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I apologize for my noobish question, but how are the ASOP builds starting to roll out w/o source being released?? I understand you can compile aosp builds on your own, but doesnt the source code provide all the tweaks you need to optimize it on a device to device basis?
There's no ICS source for the Captivate either, but we are officially supported on CM9. Very glad!
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if there is good source from another device that is near this one then porting could be possible.
The short answer is a combination of two things based on what I can tell.
They are actually using the existing kernel for the leaked ICS roms and beginning to dissect them. As far as I know, the current AOKP roms being used are using either an unmodified original kernel from ULD3 or 'very slightly' modified/patched kernel from ULD3 with a few tweaks for overclocking support and whatnot.
As far as what is happening with the Captivate, I believe they are taking heavy sections from the Gingerbread source code and splicing it in to their ICS kernel and changing what they need to for ICS compatibility.
Also, similar devices that have ICS source code floating around can also be spliced up.
I am only speculating here since I am not involved in the projects, if someone knows more than I, feel free to speak up.
Guys, I've lost touch with this thread since I've gone to the Note II on Verizon. I am wanting to give my brother my old Note since he has AT&T and the phone is just sitting unused, but I left my previous Note being a mess with force closes and all and he is not good with technology so I want the most stable ROM for him that I can overclock too. Any recommendations on ROM's and Kernels? I would like Jelly Bean if possible. Suggestions would be appreciated and then I'll check them out. Thanks.
Just return it to stock.
Does this mean there's nothing stable but stock!
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Does this mean there's nothing stable but stock!
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No, but it does mean that if you ask the question of 10 people, you'll get 10 different answers back. Some people will flash a new ROM, not have a reboot in 24 hours, and consider that "stable". It doesn't sound like the OP's brother will care about a rooted phone or running custom ROMs, so reverting it back to stock will probably be best for him.
Agreed.....
Stock phone would likely be best in this application...g
BUMP.
I haven't had time but am on a week long vacation and really want to do this now. Stock is not really the answer I want. I would like to know the most stable ROM made that keeps all the Samsung apps and S Pen usability, but even more than that is running Jelly Bean. Can anyone point me to which posts to look at and decide, or just give me their opinion on them if they use them. And what is the best kernel for that, cause I would like to overclock. I will start looking myself, but would love to hear some opinions, not just "stick to stock". I have ran many, many ROMs over the years that were pretty stable without being stock. I am just out of touch with the Note 1 as I have had the Note 2 for awhile and hadn't done anything to my Note 1 in quite some time. I believe I was running Paranoid Android (charging it now) but would prefer a closer to stock based ROM. Thanks. I would rather have Jelly Bean over the Samsung apps and S Pen apps, so the most stable or Jelly Bean ROMs would be good to know.
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BUMP.
I haven't had time but am on a week long vacation and really want to do this now. Stock is not really the answer I want. I would like to know the most stable ROM made that keeps all the Samsung apps and S Pen usability, but even more than that is running Jelly Bean. Can anyone point me to which posts to look at and decide, or just give me their opinion on them if they use them. And what is the best kernel for that, cause I would like to overclock. I will start looking myself, but would love to hear some opinions, not just "stick to stock". I have ran many, many ROMs over the years that were pretty stable without being stock. I am just out of touch with the Note 1 as I have had the Note 2 for awhile and hadn't done anything to my Note 1 in quite some time. I believe I was running Paranoid Android (charging it now) but would prefer a closer to stock based ROM. Thanks. I would rather have Jelly Bean over the Samsung apps and S Pen apps, so the most stable or Jelly Bean ROMs would be good to know.
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I cant offer you a JB stock build for our note 1, because that build does not exist.
Since kernel source for JB has not been released, we are forced to use the JB framework blobs, combined with a modified ICS kernel.
This leaves us a broken rom, that has many working features, and is for the most part stable. But like all custom builds, leaves us with some bugs.
The "leave it stock" statement is not meant to be offensive. It simply is the truth at this point, as we have no official, "stable" JB builds. Although this site does offer many high quality JB variant builds. And no one person can tell you the best one, as our usage habits differ so greatly. You simply need to read the threads, and base your opinion on the user reports from the threads.
It is our hope that Samsung will release an update for us, and open the door on some amazing JB work. but until that happens, we will have bugs, and broken functionality.
I use a very nice ICS build on occasion, as I feel that it offers the best performance, balanced with a feature rich rom.
FlappJaxxx UCLF6 build #12 is my top pick at the moment.
Unfortunately, the rules prevent my linking the rom directly for you, as the developer is no longer on XDA. but his works can be found at rootdev.org in it's complete form. and I for one feel that until we see an official update, no better ICS/ JB variant work can be found than his.
and I'm sure that if/when the update comes, the same will be said for his quality of builds in the JB framework and beyond.
He has true talent for building outstanding code. And you are well served using his wares. I hold much respect for Flappjaxxx, despite his leaving XDA. And I'm greatful to have his work at my disposal.
Good luck in your search, and happy flashing.....g
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I cant offer you a JB stock build for our note 1, because that build does not exist.
Since kernel source for JB has not been released, we are forced to use the JB framework blobs, combined with a modified ICS kernel.
This leaves us a broken rom, that has many working features, and is for the most part stable. But like all custom builds, leaves us with some bugs.
The "leave it stock" statement is not meant to be offensive. It simply is the truth at this point, as we have no official, "stable" JB builds. Although this site does offer many high quality JB variant builds. And no one person can tell you the best one, as our usage habits differ so greatly. You simply need to read the threads, and base your opinion on the user reports from the threads.
It is our hope that Samsung will release an update for us, and open the door on some amazing JB work. but until that happens, we will have bugs, and broken functionality.
I use a very nice ICS build on occasion, as I feel that it offers the best performance, balanced with a feature rich rom.
FlappJaxxx UCLF6 build #12 is my top pick at the moment.
Unfortunately, the rules prevent my linking the rom directly for you, as the developer is no longer on XDA. but his works can be found at rootdev.org in it's complete form. and I for one feel that until we see an official update, no better ICS/ JB variant work can be found than his.
and I'm sure that if/when the update comes, the same will be said for his quality of builds in the JB framework and beyond.
He has true talent for building outstanding code. And you are well served using his wares. I hold much respect for Flappjaxxx, despite his leaving XDA. And I'm greatful to have his work at my disposal.
Good luck in your search, and happy flashing.....g
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Thanks for the reply. I remember Flappjaxxx. I will definitely take a look at this. I know all ROMs have problems. Just looking for a more stable than others one that is more up to date than just stock. Thanks, will give it a try.
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Thanks for the reply. I remember Flappjaxxx. I will definitely take a look at this. I know all ROMs have problems. Just looking for a more stable than others one that is more up to date than just stock. Thanks, will give it a try.
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Always welcome....g
Found the ROM. Which kernel and modem are you using?
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Found the ROM. Which kernel and modem are you using?
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Use the kernel already present in the rom...
And use the UCLF6 modem.....g
I'd recommend ptmr3's Padawan V8 7005 Base OR Padawan 5.1 UCLF6 . I've been running Padawan ROMs for 5 months and they all have been pretty stable. Take a look! :good:
Flapjaxxxx's FJKang is really stable, along with his h0tcakez kernel. It's 4.2.2 JB, too.
One of my favorite roms is definitely AOCP 4.1.2. Not the latest jb but by far one of the most stable roms I've ever used.
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One of my favorite roms is definitely AOCP 4.1.2. Not the latest jb but by far one of the most stable roms I've ever used.
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Do you mean this one?
[ROM/MOD]*TheCollective*[02-26-13] AoCP - CP5<VBTE> {4.2.2} for i717
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Flapjaxxxx's FJKang is really stable, along with his h0tcakez kernel. It's 4.2.2 JB, too.
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I was searching for stable as well. This one seems to be a good choice.
So is jelly beer.
Zeddock.
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Do you mean this one?
[ROM/MOD]*TheCollective*[02-26-13] AoCP - CP5<VBTE> {4.2.2} for i717
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Yes, but the 4.1.2 build. That one is 4.2.2 and while it is pretty stable I still find the 4.1.2 version to be a bit more solid. There's a link to older builds in that thread I believe.
I am not an expert. I know very little about these ROMs.
I AM A USER.
I always look for a stable but capable, and fast ROM. I love some of the freedoms these flashes give to me, and some of the "flow" of using my phone is better when stupid stuff is turned off and productive stuff is turned on and preinstalled.
Everyone is different and that is why many EXPERTS here will suggest trying each one.
For me, I do NOT like flashing. I do it when I feel there is a reasonable step forward or I hit issues and support dwindles for my current ROM.
All that said... Today...
I am pretty happy with flapp jaxxx and jellybeer.
Good luck. Hope this helps! Just my simple perspective... From a USER.
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There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of activity on the Rom front as I'm seeing it.
Is everyone busy getting ready for 4.2?
I'm kinda of jonesing for something to install.
Until we see source for the JB kernel, we are stuck on ICS builds, or JB data using a modified ICS kernel.
But no true JB builds yet....g
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I'm kinda of jonesing for something to install.
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Buy some tile for your kitchen floor.
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Buy some tile for your kitchen floor.
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Interesting you say that. Been thinking about re-doing the guest bathroom. Roms are a much cheaper solution but not very productive of my time.
Go for the home upgrade. There, as here, Google is your friend.
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There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of activity on the Rom front as I'm seeing it.
Is everyone busy getting ready for 4.2?
I'm kinda of jonesing for something to install.
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If anyone is leading you or anyone to believe 4.2 is an option currently, they are not being honest. Right now the only reason we have JB 4.1.2 is because we are using a modified ICS kernel and ICS proprietary blobs(drivers etc)
These blobs and kernel were enough to get JB 4.1 working but as you can see the best of the best JB ROMs ALL suffer from the same issues.
1. Random reboots
2. Random freezes
3. Video overlay issues in games and video players etc.
So our developers have done a great job with what we have.
Now we have JB 4.2.1
JB 4.2.1 introduces a lot of new features and all new obstacles.
In official JB the proprietary blobs(drivers etc) have changed tremendously from version 4.1 to 4.2.
What does that mean to us Note users?
It means that the ICS proprietary stuff is not going to work in 4.2. I am not saying it is entirely impossible but it pretty much is.
Now what?
Now we need to cross our fingers that Samsung/AT&T release an official JB update for the Note. Even if it is only 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 then we have viable proprietary stuff to work with. Until then don't get your hopes up for JB 4.2 no matter how much people say they are working on it.
There is a reason why no one has even touched it for our device. CM AOKP etc know that the time and effort it is going to take to try and patch together the ICS proprietary stuff isn't worth the end product if it will even boot. I've already compiled a JB 4.2 ROM for the Note and it doesn't even come close to even finish booting.
So everyone cross your fingers and toes for some official JB and when/if it does come, it will be like we all got brand new devices! Until then just don't get your hopes up. Even if we can get it booted with the ICS proprietary stuff its gonna be pretty useless and no way will it be able to be a daily driver.
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Is that why the nightlies had slowed/stopped also?
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Is that why the nightlies had slowed/stopped also?
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I am sure the cm team is concentrating on 4.2 and supported devices. That's not official or anything just speculation. You would need to ask them
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I'm looking for a new ROM that will be relatively trouble-free, but is also actively supported/updated.
I love the UX/features/philosophy of SlimBeam ROM on my Note, but it does suffer from some instabilities.
Unfortunately, SlimBean for the I717 hasn't been updated in ages and is no longer in their list of supported devices. (Is it possible to run ROMs written for the Note N7000 on a Note I717?)
The I717 also does not support the newest version of CyanogenMod.
I've read thru the ROMs in the Development forums, but does anybody have info on which are still active projects and which are dead ends?
Any recommendations (for or against particular roms)?
Thanks.
Go to the AT&T Galaxy Note I717 Android Development section for what you are looking for.
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I'm looking for a new ROM that will be relatively trouble-free, but is also actively supported/updated.
I love the UX/features/philosophy of SlimBeam ROM on my Note, but it does suffer from some instabilities.
Unfortunately, SlimBean for the I717 hasn't been updated in ages and is no longer in their list of supported devices. (Is it possible to run ROMs written for the Note N7000 on a Note I717?)
The I717 also does not support the newest version of CyanogenMod.
I've read thru the ROMs in the Development forums, but does anybody have info on which are still active projects and which are dead ends?
Any recommendations (for or against particular roms)?
Thanks.
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i build slim 4.2.2 on a regular basis, your clearly looking at the 4.1.2 version in original development
all the releases i put out see regular updates actually, slim/pk/chamelon/supernexus ect..
edit: and your looking at the wrong place for cm, quincyatt is very well up in the mix with the newest cm releases, get.cm <-- thats where you find the releases
Anytime you choose a "custom" rom there's going to be bugs, or glitches, or random reboots in my opinion. But you're also going to get cool features! You'll have the ability to customize you phone more with custom roms. So it's a trade off. Only you can decide what you can live with and without. If you're looking for custom roms the dev usually updates the title with the last time he updated it. You can then read over the first post and find out what's included feature wise. Very very rarely will you find a complete list of bugs the rom has. You have to surf thru posts to see complaints, and kudos. If you're looking for stability, the i717 got an 4.1.2 JB update a week or so ago. It's the most stable thing out in my opinion. You can give it root access, debloat it, and enjoy a smooth rom if that's what you're after.
Oh and its not possible to run N7000 roms as far as I know. I'm pretty sure you'll brick your device.
I hope that info helps ya out a lil.
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i build slim 4.2.2 on a regular basis, your clearly looking at the 4.1.2 version in original development
all the releases i put out see regular updates actually, slim/pk/chamelon/supernexus ect..
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Thanks.
I'm still on Slim-i717-3.1.0-OFFICIAL.
Do you know if 4.2.1 stable 1.0 is available anywhere for the I717?
And how stable are the 4.2.2 builds? (I've spent enough years in sw development to be cautious - Mark Twain once wrote "People who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either one being made," and the same definitely applies to software)
In my opinion the 4.2 based custom ROMs are way my stable then the 4.1.2 based ( the exception is 4.1.2 based stock ROMs) used to get a reboot every couple hours . 4.2 rarely do I see one. If you are looking for stable but don't really care about all the frills try Jamie's super nexus the first build is bullet proof pure asop like your phone is a nexus doesn't see a lot of updates but its stable.
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Hello,
I've been a fan of this site for a while, and I just created an account tonight.
I noticed that the ICS kernel source was released by HTC today. I am looking forward to having a nice ICS AOSP rom with working video. Thank you DEVS!
With the ICS kernel source, are we limited to ICS versions of android? Can the kernel source be modified to work with Jelly Bean? Maybe CM10.1?
From a verizon customer holding on to unlimited data,
thanks again to all of the DEVs and individuals that contribute to the Thunderbolt community.
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Hello,
I've been a fan of this site for a while, and I just created an account tonight.
I noticed that the ICS kernel source was released by HTC today. I am looking forward to having a nice ICS AOSP rom with working video. Thank you DEVS!
With the ICS kernel source, are we limited to ICS versions of android? Can the kernel source be modified to work with Jelly Bean? Maybe CM10.1?
From a verizon customer holding on to unlimited data,
thanks again to all of the DEVs and individuals that contribute to the Thunderbolt community.
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From what I understand it's being worked on, maybe not actively right now but it seems to be a strong possibility.
HTC released their kernel version 3.0.16. That will out-of-the-box support Ice Cream Sandwich. Jelly Bean needs 3.0.31 (or higher). I think what the kernel developers now need to do is back port the necessary bits and pieces to HTC's version to make it compatible.
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HTC released their kernel version 3.0.16. That will out-of-the-box support Ice Cream Sandwich. Jelly Bean needs 3.0.31 (or higher). I think what the kernel developers now need to do is back port the necessary bits and pieces to HTC's version to make it compatible.
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Already have one patched up to around 3.0.80, just gotta finish adding in the new board files, LTE drivers and defconfig.
As we all know though, older kernels can also be made to run versions they aren't intended for as well.
Also already have CM10.1 running pretty darn well...
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Already have one patched up to around 3.0.80, just gotta finish adding in the new board files, LTE drivers and defconfig.
As we all know though, older kernels can also be made to run versions they aren't intended for as well.
Also already have CM10.1 running pretty darn well...
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What a tease!
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santod040 said:
Already have one patched up to around 3.0.80, just gotta finish adding in the new board files, LTE drivers and defconfig.
As we all know though, older kernels can also be made to run versions they aren't intended for as well.
Also already have CM10.1 running pretty darn well...
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That is great news Santod!
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Already have one patched up to around 3.0.80, just gotta finish adding in the new board files, LTE drivers and defconfig.
As we all know though, older kernels can also be made to run versions they aren't intended for as well.
Also already have CM10.1 running pretty darn well...
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I think I just soiled myself. Oh the amazing things I miss while I'm at work.
santod040 said:
Already have one patched up to around 3.0.80, just gotta finish adding in the new board files, LTE drivers and defconfig.
As we all know though, older kernels can also be made to run versions they aren't intended for as well.
Also already have CM10.1 running pretty darn well...
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Is the RIL working for you?
video of cm1.1 on the tbolt
blackshoes said:
Hello,
I've been a fan of this site for a while, and I just created an account tonight.
I noticed that the ICS kernel source was released by HTC today. I am looking forward to having a nice ICS AOSP rom with working video. Thank you DEVS!
With the ICS kernel source, are we limited to ICS versions of android? Can the kernel source be modified to work with Jelly Bean? Maybe CM10.1?
From a verizon customer holding on to unlimited data,
thanks again to all of the DEVs and individuals that contribute to the Thunderbolt community.
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HTC Thunderbolt Runnig cm10.1 Video:good:
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HTC Thunderbolt Runnig cm10.1 Video:good:
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loving this! :good:
Cyanogenmod 10.1 official support?
I'm curious. Once the devs are able to get the kernel ready for cyanogenmod 10.1, has anyone thought about submitting that kernel to cyanogenmod for official Thunderbolt cyanogenmod builds?
From the posting linked below, cyanogenmod requires a tested kernel and a developer or group of developers that will maintain the kernel for official support. Is cyanogenmod official support a possibility with the kernel the DEVs are working on?
forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/72612-can-i-get-cyanogenmod-on-my-device/
Thanks for the info!
blackshoes said:
I'm curious. Once the devs are able to get the kernel ready for cyanogenmod 10.1, has anyone thought about submitting that kernel to cyanogenmod for official Thunderbolt cyanogenmod builds?
From the posting linked below, cyanogenmod requires a tested kernel and a developer or group of developers that will maintain the kernel for official support. Is cyanogenmod official support a possibility with the kernel the DEVs are working on?
forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/72612-can-i-get-cyanogenmod-on-my-device/
Thanks for the info!
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I can't speak for everyone, but let's get "that" kernel worked out first.
It's now possible, but still not exactly a simple task.
Having already knocked out a custom Sense ICS kernel from the source was done without much hassle already.
And Jelly Bean has come pretty far for the Bolt already, but making a fully functional Jelly Bean kernel from HTC's ICS source may take a bit more dilligence.
So I would just say let's take it one step at a time.
Official builds would require dedication on a dev or multiple devs parts to continue updating and supporting it.
There aren't a lot of candidates left, that may still have enough personal interest in doing so when that time comes.
Basically, that's just not something that can be predicted at this point, as there are still uncertainties surrounding such a thing, from several different aspects/angles.
It would of course be great to see the old Bolt be added to the list of devices which are officially supported.
Who knows what else the future may hold for this faithful beast that keeps getting surprises, even if long overdue.
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HTC Thunderbolt Runnig cm10.1 Video:good:
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I want.
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