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How much of your RAM is consumed ?
Mine is always over 600 out of the 780mb. Even after a ram clear ?
Is this normal ?
Where exactly do you see the ram?
Does it bother you ? mine is smooth as butter, stock everything
Unused ram is just going to waste.
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corrsea said:
Unused ram is just going to waste.
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I have read this before, but I wonder if more memory is used then more battery is consumed. Isn't that right?
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Loading and unloading apps all the time needs a lot more battery that keeping the RAM filled up. Both performance and battery life would suffer if the RAM would be kept empty.
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i have this problem as well.. and when too much ram is consumed around 650mb on average for me.. my s3 will starts to lag sometimes when exiting from an app to the home screen. anyone has solution to this ? clearing the memory dosen't help much. memory still fluctuates around 600+ mb
Install a task manager with listing capability, e.g. Houmiak Taskmanager and check which process(es) cause the high usage.
It should not lag, usually that's caused by app service processes not terminating correctly when exiting/closing the app and filling up memory to the brink.
If you got such apps you might want to try 'Fast Reboot' which usually gets rid of them very fast with (imho) less performance impact than most other 'memory cleaners'
thanks.. i have thus far downloaded ram booster.. works great for me .. free up lotsa memory and now it fluatueting around 400 :good: now my s3 is running at the speed it should be
Im at 600/780Mb.
No apps running under active apps.
Yet if i hit clear memory, it says 21 apps closed and drops down to 530
I get high RAM usage too , sometimes can reach up to 680 but the odd thing is that I don't see any difference in terms of performance. It is still fast as ever.
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Im at 600/780Mb.
No apps running under active apps.
Yet if i hit clear memory, it says 21 apps closed and drops down to 530
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And how long does it stay that way?
Tip: stop looking at ram usage, stop killing apps and stop creating duplicate threads of the same subject
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Solution?
First off these forums are here for people to ask for help. Old threads have no new interest.
I stumbled across this in hope of a permeant fix as mine too is around 650mb and phone starts to lag. Only quick solution I have is to go into developer options and click background processes and limit the amount that can occur. I turned mine to 0. Don't know the effect on battery yet but its around 500mb now and the phone is now back to its smooth self.
Wont that stop software such as weather to update in the background?
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antdawe said:
First off these forums are here for people to ask for help. Old threads have no new interest.
I stumbled across this in hope of a permeant fix as mine too is around 650mb and phone starts to lag. Only quick solution I have is to go into developer options and click background processes and limit the amount that can occur. I turned mine to 0. Don't know the effect on battery yet but its around 500mb now and the phone is now back to its smooth self.
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Best way to preserve ram is to switch off your phone..that way it will have 1 gb ram..
[Off topic] killing background processes will make your phone like my Nokia 1100..with no multitasking..all the apps will close once you exit..and all the data will be loaded up when you restart again..taking up more cpu time and battery..
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zoot1 said:
Best way to preserve ram is to switch off your phone..that way it will have 1 gb ram..
[Off topic] killing background processes will make your phone like my Nokia 1100..with no multitasking..all the apps will close once you exit..and all the data will be loaded up when you restart again..taking up more cpu time and battery..
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Quoted for truth.
No multitasking = slower phone, worse battery.
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I was having the same problem with my S3 the first week I bought it. I switched it off and on again and it was back to normal
Just my point of view using a comparison :
On the computer when I installed more RAM it's to have more apps load in it instead of waiting for them to be loaded... Not just to have more RAM unused...
On the phone it's the same.
Android seems to handle ram usage very well, killing apps on it self when ram is required...
Reason I did it was when my ram was going above 600mb upon exiting apps my home screen would hang with no icons for a few seconds. Task manager, clear process and it return to normal. Limiting the process somehow worked. It's not logical but these are phones not computers.
There's no software trick on my mac that can increase ram like jelly beans has done so who knows.
Plus most apps apart from weather etc store their last state and resume where you left off so doing what I says does not affect me.
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I too have this ram problem. I like that the phone is doing its best to keep the ram full for multitasking purposes but i hate when it lags when i go back to the home screen. Also sometimes i close an app to do something else, say texting, then go back and it has to re-open the app because android killed it to free up space. Couldnt it just cache it if it needs space instead of fully closing it?
I heard there was an update that fixed this ram issue but its not showing up for my phone.
In some ways i miss my galaxy s2 :/
I'm currently running the devil kernel on my phone, using the new devil app to control settings but I really don't know a couple settings though. First what I'd zram and is it better than swap? And what's the best value to set the zram at? I have it on 150mb.
Also what's better zram or swap?
Dude look @ the op
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No info about what it is in the op U_U
well, based on my reading...(Basically meaning take this with a grain of salt because I may not perfectly re-present the information, but this is how I've come to understand it lol )
zram basically compresses unused apps within the system RAM. This allows the system to swap less needed processes to the zram partition for faster access at a later time, instead of killing them. This does take up some of your ram though, so I imagine that the value you are setting is determining exactly what percentage of your ram that the zram partition is allotted.
Swap instead uses a small portion of the SDcard like RAM. The phone will attempt to keep as much within the ram as possible until fill, and then begin using the swap partition on the SDcard. At that point, the phone will begin moving inactive blocks of memory to the SD, freeing up RAM for active processes. If one of the pages on the SD needs to be accessed again, it will be moved back into RAM, and a different inactive page in RAM will be moved onto the SD ('swapped').
Swap files don't restrict available RAM but writing to the sdcard impacts the speed of opening apps.
Now, which is better? No idea ^^ Lol
Holly crap I'm enabling swap lol. Do I need to repartition my SD card for swap?
I wouldn't enable swap, you don't need it, zram us nifty but also not need. Your system can handle memory just fine without you. Just let it to its thing and you will be fine.
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I agree completely. My former device had a hack that we came up with that would force app2sd on a 2.1 build. This was great at the time but it cause some serious lag. We then enabled the swap to help with the memory issues. It worked for awhile but then all these apps started to come out that were, not to sound funny, memory hogs. This device only had 128mb of user RAM, so it was a constant struggle to get it working. Gotta remember that this was pre-GB times, so Froyo was the ICS of that time.
Here is more to read from this devices section about how swap works. The thread was revived on Post #9 and my explaination is Post#16.
Moral of the story is that I agree with Eco, let the phone work for you and not you against it. There are few memory issues with the Vibrant. Is it running 2gb of RAM? No but do you really need something like that on a phone?
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I agree completely. My former device had a hack that we came up with that would force app2sd on a 2.1 build. This was great at the time but it cause some serious lag. We then enabled the swap to help with the memory issues. It worked for awhile but then all these apps started to come out that were, not to sound funny, memory hogs. This device only had 128mb of user RAM, so it was a constant struggle to get it working. Gotta remember that this was pre-GB times, so Froyo was the ICS of that time.
Here is more to read from this devices section about how swap works. The thread was revived on Post #9 and my explaination is Post#16.
Moral of the story is that I agree with Eco, let the phone work for you and not you against it. There are few memory issues with the Vibrant. Is it running 2gb of RAM? No but do you really need something like that on a phone?
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Exactly, Android is designed for low Memory systems. It can handle out of Memory situations on its own, and will kill unneeded apps as is necessary to free ram for running apps. Don't worry about how much "free" ram you have because it doesn't matter. You want more free ram learn to set the ram usage settings to be more aggressive at killing idle apps. It'll and up using more battery, but if free ram is what you want then that's how to do it.
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Woody said:
I agree completely. My former device had a hack that we came up with that would force app2sd on a 2.1 build. This was great at the time but it cause some serious lag. We then enabled the swap to help with the memory issues. It worked for awhile but then all these apps started to come out that were, not to sound funny, memory hogs. This device only had 128mb of user RAM, so it was a constant struggle to get it working. Gotta remember that this was pre-GB times, so Froyo was the ICS of that time.
Here is more to read from this devices section about how swap works. The thread was revived on Post #9 and my explaination is Post#16.
Moral of the story is that I agree with Eco, let the phone work for you and not you against it. There are few memory issues with the Vibrant. Is it running 2gb of RAM? No but do you really need something like that on a phone?
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Woody said:
There are few memory issues with the Vibrant. Is it running 2gb of RAM? No but do you really need something like that on a phone?
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Actually, yes. There are certain apps, like Facebook, Whatsapp, Skype and probably more, that have their background services running even if you close the app. Those services are for sending notification, but they are slowing down this device very much (Even if only the Facebook service is running). So I do feel the device does not handle memory so good. And I can't blame it, since it has a limited memory, but I do wish I had more RAM.
Don't enable zram or swap unless you have the EU bug or like your shizz lag like a mo'fo'. If your phone is playing nicely, then disable both. Allow Purging of Assets also.Set it to two processes in Dev Section.
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... Set it to two processes in Dev Section.
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By this do you mean the "Background Process Limits"?
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hey devil, got a question for you...
any particular reason why you removed zRAM from your kernel? i was wondering if you could elaborate a little bit on why it isn't necessary on this device.
Thanks man
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Xenoism said:
zram basically compresses unused apps within the system RAM. This allows the system to swap less needed processes to the zram partition for faster access at a later time, instead of killing them. This does take up some of your ram though, so I imagine that the value you are setting is determining exactly what percentage of your ram that the zram partition is allotted.
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Not really needed on our device that have 2gb of ram memory.
Have ever been in a situation where you have been out of free ram? Neither have I.
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Our devices don't have 2gb ram memory. They have 512mb ram memory
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cannondaleV2000 said:
Our devices don't have 2gb ram memory. They have 512mb ram memory
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I was wondering if it is possible to defragment phone memory on android devices especially s3,to gain more responsive phone.
Because when to much app is installed on the phone it gets slowing down a bit especially with scattered deleting...
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Not necessary. If it lags with a lot of apps installed then uninstall some apps.
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Actually i use all the apps installed
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Are you talking about RAM or SSD fragmentation?
Both are different topics but more or less irrelevant.
First off, Samsung uses the EXT4 filesystem which - like it's predecessor EXT filesystems - is rather resilient against fragmentation and handles it quite good without too much of a performance impact, especially due to new features such as delayed allocation.
Secondly we are talking about a high-speed SSD drive, not some old lame-ass hard-disk. Random access on SSDdrives is typically not much slower than continues access (unlike platter drives where random access is the drive's death sentence).
Because when to much app is installed on the phone it gets slowing down a bit especially with scattered deleting...
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My guess is that some of your apps are registering listeners or running as a service in the background, taking away precious RAM.
By having less RAM, the device can cache less and thus the performance degrades. (The same applies when using task killers!)
If you need all your background services, using a zRAM-enabled kernel (e.g. Siyah) is a very good method for at least reducing the footprint.
I typically give 300MB to zRAM which makes the phone a lot snappier. (Until the damn JB memory leak bug strikes again)
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Actually i use all the apps installed
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There is no defragment option in android..the memory management in linux is quite different from that in windows..
Guess you could perform a full nandroid backup followed by a restore, not sure how beneficial this would be
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On my device it starts out taking up about 70mb of ram but continually grows.
To check, go to settings->apps->running->show cached process.
Please help me here, I dont know if this is normal or not. It goes from 70 to 300mb of cached ram usage in a matter of hours.
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On my device it starts out taking up about 70mb of ram but continually grows.
To check, go to settings->apps->running->show cached process.
Please help me here, I dont know if this is normal or not. It goes from 70 to 300mb of cached ram usage in a matter of hours.
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IIRC, cached process is for background apps that are still in memory simply because there is enough memory to do so. If the device is short of memory, these cached processes will be cleared.
Does the memory issue cause you actual problems?
Severage said:
On my device it starts out taking up about 70mb of ram but continually grows.
To check, go to settings->apps->running->show cached process.
Please help me here, I dont know if this is normal or not. It goes from 70 to 300mb of cached ram usage in a matter of hours.
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Dolphin actually works for you? Well I'll be damned. Are you rooted or just straight stock?
The poster above is correct in what he said, the only time to worry about it is if it causes a device slowdown. If you're worried about it you can always go to the recent page and clear it out.
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Thx for the help . I'm rooted. No, the browser does eventually get laggy when the cache size gets really high. I've set Tasker to kill dolphin when the screen goes off to reset the cache, which seems to work.
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Using dolphin on my rooted Team Baked tab and have zero issues. Infact, hasnt been rebooted in a few weeks, and dolphins never been closed. Same 9 open tabs and smooth as butter.
Dolphin and jet pack on stock tablet z.
Best browser ever. Why should I care about memory 2GB is a lot
With my 2 bad eyes I can watch only one wide at a time and usually do not stream music from another at the same time.
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Same problem on all browses on many devices at the moment for many people. It comes from a problem in android latest releases which is hopefully going to be addressed. Nice to be able to say that this device is not affected because saved by relatively large ram but others not so lucky with apps slowing down and freezing, one guy on another forum. has said chrome reached the heady heights of 400MB :-o
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I am using Dolphin on my XTZ (non-rooted 4.1.2 stock). After a few hours of browsing the used RAM goes to 400-500 Mb.. And Dolphin actually slows down and sometimes freezes for seconds, so I have to restart it.
Lately I started using Chrome.. seems to handle better browsing for hours.
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I am using Dolphin on my XTZ (non-rooted 4.1.2 stock). After a few hours of browsing the used RAM goes to 400-500 Mb.. And Dolphin actually slows down and sometimes freezes for seconds, so I have to restart it.
Lately I started using Chrome.. seems to handle better browsing for hours.
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I love you. You have convinced me this issue is not a hardware defect or something (I dont know how rogue memory leaks would be a hardware defect but w/e). You also saved me from additional anger by factory resetting my tablet only to find the issue still persisting.
Gosh, I love this tablet so much despite its flaws, I really want to keep it. My last (5) nexus 10s would randomly reboot multiple times a day from the freaking system ui having a memory leak, and it took a year for Google to fix it with 4.3.
Anyway, turning off Javascript helps immensely. Still, after a few days, the browser is taking up over 200mb of ram, but it is a far cry from the 400mb in 2 hours that usually happens.
Anyone have any idea?
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, do you Know if 4.2.2 will fix this when it's released? Sorry for double post.
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, do you Know if 4.2.2 will fix this when it's released? Sorry for double post.
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As far as I've read on other forums here and other sites..... No! Latest upgrade to 4.3 on galaxy nexus has, if anything, made it worse...I tried it on a Gnex and can confirm that to be the case
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Well that's just dandy. Honestly thinking about getting an ipad right now . Sure, ios is a bit more boring, but it at least works. Nexus 10 was plagued by a memory leak, and it was 8 months before Google for anything. Now I can't properly browse or use bluetooth, as that affects Internet.
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is there really a bad effect on sdcards using swap or its just minimal when used in a prolonged time?
Very minimal in my experience, been using swap of and on for years and never had an sdcard go out on me. Even have used methods to turn internal phone memory into a swap partition and never killed a phone
Have said all this, there is a risk and swap will for sure not always make your device faster, sometime slower, but good for multitasking a lot on devices with little ram.
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