the Nexus 5 would some how come to VZW. While I was waiting, my wife picked out the G2. I put Scott Scrosler's Clean ROM and she really enjoys this phone. I've been playing with it and waiting for the Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals. I found a way to get the G2 for free. This phone is great and there's a lot of dev support. If you have to stick with VZW and the price of all the phones is the same, I recommend the G2.
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I've been thinking about getting a new phone for the past few months as well...I got myself dead set on the One and went to the store to just mess around with it for a bit and pretend like I owned it. Super smooth/fast, beautiful screen, cool speakers...hate the UI. The more I tried to do basic tasks the less I liked it. The two buttons didn't help either. Basically, I recommend going into a store and just pretending like the phones are yours. Specs and reviews and videos and what everyone else thinks doesn't really matter in the end, the phone has work with you.
I'm sure with some new roms etc I could find a way to be happy with the One...but I need some time to get over my frustrations first good luck!
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Last I checked the UI issue can be fixed..
Has HTC/VZW stopped the s-off process on the One yet?
mjones73 said:
Last I checked the UI issue can be fixed..
Has HTC/VZW stopped the s-off process on the One yet?
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They did for a while, but @beaups got it working... at least until the KK update drops and VZW tries again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473644
I have had the one for a little over a month. Will say its a good phone with good battery life. Sure there is the possible purple tent issue but nor all of them has this problem. Best to check the camera out by covering the lens with your hand and see if you get the purple tent. Rooting is easy and as always some great ROMs already out there. The all aluminium body is a real plus for this phone.
I tried the camera on the moto line of phones and the picture just turned out grainy and bad. Even with the one purple tent in low light settings its still takes a great pic just like the s4 does. Think HTC finally got sense under control as its not laggy and doesn't seem as a battery drain like older versions of sense was. In the end people likes different things and you will never know till you use it. Nice thing Verizon has the 14 day return policies. Good luck in your choice.
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there a big different between Rezound and last phones today
its like PC with SSD now really quick less lags
the internal storage IOP/S is way higher then older phones
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Been debating on this for a while, and think
My cons are for the most of the newer ones are
non-removable battery
no SD card slot.
Thanks!
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*WALL OF TEXT INCOMING* (just a friendly warning)
I ended up ordering the LG G2 (staying with verizon) from bestbuy.
last sunday, (the 17th) I noticed that bestbuy had all of the lg g2s marked down to 100$ and had a 50$ gift card, so I checked it out on the best buy website, and saw that you had to bring in a working smartphone to trade in to get it at that price, but if you ordered online, it took the 50$ off instantly.
While looking on the Bestbuy website at the LG G2s, for some reason, even though every other carriers version was $99.99, the verizon one was listed at $49.99.
I ordered it online, thinking they would kick the order out and that it was an errror or something.
I figured $50 for the phone and a $50 bestbuy giftcard, probably an error or an early black friday price mistake.
They sent an email the next day saying there was an urgent problem with the order and call within 48 hrs or it would be cancelled, I called and the rep couldnt figure out why it sent me that email, and after being on hold for about 30 minutes came back and said they called shipping and had them force the order though.
They also said they spoke to verizon and had it activated, I didn't think anything of it at the time and just said thanks.
After the call, i put the phone down and a few minutes later went to call my wife, but when I hit send, it rang and then said "this phone is not registered with verizon" or something to that effect, then I remembered the rep said they activated the new phone. FACEPALM time.
I tried a few other numbers, same error message. tried 611, it rang! went through 3 reps telling them exactly what I thought happened (the bestbuy person got confused and got someone from vzw to activate a new phone on my line w/o a new imei or new sim somehow). 3rd rep i spoke with said that was exactly what happened. took about 10-15 minutes but reset everything back to my original imei/sim (the htc rezound). so now i can make calls again.
2 days later got a shipment notification email.
of note- I noticed monday morning when I logged into bestbuys website to check the order status (this is before receiving the problem email) to see if it shipped yet, and the price was up to $99.99 for all carriers including verizon, and now had an extra line on the page- it's 150 at the store, and when you bring in a smartphone to trade in, you get a 50$ gift card that you then HAVE to use in the transaction to get the price down to $99.99. online orders still took the price to $99.99 immediately.
Been checking today since it's supposed to arrive today, and it looks like it's back up to 199.99 and they are still doing the gift card, but you have to trade in a smartphone and use the giftcard on the spot to get it down to 150.
tl:dr-
50$ for the G2, free shipping (but slowwwwwww, totally should have paid the 10$ to get it in 2 days if i knew it was going to take 7 days) and 50$ best buy gift card.
and i finally got the email an hour ago for the 50$ bestbuy egiftcard.
of note, they pricematch, so I'm hoping someone lowers it to $.01 for black friday and then I can go get my $50 back and have it for free!
chose the g2 since it was marked down so low and has the faster CPU/GPU, even though i won't be able to change the battery (but it does have the biggest stock battery at 3000ma, which is awesome since my std rezound battery only lasts a few hours and the extended battery doesn't even last a day anymore)
Thanks for the advice everyone!
after a week with the G2, i've got to say it's amazing. I still have the rezound and will start tinkering with it since i finally have another device, but the G2 is insanely fast at everything so far. love it. can't recommend it enough.