Google I/O Predictions - Nexus 10 General

hey guys just wondering if you guys are expecting any nexus 10 or nexus 7 updates. Just sold my nexus 10 and looking to buy either the next 10 or 7.

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talha746 said:
hey guys just wondering if you guys are expecting any nexus 10 or nexus 7 updates. Just sold my nexus 10 and looking to buy either the next 10 or 7.
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Out of curiosity, why did you sell it? The next N10 will not be out till October-November. I'm interested in picking an N10 up, but want to wait for the 3G version.

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PoisonWolf said:
Out of curiosity, why did you sell it? The next N10 will not be out till October-November. I'm interested in picking an N10 up, but want to wait for the 3G version.
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it wasnt portable enough, pretty heavy. Loved the screen but needed something that i can take around more easier and maybe the next nexus 7 will be my solution

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Seriously why? Portable? Even if Google releases the next nexus 7 it won't be available for a few months is that extra 3 inches weighing you down after all this time? I would have at least waited for a nexus 11 if it was really in production as it is worth an upgrade as the spec's potentially say...
Edit: you said you were looking for the next nexus 7 or 10 so why would you sell a 10 inch if you are still looking for one (possibly) as this one does everything a 10 inch android tablet does already. Sorry doesn't make sense bro, sounds more contradictory to what your saying... unless what your looking for is 3G etc that's the only deciding factor N10 doesn't

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I roll with a Nexus 10 and Nexus 4. The Nexus 10 is for stuff that feels/looks awesome on a large screen, and the phone is for situations where carrying a Nexus 10 might not be ideal (exercising, Ingress, etc.)
The Nexus 7 would be a perfect device for me, if not for two things:
- Weaker hardware (compared to the Nexus 4 and 10)
- No rear-facing camera
A Nexus 7 with the chipset of the Nexus 10, 720p screen (or 1080p; non-optimized apps tend to not do too well on the N10's resolution), rear-facing camera, and GSM cellular would be the ultimate device for me :good:
If Google announced such a device... my N10 and 4 might go on sale relatively soon
Walter21026 said:
Seriously why? Portable? Even if Google releases the next nexus 7 it won't be available for a few months is that extra 3 inches weighing you down after all this time? I would have at least waited for a nexus 11 if it was really in production as it is worth an upgrade as the spec's potentially say...
Edit: you said you were looking for the next nexus 7 or 10 so why would you sell a 10 inch if you are still looking for one (possibly) as this one does everything a 10 inch android tablet does already. Sorry doesn't make sense bro, sounds more contradictory to what your saying... unless what your looking for is 3G etc that's the only deciding factor N10 doesn't
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I can fit a Nexus 7 in my pocket. A Nexus 10 has no chance at fitting in my pocket however... As for another deciding factor, rear-facing camera

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Next gen Nexus 7 is likely to happen on this I/O, and if it is it then it should be out next month, not so sure about the next gen Nexus 10, might get a solo announcement later in the year like the N10 did.

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Yeah i dont think that google will anounce the next 10 inch tablet yet. The nexus 10 only came out 7 months ago and hasn't really had time to sell as much as it can. If they anounce the next one then more people will want to wait for the new one and they'd have to drop the price of it a little to sell it. I think theyre going to wait a month or two more because more people are just starting to get interested in it and other android tablets. Now i just cant wait for the next update from google. Theres too many rumors going around and i just want to know whats true. Will it be 4.3 or 5.0?

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A tablet's going to need a bag to be carried easily anyway. You might as well have the biggest you can.

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lol some people claim that their nexus 7 fits in their pockets, is that true?

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You can fit it in your back pocket or a coat pocket but there is no way you'll be able to in the front. Unless you have some cargo pants on or something. It is too early for a Nexus 10 update (although Apple refreshed their last iPad after only a few months) but the Nexus 7 is in prime position for an update. I'll be picking one up on day 1.
I don't think we'll see Key Lime Pie at the conference and Jellybean could use some even more refinement (not sure what happened in the 4.2 update). I expect a separate announcement from Google sometime in the fall with Key Lime Pie and new Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 devices to go along with it. Maybe we'll get an LTE Nexus 4 but I'm not holding my breath on that.
With only one major 3 hour session scheduled on Wednesday, expect most of the emphasis on Chrome, Google+, and Android. I'll be tuning it on the fun.
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Most of the buzz that I've read says that Google will release a 4.3 update for Android, while holding off on the 5.0/Key Lime Pie until after Apple releases iOS 7.

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Carter0108 said:
A tablet's going to need a bag to be carried easily anyway. You might as well have the biggest you can.
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talha746 said:
lol some people claim that their nexus 7 fits in their pockets, is that true?
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I was just going to say this. I dont have a Nexus 7 but i do have a GTab 2 7" that fits in the front or back pocket of any of my jeans. I can even fit the tablet and my phone in one pocket, or tablet and wallet. In the back pockets it sticks out about 2" on top, but in my front pockets the tablet is completely covered and cannot be seen by anyone.

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burhanistan said:
Most of the buzz that I've read says that Google will release a 4.3 update for Android, while holding off on the 5.0/Key Lime Pie until after Apple releases iOS 7.
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Do you have any information on what those 2 revisions would bring of new stuff?

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espionage724 said:
I roll with a Nexus 10 and Nexus 4. The Nexus 10 is for stuff that feels/looks awesome on a large screen, and the phone is for situations where carrying a Nexus 10 might not be ideal (exercising, Ingress, etc.)
The Nexus 7 would be a perfect device for me, if not for two things:
- Weaker hardware (compared to the Nexus 4 and 10)
- No rear-facing camera
A Nexus 7 with the chipset of the Nexus 10, 720p screen (or 1080p; non-optimized apps tend to not do too well on the N10's resolution), rear-facing camera, and GSM cellular would be the ultimate device for me :good:
If Google announced such a device... my N10 and 4 might go on sale relatively soon
I can fit a Nexus 7 in my pocket. A Nexus 10 has no chance at fitting in my pocket however... As for another deciding factor, rear-facing camera
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Bro the hardware is not alot weaker. You`re facin more lags on n10 than on n7 anyway. A dualcore is not enough for that resolution.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
Bro the hardware is not alot weaker. You`re facin more lags on n10 than on n7 anyway. A dualcore is not enough for that resolution.
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Core count doesn't tell the whole story or even mean much; GPU and memory play a bigger role in how content is handled on that resolution (unless a developer manages to render everything with the CPU for some reason, which I imagine is pretty hard to even code and pretty silly).
Regardless, the Nexus 7 is using a Cortex A9 Tegra 3 @ a max of 1.3GHz, which doesn't dominate benchmarks by itself. With some OC'ing and custom kernels, it becomes a bit better, but still nothing "amazing". A Nexus 10 uses a Cortex A15 Exynos 5 Dual with a max of 1.7GHz, which does manage to do a lot better even at stock, in theoretical benchmarks.
Hardware-wise, the Nexus 10 dominates over the Nexus 7. The Nexus 10 however does have a lot more pixels to push, which thus make the hardware avantage not "as" obvious (but still pretty noticeable in most scenarios). I have a newer-model 32GB Nexus 7, and I can say with a fact that I notice a pretty decent performance difference with general tasks, in-comparison to my Nexus 10. Disk I/O I believe is a weak point on the Nexus 7 too.
Only times where I find other devices performing better than my (stock) Nexus 10 is with unoptimized 3D games. After using a custom kernel which ups the chipset and GPU frequency though, there barely is any performance difference with those games.
But yeah, I do have a Nexus 7 and 10 available, and would be interested in seeing what I can do to experience "more lags".
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talha746 said:
lol some people claim that their nexus 7 fits in their pockets, is that true?
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Fits in my side pocket (standard pockets on jeans) without problem.

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espionage724 said:
Core count doesn't tell the whole story or even mean much; GPU and memory play a bigger role in how content is handled on that resolution (unless a developer manages to render everything with the CPU for some reason, which I imagine is pretty hard to even code and pretty silly).
Regardless, the Nexus 7 is using a Cortex A9 Tegra 3 @ a max of 1.3GHz, which doesn't dominate benchmarks by itself. With some OC'ing and custom kernels, it becomes a bit better, but still nothing "amazing". A Nexus 10 uses a Cortex A15 Exynos 5 Dual with a max of 1.7GHz, which does manage to do a lot better even at stock, in theoretical benchmarks.
Hardware-wise, the Nexus 10 dominates over the Nexus 7. The Nexus 10 however does have a lot more pixels to push, which thus make the hardware avantage not "as" obvious (but still pretty noticeable in most scenarios). I have a newer-model 32GB Nexus 7, and I can say with a fact that I notice a pretty decent performance difference with general tasks, in-comparison to my Nexus 10. Disk I/O I believe is a weak point on the Nexus 7 too.
Only times where I find other devices performing better than my (stock) Nexus 10 is with unoptimized 3D games. After using a custom kernel which ups the chipset and GPU frequency though, there barely is any performance difference with those games.
But yeah, I do have a Nexus 7 and 10 available, and would be interested in seeing what I can do to experience "more lags".
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Fits in my side pocket (standard pockets on jeans) without problem.
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if yours is running good, fine.
my n7 with custom kernel is faster than ma n10, and this is only my opinion.
And disk i\o: the stock n7 has very bad, i know.
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So did anyone watch it and find anything interesting? I haven't heard any excitement about an upcoming update or any new threads popping up about it so I'm guessing it wasn't mentioned.
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Actually, it seems that the delay of Android 4.3 (or perceived delay) was to prove a point that I/O does not have to be a launch platform for Android updates.
4.3 is rumored to arrive ~June 10th.
See: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/05/white-nexus-4-and-android-4-3-reportedly-slated-for-june-10/
And: http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/15/4333406/android-4-3-confirmed-google-developer-site/in/4095431
As for interesting; Google Play has a LOT of back-end upgrades. For one, Google Play Games! Osmos and Super Stickman Golf 2 already have integration for live multiplayer matches and achievements. Also, the "Designed for Tablets" section was finally added, dedicated to showing apps that have been optimized for tablets on said tablets Google Play Stores. THIS, I'm LOVING! See http://www.androidauthority.com/google-play-store-update-for-tablets-210150/
Also, All Access music subscription in the U.S. (Google's Radio/Music Streaming service, WITH a one-month free trial. $10 a month).
Then, there's also Hangouts, the replacement for Google Talk. Many people are complaining about it, the lack of features - but it is BEAUTIFUL. Gesture based, great pull-out panes and navigation, with hundreds of emoticons and platform compatibility across the PC, Android, and iOS. Video calling and messaging integrated, although we've lost voice calling. SMS integration is coming soon, according to a Googler. You also get read receipts! Loving that. Group chats are also easy to start, and picture messaging is included as well! It's gonna be great.
THEN there's the Galaxy S4 - Google Edition. Nexus-level firmware and Nexus-level updates! $600, but still...looks like Google is expanding the program a bit.

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CWalkop said:
Actually, it seems that the delay of Android 4.3 (or perceived delay) was to prove a point that I/O does not have to be a launch platform for Android updates.
4.3 is rumored to arrive ~June 10th.
See: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/05/white-nexus-4-and-android-4-3-reportedly-slated-for-june-10/
And: http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/15/4333406/android-4-3-confirmed-google-developer-site/in/4095431
As for interesting; Google Play has a LOT of back-end upgrades. For one, Google Play Games! Osmos and Super Stickman Golf 2 already have integration for live multiplayer matches and achievements. Also, the "Designed for Tablets" section was finally added, dedicated to showing apps that have been optimized for tablets on said tablets Google Play Stores. THIS, I'm LOVING! See http://www.androidauthority.com/google-play-store-update-for-tablets-210150/
Also, All Access music subscription in the U.S. (Google's Radio/Music Streaming service, WITH a one-month free trial. $10 a month).
Then, there's also Hangouts, the replacement for Google Talk. Many people are complaining about it, the lack of features - but it is BEAUTIFUL. Gesture based, great pull-out panes and navigation, with hundreds of emoticons and platform compatibility across the PC, Android, and iOS. Video calling and messaging integrated, although we've lost voice calling. SMS integration is coming soon, according to a Googler. You also get read receipts! Loving that. Group chats are also easy to start, and picture messaging is included as well! It's gonna be great.
THEN there's the Galaxy S4 - Google Edition. Nexus-level firmware and Nexus-level updates! $600, but still...looks like Google is expanding the program a bit.
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Awesome. Thanks for the news and I agree about the hangouts app it looks great and optimized great for the nexus 10. I haven't seen the new tablet section yet but ill have to check it out soon.
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