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This is going to be simply a collection of links with important points...Please read ALL directions and comments carefully...as no one is responsible for any damage to your phone.
NOTE 1: IF YOU ARE UNROOTED AND ALREADY UPDATED WITH OTA, YOU CAN STILL USE THE PROCESSES BELOW TO ROOT AND FLASH RECOVERY.
>> Rooting Samsung Fascinate
>> Flashing Clockwork Recovery
NOTE 2: IF YOU ARE ROOTED AND WANT TO KEEP ROOT, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. WAIT FOR DEVELOPERS TO POST A ROOTED UPDATE.
If something went wrong and you did not have recovery installed, use Odin to restore system to stock >> Odin Restore files to get you to stock
If something went wrong, but you are still able to get into clockwork recovery >> Stock Nandroid Image
NOTE 3: IF YOU ARE ROOTED, HAVE LAGFIX AND APPS REMOVED, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. YOU WILL RUN INTO ISSUES. YOU NEED TO COMPLETELY GO BACK TO STOCK, THEN UPDATE. YOU WILL LOSE ROOT.
If you want to stop the OTA update notification, use this file which provides simple edits...but be careful as it may make further updates more difficult >> SCH-I500.DI01 Update
UPDATED:
OTA Update with Root and Busybox >> DH12 to DI01 update with root and busybox
Please post corrections and I will update the OP...I see too many people messing up their devices. Just want to help.
My path.
1) Stock with root mentioned in this dev section
2)restored CW backup
3)used CW to install the update mentioned in this thread.
No problems so far.
After reading this thread again I went to stock and stock kernel. Rooted and gold again.
I think that CPU Scale app causes the Fascinate to shut down, so if you use it and getting them.... remove the app or let me know if you fixed.
Thanks!!!
Now, here is something I didn't try yet. I am still stock (not rooted), ran the OTA...and with all people having issues, I am scared to root. I want to try but I think I will wait and see if anyone else does this.
tats_06 said:
This is going to be simply a collection of links with important points...
>> Rooting Samsung Fascinate
>> Flashing Clockwork Recovery
NOTE 1: IF YOU ARE ROOTED AND WANT TO KEEP ROOT, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. WAIT FOR DEVELOPERS TO POST A ROOTED UPDATE.
If something went wrong and you did not have recovery installed, use Odin to restore system to stock >> Odin Restore files to get you to stock
If something went wrong, but you are still able to get into clockwork recovery >> Stock Nandroid Image
NOTE 2: IF YOU ARE ROOTED, HAVE LAGFIX AND APPS REMOVED, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. YOU WILL RUN INTO ISSUES. YOU NEED TO COMPLETELY GO BACK TO STOCK, THEN UPDATE. YOU WILL LOSE ROOT.
If you don't care about root and want to install the OTA update manually >> SCH-I500.DI01 Update
Please post corrections and I will update the OP...I see too many people messing up their devices. Just want to help.
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I thought the post about doing the OTA manually would allow you to keep root, seeing that it's a stripped down version.
Let me clarify that. If that's the case, I can update the OP.
Restored, updated and Rerooted
All is well. No problems so far.
Guys, pay attention to that update file. It is only updating modem.bin, and then updating your version number so you don't get nagged for an update. There are many more patches/updates in this fix than just modem.bin, and by doing only modem.bin you make it a bit more difficult on yourself to update down the road.
If that's all you want, go ahead and use it, but in no way did JT intend for this to get distributed as "this is what you should use if you have root" update.
Read before using, that's all I ask.
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Guys, pay attention to that update file. It is only updating modem.bin, and then updating your version number so you don't get nagged for an update. There are many more patches/updates in this fix than just modem.bin, and by doing only modem.bin you make it a bit more difficult on yourself to update down the road.
If that's all you want, go ahead and use it, but in no way did JT intend for this to get distributed as "this is what you should use if you have root" update.
Read before using, that's all I ask.
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Thanks for heads up...first post updated.
Bump.... Back to top till this gets stickied!
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Bump.... Back to top till this gets stickied!
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Thanks! I just reported it too to request for sticky.
Just thought I would menetion that phone is auto updating the software once it is downloaded to phone at night I woke up this morning and just reposed at work when I went to use wireless tether it wouldn't work looked at my phone and realized it had been auto updated time to go back to stock and reroot
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Just thought I would menetion that phone is auto updating the software once it is downloaded to phone at night I woke up this morning and just reposed at work when I went to use wireless tether it wouldn't work looked at my phone and realized it had been auto updated time to go back to stock and reroot
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Do you have to go back to stock first before rooting? Or can you just run the root OVER the update? Thanks.
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Do you have to go back to stock first before rooting? Or can you just run the root OVER the update? Thanks.
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I don't think the update blocks root. you should be able to install the OTA as long as your not rooted, then once it is installed go ahead and root your device.
Ok...looks like root went thru...working on cwm recovery now.
OK, recovery installed successfully...running a backup right now.
Should I test restoring? Or should I assume I am safe?
Rooting after OTA update.
Can someone give a diffinative answer please. Can we root after the OTA update or does the update block root?
lukaro said:
Can someone give a diffinative answer please. Can we root after the OTA update or does the update block root?
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If you have CWM installed, you always have root via adb, which means you can get your root apps working.
If you're not running CWM, I don't know. Someone who's tried rage.bin post-update could tell you.
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Can someone give a diffinative answer please. Can we root after the OTA update or does the update block root?
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Yes you can root after update, I did it fine, but had to attempt it twice, the first try it hung, so had to do a battery pull, and then the second time it worked fine.
Nothing in the update seems worth it to return to stock (I've removed so many stock apps already.)
I'm having the Force Close loop issue. My CWR seems to be missing, as all I can access is Android system recovery <2e> with the options of:
reboot system now
apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
Using the Odin method didn't work for me, on multiple tries. My SD card appears to be wiped clean and I can't enter debug mode.
Is there anything short of a miracle that I can do to fix my phone? I've seen a few posts with people saying they had similar problems as mine, but there was never and explanation of how or if they fixed there phone.
Thanks in advance
Just got to know that Pantech has released the much awaited Jelly Bean 4.1 for the Flex through OTA AT&T software update.
Like many others, I'm using the flex outside US, therefore, cannot update my flex.
Would request someone to upload the OTA JB zip file.
Can't wait to see Jelly Bean on the Flex.
PS: Check out the Pantech website for this great news
This is good news. I wish I wasn't rooted with CWMR so I could get this. Tried flashing stock recovery.img and boot.img files but get NOT SUPPORT.
Anyone know a way to get this phone back to complete stock so we can get the Jell Bean goodness?
I managed to unroot and restore stock recovery.
Got prompted for the update, it downloaded and installed fine!
This little Flex seems quite a bit better with Jelly Bean. Wish it had been 4.2 but 4.1 is fine.
Tersanyus said:
I managed to unroot and restore stock recovery.
Got prompted for the update, it downloaded and installed fine!
This little Flex seems quite a bit better with Jelly Bean. Wish it had been 4.2 but 4.1 is fine.
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Can you upload the update file?
How did you unroot?
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Not rooted anymore so probably can't get the update file. It was like 264MB or something.
Not planning to root this phone again.
Interesting that the Pantech diag menu shows still rooted and tampered, it's definitely not rooted.
It should be 100% stock.
If you know of a way to get the file off the phone I can look for it.
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I knew from experience I had to go to stock recovery and unroot to update.
I flashed a stock rooted nandroid backup I had made after rooting initially.
To unroot I think I went into the SuperUser app and choose option to unroot.
Stock recovery file is posted in a thread here somewhere, had recovery.img and boot.img.
Tried flashing those in fastboot but only got NOT SUPPORT mesage.
I took a flashable zip file that had CWM recovery.img file in it and replaced it with the stock recovery.img and flashed it in CWM.
Once stock recovery was on the phone when I tried to use it I only got a little android symbol lying on its back with a red exclamation point.
Phone booted fine and worked ok
Couldn't get it to see the AT&T update until this morning.
Things I have noticed in this new Jelly Bean build for our little Flex:
Of the stock AT&T apps only 3 I could disable (ugh), why no Disable button
good news
Tersanyus said:
Not rooted anymore so probably can't get the update file. It was like 264MB or something.
Not planning to root this phone again.
Interesting that the Pantech diag menu shows still rooted and tampered, it's definitely not rooted.
It should be 100% stock.
If you know of a way to get the file off the phone I can look for it.
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Basically you will find the update in the /cache folder.
I'm not sure if you you can access this folder without being rooted. You can give it a try using the ES File Explorer.
Let me know if you get the update.
ES File Manager did see the cache folder and all the other system folders. It was empty. I'm sorry, I factory reset the phone last night from stock recovery since it was not updating built in apps properly. Never seen stock recovery on this phone before. It has an option for root. I selected it. Downloaded a few root checker apps, not rooted.
I'm sorry if I hadn't reset it last night I might have found the file. I'm sure it will turn up somewhere. This little Flex doesn't have much in the way of development but someone here at XDA will get it sooner or later.
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ES File Manager did see the cache folder and all the other system folders. It was empty. I'm sorry, I factory reset the phone last night from stock recovery since it was not updating built in apps properly. Never seen stock recovery on this phone before. It has an option for root. I selected it. Downloaded a few root checker apps, not rooted.
I'm sorry if I hadn't reset it last night I might have found the file. I'm sure it will turn up somewhere. This little Flex doesn't have much in the way of development but someone here at XDA will get it sooner or later.
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Oh that's bad!
Actually, there's another way. If you can share your system nandroid backup, maybe that can help.
Try Rooting
Tersanyus said:
ES File Manager did see the cache folder and all the other system folders. It was empty. I'm sorry, I factory reset the phone last night from stock recovery since it was not updating built in apps properly. Never seen stock recovery on this phone before. It has an option for root. I selected it. Downloaded a few root checker apps, not rooted.
I'm sorry if I hadn't reset it last night I might have found the file. I'm sure it will turn up somewhere. This little Flex doesn't have much in the way of development but someone here at XDA will get it sooner or later.
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Why dont you try to root with this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460 ,its the same you used to root 4.0.4 I guess, should work, pull out the update and then unroot the phone as you dont want it rooted.
It happened to me, even rooted I wanst able to see /data content with ES File Blablabla, then tried with root explorer and worked fine.
I'm not going to root this Flex. It's not a primary phone for me (never was). It is used as a spare now and can be used by novice users in my family and friends. Don't want them to have a rooted phone. I'd been wanting to get this phone back to complete stock for a while but hasn't really put much effort into it.
When I saw that Pantech released JB for Flex a few days ago that was my motivation to get it back to stock. Frankly I was surprised I was able to get it back to stock and not brick the phone!
I'm uploading the stock rooted rom I have. Luckily I saved that on my computer. It's uploading to Dropbox now so it will take a while.
Thanks for your help
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I'm not going to root this Flex. It's not a primary phone for me (never was). It is used as a spare now and can be used by novice users in my family and friends. Don't want them to have a rooted phone. I'd been wanting to get this phone back to complete stock for a while but hasn't really put much effort into it.
When I saw that Pantech released JB for Flex a few days ago that was my motivation to get it back to stock. Frankly I was surprised I was able to get it back to stock and not brick the phone!
I'm uploading the stock rooted rom I have. Luckily I saved that on my computer. It's uploading to Dropbox now so it will take a while.
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Well, thanks for the file, I'm outside US and even on stock, update notification doesn't prompt.
I got mine back to Stock, but when I hit check for upgrade it says..."Previous session is running. Please Try Later"
I have wiped it several times. any ideas?
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kneemeister said:
I got mine back to Stock, but when I hit check for upgrade it says..."Previous session is running. Please Try Later"
I have wiped it several times. any ideas?
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I can see ATT's software updater sucks, we just can wait for our friend's upload.
Here it is: Link removed, Dropbox suspended it.
That should be a stock but rooted rom. Nothing else done to it at all. At least. I had that on the phone for a while as a backup when I was playing with roms for the flex.
Probably only going to leave this link up for a day. I'd make your own nandroid backup first. You'll probably get an md5 error in CWMR but there are instructions for fixing that around. I think it was ADB commands that had to fix it. I know the instructions for clearing the md5 error are in one of the flex rom threads, not that there were many of those. The standard disclaimer applies, if this nandroid backup bricks your phone, I can't help you.
I got the same previous session message too. Then it said no update after wiping. I think the best thing is just wipe and don't check for updates. Leave phone on, wifi on and wait for the phone to check on it's own. I got the prompt in a few hours.
Hope this helps you.
So, need to flash stock recovery after restoring nandroid correct?
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Likely if you do not flash stock recovery in CWMR the update will fail. I tried to take the update before flashing stock recovery, it failed each time. I had already unrooted though. Pretty much what I have learned from flashing various phones over the years is that if you are not stock completely any OTA updates from the carrier will fail or soft brick your device.
I think the Flex was one where I had just that issue. There was some AT&T update a few months back, I said to apply it and I got stuck in recovery. Every time I rebooted the phone it just booted to recovery. Found out if I went into the diag screen on the Flex and choose reboot from there I could boot normally. Eventually I figured out I had the wrong boot.img on the phone. Once that was fixed the phone booted fine. But the update never worked.
You can try to take the update with CWMR but I doubt it will work and could brick or soft brick. I've learned to never take an OTA update from the carrier if you are not completely stock.
Still waiting
Tersanyus said:
Likely if you do not flash stock recovery in CWMR the update will fail. I tried to take the update before flashing stock recovery, it failed each time. I had already unrooted though. Pretty much what I have learned from flashing various phones over the years is that if you are not stock completely any OTA updates from the carrier will fail or soft brick your device.
I think the Flex was one where I had just that issue. There was some AT&T update a few months back, I said to apply it and I got stuck in recovery. Every time I rebooted the phone it just booted to recovery. Found out if I went into the diag screen on the Flex and choose reboot from there I could boot normally. Eventually I figured out I had the wrong boot.img on the phone. Once that was fixed the phone booted fine. But the update never worked.
You can try to take the update with CWMR but I doubt it will work and could brick or soft brick. I've learned to never take an OTA update from the carrier if you are not completely stock.
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Im on stock and I cant update, no root, stock recovery, Ive been waiting for the update and nothing.
I dont know if is because Im outside US
I got mine back to stock and unrooted, but the upgrade still fails at about 25% and reboots. If I clear cache and wipe, it will download again, then fail again. Even after flashing back to stock, recovery still says rooted and so does the software upload screen. But I have confirmed that I am no longer rooted. I am about to give up.
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
gee1000 said:
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
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Confirmed. Just ODIN'd back to MJ3 from the VRUAND3 update and regained root using Saferoot.
seriously whaaat can u post the needed files and step by step directions ive never used odin before
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mrraya said:
seriously whaaat can u post the needed files and step by step directions ive never used odin before
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207&nocache=1
Be sure to thank @droidstyle for taking the time to make this guide
Another confirmation, Odin'd back to MJ9 from ND3 then used saferoot to root.
Can also confirm working for me and rooted also. Does anyone know how we can stop the OTA notification or do we just ignore it?
stop the ota notification note 2
Ostate24 said:
Can also confirm working for me and rooted also. Does anyone know how we can stop the OTA notification or do we just ignore it?
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Change
FWupgrade.apk to FWupgrade.bak
SDM.apk to SDM.bak
I am not allow to post a link at this time so do a search on "stop the ota notification note 2"
Regain root, ND3 question,Correct MJ9, ODIN7
gee1000 said:
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
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This is what I have been looking for except it says to "REGAIN" root.. I have never had it (ROOT) to start with.. So will this still work?
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where do I get the correct MJ9 since I did not get it off my phone before I lost it.?? or am I ODIN back to out of the box state which is VRALJB?
Odin 7 or Odin 9
I have read ODIN7 ? but Odin9 is newest as far as I can tell...want to double check.
thanks so much!!!!
mrraya said:
seriously whaaat can u post the needed files and step by step directions ive never used odin before
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thebat1 said:
This is what I have been looking for except it says to "REGAIN" root.. I have never had it (ROOT) to start with.. So will this still work?
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where do I get the correct MJ9 since I did not get it off my phone before I lost it.?? or am I ODIN back to out of the box state which is VRALJB?
Odin 7 or Odin 9
I have read ODIN7 ? but Odin9 is newest as far as I can tell...want to double check.
thanks so much!!!!
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thebat1, since I am assuming you are on bootlocked ND3 from your screenshot, you will mess up/brick your phone trying to flash VRALJB. You can only go back to MJ9 at this point. The thread I used which is the same posted by iooooooc -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4207&nocache=1 says "4.1.1 VRALJB- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2043636 (Unless you purchased your device within the first month of release and never took the OTA update, DO NOT use this)".
I am pretty sure it doesn't matter if you rooted under MJ9 or not. I was able to Odin without root and I wouldn't see why not being rooted when on MJ9 would not enable you to use Odin (since the whole point of Odin is to flash Samsung phones). I'd make a Helium backup just in case though.
You can read the thread I linked and posted by iooooooc to find out how to reflash. It's the same one I used. It has links to Odin and the MJ9 firmware (look for "VRUEMJ9 4.3" with the warning "ONLY USE THIS IF YOU TOOK THE 4.3 OTA!!") and the PIT file you'll need.
You can also read about and get links to all flavors of Odin (you need v3.07 for the VZ Note II) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...08-2013-odin-3-09-odin-1-85-versions-t2189539
Finally, to root, here's the main thread for Saferoot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Everything I read is pretty straightforward.
I also haven't received any notification to upgrade back even though I haven't used the .bak renaming method which is interesting.
Worked great!!!! Thanks for the links guys!!!
Worked Here Too!
gee1000 said:
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
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I decided to bite-the-bullet after reading your post, and all I had to do was re-root as well. All said and done it took me 30 minutes tops to have my phone back. I also used Kingo last time, but after ND3, the version of Kingo I used to root MJ9 didn't recognize the phone and the latest version was so full of dire warnings I immediately aborted.
Thanks guys!
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I decided to bite-the-bullet after reading your post, and all I had to do was re-root as well. All said and done it took me 30 minutes tops to have my phone back. I also used Kingo last time, but after ND3, the version of Kingo I used to root MJ9 didn't recognize the phone and the latest version was so full of dire warnings I immediately aborted.
Thanks guys!
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I just received a replacement for my broken Note 2, which I previously had rooted with N3bula. To root my old phone, given it came with 4.1, I just had to Odin the MJ9 files, and then flash N3bula with TWRP . When I got my replacement, it updated to ND3 before I realized what was going on. Does anyone know what files I actually need to flash to get back to MJ9 from ND3? I found a file called I605VRUEMJ9.tar on one of the links posted recently. Since the actual ROM on the phone is the stock 4.3 rom, I assume I don't need to worry about system.img. I don't know about boot.img, cache.img, recovery.img, sboot.bin. I am confident I should flash tz.img, modem.bin, hidden.img.
Thanks!
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gee1000 said:
I just wanted to confirm that you can Odin back to MJ9 4.3 from the newest ND3 4.3 to regain root. This is for 4.3 bootlocked GN2s ONLY. It was quite painless actually, all my data was as it was before. I backed up to the internal memory using Helium just in case (since I lost root), but I was able use saferoot without issue and am now back to rooted.
I had used Kingo before to root, so I am actually glad to use saferoot this time since I am planning to install SafeStrap and flash N3BULA over stock soon.
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Is there a particular reason you wish to use safestrap rather than continuing to use Kingo? Is Kingo not working?
Thx!!
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Worked great!!!! Thanks for the links guys!!!
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thebat1, since I am assuming you are on bootlocked ND3 from your screenshot, you will mess up/brick your phone trying to flash VRALJB. You can only go back to MJ9 at this point. The thread I used which is the same posted by iooooooc -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4207&nocache=1 says "4.1.1 VRALJB- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2043636 (Unless you purchased your device within the first month of release and never took the OTA update, DO NOT use this)".
Neither of those links are good.
Thanks!!
@Skilover
If you go to Droidstyle's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34891181 , and then go to section 1b of the guide, you can revert back to MJ9 by following the guide's instructions. You'll want to use the stock file for (VRUEMJ9 4.3) if you're wanting to revert back from ND3.
After you get back to MJ9, you can get root access with saferoot..... Here's the link to saferoot-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=48392009
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Amazing..WTG, XDA!
New user here. Been reading a bunch of posts lately as I finally got around to trying to root my SCH-1605, which I have through VZW. For a long time, my big concern was interference on the VZW side. Finally, warranties expired and the urge peaked... just in time for the ND3 OTA update. I tried a couple of methods I found - no success. Finally stumbled on some threads that basically said - ND3 = Out of Luck.
Then I found this post.. :victory:
Truly awesome. Worked like a charm. Looking up good info on locking down the OTA pushes next.
My observations of the differences between my previous attempts and what was missing:
My first attempts:
I neglected to include the 16GB PIT file referenced in the links above (** Note: a few guides I popped across mentioned making sure that only "Auto Reboot" and "F. Reset Time" are checked. When you include the PIT file, it will auto-check "Re-Partition". I left this checked, and it worked like a charm. Can't speak as to the offset of UNchecking this, as - like I said - I left it checked)
I used a different .md5 file that would flag as a fail despite my efforts (I was using a CF autoroot md5). I'm fairly certain this failed due to the OTA update, though it may have been the lack of a PIT file. If someone could provide some more info there, I'm totally open to listen!
Bottom line - my experience was pretty painless after doing adequate research. Thanks a ton! :highfive:
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I also came across some info stating that the downgrade to the MJ firmware might flag the KNOX (I believe?) or a similar issue. Anyone run across any of those issues using these methods? If someone has a quick link to how I could check this for myself, I'd be very appreciative.
@Tangescence
Glad to hear you had success with rooting . This link should help you check on your knox counter status:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48758233&highlight=odin#post48758233
If "Knox Warranty Void" is at zero, you didn't trip the counter.
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Knox warranty void: 0
Confirmed. The flashback left KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0
Lists as Samsung Official Binary with a System Status of Custom.
Looks good!
I know this is a bit of a side tangent, but safestrap should work with MJ9 and saferoot to allow custom ROMs despite the locked bootloader - right?
Again, many thanks to the community!
Right, safestrap was designed to be used for people with the locked bootloader on a rooted MJ9. Here is the safestrap thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51616723
I don't know a lot about safestrap, but I believe the ROM slots are not working yet so you'll have to install a custom Rom over the stock ROM if you want to use it. You'll have to do more research to make sure you know how to use it if you want to give it a go.
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mattnmag said:
Right, safestrap was designed to be used for people with the locked bootloader on a rooted MJ9. Here is the safestrap thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51616723
I don't know a lot about safestrap, but I believe the ROM slots are not working yet so you'll have to install a custom Rom over the stock ROM if you want to use it. You'll have to do more research to make sure you know how to use it if you want to give it a go.
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Awesome - I'll be researching it tonight and tomorrow. Will post to the safestrap thread with my results and probably a heads up here to redirect. Again, tons of thanks!
Confirmed working
My Verizon Note 2 broke so under warranty I got a replacement device with the latest VRUAND3 build installed. It literally drove me nuts because I was so used to having the advantage of a rooted device with the bootloader unlocked. After doing some research, I came across the information on this thread and it helped me with having at least root access which allows me to take advantage of my Titanium Backup and other apps tailored to rooted devices.
Thank you very much for this post. I hope the devs will one up on Verizon and give the community the ability to have a unlocked bootloader soon. I like the connection speed and coverage with Verizon but their method of controlling how their customers use their devices is just annoying. I paid good money for this phone Verizon! I'm going to do what I wish to do with it to make it unique and personal to me. They just don't seem to understand that. Once again... Thanks. ROOT 4TW!
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thebat1, since I am assuming you are on bootlocked ND3 from your screenshot, you will mess up/brick your phone trying to flash VRALJB. You can only go back to MJ9 at this point. The thread I used which is the same posted by iooooooc -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4207&nocache=1 says "4.1.1 VRALJB- http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2043636 (Unless you purchased your device within the first month of release and never took the OTA update, DO NOT use this)".
I am pretty sure it doesn't matter if you rooted under MJ9 or not. I was able to Odin without root and I wouldn't see why not being rooted when on MJ9 would not enable you to use Odin (since the whole point of Odin is to flash Samsung phones). I'd make a Helium backup just in case though.
You can read the thread I linked and posted by iooooooc to find out how to reflash. It's the same one I used. It has links to Odin and the MJ9 firmware (look for "VRUEMJ9 4.3" with the warning "ONLY USE THIS IF YOU TOOK THE 4.3 OTA!!") and the PIT file you'll need.
You can also read about and get links to all flavors of Odin (you need v3.07 for the VZ Note II) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...08-2013-odin-3-09-odin-1-85-versions-t2189539
Finally, to root, here's the main thread for Saferoot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Everything I read is pretty straightforward.
I also haven't received any notification to upgrade back even though I haven't used the .bak renaming method which is interesting.
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Couldn't find a clear answer to this... as we all know, Lollipop on the G3 is coming very soon, and i couldn't be more excited. However, i have my phone rooted and the TWRP[bump] recovery on my G3 and i just need to know, do i need to unroot in order to download and install the OTA update when it finally comes?
also, I currently have been using the G3 tweaks app with xposed framework and was wondering if that would cause me problems when the update happens.
Thanks in advance for your time guys.
You will need to .tot via Flashtool back to zv4. Firmware. You will get stuck in twrp. I would not advice just unrooting and flashing restore stock recovery .img. The guide is all over. Including files and walkthrough videos via YouTube. Its very painless.
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I'm sure you'll hear of many warning you'll possibly to certainly lose root and or boot unlock if you ota. There will probably be flashable update to L soon. Up to you. I for 1 really don't worry. But many will. I have plenty of phones. Lol
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Or just wait for one of the Devs to bump it! I hope Engine95 gets ahold of it!! He rocks.
Updated to the zv6 this morning, lost root.. so ya you can take it over the air but prepare to reroot after
vincey2kr1 said:
Updated to the zv6 this morning, lost root.. so ya you can take it over the air but prepare to reroot after
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Did the same. Rooted using Stumproot. After OTA to zv6, no more root. SuperSU states "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. ..."
How do you re-root? I tried running Stumproot again but it says that the phone is already rooted.
Thanks for the assistance.
racter said:
Did the same. Rooted using Stumproot. After OTA to zv6, no more root. SuperSU states "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. ..."
How do you re-root? I tried running Stumproot again but it says that the phone is already rooted.
Thanks for the assistance.
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Maybe go back to ZV4 as Droid2drummer suggested. Then root.
Finally flash the BarRin-ZV6 ROM for a rooted LG G3 with the ZV6 software
Don't ever take an ota on rooted phones people..... Smh
^^^^^^^^^^^^ this. Duh.
Ok, so just to try it out (i'm not scared of softbricks) i did try to take the OTA update today that FINALLY came to my phone (i can only assume its the zv6 update, though it does not say) and let it install.. well it got me stuck in a TWRP bootloop. I managed to get back into the OS with a couple terminal commands but obviously i would not like to try that again and it did not successfully update and just remove root (as suggest it may above) so a fair warning to any future thread lurchers out there.
so on too my query,
if you lose root in zv6 and can't get it back.. will the same be true of lollipop? will we have to wait for a new root method?
and my second question is this; is there any way to simply unroot without actually flashing stock firmware? cause I CANNOT get the LG windows drivers to cooperate with me.. i install them and the phone still comes up with "drivers for this device not installed" in device manager. it says LGE Android Phone with the yellow driver error icon next to it.
the most important thing i need help with right now is getting those drivers working so i can unroot my phone to prepare for lollipop. i have the firmware, LG flash tool and .dll ready for the flash..
thanks for your responses thus far and any future help. i appreciate it.
Don't unroot just wait for the rooted zip to flash when it comes out..... Smh
ok... well if i'm waiting on that then how can i remove this pending update notification from my drawer? it let me click "later" a couple times but now its just a terribly annoying sticky that won't go away..
Remove OTA Update(and notification)
If an OTA notification is on your device you most likely already have the OTA file on your phone. If rooted, you can remove the OTA files and get rid of that annoying notification.
Updates are found in the /cache/ folder on your phone. Using a RootExplorer-type app(or ES File Explorer) browse to the root of your phone(NOT the root of your internal storage, /sdcard/, but the actual phone). If using ES File Explorer you may have to use the "show hidden files" option and grant the app root. You will see the update .zip file in cache if you did everything correctly. If no one has already uploaded the OTA zip.. copy the update to your sdcard and then upload for everyone else. Now delete the zip file from /cache/.
Deleting the file in /cache/ will get rid of the OTA but will not get rid of the notification. To get rid of notification:
1. Pull the notification shade down on your phone
2. Long press on the OTA notification until you see the App Info option pop up.
3. Click App Info and uncheck the Show Notifications box.
Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/psa-stop-taking-ota-updates-update-t2909412
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Don't ever take an ota on rooted phones people..... Smh
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Noobs like myself would not know this "cardinal" rule.
BTW, I have updated on previous occasions via OTA without losing root.
There should be a noob forum regarding, post rooted precautions and expectations.
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thznutz87 said:
Don't unroot just wait for the rooted zip to flash when it comes out..... Smh
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This probably the smartest advice that I seem given on this (throughout all various fora) topic.
Awesome advice.
I just received an extended refurbished warranty replacement for a dead VZW Galaxy S4 SCH-I545 NC5. My old model was rooted, safestrapped, custom rommed, and had ota apps disabled. This new phone is also an NC5 (build date before June, so no problem rooting with TowelRoot). However, when I activated it and rooted it, the upgrade for NG6 was downloaded but not installed. I've rooted the phone and frozen the OTA apps, but I get an annoying popup every few minutes asking if I want to install the new upgrade now or later (clicking later produces a clock to set the time for an automatic upgrade). There is no option for not upgrading. I DON'T want the NG6 build, but the constant popup, which I have to clear with the Back key each time is a roaring PITA.
Anybody know how to disable the popup? The upgrade is already downloaded and I'd like to delete this as well as it is no doubt taking up #*%@^ unnecessary storage, but haven't found the right directory yet.
Any help will be appreciated.
Yout best bet would probably be to do a full wipe, such as an Odin, and restore the phone that way, then immediately root and freeze OTA updates before the phone has the chance to downloaf them.
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I just received an extended refurbished warranty replacement for a dead VZW Galaxy S4 SCH-I545 NC5. My old model was rooted, safestrapped, custom rommed, and had ota apps disabled. This new phone is also an NC5 (build date before June, so no problem rooting with TowelRoot). However, when I activated it and rooted it, the upgrade for NG6 was downloaded but not installed. I've rooted the phone and frozen the OTA apps, but I get an annoying popup every few minutes asking if I want to install the new upgrade now or later (clicking later produces a clock to set the time for an automatic upgrade). There is no option for not upgrading. I DON'T want the NG6 build, but the constant popup, which I have to clear with the Back key each time is a roaring PITA.
Anybody know how to disable the popup? The upgrade is already downloaded and I'd like to delete this as well as it is no doubt taking up #*%@^ unnecessary storage, but haven't found the right directory yet.
Any help will be appreciated.
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Try this,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856632
you'll still get the pop up so go ahead and hit update, it wont be able to find the update so it will bomb out, and not bother you again.
Thanks - worked for a while - then popup returned
XRSTOY1 said:
Try this,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856632
you'll still get the pop up so go ahead and hit update, it wont be able to find the update so it will bomb out, and not bother you again.
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I did try that. The popup went away for several days and then came back. There must be at least one root-level app I haven't disabled.
Thanks for the help, but I'm afraid I still need a bit more.
Still having popups...
socal87 said:
Yout best bet would probably be to do a full wipe, such as an Odin, and restore the phone that way, then immediately root and freeze OTA updates before the phone has the chance to downloaf them.
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When I first got the phone, I disabled OTA, I ran the update - which failed, of course. It got rid of the popup, but I did not wipe the phone as I am a longtime Motorola Droid user and am not totally comfortable using Odin (This is my first Samsung and it's like going from Droid expert to Odin newbie). I have since restored nandroid and Titanium backups from the previous phone (this is a warranty refurb). The backups also included disabled OTA apps from my previous S4. Apparently, I missed one somewhere, as the behavior just recently returned. I'm going fishing on the root level again [sigh].
If anybody would be so kind as to list the exact .apks and their directories involved in OTA, I can make sure they are still disabled and run another failed update. This may be different from my Droids, since it is being referred to as a Samsung build update, and not an Android version update.
If anybody knows where the downloaded update is hiding, I can remove that as well.
Thanks in advance.
Im pretty sure the app u need to freeze is listed as SDM.. That should stop the update and popup.
Thanks also.
fxwrangler said:
Im pretty sure the app u need to freeze is listed as SDM.. That should stop the update and popup.
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I always rename SDM.apk and FWUpgrade.apk, but, with Samsung (with the OTA already pushed, but not installed), I had to jump through several other hoops. To see what else you can do to solve the problem, check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1856632
i just made a post about the same problem. I renamed them. so we will see what happens
To delete the OTA zip use a file explorer with root privileges like "ES File Explorer" navigate to /data/fota and delete update.zip
Beartooth01 said:
I always rename SDM.apk and FWUpgrade.apk, but, with Samsung (with the OTA already pushed, but not installed), I had to jump through several other hoops. To see what else you can do to solve the problem, check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1856632
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That link is dead. Can you please direct me to a good link for that? Thank you
re-rooting after MJ7 kernal pushed by google?
swolh said:
That link is dead. Can you please direct me to a good link for that? Thank you
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Well - renaming SDM.apk and FWUpgrade.akp stopped the totally annoying push notification for google's new MJ7 build for the S4. But by renaming SDM.apk, my Verizon app visual voice mail stopped working. When I returned the SDM.apk file to it's original name, the visual voice mail works, but I get the annoying notification from google over and over.
I'm trying YouMail app for visual software and am waiting to hear from them about whether their app uses SDM.apk. If YouMail is like Verizon's visual voice mail and uses SDM.apk, then my next thought is to unroot the phone, let Google do their update to MJ7, then re-root. I'm wondering if anyone has done this.
My phone came with NG6. To root, I had to flash the NG5 stock kernal, then root using towelroot. Once rooted, I flashed the NG6 kernal. If I unroot and let google flash their new MJ7 kernal, will I be able to repeat the root process (flash NG5, the root, then flash MJ7)? If that route were possible, would I need to find a separate place to download the MJ7?
Is there any other way to stop google's annoying notificaton and pushing MJ7 at me? All help greatly appreciated.
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XRSTOY1 said:
Try this,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856632
you'll still get the pop up so go ahead and hit update, it wont be able to find the update so it will bomb out, and not bother you again.
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My apology. I missed this link first time thru this thread. That link to a thread titled "[HOW TO] Disable OTA Update Notifications!!!!!!!!!!!!!" is pretty helpful. We'll see in a day or two if the notification and push attempt continues, but I'm pretty optimistic following the instructions in that thread will stop it.