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I am starting to think that we will never have a fully funtional device.
Are there any examples of xdandroid having an almost perfect port?
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bijan588 said:
I am starting to think that we will never have a fully funtional device.
Are there any examples of xdandroid having an almost perfect port?
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Devs are making leaps and bounds recently... the list of bugs is just so high, there's a lot of little things to squash - with the addition of pieces of hardware still not being functional.
So have a little patience, and show a little respect. We'll get there eventually - and as always, patches welcome - if you think you've got the talent to fix things fix them and give us patches! Don't sit on the sidelines and ***** about how stuff doesn't work. Doesn't do anyone a damned bit of good.
bijan588 said:
I am starting to think that we will never have a fully funtional device.
Are there any examples of xdandroid having an almost perfect port?
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we are "stable" look at Arrrghs post below
BUILD] **Complete Froyo Bundle!!** FRX06 - "Stable" - Minor Fixes
Originally Posted By: arrrghhh
I was running this bundle for a while and in the begining I did have some issues but that's cause I didnt know crap. but now that I have learned a litle about each bundle and how they work and how to make it run better, I said good bye to windows and hello droid.
I'm testing another bundle and so far its prettty good.
THANKS TO ALL DEVS, ARRRGH PLEASE EXCUSE THOSE WHO COMPLAIN BUT DONT DO ANYTHING TO FIX THINGS. THANKS ARRGH FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND I AM SCREAMING DAMN IT!!!!!
bijan588 said:
I am starting to think that we will never have a fully funtional device.
Are there any examples of xdandroid having an almost perfect port?
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It really depends, partially on usage scenarios. xdandroid FRX05/06 on RHOD300 is close to what many WinMo ROMs achieved in terms of general stability. It's actually better than the old version of Energy I was using (which hung on boot 50% of the time, but would be fine after that.) I'm using the xdandroid source tree myself as my daily phone with lots of success.
Power management issues are getting knocked down pretty fast (major focus right now for the devs, primarily being worked by WisTilt2)
RIL issues are on the way to resolution, thanks to independent efforts by highlandsun and WisTilt2. I'm personally hoping to maybe see WisTilt2 hand off his work to highlandsun so WisTilt2 can resume working the kernel PM stuff
Bluetooth is in progress - sounds like we're close, but it's lower priority. Unfortunately the Bluetooth commits and WisTilt2's latest PM work are conflicting, so there isn't a kernel that includes both the improved PM and the improved BT support. I suspect this will change in a week or two.
GPS - It's functional enough for most people, so currently is very low priority. I've done a little work here since I'm not really qualified to work some of the other stuff. Ideally the GPS will get cleaned up so it doesn't wakelock us (we have an easy workaround for that), and time/loc injection can be implemented for faster locking (This requires a significant reverse engineering effort though - Qualcomm changed the interface enough with newer gpsOne solutions that I don't think we can use the code/documentation from the cyanogenMod and AOSP GIT trees.). Lack of XTRA isn't a priority at all for those running from SD, it's a big issue for NAND though.
The progress made in the last several months has been significant. Back near the beginning of the year I was having to delete my data.img and restore from backups every few days. The latest kernels and system releases have solved a ton of issues.
Bluetooth and ril fixes are all that's needed to make me completely forget about Windows mobile on this phone.
toadlife said:
The progress made in the last several months has been significant. Back near the beginning of the year I was having to delete my data.img and restore from backups every few days. The latest kernels and system releases have solved a ton of issues.
Bluetooth and ril fixes are all that's needed to make me completely forget about Windows mobile on this phone.
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I already forgot about windows. I use droid daily. it's stable enough for me
arrrghhh said:
Devs are making leaps and bounds recently... the list of bugs is just so high, there's a lot of little things to squash - with the addition of pieces of hardware still not being functional.
So have a little patience, and show a little respect. We'll get there eventually - and as always, patches welcome - if you think you've got the talent to fix things fix them and give us patches! Don't sit on the sidelines and ***** about how stuff doesn't work. Doesn't do anyone a damned bit of good.
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Sorry, I'm not tryin to complain.
I was just thinking "has ther ever been a 100% port of android to a windowss phone"
I dident intend to sound like a spoiled brat, and I understand a ton of work goes into this project.
Sadly I only know java and am of no use to you guys, if I tried to help I would end up being anotheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer tiad 8.
Oh look! The famus key stuck bug
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bijan588 said:
Sorry, I'm not tryin to complain.
I was just thinking "has ther ever been a 100% port of android to a windowss phone"
I dident intend to sound like a spoiled brat, and I understand a ton of work goes into this project.
Sadly I only know java and am of no use to you guys, if I tried to help I would end up being anotheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer tiad 8.
Oh look! The famus key stuck bug
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Yes, there are still bugs out there.
There are two WinMo phones that I'd say have a 'complete' port - HD2 and Vogue. Now I don't think every single feature has been matched, but they're considered stable and almost every feature has been ported over to Android.
I'm on FRX05 with the 3/11 wistilt2 kernal and this thing is heaven. I don't get any lagging unless I run a crap ton of apps at once or try and download a ton of programs off the market at once (that would slow down any phone). I get through the day with about 40% battery still left. Bluetooth isn't completely working but I don't use that. What more are you looking for in terms of stability? Android can be even less buggy/laggy than some Winmo Cookie 2.0 ROMs in my opinion.
Wow, this is pretty impressive.
I'm an old TP2 (VZW) user, got a Droid X in October as a replacement.
I saw a video for the HD2 and figured I'd check out my old phone and see how Android development is going. I've kept my TP2 in case I ever did any world travel, so this is definitely something I'm going to start watching.
Just a few questions.
1) How does touching work as opposed to the stylus? I know WinMo was VERY stylus heavy and often finger presses would miss because they weren't exact enough. I was always under the impression that was hardware config. Since Android is working on these WinMo devices, I'll presume the stylus is useless now. Confirm / Deny?
2) What's not working exactly? I've gathered BT and GPS (but not sure exactly what doesn't work with GPS), but I'm sure there is more.
3) Can this be flashed as the default OS, or does it need to be launched as an EXE from the SD card?
4) Can someone guide me to the best install guide? I'm considering popping this on to my TP2 and playing around with it (via WiFi).
5) How well does WiFi hotspot work?
6) Are all builds rooted by default?
7) Recommendations for which ROM to use?
arrrghhh said:
Yes, there are still bugs out there.
There are two WinMo phones that I'd say have a 'complete' port - HD2 and Vogue. Now I don't think every single feature has been matched, but they're considered stable and almost every feature has been ported over to Android.
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Yeah, my wife has the HD2 and *everything* (that I know of) works.
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Wow, this is pretty impressive.
I'm an old TP2 (VZW) user, got a Droid X in October as a replacement.
I saw a video for the HD2 and figured I'd check out my old phone and see how Android development is going. I've kept my TP2 in case I ever did any world travel, so this is definitely something I'm going to start watching.
Just a few questions.
1) How does touching work as opposed to the stylus? I know WinMo was VERY stylus heavy and often finger presses would miss because they weren't exact enough. I was always under the impression that was hardware config. Since Android is working on these WinMo devices, I'll presume the stylus is useless now. Confirm / Deny?
2) What's not working exactly? I've gathered BT and GPS (but not sure exactly what doesn't work with GPS), but I'm sure there is more.
3) Can this be flashed as the default OS, or does it need to be launched as an EXE from the SD card?
4) Can someone guide me to the best install guide? I'm considering popping this on to my TP2 and playing around with it (via WiFi).
5) How well does WiFi hotspot work?
6) Are all builds rooted by default?
7) Recommendations for which ROM to use?
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1) All UI elements are large enough that I've never had a need for the stylus in Android. However, since it is a resistive touchscreen, often "fingertip" dragging isn't so hot (single-presses OK, dragging less so) - Fingernails are great for this. I'd say it's about on par with my Huawei S7 in terms of touchability.
2) 3.5mm jack is completely nonfunctional on devices that have it
Headset via ExtUSB is flaky - few people use it so it doesn't get much testing/dev attention
BT is nonfunctional right now, I'd say it's the biggest "missing" item
GPS is usable but has performance issues in terms of initial lock times. Once locked it works great. There are two issues - Ephemeride preloading (XTRA, or in terminology more familiar on the WinMo side, QuickGPS) is not implemented. Fortunately XTRA loading can be done from WinMo prior to booting Android. There's also GPS time/location injection used to "warm start" the GPS - also not implemented.
Camera is a little flaky, but there have been major strides in that in the past month
Power management is still a little flaky, but I think WisTilt2's kernel work is nearly complete
Our RIL has definite known issues, esp. on CDMA phones. WisTilt2 was working it a bit, and highlandsun has made MAJOR improvements in just the past week
bijan588 said:
Sorry, I'm not tryin to complain.
I was just thinking "has ther ever been a 100% port of android to a windowss phone"
I dident intend to sound like a spoiled brat, and I understand a ton of work goes into this project.
Sadly I only know java and am of no use to you guys, if I tried to help I would end up being anotheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer tiad 8.
Oh look! The famus key stuck bug
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The HD2 has a pretty close to 100% port of android... the HD2 is even starting to get it's own CM7 build... not a port, a build made specifically for it. I think it was easier porting android to the HD2, though, because there are many similar android devices that use similar hardware. Also the HD2 seemed to have a lot more devs working on the project.
I love my HD2... it's my main phone and will be for at least another 6 months. Currently running WP7 on NAND and running a CM7 build from my SD card, and even running from SD card, it runs about as well as a native android device. It's going to be hard to move on to a new phone when I'm used to being able to run both WP7 and Android.
Anyways, sorry for the HD2 talk in the Rhodium forum. I'm new in this section... just got myself a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 to play with and use as spare phone, so I'll be around these parts more from now on.
Is cotulla still working on magldr for the rhodium? Any recent news on that. Having magldr can make the rhodium much more like a native android phone, especially if he has recovery support.
absolutely, magldr 113 is phenominal on my hd2, i'd never go back to windows again, i've been using frx06 with different highlandsun's ril and arrrghhh's kernel for a few days with verrry few problems. i can't wait to get it on nand and have a clockwork mod system
As to the HD2 - As I understand it, there seems to be far fewer variations between Snapdragon configurations as there were for MSM7k configurations.
As a result, it's a lot easier to target one of the rare non-Android Snapdragons when so many Snapdragons ran Android.
EtherBoo said:
1) How does touching work as opposed to the stylus? I know WinMo was VERY stylus heavy and often finger presses would miss because they weren't exact enough. I was always under the impression that was hardware config. Since Android is working on these WinMo devices, I'll presume the stylus is useless now. Confirm / Deny?
7) Recommendations for which ROM to use?
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1 Winmo is much better for fingers. I can not use fingers for soft keyboard on Android. Seem to me that WM has a lot of filtering, that is missing in Android. Using my nails work pretty well though.
7 I recommend you try them all. All of them have issues. Find one you can live with
Many people has had success with Huawei, its pretty easy to install, so I would start with that. Does not work for me though.
FRX05/06 are easy ready-to-go-bundles as well.
EtherBoo said:
Just a few questions.
1) How does touching work as opposed to the stylus? I know WinMo was VERY stylus heavy and often finger presses would miss because they weren't exact enough. I was always under the impression that was hardware config. Since Android is working on these WinMo devices, I'll presume the stylus is useless now. Confirm / Deny?
2) What's not working exactly? I've gathered BT and GPS (but not sure exactly what doesn't work with GPS), but I'm sure there is more.
3) Can this be flashed as the default OS, or does it need to be launched as an EXE from the SD card?
6) Are all builds rooted by default?
7) Recommendations for which ROM to use?
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1.) I much prefer androids UI to that of winmo, stylus is needed less but I still use it occasionly . But I didn't use it much in winmo eithar as iv grown good at precise use of the touchscreen But android is still a lot less fiddly
2.)Most of these have already been pointed out but as usual I'm adding in my own personally annoyance Idv3 tags in mp3s are not being read. So you can listen to your music, but album/artist/album art/ and da rest of it won't be seen in most mp3s.
3.) Great progress is being made. . . . .but atm its still reccomended to boot using HARET on sd
6.) Yes afaik the builds are rooted because root is access to /system . . .which seeing as its on the sd card it can be accesed/edited. (Btw can only onfirm for certain that root apps and exploring of root in android in neopeek builds . . . Havnt tried on an xda build as of yet)
7.)well first of all you need to decide wether you want to run a partition(neopeek) build , or a system.ext2 file (xda) build . . . . .you being new id recommend a build here on xda as setup is easier, that does leav you with less choices though but The latest FRX0- build should satify your craving for android . Arrrghhh has made a thread with the build and instructions.
Jandyman said:
2.)Most of these have already been pointed out but as usual I'm adding in my own personally annoyance Idv3 tags in mp3s are not being read. So you can listen to your music, but album/artist/album art/ and da rest of it won't be seen in most mp3s.
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I'd like to address this issue.
I think this is simply an issue with ID3v1 and v2 tags. Have you made sure both tags are populated on your music?
If it's not this issue, then I'm not sure. I've only tried streaming music, haven't tried playing it locally yet...
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1 Winmo is much better for fingers. I can not use fingers for soft keyboard on Android. Seem to me that WM has a lot of filtering, that is missing in Android. Using my nails work pretty well though.
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I had this problem too but you can simply fix it by downloading a keyboard app from the market (like 'Gingerbread Keyboard' or 'SwiftKey').
I am using Gingerbread Keyboard and that is working much more exactly than the standard keyboard for me.
One more questi.
Is it possibe to make the browser scroll faster. And less choppy?
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I think I'm going to wait awhile on mine. I'm beginning to see others having certain issues that a n00by like me would probably not enjoy All & all I'm happy with my rooted 1.40 Nook. I may just wait for the SD card version of CM7 to play with it. I sure do admire these guys that know how to work with this code and develop OS systems Sure wish I knew how to do this stuff.
I'm perfectly content with the way I currently have my NT set up. Rooted, OTA-blocked, using an alternate launcher, and having a shortcut to the default launcher if I want to read something or browse the Nook Store.
Now if CM9 becomes available on the NT, I might have to give that a shot.
I think some of the main features that a custom ROM such as CM7 can provide are bluetooth and multi-touch (which isn't available yet but currently under development). I'm not sure that's available for a rooted stock ROM. I saw some video of someone using a PS3 controller to play emulated games on their Nook Color so I can imagine that would be a great freature to add on.
I'm going to wait until they do further testing with CM7, at least until they get to a beta stage but I think it's the way to go for me.
I'm just waiting for a sure way to access the nook library. I have some magazine subscriptions that I don't wanna give up.
One of the main reasons I got the Nook Tab is because I saw that people were working on getting CM7/9 going on it. I had a $250 gift card from work to B&N, so it was a winning situation for me. I doubt I would have bought it if CM7 hadn't been on the horizon. I've actually never used it stock, I had it rooted and all B&N stuff stripped off within hours of buying it.
I definitely recommend flashing CM7 unless you are completely married to the stock B&N Stuff, then wait for the SD install method. Flashing CM7 is easier than most of the steps required to root, side load, fix unreadable menu's, etc, all the dumb crap I had to d to make this thing usable.
Almost everything is available in the market. No sideloading, no finding apps with your browser and tricking the market, almost everything works. All my important apps and favorite games have worked with no issues.
Menu's are all standardized, everything is readable, all options are open, just fantastic having all those little pieces working in every app with no fuss or hacks.
Rebooting is so much faster, not sure if it was all the apps I had or what but my reboots took forever with my stock rooted, now are 3 times quicker.
The thing just feels snappier, not sure if it is a placebo effect or not, but definitely feels faster.
Overall it feels like a tablet instead of a hacked e-reader. There may be some bugs that surface and a few things are being looking to, but so far so good
CM7 was the reason why I'm going to get a NOOK... well and the books lol
I installed the B & N app from the market and everything works great. I have been able to use my existing account to purchase books i have been able to move books over onto the Sd card in .epub format and read them. Make sure to fix permissions andcormate cache anddevlick cache if you are updating from first CM7 alpha.
Yeah i love cm7
I was nervouse when i first did it but it turned out all right in the end. Now ive got CWM and titaniumbsckup functionality and i can flash any rom or anything. Not only is cm7 a great new version of the OS but it opens the door to all the other roms that you could ever want to install. Only complaint is that the HD youtube videos lag, but the devs know about it and are fixing it. Id highly recommend it. Hope you take the plunge!
-Silente
Sent from my CM7 Nook Tablet
the only thing that worries me is that I have 1 week left to decide if i want to buy the 2 year warranty. what would happen if i need to send in for repairs if it has cm7?
Lined up all the tools I might need if disaster were to strike. Stuck the zip onto an SD card & went for it. I'm not looking back. Warranty? I won't be needing no stinkin' warranty.
The Lord has indeed Blessed me this day!
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Greatness83 said:
the only thing that worries me is that I have 1 week left to decide if i want to buy the 2 year warranty. what would happen if i need to send in for repairs if it has cm7?
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That would be a big VOID if they could tell. If it won't boot up not much chance of that
pepi4 said:
That would be a big VOID if they could tell. If it won't boot up not much chance of that
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I installed CM7 and messed around with it for a day or so. It worked great - with the exception of streaming video. Where HULU and Vulkano (slingbox-like DVR that works with my Directv) were smooth as silk with rooted NT on CWM, the CM7 vers. video would briefly "hang/stutter" from time to time - a bit annoying. Others have reported this same issue, and I know that the Devs are working on this.
Also, I lost all of my B&N stuff - not a huge loss - but think I may wait for the SD card version which, if I understand correctly, will allow me to hang on to that.
That said, I reverted back to the stock 1.4.0 using the "magiccard" method, and then re-rooted with Albert's SD card method (vers 4.50). So, assuming the unit keeps working (will boot,) does anyone know if there is a way for B&N to tell that a unit has ever been on CM7/rooted? I thought the magiccard method basically wiped the partitions and put the stock rom back on.
Thanks! Bob
pepi4 said:
I think I'm going to wait awhile on mine. I'm beginning to see others having certain issues that a n00by like me would probably not enjoy All & all I'm happy with my rooted 1.40 Nook. I may just wait for the SD card version of CM7 to play with it. I sure do admire these guys that know how to work with this code and develop OS systems Sure wish I knew how to do this stuff.
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I purchased my nook tab specifically to tinker with and have no investment in BnN ecosystem. So far I've have some really frustrating problems that took a week or two of research and tinkering to work out. It has been a great learning experience. I now know a little about the inner workings of the Android OS and have a functional tablet to play with while the wife watches Netflix. Getting CM 7 working gave me a real sense of accomplishment. Before getting the tab for xmas I only had experience rooting my Droid 3 (one click method at that), So I am a real n00b too. I just went into this wanting to tackle my own problems. My advice, if you like what you've got, don't fix what ain't broke. - yes I am a hillbilly thankyaverymuch!
2nd post in xda sent from nook tab CM7
I'll try it out if/when an SD bootable version comes out. I read and buy a lot of graphic novels and comic collections that are only viewable via the built-in reader.
For awhile I was just following on the developments and waiting till a stable version was released of CM7 because I was able to do what was needed with stock + root. The other day I decided to do some catching up in the NT scene and figured the CM7 Alpha12 looked pretty stable, so I gave it a shot. I am really glad that I did this, the NT just runs so much better than it did using the stock firmware + root. I am loving CM7 Alpha12 so far. If you were skeptical about installing CM7 due to it's Alpha status and possible bugs, as long as you haven't invested a ton of money into the B&N Store or stream a lot of video content. I think you should give it a shot because TEAM-B has been doing a great job.
Changed my mind and glad I did! !!! Loving CM7
I think I am going to wait for the SD version.
I think after a stable method to root/ block/ flash comes out that us non-devs can execute with consistent success I will try CM7. I am rooted - Thanks Indirect! - but I also had problems with the last time I tried CM7. At this point it's just not worth the extra work to try and fix a borked NT. Having said that, Veronica's ROM here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512373 is pretty awesome looking and I can't wait to try it out.
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I'm terrifically sorry - I've committed the noob crime of failing to search....and posting (inadvertently) in a thread that was already dead. I found the answer to my question. Sorry for the nuisance.
- Computerslayer
Like in the topic.
I have 16GB Nook Tablet and would like to have good OS for University - reading books, making notes.
Maybe watching videos, listening to music, surfing the Web.
So which one is more "user-friendly"?
Or maybe it's possible to have CM9 "on-board" and then boot CM7 via dual-sdcard-boot?
EDIT: And very important - bluetooth keyboard - I'd like to have one (and I've heard that CM9 doesn't have working bluetooth?).
The big thing CM9 is missing that CM7 has is hardware acceleration. This means high end games don't work and videos like Netflix.
In terms of user friendly, they're both user friendly, though CM9 is better suited for a "tablet" whereas CM7 is kinda a bloated phone OS put onto a tablet.
You can dual boot as well, with CM9 on the internal and CM7 on an sdcard.
As for bluetooth, neither version has this working.
I dual boot to CM9 internal and run CM7 from SD card. CM7 is still my daily and I fool with CM9. I haven't gotten CM9 to correctly use my wifi location in any apps and have to manually set these. It works great in CM7. I guess I'm more used to the mail client in CM7 and I haven't found how to change the preferences in the weather/mail widget in CM9.
Once CM9 is really ready I may switch drivers, but for now, I prefer CM7.
Bill
Thank you for you're answers. Is there any possibility that bluetooth problem will be resolved in not very distant future?
From my reading in the forum I think it has been determined the chip may not support bluetooth so it may be unlikely we will have bluetooth.
yes, i agree with the gentleman above... ( remember reading it about a month ago ) plz use the search function to see the dev's answers. . . i believe the only hope is with getting the USB port more functional / useful, then you'll be plugging your BT device into it...
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yes, i agree with the gentleman above... ( remember reading it about a month ago ) plz use the search function to see the dev's answers. . . i believe the only hope is with getting the USB port more functional / useful, then you'll be plugging your BT device into it...
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More info on bluetooth here
Howzit guys,
I have a HTC Aria the AT&T version. I've rooted my phone and all the jazz. I'm interested in putting this ROM on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588599
What I want to know is how much internal space will be available once the ROM is installed. I currently an running Froyo/w HTC Sense and there just isn't enough internal storage space on the phone.
Regards
There's much more space in non HTC Sense roms I think. If I remember correctly, there's about 118mb free at the start.
Also, you can use S2E to move your dalvik cache to the sd card which will give you an additional 50-100mb depending on your apps.
Where can I get S2E?
You can find s2e on the Google Play store. It uses a partition on your sd card. To create the partition you can use a function in the Rom Manager app, which should have come with the ROM you installed. If not, its also on the Play store. You can also create the partition with Clockwork recovery. It will completely wipe your sd card, so make sure you have a backup of stuff you want to save. The ROM Manager method is a little easier.
Once the partition is setup, s2e will give you the option of loading cache and program files to the sd card partition. When you have it load program files, it automatically loads all existing and new downloaded programs to the sd partition. Even those that usually don't provide that option. In fact, DON'T SET "MOVE TO SD" FOR INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS. While it sounds a little counter-intuitive, it will actually defeat the s2e function. The sd partition actually becomes an extension of your phone's memory. Its a very clever program for phones with limited memory.
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I found the app but it's not compatible with my phone and I also saw this
S2E works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9!
I'm not running CyanogenMod
ZorAxe said:
I found the app but it's not compatible with my phone and I also saw this
S2E works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9!
I'm not running CyanogenMod
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Well, we assumed you were switching to CyanogenMod. That's why we recommended that app.
It only works on CM. Sorry if I confused you.
Me to. In your first post you said you were going to load CM 9.
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ZorAxe said:
I found the app but it's not compatible with my phone and I also saw this
S2E works only with CyanogenMod7 and CyanogenMod9!
I'm not running CyanogenMod
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If you are concerned about free space, I'd advise you to install Cyanogenmod and then use S2E. If configured correctly, it will give you as much space for apps as you are willing to dedicate on your SD card. Preferably do that only with a reasonably fast SD card (class 2 is probably too slow).
Sorry if I caused confusion there. Out of all the ROM available for HTC Aria, which do you guys rate as the best and which are you currently using?
I don't wanna go through all the effort of installing and backing-up and it turns out I put a bad ROM on my phone.
I would recommend this ROM by WinSuk. I think it is the most up-to-date CM9 / ICS ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451906
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ZorAxe said:
Sorry if I caused confusion there. Out of all the ROM available for HTC Aria, which do you guys rate as the best and which are you currently using?
I don't wanna go through all the effort of installing and backing-up and it turns out I put a bad ROM on my phone.
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I would recommend CM7.2. even though it's not as up to date as ICS, it's very stable, and no bugs as far as I can tell.
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=stable&device=liberty
I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
gfinockio said:
I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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I use Cy 7.2 before and it is really great, I just couldn't get used to the keyboard, but I'm really considering going back because internal space is becoming an issue.
ZorAxe said:
I use Cy 7.2 before and it is really great, I just couldn't get used to the keyboard, but I'm really considering going back because internal space is becoming an issue.
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I use Swype for the keyboard. You should try it out.
Are you using S2E? if not, I really recommend you use it. Just follow yar2's small tutorial he gave you.
gfinockio said:
I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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I used to be a Sense guy too, but with all the customizations CM7.2 had to offer, I just couldn't go back. Although, the battery life is a little bit of an issue(Not too much though).
gfinockio said:
I've always been a Sense-ROM sort of guy for my Aria - tried CM7 a while back, and found the battery life wanting in comparison. But lately, I'm sick of seeing the "not-compatible" message with some of the newer apps on the market...
Is CM7.2 worth a look? It's Android 2.3, correct?
I don't like the list of issues with the camera on CM9, otherwise I would jump on that Winsuk ROM. I use my camera a lot - take pictures of receipts for Evernote, purchase comparisons, barcode scanning, etc. I can't afford to lose any basic camera functionality.
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Not trying to advertise or anything here (okay maybe ), but in case you haven't looked at the CM9 thread in awhile, everything works on the camera except video (which used to work, which is strange), and a separate app can be used to take it if needed.
There's also a 2.3 based sense ROM around here somewhere ("Gingersense" I think), but I don't remember if everything works on it..
WinSuk said:
There's also a 2.3 based sense ROM around here somewhere ("Gingersense" I think), but I don't remember if everything works on it..
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【ROM】liberty_sense3.5_Bliss_Beta2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S "ZY Modded" RC3.1 [Gingersense 2.3.3]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S 3.5 "ZY MODDED"(Port of HTX Zero WS):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568366
Liberty S(GingerSense 2.3.3) 4th of July BBQ Special: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151921
I think this is most of them. which one where you referring to?
WinSuk said:
Not trying to advertise or anything here (okay maybe ), but in case you haven't looked at the CM9 thread in awhile, everything works on the camera except video (which used to work, which is strange), and a separate app can be used to take it if needed.
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So what doesn't work, then? FM radio? Watching videos on Youtube?
Also - none of those "Gingersense" ROMs were worth much, as Bluetooth and other functionality would either crash the phone or not work at all. Never a true working phone option...
aster190 said:
【ROM】liberty_sense3.5_Bliss_Beta2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S "ZY Modded" RC3.1 [Gingersense 2.3.3]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525324
HTC Liberty S 3.5 "ZY MODDED"(Port of HTX Zero WS):http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568366
Liberty S(GingerSense 2.3.3) 4th of July BBQ Special: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151921
I think this is most of them. which one where you referring to?
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Not sure now... I think I tried at least one awhile ago.. didn't keep it for very long though
gfinockio said:
So what doesn't work, then? FM radio? Watching videos on Youtube?
Also - none of those "Gingersense" ROMs were worth much, as Bluetooth and other functionality would either crash the phone or not work at all. Never a true working phone option...
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Everything not working is listed in the thread. Pretty much only one major thing remains - videos use a software decoder instead of hardware, and if videos are too big (say, bigger then the screen's resolution) they play slow. So HQ on YouTube is mostly unwatchable, but LQ plays fine
There's also a bug/memory leak in the decoder, and if it goes too long the system will run out of memory & reboot (this bug is fixed in Jellybean/CM10 though)
FM radio works with Spirit FM
I should note that battery life probably won't be as good though (kind of expected with all the new stuff I think)
You can always try it and revert back if you don't like it
I read through the thread - it sounds more like a testing ROM than an everyday ROM still, at least for how I would use it.
I might take the leap to CM7.2 again though, and hope I can manage the battery better.
Ok so I really need to put a new ROM on now cause my phones internal storage is so low I can't even open my Gallery anymore. I've been looking at CM7 or CM9 but there's so many different version on each, how do I know which is the most stable for everyday use?
I bought my wife a Nook tablet 16g for Christmas (certified preowned) the stock ROM on the device is useless, aside from no access to google play interaction with the touchscreen is choppy and laggy, and sometimes you have to select items three times before they are selected, is this normal for a stock B&N tab?
I've spent the last three days scowering this forum gathering information, so far all I've done is loaded CM7 from this thread to SD card only, modifying it a bit to just do CM7. I chose CM7 because I figured it being an older ROM it would have most hardware working correctly and be the least buggy. Needless to say the device works great with this ROM none of the issues I experienced with the stock B&N ROM existed (great job devs. much appreciated) the only thing that struck me as odd with this ROM was it didn't seem optimized for a tablet and certainly not this tablet, as all the stock phone apps were still there, as well as camera and bluetooth. Is there a ROM out there that's more suited for the nook tablet is my next question, and can all these ROMs be put on SD card and booted from there rather than altering the internal software.
Next question is can the stock ROM be altered to make it usable? Rooting obviously, maybe a different kernel so things function smoothly, adding google play. This tablet is for my wife who is not very tech savy so the more simple I can make the device to use the better.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions that can be provided, this is only the second device I've worked with, the first being me and my wife's Samsung Infuse, so the more detailed the help the better, I am literate and not opposed to reading so good links to learning resources would be great, however I would like answers to my few questions.
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I've spent the last three days scowering this forum gathering information, so far all I've done is loaded CM7 from this thread to SD card only, modifying it a bit to just do CM7. I chose CM7 because I figured it being an older ROM it would have most hardware working correctly and be the least buggy. Needless to say the device works great with this ROM none of the issues I experienced with the stock B&N ROM existed (great job devs. much appreciated) the only thing that struck me as odd with this ROM was it didn't seem optimized for a tablet and certainly not this tablet, as all the stock phone apps were still there, as well as camera and bluetooth. Is there a ROM out there that's more suited for the nook tablet is my next question, and can all these ROMs be put on SD card and booted from there rather than altering the internal software.
Next question is can the stock ROM be altered to make it usable? Rooting obviously, maybe a different kernel so things function smoothly, adding google play. This tablet is for my wife who is not very tech savy so the more simple I can make the device to use the better.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions that can be provided, this is only the second device I've worked with, the first being me and my wife's Samsung Infuse, so the more detailed the help the better, I am literate and not opposed to reading so good links to learning resources would be great, however I would like answers to my few questions.
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I find rooted stock to be just marginally better than stock: many newer apps are not backward compatible with Android Gingerbread release (which stock ROM (as well as CM7) is based on), the co-habiting of the stock and CM10 interfaces quite awkward.
I'd suggest you first try running CM10 off an SD card, that way you can conveniently switch back and forth to stock and compare them, and flash it if you decide you like it.
And cm10 is well optimized for the tablet. Cm7 did seem to have the extra phone rudimentary stuff, but remember it was the first custom rom on the NT. Since then, the other roms are quite polished.
Excellent info thanks a lot guys I'm going to load a SD with CM10 and let my wife give it a whirl.
Is a class 10 micro SD too fast for this tablet? I thought in my reading I came across something about class 10 SD's being problematic, I may have mis-read though.
I just realized the thread I said I used to get the CM7 SD boot image, wasn't the one I actually used, so I though I already had an SD bootable .img of CM10 JB, but I guess I don't. What is the most problem free SD bootable version of CM10 JB (link if possible)? I really don't want to modify the internal storage of the unit till I'm 100% sure everything works good on the unit and I find the best ROM for it (which sounds like CM10 JB)
I don't have much to compare with, but I used this more or less fool proof guide: http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
I ran the 1208 build from sd until a few days ago when I put it internally. I can't say I noticed any improvements running it internally compared to from sd so it's really good option in my opinion. (My Tablet har no problem booting from sd-card. Others have more problem and for those internal is a better choice.)
asawi said:
I don't have much to compare with, but I used this more or less fool proof guide: http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
I ran the 1208 build from sd until a few days ago when I put it internally. I can't say I noticed any improvements running it internally compared to from sd so it's really good option in my opinion. (My Tablet har no problem booting from sd-card. Others have more problem and for those internal is a better choice.)
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Thank you so much, just what i was looking for something simple and easy. I'm fine experimenting and learning on my own device but my wife just wants to use the dang thing. I noticed there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of SD images on the forums (unless I'm just not digging deep enough) i'm wondering why as booting from the SD seems like a great way to keep the device within warranty and get all the benifits of a rooted full android device.
dginsd said:
Thank you so much, just what i was looking for something simple and easy. I'm fine experimenting and learning on my own device but my wife just wants to use the dang thing. I noticed there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of SD images on the forums (unless I'm just not digging deep enough) i'm wondering why as booting from the SD seems like a great way to keep the device within warranty and get all the benifits of a rooted full android device.
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Many NTs will only boot into SD from power-off and on insertion of a powered-USB cable -- an inconvenience if/when the NT ever hangs or reboots and you don't have a usb cable and a power source (e.g., wall/car charger or powered usb hub).
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Many NTs will only boot into SD from power-off and on insertion of a powered-USB cable -- an inconvenience if/when the NT ever hangs or reboots and you don't have a usb cable and a power source (e.g., wall/car charger or powered usb hub).
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So is there any advantage to flashing to internal storage if booting into the SD card is not an issue?
asawl: thank you so much for the link, this ROM is awesome my wife will be Oh so happy.
dginsd said:
So is there any advantage to flashing to internal storage if booting into the SD card is not an issue?
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None, unless you want/need to swap sd cards for media storage.
On the other hand, few people who use CM would ever want to go back to stock, so keeping stock is mostly for convenience in the event of warranty claim (you can also just backup prior to flashing CM and restore stock when needed). Once the warranty expires, there is no reason to keep stock and waste space.