My wife used my upgrade to get the Galaxy S4 for me but allow me to keep unlimited data. When we got the phone she activated it on her line with the included SIM, then deactivated it and switched back to her iPhone. I then popped the 4G SIM out of my gnex and into the S4. It worked right away, connected to the Verizon network with my phone number and I can call/text/get 3G service.
However, I have not yet had a connection to any LTE network (it's been 24 hours now.) I live in an area where I had LTE pretty much everywhere with my gnex. Anybody else have LTE problems, or data problems at all after doing a SIM swap?
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I don't have an answer to your question, but I want to know how your upgrade worked without losing Unlimited Data.
If I understand you correctly, you're saying that you have 2 lines on your account and yours has Unlimited and yours was eligible for an upgrade (so no longer under contract or at the end of your current contract). And, your wife's line does not have Unlimited and she was NOT eligible for an upgrade. So, she did an upgrade on your line, but activated it on her line. And that allowed you to keep your Unlimited.
I don't understand how that can work. That would imply that your wife essentially added a second contract to her line, but I don't think that works.
If what your saying works like I interpreted it, then it seems that I could add a line to my account and activate a dumbphone (that I already have) on it, so there's no contract on that line. Then I could use the upgrade I have available on my primary line to get an S4. Then activate it on my new second line, thus keeping Unlimited Data on my primary line. Then I could deactive the S4 from the second line, switching that line back to my dumbphone. Then activate the S4 on my primary line. Then cancel the second line altogether.
Are you saying that would work?
The way i understand it, is when "your" upgrade is used, it doesn't matter by whom, your line reverts to 2 gb.
That's what I would expect, too. But then there's this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41748941&postcount=6
Hey, badenglishihave's wife here. Before the upgrade we both had unlimited data and he was eligible for an upgrade. What he did was transfer the upgrade to my line in My Verizon. Then when we got the GS4, I activated it on my line which forced MY line to switch to 2GB, but extend the contract on HIS line while keeping unlimited. Then I switched back to my iPhone and he put his SIM in the GS4. My parents did the same exact thing in October with the iPhone 5.
Thanks, gurase! Definitely looks like a loophole that I am going to try to exploit!
I had the same issue with mine not getting 4g service, go to a verizon store and get a new sim card. The one that came out of my old Nexus did not activate correctly on my s4 but just enough for 3g and voice to work. Once I got a new sim the activation took a while at the store and I had awesome 4g service again. (and it was free no charge for any of it)
yeah it's always free to get a new sim card in case it fails they just set up a new one. BOOM!
I have a dummy line for this very reason. I have a dumb phone on that line. Each line is technically it's own contract. I transfer an available upgrade to the dummy phone line, upgrade against that line and then deactivate the new phone and reactivate it on my main line. Never lost unlimited on any of the three lines that have unlimited. It only affects the line the upgrade was used against, not the originating line.
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I have a dummy line for this very reason. I have a dumb phone on that line. Each line is technically it's own contract. I transfer an available upgrade to the dummy phone line, upgrade against that line and then deactivate the new phone and reactivate it on my main line. Never lost unlimited on any of the three lines that have unlimited. It only affects the line the upgrade was used against, not the originating line.
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So, why not cancel the dummy line after you finish moving your new phone over to the Unlimited line? I mean, why keep paying an extra $13 a month in between upgrades?
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Hi guys so just like most of you in here, I'm waiting on the galaxy s4 for Verizon. I am currently eligible for an upgrade, but I have a question regarding a a possible loophole for keeping my unlimited data. I share the account with my father along with 3 other lines. If I were to transfer the upgrade to another one of the lines and "upgrade" that line and then deactivate/reactivate on my line, would I be able to keep my unlimited data? And how would I go about doing this online with the preorder? Thanks for your time!
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There is a thread on here about keeping unlimited data. Do a search and you should find it.
You will lose the unlimited data on the line that's ready to upgrade, if you don't transfer it. If you decide to transfer the upgrade from the line that has the unlimited data, you'll be safe & won't lose it. I hope this helps.
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You will lose the unlimited data on the line that's ready to upgrade, if you don't transfer it. If you decide to transfer the upgrade from the line that has the unlimited data, you'll be safe & won't lose it. I hope this helps.
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Do what I did. I just bit the bullet and went to shared data but sold my unlimited data plans first.
I sold my wifes and mine for $750 combined. It will take years for me to make up that difference as I WFH three days a week so I am around wifi pretty much 5 out of 7 days.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I am going to try to just upgrade one of the other lines that's on a basic connection and then just activate the phone on my line when I get it. When I go to preorder online, it asks if I will be purchasing a SIM card and if not it asks for the SIM ID that I will be using. Should I purchase another SIM card or just give them mine? Im not sure of the process so I'm iffy about giving them my SIM ID because I'm not sure what that will do. any help is much appreciated.
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I am going to try to just upgrade one of the other lines that's on a basic connection and then just activate the phone on my line when I get it. When I go to preorder online, it asks if I will be purchasing a SIM card and if not it asks for the SIM ID that I will be using. Should I purchase another SIM card or just give them mine? Im not sure of the process so I'm iffy about giving them my SIM ID because I'm not sure what that will do. any help is much appreciated.
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Well, if the S4 is unlocked & your old SIM card is a micro SIM, you'll be fine using that. You might have some issues using your old SIM if the Verizon S4 isn't the unlocked version...
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Well, if the S4 is unlocked & your old SIM card is a micro SIM, you'll be fine using that. You might have some issues using your old SIM if the Verizon S4 isn't the unlocked version...
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Do what I did. I just bit the bullet and went to shared data but sold my unlimited data plans first.
I sold my wifes and mine for $750 combined. It will take years for me to make up that difference as I WFH three days a week so I am around wifi pretty much 5 out of 7 days.
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How do you "sell" these plans? I have two unlimited lines and one 4GB/$30 line that I would like to sell off, as we will likely not buy the phones at full price.
If you have an upgrade available on another line you can use that, but you need to first activate it onthe line you bought it for, then transfer it to the unlimited line.
Another prospective option ive considered and decided against is starting a new line, paying $199.99 plus $30 activation, and then immediately terminating for $350. You get it for $70 plus tax cheaper than paying full retail.
That $199 ends up being just over $300 when you finally click submit. $50 MIR makes it $249.99 to start.
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I've had success in transfering the upgrade to the basic line on my account that did not have data. Once you get the phone, reactivate the basic phone on the basic line. Then activate the new phone on your original upgrade line with unlimited data.
OT: I ended up ditching unlimited. The extra $$/mon savings was worth more than keeping it. I'm on wifi for about 90% of my data anyway. My employer-provided (yes, I keep separation btwn work/personal) phone still has unlimited and I can tether to it if I need to.
Hey guys; new here, awaiting the Verizon GS4
I had luck when the iPhone 5 came out keeping my unlimited Data. We have 5 lines with two still on unlimited, 3 on the 2gb. With 5 we almost always have at least one available for an upgrade. I was on a Galaxy Nexus with unlimited and I upgraded another line that had a 2gb plan. When the phone arrived I simply did the switch online with the new imei and the nano sim on my unlimited line replacing my Nexus. Everything went smooth.
Since then I purchased a nano sim adapter and have often switched back and forth between the iPhone and the Nexus; I'm Nerdy that way. No problem switching the sim between phones. I run whichever phone I want depending on my mood. My nexus is fully rooted and running the Sourcery Custome ROM and the latest Franco Kernal.
What I did was this: My wifes ona share everything plan while I still have unlimited. We added a line to HER share everything plan, got the S4 @200$... And I will just swap devices on VZW website from the bionic I use now. My mother in law works for VZW said I should be able to just put my unlimited SIM in the S4, and it will work right away...However, may need to activate it on the line line, deactivate it, put on mine.... (We have tablets for our kids just incase they require a device on that new line, we will simply give one of those access)
Good luck...
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I've had success in transfering the upgrade to the basic line on my account that did not have data. Once you get the phone, reactivate the basic phone on the basic line. Then activate the new phone on your original upgrade line with unlimited data.
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what happens to the basic line after deactivating it ( since u have to put it on a data plan for it to have smartphone...) do u have to call and cancle the data or will that happen automatically after deactivating smartphone and putting old "dumb" phone back on it? will this result in a fee?
Thanks in advanced to anyone who can help...
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what happens to the basic line after deactivating it ( since u have to put it on a data plan for it to have smartphone...) do u have to call and cancle the data or will that happen automatically after deactivating smartphone and putting old "dumb" phone back on it? will this result in a fee?
Thanks in advanced to anyone who can help...
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Hello all, this might not be the right place to post this but I was looking for some help/advice.
I currently have unlimited data and an upgrade available. My wife's line is already on a 2GB plan.
I transferred my upgrade to her line and bought the S4 with her line, should be here tomorrow.
My question is, do I have to activate it on her phone first? Or can I simply just activate it on my line? I have been looking around the interwebs but have not been able to find a clear answer.
Some people say it takes 24hrs before I can transfer it to my line. Can I just activate it on her line and then go into a Verizon store to get a new SIM and swap it to my line? Or can I do it online? Sorry for the redundant questions and I appreciate any help!
Yes, if the contract on your line is extended. You will lose the unlimited data regardless of who you activate on first. The way it works is to use her upgrade and do an ESN change after.
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I did this exact thing. Upgraded my mom's line which has a dumb phone. Activated it on her line, waited 5 minutes, turned it off and then went on the website and switched it over to me. Had to call Verizon to turn her original phone back on because it was still showing order pending on her line but the woman just entered the MEID and I foamedialed *228 and everything was good. So far nothing has changed, I still have unlimited but my mom's line is now extended for 2 years
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I did this exact thing. Upgraded my mom's line which has a dumb phone. Activated it on her line, waited 5 minutes, turned it off and then went on the website and switched it over to me. Had to call Verizon to turn her original phone back on because it was still showing order pending on her line but the woman just entered the MEID and I foamedialed *228 and everything was good. So far nothing has changed, I still have unlimited but my mom's line is now extended for 2 years
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I didn't even realize I had unlimited data on my 2.5 year old Droid X until I went to order the S4 a couple of days ago! I went ahead and upgraded my line, thinking my data usage is so limited anyway (because I thought I was limited) and I would be able to manage with the 2 GB they give us. Thinking it over and trying to find a loophole, I can across the method you just described.
I quickly cancelled my upgrade and upgraded my moms dumb phone to a S4 and am waiting for it to do exactly what you did. I was expecting to have to go into the store, but you were able to do everything from your home? And will it matter that I am moving over from a 3G device to 4G? Thanks!
Just to update:
I transfered the elegible upgrade from the Unlimited line to the line with 2GB plan and ordered the phone.
Once it arrieved, I activated it on the 2GB line as per the upgrade. I then replaced the S4 with the S3 that was previously on the line and transfered the S4 to my line, the one with unlimited data.
I am now on the S4 with Unlimited Data! My contract was extended for two years too. So, this does still work.
Thank you
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I transfered the elegible upgrade from the Unlimited line to the line with 2GB plan
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What, exactly does this mean? The line with the 2GB plan was not eligible for an upgrade, because that line was already under contract, but you were able to upgrade the phone on that line by extending the contract on your Unlimited line, without losing Unlimited?
If so, then what would stop me from buying a dumbphone and activating it on a new 2nd line, so I have no contract on that line. Then, use the upgrade from my Unlimited line to get an S4 for the second line - thus, extending the contract on my Unlimited line, keeping Unlimited, and having an S4 on the second line with no contract. Then, swap the S4 to my Unlimited line and then cancel the second line with no ETF or other penalty?
I'm thinking about doing this with my brother's 2GB upgrade. So just to reiterate. I order the phone on his line. He activates it with his new SIM card, has my old Rezound right now. After he activates the new , can I just swap my SIM from my old s3 into the new s4 or do I have to go through the switch device on my Verizon?
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I'm thinking about doing this with my brother's 2GB upgrade. So just to reiterate. I order the phone on his line. He activates it with his new SIM card, has my old Rezound right now. After he activates the new , can I just swap my SIM from my old s3 into the new s4 or do I have to go through the switch device on my Verizon?
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You're not talking about the same thing. You're talking about using his upgrade (a 2GB line that is eligible) to upgrade his line. Then do an ESN swap (can't just swap SIMs, I don't think) online to switch him back to his Rezound. Then do another ESN swap to change your line from whatever phone you're using to the S4. That is no problem.
This thread is about transferring an upgrade from an Unlimited line to a 2GB line and using it without losing the Unlimited.
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What, exactly does this mean? The line with the 2GB plan was not eligible for an upgrade, because that line was already under contract, but you were able to upgrade the phone on that line by extending the contract on your Unlimited line, without losing Unlimited?
If so, then what would stop me from buying a dumbphone and activating it on a new 2nd line, so I have no contract on that line. Then, use the upgrade from my Unlimited line to get an S4 for the second line - thus, extending the contract on my Unlimited line, keeping Unlimited, and having an S4 on the second line with no contract. Then, swap the S4 to my Unlimited line and then cancel the second line with no ETF or other penalty?
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Yes, I transfered the upgrade from My unlimited line, Upgrade was 5-11-13, to the 2GB line which was doesnt have an upgrade until 9-10-14. My unlimited line is now under contract till 5-20-15 with the S4 and unlimited data. The 2GB line still has upgrade on 9-10-14.
I have no idea about your question. I am sure they would not allow that. But, I dont know what the difference is.
Hopefully this helps. If not I am sorry. Maybe I just got lucky?
Thanks for posting the additional info, Churchryn. I would say you have definitely discovered a loophole in the system. And now I'm going to attempt to exploit it myself!
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Thanks for posting the additional info, Churchryn. I would say you have definitely discovered a loophole in the system. And now I'm going to attempt to exploit it myself!
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I plan on doing the same, let us know how it goes
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You're not talking about the same thing. You're talking about using his upgrade (a 2GB line that is eligible) to upgrade his line. Then do an ESN swap (can't just swap SIMs, I don't think) online to switch him back to his Rezound. Then do another ESN swap to change your line from whatever phone you're using to the S4. That is no problem.
This thread is about transferring an upgrade from an Unlimited line to a 2GB line and using it without losing the Unlimited.
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You will have to go into a Verizon Wireless store to reactivate the Rezound because once you deactivate a SIM card, it is deactivated forever! At least this was the case for me with phone swapping a Rezound and Galaxy S4.
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If so, then what would stop me from buying a dumbphone and activating it on a new 2nd line, so I have no contract on that line. Then, use the upgrade from my Unlimited line to get an S4 for the second line - thus, extending the contract on my Unlimited line, keeping Unlimited, and having an S4 on the second line with no contract. Then, swap the S4 to my Unlimited line and then cancel the second line with no ETF or other penalty?
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This works, up to the point of cancelling the second line. You can add a second line with a dumbphone, upgrade it, switch it to your line and then remove data from the second line. But you have to keep that second line open for the contract at the $10 a month or whatever it is.
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You will have to go into a Verizon Wireless store to reactivate the Rezound because once you deactivate a SIM card, it is deactivated forever! At least this was the case for me with phone swapping a Rezound and Galaxy S4.
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You can use the new SIM that came with the S4 to run the rezound. However, Rezound uses full size SIM and S3/4 use microSIM. So you would need to purchase a cheap adapter to use the new microSIM in the full size SIM slot. Then you use your S3 SIM in the new S4. ESN swap is only needed for non-4G phones.
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Yes, I transfered the upgrade from My unlimited line, Upgrade was 5-11-13, to the 2GB line which was doesnt have an upgrade until 9-10-14. My unlimited line is now under contract till 5-20-15 with the S4 and unlimited data. The 2GB line still has upgrade on 9-10-14.
I have no idea about your question. I am sure they would not allow that. But, I dont know what the difference is.
Hopefully this helps. If not I am sorry. Maybe I just got lucky?
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I'm fairly certain you gamed the system. I've been told and have gone through numerous upgrade transfers where if the upgrade was originating from the unlimited data line, no matter where it goes or what happens, the unlimited data line will lose unlimited data. Either upgrading it or transferring the upgrade, it will go away. If this didn't happen to you, I suspect someone either helped you out in a certain way, or just simply made a mistake.
My point would be, I wouldn't rely on this system to be 100% correct all the time. Upgrading and trying to get around loopholes is very hit and miss depending on who you talk to and which store you go to.
It is entirely possible that my occurance was a happy accident. But, I am still glad that this happened. I have been checking regularly to ensure that my account is still unlimited. I did do it all online with no interaction from the store, maybe the automated process makes it a little easier?
Anyway, I am really liking the S4. Rooted with TWRP waiting for ROMs.
I hope this helps anyone looking to to the same thing.
I too upgraded my sister in laws dumbphone to a s4. Activated it under her, immediately swapped sim cards to mine. Called to have her simless phone be put back in service and cancel data. It took about 10 minutes to rob her upgrade
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It appears that I am screwed. I'm on an Individual plan and I don't seem to be able to even add a second line at all without converting my existing line to a Family Share plan and losing my Unlimited.
Just did this on the 23rd:
Wife and I had 1400 minute shared family plan with unlimited data each, and a wifi hotspot device on its own little plan. Went to the verizon store and told them I wanted to upgrade my wifes Iphone. She doesn't use hardly any data. Upgraded her phone to the S4. They put her on a shared plan with the wifi hotspot and told me I could leave my minutes alone or bump them down to the 450 plan. Either way my data would stay intact. I left it be for now just to keep from changing to much. Since my wife wasn't with me, I told the guy to reactive her iphone so she wouldn't be without service, and she would come up later to reactivate. I went to another store and told them my wife didn't like the S4 but since I already paid for it, I wanted to try it. He popped a new sim card in and activated it. Plan the same, all is good. Once you pay for it, its yours. You can use it as you please. Now, when she wants to upgrade, I got to make a decision........pay full price, or lose my plan. But, that will be some time down the road.
You only need to activate it on her line (otherwise her phone number will be stuck with a pending upgrade) and then you can immediately activate it on your line. While I don't sell cell phones I'm in a Verizon wireless store all the time and I've seen it done
Hi All,
Long time member, but I haven't been active on this forum for a long time but I wanted to come in and give some details on how I managed to keep my unlimited data plan and still get a new subsidized phone. This was done through the wireless center at Costco, not sure if it will work at other places.
In order to do this you must have at least 2 phone lines on the account or be willing to open a new line. In the end 1 line will lose unlimited data but all other lines get to keep it.
Here is how this was done. I've got 3 lines on my account. 2 have unlimited data and 1 is on the 2GB plan. Only 1 of my unlimited lines were up for a renewal. I went in to my local Costco to check out the new phones. While talking to the sales guy, who turned out to be the manager, he told me that there was a way to keep my unlimited plan. I didn't really need unlimited on this line but I'd figure why not give it a shot. Worst-case I lose unlimited which wouldn't be a problem for this line. I tell the guy I need to know exactly what he is doing and he explains it step by step as he is doing it.
The way it works is that they have the ability to switch the upgrade date between different lines on the same account. For example, my contract on Line 1 expired back in May 2013, Line 3 (the 2GB plan line) doesn't expire until Jan 2014. He switched the dates for these lines. So now Line 3 is the one eligible for the renewal. He then renews the line which sets a new contract end date for Line 3 to June 2015. Line 1 now has a renewal date of Jan 2014. He activates the new phone under Line 3, which I confirmed by using my current phone to call Line 3 and the new phone rings. Then he reactivates the old phone back to Line 3. I call again and the old phone rings. He shows me the computer screen saying that Line 3 was just renewed with the 2GB plan with the new date. Line 1 shows a renewal date of Jan 2014 but still has the unlimited plan. he then activates the new phone under Line 1. I use the old Line 3 phone to call the new phone and it rings correctly. He shows me the computer screen and it shows the new phone on Line 1 with the unlimited plan and a renewal date of Jan 2014. He then switches the renewal dates back. Line 1 shows the unlimited plan with a renewal date of June 2015, Line 2 still shows unlimited data with it's same renewal date, and Line 3 shows the 2 GB plan with a renewal date of Jan 2014.
I take a moment and check my Verizon online account using my new phone and it shows that my plans have not changed. I just got my bill today and it still shows unlimited plans for Lines 1 and 2 and the 2 GB plan for Line 3, just as it is suppose to be.
Hopefully this will help others who might want to try this out.
B5Fan
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Hi All,
Long time member, but I haven't been active on this forum for a long time but I wanted to come in and give some details on how I managed to keep my unlimited data plan and still get a new subsidized phone. This was done through the wireless center at Costco, not sure if it will work at other places.
In order to do this you must have at least 2 phone lines on the account or be willing to open a new line. In the end 1 line will lose unlimited data but all other lines get to keep it.
Here is how this was done. I've got 3 lines on my account. 2 have unlimited data and 1 is on the 2GB plan. Only 1 of my unlimited lines were up for a renewal. I went in to my local Costco to check out the new phones. While talking to the sales guy, who turned out to be the manager, he told me that there was a way to keep my unlimited plan. I didn't really need unlimited on this line but I'd figure why not give it a shot. Worst-case I lose unlimited which wouldn't be a problem for this line. I tell the guy I need to know exactly what he is doing and he explains it step by step as he is doing it.
The way it works is that they have the ability to switch the upgrade date between different lines on the same account. For example, my contract on Line 1 expired back in May 2013, Line 3 (the 2GB plan line) doesn't expire until Jan 2014. He switched the dates for these lines. So now Line 3 is the one eligible for the renewal. He then renews the line which sets a new contract end date for Line 3 to June 2015. Line 1 now has a renewal date of Jan 2014. He activates the new phone under Line 3, which I confirmed by using my current phone to call Line 3 and the new phone rings. Then he reactivates the old phone back to Line 3. I call again and the old phone rings. He shows me the computer screen saying that Line 3 was just renewed with the 2GB plan with the new date. Line 1 shows a renewal date of Jan 2014 but still has the unlimited plan. he then activates the new phone under Line 1. I use the old Line 3 phone to call the new phone and it rings correctly. He shows me the computer screen and it shows the new phone on Line 1 with the unlimited plan and a renewal date of Jan 2014. He then switches the renewal dates back. Line 1 shows the unlimited plan with a renewal date of June 2015, Line 2 still shows unlimited data with it's same renewal date, and Line 3 shows the 2 GB plan with a renewal date of Jan 2014.
I take a moment and check my Verizon online account using my new phone and it shows that my plans have not changed. I just got my bill today and it still shows unlimited plans for Lines 1 and 2 and the 2 GB plan for Line 3, just as it is suppose to be.
Hopefully this will help others who might want to try this out.
B5Fan
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Thanks for sharing this with the community, but you can also do this at any Verizon wireless store and even online yourself. Verizon doesn't have a problem with this because they are still getting a line on the account under a new two year agreement.
I don't see how you can do this online. There is no way to change the renewal dates around. I know you can use the upgrade from another line to get the phone than transfer the phone to your line, but you are still stuck not being able to actually upgrade using the credit for your line. The loophole I described allows you to use up all available credits. The guy that did this for me said that Verizon doesn't allow their corporate guys to switch renewal dates around so they wouldn't be able to do this. If any Verizon store can do this, great, but anytime I've talked to them none of them has ever mentioned being able to renewal my line without losing unlimited data. They only offer to use the credit from another line, but then I can never use the credit from my line, which is a waste.
I'll use my account as an example, I have an upgrade for a unlimited line that I can reassign to another account that has a limited data plan. Then I can upgrade the line with the limited data plan. Once I have the new phone, I would activate it on the line with the limited data plan call the phone to make sure it's successful and then reactivate the old phone on the limited data plan line and call the line to make sure the old phone is working. The only thing left to do is activate the new phone on the unlimited data line.
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Thanks for sharing this useful info
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I don't see how you can do this online. There is no way to change the renewal dates around. I know you can use the upgrade from another line to get the phone than transfer the phone to your line, but you are still stuck not being able to actually upgrade using the credit for your line. The loophole I described allows you to use up all available credits. The guy that did this for me said that Verizon doesn't allow their corporate guys to switch renewal dates around so they wouldn't be able to do this. If any Verizon store can do this, great, but anytime I've talked to them none of them has ever mentioned being able to renewal my line without losing unlimited data. They only offer to use the credit from another line, but then I can never use the credit from my line, which is a waste.
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Ok, I see what you are saying. Your saying that you were able to use the unlimited data plan credit at Costco whereas you couldn't do so at a Verizon Wireless store. Well let me apologize because I was sure that we could do so since I had used an upgrade from a limited 2GB data plan on that line itself and then transferred the newly activated device to my unlimited data plan line, while reactivating the old phone on the 2GB data plan line.
I'm going to visit my local Costco and see what they can do for me ASAP.
Correct. In your post above you using the credit from the limited line to get a nice and then activate it on your unlimited line. This is fine and anyone can do this, but then the credit for your unlimited line just sits there and can never be used or you lose the unlimited.
With the loophole, it temporarily switches the renewal dates so you are just renewing the limited line (in your case, you'd be renewing it again, which shouldn't technically be possible, but is because of the switch.) When they switch the renewal dates back, your unlimited line has lost the ability to be renewed but you didn't lose the unlimited data.
Hope this works for you too.
A cautionary tale... Just got back from a Verizon kiosk in Costco and they told me they did the "upgrade dumb phone n switch to unlimited line" and had 3 people come back complaining of losing their unlimited. Anyone heard of this. He did say that Verizon has been looking for accounts that are flagged? I'm a lil hesitant to upgrade now.
I wonder if this is affected by the use of a family plan. In that case, all the phones fall under the same base contract, although they may have different upgrade/service termination dates - they're linked contractually. That's different than having different phones/plans under the same billing account - those would be separate contracts. AIR, the Verizon policy is to remove unlimited when there's a change to the contract, other than a simple extension.
Not sure about using a dumb phone. Mine was done using a 2gb line and so far my account still shows unlimited. If they try to change my plan I will complain like crazy since I did not sign a contract for that line.
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I wonder if those guys didn't even activate the phone and simply activated it on the unlimited line, if that's possible.
If it's through separate plan/phone then I can understand but I thought the loophole was based on the family plan. I really want to upgrade but the thought of losing unlimited if frightening... Maybe I'll just Craigslist or swappa but how reliable are those phones....
Like I said, they activated it on the "limited line" first since that is the line that officially got renewed. Then they switched the phone to the "unlimited line".
So I have a quick question regarding transferring upgrades.
I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan and 5 phones on my VZW plan. I am the only one with unlimited data and I have an upgrade available.
I know you can transfer the upgrade to another line, activate on the other line, and then switch the lines to keep unlimited data.
I just did this, but it is weird. When I go to the upgrade screen again, it says that my unlimited line is awaiting activation? I was wondering if VZW seemed to fix this "workaround" or what? Because now on my invoice says on my unlimited line that it will go to a 2gb data plan, even though when I transferred and upgraded, it did not give me that warning that you are not allowed to have unlimited data anymore and will be forced to go to a 2gb data plan.
I'm sure i've transferred it right, and I've done this in the past so i'm thinking VZW might have fixed thsi workaround?
I recently inquired with VZW about retaining my unlimited data in the event I should upgrade to the Note 3. They said on 2 separate occasions that they are no longer grandfathering unlimited data. The next best thing was 2GB. This has really forced me to reconsider whether or not I want to upgrade. Kinda blows if you asked me.
Rootabaga said:
I recently inquired with VZW about retaining my unlimited data in the event I should upgrade to the Note 3. They said on 2 separate occasions that they are no longer grandfathering unlimited data. The next best thing was 2GB. This has really forced me to reconsider whether or not I want to upgrade. Kinda blows if you asked me.
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VZW always says this. Don't believe them, there are a few ways to have a work around. Like if you have a family plan, you can add a line and upgrade it, activate it on that line, and switch it. If you have a smart phone that has a 2gb plan already, or anything other than unlimited, you can upgrade that phone, activate it, and switch it.
The third way is if you have an upgrade available you can transfer your upgrade to a different line, activate it on that line, and switch it back. That is what i'm asking because i've done it the other two ways, but not this third way. I'm trying to figure it out, because I'm sure I switched the upgrade, but it STILL SAYS that my line is the one being upgraded and not the one i transferred it to.
So I saw a post the other day about a loophole where I can keep my unlimited data. I have 2 plans. Plan 1 is my plan which is eligible for a upgrade and has unlimited data. Plan 2 is wife's which is eligible and has 2gb data plan. What I did was pre order the g3 on mine and changed to share everything ande lost my unlimited. I called Verizon and they said if I returned the phone by mail it would undo everything and I would get my old plan back. I didn't touch the phone, it's still in the box going back today.
My question is can I go to Verizon tonight, purchase another g3 on the wife's line, activate on the wife's line, switch it over to my line, and then when the pre ordered g3 gets back to them my plan goes back to unlimited like before. I feeling that should be fine, I just don't want to screw anything up.
I called cs again and they said it could complicate things if I activate another phone attached to the plan I'm temporary on. I guess I will just wait then
Stop doing it through Verizon. Don't activate the sim 3rd party provides.
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Stop doing it through Verizon. Don't activate the sim 3rd party provides.
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I have no idea what you are trying to tell me. Buy the phone through a 3rd party? What does that get me I still have to pick a plan.
Yeah. Check your PM.
leyvatron said:
Yeah. Check your PM.
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I read that option but honestly I would rather do my method. It's not as sketchy as that and completely within Verizon policy to switch phones between plans. Best buy and Verizon could suddenly make that method not work. Since my wife doesn't have unlimited I might as well upgrade her with the g3 and move it over to mine.
I couldn't even buy the phone at best buy now because my plan isn't even unlimited data until they get the phone back. Thanks though.
Ok, here's what you do (I just did it on TWO lines yesterday).
Go to Best Buy. They're more helpful and aren't as stickler as VZW people are. Tell them that you can't upgrade your line since you don't want to lose unlimited data (and you always buy your phones used off Craigslist now), but your wife REALLY wants the LG G3. You want to surprise her with a new phone, so you would like to transfer the upgrade to her line and get her a new phone. Make sure that they understand you want your unlimited and DO NOT WANT TO LOSE IT.
They'll process the upgrade and everything.
Now take that phone back to your wife, put the SIM from the NEW phone (since it's her SIM now) into her phone, then put YOUR SIM into the new LG G3.
Boom. Doesn't fux with your unlimited data because you're using your old SIM.
Source: I've done this exact thing on my line with an S4, S5, and the G3 now. Works like a charm
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Ok, here's what you do (I just did it on TWO lines yesterday).
Go to Best Buy. They're more helpful and aren't as stickler as VZW people are. Tell them that you can't upgrade your line since you don't want to lose unlimited data (and you always buy your phones used off Craigslist now), but your wife REALLY wants the LG G3. You want to surprise her with a new phone, so you would like to transfer the upgrade to her line and get her a new phone. Make sure that they understand you want your unlimited and DO NOT WANT TO LOSE IT.
They'll process the upgrade and everything.
Now take that phone back to your wife, put the SIM from the NEW phone (since it's her SIM now) into her phone, then put YOUR SIM into the new LG G3.
Boom. Doesn't fux with your unlimited data because you're using your old SIM.
Source: I've done this exact thing on my line with an S4, S5, and the G3 now. Works like a charm
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Can I not switch the phone from her line to mine after I get it? Since her line doesn't have unlimited I'll just buy it on hers and switch it to mine. Am I missing something? I'm just not understanding why I can't just do it through Verizon. I'll use her upgrade to buy the g3,switch the phone to my line, then transfer my upgrade to hers later.
here is what you do. transfer your upgrade via my Verizon wireless to her line. upgrade to G3. When you get it put her sim out of her current phone in it. Make sure it switches to G3 on her line on my Verizon. Take sim out put back in her old phone and put your sim in the G3! Boom! keep unlimted intact on your line and still have her upgrade. Only thing I don't know is you may have to use her upgrade. never done when two lines both have upgrades
Ok. If the upgrade is already on her line, it's no problem. Use the upgrade online (after Verizon gets your order back and your bill reverts to unlimited for your line), go in and have them swap the devices around and you'll be fine. Heck, you may be able to get by with just swapping out the SIM cards, no store trip needed. At least, that's how it worked for me:
Moved my upgrade over to my mother's dumb phone line. Pre-ordered the G3 online. When it arrived, I removed the pre-installed SIM and popped the one from my S4 in. The phone now shows up on my line on My Verizon. Swung by the store today to make sure I didn't need to do anything else. Rep I talked to (thankfully a guy into mobile tech) said everything looked good and we didn't have to do anything further...that my unlimited line wouldn't be touched now.
In short...Order online, do everything you can do yourself. Don't call CS or deal with store reps unless you absolutely have to.
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Can I not switch the phone from her line to mine after I get it? Since her line doesn't have unlimited I'll just buy it on hers and switch it to mine. Am I missing something? I'm just not understanding why I can't just do it through Verizon. I'll use her upgrade to buy the g3,switch the phone to my line, then transfer my upgrade to hers later.
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Ahh, ya. I missed that part. If she has an upgrade, just buy the phone with HER upgrade and pop your SIM into it. Tell them that you're using her upgrade for yourself though, otherwise they'll deactivate her SIM for the new one that they're putting into the phone. Then you pop it in and have them activate her phone. She shouldn't be without service for more than a few minutes.
The way that I described it is how you'll use your upgrade WITHOUT losing your data plan.
I don't think she has a sim. She has an iPhone 4s. She doesn't want a new phone, that's why both lines are open. I'll just activate it with the new sim on her account and switch it to mine right after.
Back to my first question though lol, can I go in and get the phone now with her upgrade and switch it before the other phone gets back to them? I'm worried that upgrading her line while my plan is still not unlimited until the phone gets back to them will keep the plan stuck even after they get the phone back from my account. I'm just being impatient and want the phone now and don't feel like waiting for the return to process
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I don't think she has a sim. She has an iPhone 4s. She doesn't want a new phone, that's why both lines are open. I'll just activate it with the new sim on her account and switch it to mine right after.
Back to my first question though lol, can I go in and get the phone now with her upgrade and switch it before the other phone gets back to them?
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Just wait! Honestly dude, consider yourself extremely lucky that they're even giving you your unlimited data back. That rarely ever happens. I would definitely not push it. Just be patient.
Also, you said in your post that you and your wife have separate accounts. Do you mean separate lines on this same plan or two separate plans completely? If it's too seprate accounts I'd very careful about switching the phone from 1 account to the other. Technically they can charge you full price for the phone if it leaves the account that it was bought on. I believe you have to wait 6 months or maybe a little bit more. that rule may have changed from a year ago when I worked there, but you might want to double check cause that phone cost a lot of money.
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Been doing this for three years. I pay 120/year just to keep my second dummy line and transfer upgrades Hehe.
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