Hello,
Do you think that the SG3 warm up because CPU is over using by process ?
because i play with "Quest and sorcery" and the SG3 warm up (by using 3G for one part ), but it doesn't a heavy user of 3D.
Do you think it doesn't necessary to use all the 4th Core ?
And do you think it can be fix by an update of ICS or it must be by a better coding of applications ?
Thanks
Usually apps do not use all 4 cores. Games usually have up to 3 threads; Graphics, Player-Interaction/Map and AI.
However your phone is running more than only the game simultaneously so the 4 cores do help.
3G, depending on your network signal, creates noticeably heat.
Is it really that bad or are you just wondering?
I'm sure there is potential to reduce the CPU-usage of the systems (there are experimental patches out there) but 99% of what you are experiencing is either the app or it's requirements.
Thanks,
I just wondering.
But i found the SG3 is too much warm (up to 53°C, 2 or 3 times and medium is 20-31°C ). and i want to know if i must wait for samsung/google or the authors of apps for a solution.
OR if i'm damned, change my phone ( but i think all is normal a this point)
bye
Guys i've been wanting to buy HOX+ .. but i heard a lot of talk about the device overheating and also lagging cuz of the lack of RAM !!
plz i'm really confused here .. i like the stock sense interface a lot .. i got used to it and have been using it since i bought my HTC Incredible S even after trying a lot of different ROMS i came back to stock ...
I need HONEST opinions plz ... i'm a student and so far getting money is really hard for me ... i don't wanna buy something that i might regret buying later, or having to stick with it while i'm not satisfied... my questions are :
1. Does the HOX+ feel laggy when using the stock sense ?
2. What's with the overheating problem ? usually they say that it starts overheating and reaching temps of 55 and highier sometimes when gaming .. is that true ?!
3. Does it really lack RAM ? or is it the sense consuming a lot which makes it lag ? and will the sense 5 be lighter on the device than sense 4+ ?
4. and ofc .. should i buy or not ?
To anyone who will answer .. your help is much appreciated !! thanx a bunch in advance !!
Happy one x+ owner since february (would have bought the One but that 32gb think is definitely a no go, and i never bought anything but htc since 2007, but had the opportunity to play around with loads of gs2 and 3s...)
Enough with the intro, in everyday use its perfect, 1gig of ram is plenty for normal use, itll always sit between 680 and 870 with the stock rom. If you use it heavily, youll get no more lag than with any other android phone with 1gig of ram (example, try and launch skype, youtube, real racing, a heavy webpage and switch between them a lot and real quick with a gs3, same result.. worst case scenario, the phone will not respond for 20secs max and happens to me 1-2times/month tops).
Heats a lot, theres no denying that, while on heavy games (again, real racing, shadowgun, nfs, asphalt and drains battery pretty quick with those apps).
On a gps app (tomtom, navigon,...) It also heats a lot but then, the problem is that it also will stop charging (ex, with a car kit-charger) because of high voltage and will wait until its cooled down to go further with charging.
It feels just a tiny bit less snappier than a gs3 but nothing really noticeable.
Again, 64gb it something to own, all my music (10gigs) my game roms (15 gigs) and my apps and games (25gigs) still allow me some room to take loads pf pics and shoot videos.
Im on stock 4.1.2, still havent felt the need to flash anything on it and reports say that ot feels even snappier with sense 5, which appearently will use 100mb of ram less, says another xda fellow on the update post.
I have a german phone in belgium (same region) so i can update as soon as i get my update.
One tip though, since we cant remove the battery, i have planned on killing it to send it sometime close the the end of my warranty period for htc to replace it.
Last think i really appreciate, is that the case of this phone os made of rubber, which makes it very resistant to dropping and shocks (already fell 5times on concrete and the screen is intact - lucky me maybe?)
Sorry for the long post, i hope i could help bring the light on your interrogations.
Got mine brand new on ebay for 440€ btw.
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Thanx a lot for the detailed review mate .. I couldn't hope for anything better !! I guess if those things don't bother you that much .. then they shouldn't bother me either !!
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Hiken_Ace said:
Guys i've been wanting to buy HOX+ .. but i heard a lot of talk about the device overheating and also lagging cuz of the lack of RAM !!
plz i'm really confused here .. i like the stock sense interface a lot .. i got used to it and have been using it since i bought my HTC Incredible S even after trying a lot of different ROMS i came back to stock ...
I need HONEST opinions plz ... i'm a student and so far getting money is really hard for me ... i don't wanna buy something that i might regret buying later, or having to stick with it while i'm not satisfied... my questions are :
1. Does the HOX+ feel laggy when using the stock sense ?
Not during normal use. The only time I've seen it lag is when an app is misbehaving, which doesn't happen often
2. What's with the overheating problem ? usually they say that it starts overheating and reaching temps of 55 and highier sometimes when gaming .. is that true ?!
It does get pretty toasty. I hit the thermal cut-off (where the phone turns off on its own) once. If you see the green/red light flashing, stop doing what it is that you're doing and let it cool down.
OR you can download SU Root Tools from the market (it's free) and set a CPU temp status in the notification bar so you know what it's at. You can also have it sound an alarm when it goes above a certain temp. (It repeats "CPU temperature hot" over and over till it goes below the threshold you set)
3. Does it really lack RAM ? or is it the sense consuming a lot which makes it lag ? and will the sense 5 be lighter on the device than sense 4+ ?
Not in my opinion.
4. and ofc .. should i buy or not ?
No. You should send me the money and I'll buy another one. :highfive: lol
To anyone who will answer .. your help is much appreciated !! thanx a bunch in advance !!
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Thank u sir !! Much appreciated .. this overheating thingy .. it can get pretty nasty I see .. that's bad :/ well i don't play games that much .. not the heavy ones atleast .. anyway thanx again mate !
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No problem. Not sure when the flashing warning lights come on, but I have the cpu temp in the notification bar like I said and the alarm set to 60. Anything over that, IMO, is too much.
And honestly, you'll feel it. You can feel it on the back and on the screen itself (at the top half).
Wahhh 60 ? The highest battery temp i hv got so far is 45.
I seldom play heavy games and i use my hox+ for whatsapping and chatting, listening to music and some internet browsing only, may sometimes play casual games, so the phone is really snappy on me.
In my opinion it really depends on ur usage, if u take photos/listen to music a lot HOX+ is definitely ur choice, but if u r going to flash ROMs/ doing a lot of multitasking maybe Nexus 4 suits u better
PS I'm on stock 4.1 rom, Sense 5 update hvnt reached my CID_622 yet
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Hiken_Ace said:
Guys i've been wanting to buy HOX+ .. but i heard a lot of talk about the device overheating and also lagging cuz of the lack of RAM !!
plz i'm really confused here .. i like the stock sense interface a lot .. i got used to it and have been using it since i bought my HTC Incredible S even after trying a lot of different ROMS i came back to stock ...
I need HONEST opinions plz ... i'm a student and so far getting money is really hard for me ... i don't wanna buy something that i might regret buying later, or having to stick with it while i'm not satisfied... my questions are :
1. Does the HOX+ feel laggy when using the stock sense ?
2. What's with the overheating problem ? usually they say that it starts overheating and reaching temps of 55 and highier sometimes when gaming .. is that true ?!
3. Does it really lack RAM ? or is it the sense consuming a lot which makes it lag ? and will the sense 5 be lighter on the device than sense 4+ ?
4. and ofc .. should i buy or not ?
To anyone who will answer .. your help is much appreciated !! thanx a bunch in advance !!
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HTC One X+ is a great phone! Only if you want to play heavy demanding games, it maybe isn't the phone you're looking for. Don't get me wrong, performance of tegra 3 SoC is really good, but it is not the best for games anymore. But as far as i found our, the (most of times) small lags are related to GPU performance. And the "overheating problem" only occurs when playing really hardware demanding games.
But if gaming is only aminor matter to you, i think it is still a good choice! It has everything you need: more than enough cpu power for daily tasks, 64GB of memory and 1GB of ram, which is also enough for everything you could normally do.
And Thanks to the devs here there is still room for improvements, if you like to flash custom kernels and roms!
I use mine for gps a lot to track my runs with Endomondo and I've never had any heat from my HOX+, with some games yeah it gets hot but I'm in Vietnam so everything gets hot here anyway. Ive never had any freezes or shut downs due to heat. On average I get 2 days on the battery with light gaming, alot of sms, viber, Facebook and some browsing when I'm outside along with music. Overall I'm quite happy with this phone.
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Thanx a lot everybody .... Ur feedback was really helpful ! I guess I'm buying the phone !!
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Actually heating has pretty much been fixed due to undervolting, cpu quiet governor an gpu decoupling, the gpu can run at full speed and the cpu can run at a lower frequency and voltage with more cores active. With sense 5, many of these tweaks aren`t even necessary as it uses a two stage ondemand which gives great idle and light usage batterylife and good performance when needed in games. Ram problems are also gone with sense 5, unreal engine 3 games used to reload the launcher in 4+ but in 5, even the animations remain smooth with the app in the background. The already great One X+ got even better with the sense 5 update.
ryanjsoo said:
Actually heating has pretty much been fixed due to undervolting, cpu quiet governor an gpu decoupling, the gpu can run at full speed and the cpu can run at a lower frequency and voltage with more cores active. With sense 5, many of these tweaks aren`t even necessary as it uses a two stage ondemand which gives great idle and light usage batterylife and good performance when needed in games. Ram problems are also gone with sense 5, unreal engine 3 games used to reload the launcher in 4+ but in 5, even the animations remain smooth with the app in the background. The already great One X+ got even better with the sense 5 update.
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Thanx a lot bro !! U just made my day with these news !! I'm definitely buying it
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Hiken_Ace said:
Thanx a lot bro !! U just made my day with these news !! I'm definitely buying it
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You should also buy it because Justin Bieber approves of this phone :thumbup:
ryanjsoo said:
. With sense 5, many of these tweaks aren`t even necessary as it uses a two stage ondemand which gives great idle and light usage batterylife and good performance when needed in games. Ram problems are also gone with sense 5, unreal engine 3 games used to reload the launcher in 4+ but in 5, even the animations remain smooth with the app in the background. The already great One X+ got even better with the sense 5 update.
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True story ( the one x plus became the ( ! Iron man plus ! :victory: )
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You should also buy it because Justin Bieber approves of this phone :thumbup:
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Why .. why why ????
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hi
i have my hox+ for 1yr and i haven't experience any problem it does get hot when the cpu is at full capacity but is not a problem for me i get 1 1/2 to 2 days of moderate use.this is my gps my router my laptop my media player and it have never let me down so this is a phone that you will not regret buying trust me on this one. my wife have the gs3 and my brother in law have the iphone 5 and my phone is kicking ass......
The device does not lack ram. End of the day it has double the min requirements to run windows 7.....
Also on overheating .... It's a myth... Yeah the device does get hot. But what do you expect? When you put a fairly powerful quad core soc in a device with no cooling and little ventilation. It's gunna get hot. But all the overheating hype is cause by people who don't actually know what safe temps are. They feel the outside of there case get hot and start to worry, but they don't get that the phone has to dissipate heat some how.....
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AndroHero said:
The device does not lack ram. End of the day it has double the min requirements to run windows 7.....
Also on overheating .... It's a myth... Yeah the device does get hot. But what do you expect? When you put a fairly powerful quad core soc in a device with no cooling and little ventilation. It's gunna get hot. But all the overheating hype is cause by people who don't actually know what safe temps are. They feel the outside of there case get hot and start to worry, but they don't get that the phone has to dissipate heat some how.....
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Which temperatures are considered as overheating?
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jizang said:
Which temperatures are considered as overheating?
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The cpu will throttle down before reaching unhealthy temperatures (I don't know the exact value). The only critical problem is the battery, which shouldn't be exposed to too high temperatures over longer periods of time.
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but if you are a heavy user like me, you will have to brought a charger with you... and charge it twice a day
Hi guys , I just bought a galaxy s6 Edge today and first thing I did I download an tutu*
Done my first test got 69k . It's a very good score . After few hours of downloading apps ...ect I ran antutu again and sadly I found 45k score I was really scared I also said that it must me my surcharged CPU and GPU I turn off phone for like 15 min then started again , I did test again and I found 55k , is that normal ? Will I get my 69k back if I give my phone some rest or that's not normal my phone lost a CPU ? It's it first day*
Please answer me**thanks.
Hi again I actually found problems, I shouldn't make test while energy economy is enable ^^ . Now I got my 69k back . THx ,please reply me again to tell me if that was the problem .
Thanks I'm happy now
MYusgn said:
Hi guys , I just bought a galaxy s6 Edge today and first thing I did I download an tutu*
Done my first test got 69k . It's a very good score . After few hours of downloading apps ...ect I ran antutu again and sadly I found 45k score I was really scared I also said that it must me my surcharged CPU and GPU I turn off phone for like 15 min then started again , I did test again and I found 55k , is that normal ? Will I get my 69k back if I give my phone some rest or that's not normal my phone lost a CPU ? It's it first day*
Please answer me**thanks.
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Wouldn't worry too much about that. I have a custom kernel and hit 70k. My old note 4 used to hit at least 54 k but on usage in terms of smoothness etc it goes on par with the s6. Equally if you visit the nexus 5x forum you will find it ranges from 44 to 54 kk. So it's not really about the benchmark scores. It's all about how smooth and fast it is for you as antutu scores dont tell the whole story.
Hi Guyz
My redmi note 4 (MTK).. have been unstable when gaming.. it keep lagging after some time.. total play time is just about 40 minute and the game already start lagging...
Solution that i have tried.
- Developer option
turn off all animation
miui optimization off
memory management off
i also noticed this phone get really hot very fast.. its the main reason for my lag??? please help.. i have thinking to root this phone and tried the tweak and disable bloatware its a good idea?
please advice !!
SlamberGamer said:
Hi Guyz
My redmi note 4 (MTK).. have been unstable when gaming.. it keep lagging after some time.. total play time is just about 40 minute and the game already start lagging...
Solution that i have tried.
- Developer option
turn off all animation
miui optimization off
memory management off
i also noticed this phone get really hot very fast.. its the main reason for my lag??? please help.. i have thinking to root this phone and tried the tweak and disable bloatware its a good idea?
please advice !!
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It's a good idea to remove the bloatware, but it won't help you with lag. Temperatures get high and the phone automatically lowers the perfomance, because the phone would otherwise have problems with overheating.
May be out of line: but
Seem to conform same reaction.It is my impression that (lag ! Never had overheating) Is caused by proximity of other sensor or fingers to nearby to thé borders of thé screen.
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dreuzel said:
May be out of line: but
Seem to conform same reaction.It is my impression that (lag ! Never had overheating) Is caused by proximity of other sensor or fingers to nearby to thé borders of thé screen.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn Redmi Note 4 met Tapatalk
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As i already wrote somewhere on the thread. There is a difference between, "my phone is overheating" and "my phone gets hot while playing games, etc...". I have the same lags. You can test the speed of cpu, etc.. while you play games, and you will understand whats the problem. Phone is turning of cores, and underclocks the cpu to prevent overheating. That's why games start to lag after some time playing.
ekin_strops said:
As i already wrote somewhere on the thread. There is a difference between, "my phone is overheating" and "my phone gets hot while playing games, etc...". I have the same lags. You can test the speed of cpu, etc.. while you play games, and you will understand whats the problem. Phone is turning of cores, and underclocks the cpu to prevent overheating. That's why games start to lag after some time playing.
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sometimes it occure just after 10 minute of gaming.. i dont think overheat is the main issue here... btw im playing mid end game.. the name is mobile legend.. maybe its somthing to do with my current rom/.. its global international stable version
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sometimes it occure just after 10 minute of gaming.. i dont think overheat is the main issue here... btw im playing mid end game.. the name is mobile legend.. maybe its somthing to do with my current rom/.. its global international stable version
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Even ten minutes is enough for a 10 core procesor, with two A72 clocked to 2.0ghz+. I'm not sure about the rom. I tried it on china stable which is much better than global stable except the bloatware, and it's the same. Maybe some optimization for the processor would be good. I had Xperia M4 Aqua, which has SD procesor, and had a lot of heating problems. But there, i could tweak by myself the cpu temp settings, and i would achive better and more perfomance on games with the price of more temperature of course, and yes i'm aware of the temperature affect on cpu life span. On MTK, unfortunately, i couldn't find such a files for tweaking the cpu temp, etc...
I use epic ROM..I don't have lag issues with this...I can play smoother such as asphalt 8 , nova, NBA etc...
I came from many Roms China stable and dev...global dev and stable and I knew how it was. Those stock roms were buggy....
odnamniutad said:
I use epic ROM..I don't have lag issues with this...I can play smoother such as asphalt 8 , nova, NBA etc...
I came from many Roms China stable and dev...global dev and stable and I knew how it was. Those stock roms were buggy....
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Notice any difference regarding battery life? compared with stock china/global stable ROM.
I have the latest Global Beta and my phone is always stable and doesn't really heat up that much, i just spent like an hour and a half playing fifa mobile, talking via facebook messenger and listening to music on spoyify and everything was just fine !!
Silvers91 said:
Notice any difference regarding battery life? compared with stock china/global stable ROM.
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There is no difference between China and global regarding battery performance. Both consumed much battery even in deep sleep with at least 2% per hour.
I'm using Redmi Note 4 MTK 4GB+64GB with MIUI 8.2.1.0.
Please do not charge and play Mobile Legends at the same time.
That's based on my experience for the last 3 days using Redmi Note 4 MTK and MIUI 8.2.1.0 and playing Mobile Legends.
Phone will gets hot (too hot in my opinion), and the battery charge won't lasts, ends up it will decrease the battery even though you're charging it.
I'm using 2.1A Samsung charger.
With my S5 Cosmic OS ROM, I still can charge (increase in percentage), while playing Mobile Legends.
What I do is, charge my phone to a desirable level, maybe 80-90% (where the charging tends to get slower), then plug out and play Mobile Legends.
Your phone will get warm, but not hot, and performance would not deteriorated.
hi guyz regarding this problem... MTK chip suck so much it give me nightmare.. so i decided to sell the phone and buy xiomi mi max.. best solution ever..i even buy two mimax... its that good.. thank you all