Using the Fireball Internationally - Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE

So I've been globetrotting with my Incredible 4G/aka Fireball with CM10.1 (currently the unofficial 20130420 build by mdmower) for about 6 months now and it works great on VZW's global plan, Used it all over Europe and across US / Canada using Verizon's plan. Feel free to ask any questions below if you are curious about my experiences with that. I can't promise a speedy response but will do my best to answer.
The point of this post is actually to see if anyone wants me to try any specific services or networks while I am in Europe later this month. I see a number of posts asking if it will work in -insert country here- or on -insert service provider here- so if you want a guinea pig, here I am.
I was thinking of buying a pre-paid SIM or 3 and basically try different services and setups for kicks and giggles. I am flying into Amsterdam and will end up in Belgium and Germany at different points in my trip and this summer have projects in Asia and Scandinavia.
I'll either grab cards off of Amazon before I go or when I land hit up a kiosk or vending machine.
Not sure if this is of any use to anyone but since I'm already going to satisfy my own curiosity I'd offer my results to the community.
Now everyone stand back.... I'm about to SCIENCE! :laugh:

i'm heading to italy this summer and wondering what it will take to make this phone work. this is my first 4g phone with a sim card...
my previous verizon phones have always worked around america (mexico, dominican republic, etc). when i went to asia last year (japan, thailand) i only used wifi for email and data - the roaming worked but was outrageous price.

I'm using this phone in Ukraine with no issues. I have Ukranian GSM service provider and another one for CDMA. No LTE in Ukraine.
The only tip, that this phone doesn't support my GSM provider's Mobile Internet. Never the less, it does support it on other Ukranian GSM providers.
When I was in German, I bought myself German prepaid sim-card and sucsessfully switched to its network

j13smiley said:
i'm heading to italy this summer and wondering what it will take to make this phone work. this is my first 4g phone with a sim card...
my previous verizon phones have always worked around america (mexico, dominican republic, etc). when i went to asia last year (japan, thailand) i only used wifi for email and data - the roaming worked but was outrageous price.
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That's kind of my thought on the matter too, how easy is it to switch carriers on a device which is normally carrier locked. I see there are some configurations needed for the CM10.1 to work on a different carrier and want to try and see how it works. I will be giving that a whirl and see.
I noticed that last time I was in Belgium I had very spotty coverage with VZW and very slow data while nobody else had any problems getting decent speeds, but in Netherlands I usually had same or better signal than locals and mostly full 3G signal in main train routes and larger downtown areas like Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Eindhoven. Germany was about the same but I wasn't paying much attention to my phone while briefly passing through.
VZW lists the radios as:
Network
LTE 700 MHz (band 13)
CDMA 1x/3G 800/1900 MHz
UMTS/HSPA 2100/900
Quad Band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900)
With this gamut I would think it can attach to any network for voice and data with the right settings. I also plan on paying closer attention to what kind of signals I am attaching to and speeds, etc.

After spending a week abroad I found that if you are just visiting using the Global Plan through Verizon is by FAR the best solution.
First, a "Local" SIM card runs about 10 Euro from most providers, T-Mobile (NL) and KPN were the ones I selected. Vodafone is in partnership with VZW for service in Netherlands so I skipped them assuming same coverage. With the 10 Euro you get varying minimal amounts of voice minutes for local calls... assume it's JUST a SIM though, you pay extra for minutes, texts and data.
The Pre-Paid SIMs I had access to do not offer roaming. I was told you need a plan for roaming. When I went into Germany or Belgium I lost service.
Data plans on pre-paid plans for a smartphone are about 25-30 euro for 100mb.
It's only $25 per 100mb chunk through VZW.
Texting plans range from 5 Euro and up. I didn't get one, didn't need it since I use WhatsApp and Viber for that.
Coverage and data speed would the ONLY reason I would go with a pre-paid SIM again. T-Mobile had exceptionally fast data and amazing coverage while I was in the NL. KPN was comparable to Vodafone (thought my VZW global plan).
Switching to other providers was difficult and cumbersome and CM10.1 does NOT handle global roaming very well. Can't just jam a SIM in and it works (See MDMower's Unofficial CM post for settings) Once the settings were made I made a TWRP backup to make switching possible without a PC.
CM 10 and 10.1 did not show a signal bar even when I had signal so it was VERY difficult to ascertain signal strength and relied on just speed and what I perceived of signal strength.
Stock Rooted works great for Global Roaming but did not like SIM cards from other providers.
Recap; If you plan on visiting a country outside of USA and use this phone (or any Global phone really) then it's best to add in a global plan at $25-30 a month and the $25 100mb package. A SIM will cost you about that or more and doesn't allow you to use your same phone number or roam into other countries without added expense.
It's best to stick with Stock Rooted on that plan. IF you plan on using a local SIM for data speeds and you are staying in one major city/area for the duration then it will work alright but make backups of different configurations before you do the switch... Plan on spending an hour or two getting your phone configured and setup with the right settings and my signal bar never worked in CM, even if you have full signal.
From now on I will use only VZW plan on Stock Rooted. It's the best way to have a reliable phone when travelling abroad.

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[Q] Best Canadian Data providers, plans and prices for SGS2

Just got my shiny SGS2 and wonder - what is the best data plan price could be in Ontario (Toronto particularly).
Got my phone from Virgin Mobile unlock and connected to Fido.
A friend of mine told me that Wind has the best price - $10 a month for unlimited data (only throttling the channel after first 5Gb). Went to Wind booth and asked to put Wind demo SIM card into my Samsung. No luck, the phone can see the Wind Home Network but couldn't connect to it.
Fido has regular data plan $60 a month for 5Gb that is kinda expensive.
Found in Internet that Fido has retention plan $30 for 6Gb. Called the support but they told me - this is only if I buy new smartphone from them sign for 3 years contract, otherwise - no $30 for 6Gb even when I threatened that I would cancel and go to different provider.
Any thoughts about cheap data plans in Canada, Ontario, Toronto that DO work with Samsung Galaxy S2?
I would've stuck with Virgin as they currently have a limited time offer of 6GB data for $30 and they're plan offerings aren't bad at all if you don't have the luxury of a retention offer from your current provider.
I have accounts on three different carriers for me and my siblings and here's how they compare:
Brother's on Fido:
100/Unl.E/WE starting 7pm
Unl. txt msg
Call Display w/Name Display
Canadian LD Option 25 Minutes
6GB Data
=$75 after taxes
Sister's on Virgin:
200/Unl.E/WE starting 6pm
Unl. txt&pic msg
Fav 10 Canada-wide
Call Display w/Name Display
1GB Data
=$70 after taxes
Mine on Bell:
150/Unl.E/WE starting 6pm
Unl. txt&pic msg
Fab 10 Canada-wide
Call Display & Voice Mail
6GB Data
=$87 after taxes
Wow, holy expensive plans, batman.
30-45$ (Plus tax) here for:
300 minutes
unlimited fido to fido
Evenings and weekends at 6
2500 SMS/100 MMS
Voicemail + Call display
Evolutive data plan (100 megs, 10$, 500 megs, 20$, 1GB, 25$)
(Telus corporate plan + Retention = Win)
Do people really need 6GB? Retention works only if you've been with a carrier for a long time... Going on 6 years with fido, I'm sure if I call them they'll give me something free. haha
Wait until the iphone 5 is released... When it is, they'll have 6GB data plans for 30$... Virgin though seems to have a pretty good network. Fido/Rogers, not so sure anymore...
karendar said:
Do people really need 6GB? Retention works only if you've been with a carrier for a long time... Going on 6 years with fido, I'm sure if I call them they'll give me something free. haha
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Been with Fido for 7 years now without interruption.
Call them today and they haven't given me the retention plan.
Not unless I bought a phone from them (I just got my SGS2 ha-ha, what Fido can offer me instead?), sign a contract for 3 years and other crappy terms...
Man, I am disapoint with Fido.
^ Strange, I got the 6GB/$30 retention plan by committing to 2 years of Data (eg an ECF is < 2yrs) without any hardware (I am using an unlocked SGS II from Europe now).
Unlocked SGS2 will only work on Rogers, Bell and Telus (and their sub-brands, Fido, Virgin, etc.) because SGS2 supports 1900/2100 MHz HSPA.
Wind and Mobilicity use 1700 MHz (AWS) HSPA frequency for their network, which the global version of the SGS2 does not support. You will have to wait for the T-Mobile USA version.
On the other hand, the unlocked global version of HTC Sensation will work on Wind and Mobilicity, but not on Bell or Telus, and only at EDGE speeds on Rogers network.
If you use the SGS2 on Wind network, it will probably roam on the Rogers/Bell/Telus network (whichever they have roaming partnership with) (Wind Away zone). Not sure though.
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Wind and Mobilicity use 1700 MHz (AWS) HSPA frequency for their network, which the global version of the SGS2 does not support. You will have to wait for the T-Mobile USA version.
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Is this "T-Mobile version" has different chip and some kind of different hardware or it will be just another ROM, software update etc.?
I mean can we theoretically reprogram Bell SGS2 to work with Wind or this is hardware issue?
It's a hardware thing. The T-Mobile/AWS version will use a different cellular baseband radio chip and antenna. It's kind of like the iPhone - you get 3G on Rogers/Fido/Bell/Telus/AT&T, but only EDGE on Wind/Mobilicity/T-Mobile - because the iPhone cellular baseband radio does not support AWS frequencies.
sly2m said:
Been with Fido for 7 years now without interruption.
Call them today and they haven't given me the retention plan.
Not unless I bought a phone from them (I just got my SGS2 ha-ha, what Fido can offer me instead?), sign a contract for 3 years and other crappy terms...
Man, I am disapoint with Fido.
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I manage a multi-carrier wireless store (Rogers, Fido, Bell, Virgin, etc) and suggest you call Fido back and talk to the cancellations department (also called customer retention). Tell them you are going to switch to Virgin because they will give you a better plan without contract. Speaking from experience, they can give you a plan with promotional discounts even without having to sign a contract.
If that doesn't work, PM me and I'll actually switch you to something better. Like Virgin for $75 (Unlimited Talk and Text, 6GB Data, Caller ID, Voicemail), no contract.
GetHyper said:
I manage a multi-carrier wireless store (Rogers, Fido, Bell, Virgin, etc) and suggest you call Fido back and talk to the cancellations department (also called customer retention). Tell them you are going to switch to Virgin because they will give you a better plan without contract. Speaking from experience, they can give you a plan with promotional discounts even without having to sign a contract.
If that doesn't work, PM me and I'll actually switch you to something better. Like Virgin for $75 (Unlimited Talk and Text, 6GB Data, Caller ID, Voicemail), no contract.
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[Q] Unlocked Roaming Radios Available?

I have a question... when I go overseas w\ my old Infuse, I always had to flash a non-AT&T radio to truly "unlock" the device. The radio ATT had on the firmware made it so you can ONLY roam on the partners AT&T wanted you to be able to, even if you had a SIM from say Thailand.
For example, if I go to Thailand, there are about 5 GSM carriers. AT&T partners with 1 of them. If I put in a SIM from the UK who partners with 4 of them, the ONLY carrier the radio will let me latch onto is the ONE overlapping carrier that AT&T also partners with. Flashing a non-ATT radio resolves the issue, but it's quite frustrating to have had to deal with on the ATT Infuse, so I always used the Rogers radio, which didn't have the limitation.
I assume that's going to be the case with the AT&T SGSII that I just bought as well. Does anyone have any radio suggestions? And since we don't yet have ROM Manager, am I going to have to flash with my PC or what?
Thanks as always!
bella92108 said:
I have a question... when I go overseas w\ my old Infuse, I always had to flash a non-AT&T radio to truly "unlock" the device. The radio ATT had on the firmware made it so you can ONLY roam on the partners AT&T wanted you to be able to, even if you had a SIM from say Thailand.
For example, if I go to Thailand, there are about 5 GSM carriers. AT&T partners with 1 of them. If I put in a SIM from the UK who partners with 4 of them, the ONLY carrier the radio will let me latch onto is the ONE overlapping carrier that AT&T also partners with. Flashing a non-ATT radio resolves the issue, but it's quite frustrating to have had to deal with on the ATT Infuse, so I always used the Rogers radio, which didn't have the limitation.
I assume that's going to be the case with the AT&T SGSII that I just bought as well. Does anyone have any radio suggestions? And since we don't yet have ROM Manager, am I going to have to flash with my PC or what?
Thanks as always!
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Interesting - I've never seen any indication that Rogers radios in the Infuse had this positive effect. Especially since the Indian users on the Infuse forums had no problems with any Indian carrier that had frequency bands the Infuse supported. Of course, maybe that's because they always used a local-carrier SIM, and not something a little wacky like a UK sim in Thailand with a US phone...
I9100 radios will not work on the I777.
Entropy512 said:
Interesting - I've never seen any indication that Rogers radios in the Infuse had this positive effect. Especially since the Indian users on the Infuse forums had no problems with any Indian carrier that had frequency bands the Infuse supported. Of course, maybe that's because they always used a local-carrier SIM, and not something a little wacky like a UK sim in Thailand with a US phone...
I9100 radios will not work on the I777.
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HEHE, yeah. AT&T has several roaming partners in India, so odds are they'd be able to use it just fine with any SIM even if a non-Indian SIM.
UK sims are not as uncommon as you think. MOST global travel sims are registered in the UK or Eastern Europe. Mine is a Tru SIM. Tru is from the UK (you may have heard of their VOIP service, TruPhone). The SIM has a US number, it's just UK-based, since their carriers are far ahead of the US in terms of EU roaming, so it gives the most beneficial rates of any SIM.
It's really the most noticeable in countries where AT&T only has 1 or 2 roaming partners, but the country has 4-5 GSM carriers. Most southeast asian countries like Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore fall into this category, so it can be a bit annoying be limited by my phone. Even in Japan last month I had issues because the roaming carrier Tru will allow (almost any) didn't jive with what AT&T's radio wanted to attach to (it had weak signal). Flashing the rogers radio solved, but hopefully there will be radio updates out for GSII.
EDIT: it's likely that it's not less of a restriction, but just a better roaming relationship with more countries. Canadian Carriers are a bit more "traveled" and progressive than Ma Bell. AT&T loves to advertise that you can use your phone in many countries, but they don't say that in many countries the one and only provider they roam on has TERRIBLE coverage or only a tiny part of the country covered and just gives them a good deal to boost their roaming count.
BTW, good to see you again Entropy! I missed you the couple weeks I had Infuse while you were away, hehe. Glad to be back w\ a phone you have so I can enjoy the great things you put out!
I could be wrong, but i thought it was the SIM card that told the phone what towers were roaming and not roaming. The only way an AT&T phone would keep you from going on another providers towers in another country is if you were still using your AT&T SIM card, or if your phone simply didn't work on the band of the carrier you were trying to use.
benk016 said:
I could be wrong, but i thought it was the SIM card that told the phone what towers were roaming and not roaming. The only way an AT&T phone would keep you from going on another providers towers in another country is if you were still using your AT&T SIM card, or if your phone simply didn't work on the band of the carrier you were trying to use.
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Well a SIM is just like an ID, and the carriers will either let you register with that ID, or not let you register. However, AT&T in all of their glory modified the radio so when you go to a country, the radio will disallow access to a carrier. I am not quite sure how they do it. For example, if you go to Thailand w\ an ATT sim card you'll likely roam on DTAC or AIS. You can't roam on Tru w\ an AT&T sim card because they don't have a roaming agreement, but the phone fully works fine if you put a Tru sim into it. Where the radio also limits you somehow, is if you have a SIM from say O2 in the UK, and you pop it into an unlocked Infuse 4G, you can't roam onto Tru, even though Tru is a roaming partner of O2, and the phone fully supports the frequencies and everything works just fine.
Weird right? Now flash the Rogers radio. Since Rogers has Tru as a roaming partner, it works if you put in a Rogers SIM, Tru SIM, O2, etc.... that's where the mystery and misery lie. I'm really hoping they didn't do the same to the SGSII's radio.

[US folks] Using International spec S3 in US - how?

(This is kind of a repeat of a post I put in the Q&A section - but figured that here might be a better place for it)
I'm vacationing in the US in the Fall (October) and I'd really like to be able to use my International-spec S3 over there for some data usage (Google Maps, but more especially these apps that give the queue times at attractions).
Now I know that T-Mobile (my UK carrier) is a non-starter - because apparently they (for lord knows what reason) use two frequency bands for data - one being a 1700MHz band that the non-US S3 doesn't support.
AT&T seemed to be okay, but I don't see any way to get a plan with a decent amount of data allowance that doesn't need you to setup a monthly contract against a US address.
Only option at the moment seems to be this "Straight Talk" company which was mentioned/recommended by someone else here in reply to a comment I made on an article. But I don't know much about them.
So - anyone out there in xda-land got any advice for me? Ideally what I'm looking for is some company that'll let me have a pre-paid plan with 250MB+ of data that I can use for two weeks, and only uses the 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 bands which my S3 supports. Oh, and if they happen to do international shipping too, then that'd be spectacular.
Where are you going to traveling to? There are different carriers in different regions of the USA. At&t does have prepaid plans without commitments.
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bluebobx said:
(This is kind of a repeat of a post I put in the Q&A section - but figured that here might be a better place for it)
I'm vacationing in the US in the Fall (October) and I'd really like to be able to use my International-spec S3 over there for some data usage (Google Maps, but more especially these apps that give the queue times at attractions).
Now I know that T-Mobile (my UK carrier) is a non-starter - because apparently they (for lord knows what reason) use two frequency bands for data - one being a 1700MHz band that the non-US S3 doesn't support.
AT&T seemed to be okay, but I don't see any way to get a plan with a decent amount of data allowance that doesn't need you to setup a monthly contract against a US address.
Only option at the moment seems to be this "Straight Talk" company which was mentioned/recommended by someone else here in reply to a comment I made on an article. But I don't know much about them.
So - anyone out there in xda-land got any advice for me? Ideally what I'm looking for is some company that'll let me have a pre-paid plan with 250MB+ of data that I can use for two weeks, and only uses the 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 bands which my S3 supports. Oh, and if they happen to do international shipping too, then that'd be spectacular.
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I currently use H2O Wireless, which is an MVNO for AT&T. You can pickup a sim card from any best buy and activate online in less than 10 minutes. You get unlimited voice/text and 2GB of data for $60 a month. I'm in California, not sure where you will be visiting but it works for me. I had Red Pocket when I was using my Nexus and they worked great also. Just a bit less convienant in getting a sim card.
One note tho, you will need to cut down the H2O sim to work with the S3, I found a template online and with a sharp pair of scissors was done in about 2 minutes.
dstech said:
Where are you going to traveling to? There are different carriers in different regions of the USA. At&t does have prepaid plans without commitments.
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krichek said:
I currently use H2O Wireless, which is an MVNO for AT&T. ... I'm in California, not sure where you will be visiting but it works for me. I had Red Pocket when I was using my Nexus and they worked great also. Just a bit less convienant in getting a sim card.
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Thanks for the replies - I'm on a sand, sea and theme parks visit - so it's Florida - specifically Orlando area.
krichek said:
One note tho, you will need to cut down the H2O sim to work with the S3, I found a template online and with a sharp pair of scissors was done in about 2 minutes.
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I bought a SIM cutter from eBay a couple of months back (when I got my S3, because my then-current SIM was the full sized variety and I didn't want the hassle/expense of requesting a new one from the carrier)

(Q) Using a UK 920 in the US using data?

Hi Everyone
Im off to America for a few weeks at the end of the month.
Im just wondering what networks will my UK (Soon to be unlocked) 920 work on?
From what i can tell it will only work on AT&T 3g/4g but was hoping to use Tmobile as it looks cheaper. (Not bothered about 4g as long as it picks up 3g.
Or could someone from across the pond let me know the best Pay and go plans... i only wanna make a few calls but manly for data, as my EE network want £50 for 200mb.
Whether you can use T-Mobile and get 3G depends on where you will be. T-Mobile is re-allocating some of their spectrum and so in an ever-expanding set of places, you can get 3G on 1900MHz, and your UK 920 will get 3G data in those places.
See airportal.de to get an idea of the regions that are being refarmed. Many metropolitan areas are covered.

(Q) Does the LTE versions of Samsung tablets have built in eSim like functionality?

My brother has an iPad pro and on the tablet in the settings he can browse many available plans from verizon, att, tmobile etc. He is able to purchase it and then immediately use the cellular data plan. I specifically like the $20 for 5GB for 5 months plan that he has access to. Do Samsung tablets have similar functionality (probably with esim)?
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My brother has an iPad pro and on the tablet in the settings he can browse many available plans from verizon, att, tmobile etc. He is able to purchase it and then immediately use the cellular data plan. I specifically like the $20 for 5GB for 5 months plan that he has access to. Do Samsung tablets have similar functionality (probably with esim)?
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No. It uses a nano SIM. Find the best deal, get a nano SIM from the provider, and you're off to the races. There are no LTE versions being sold in the U.S. currently and the overseas versions don't work on CDMA so no Verizon and Sprint although they may work on their LTE networks for data because it supports their bands. The dialer and MMS definitely won't work. When the U.S. versions are released they'll be locked to the carrier you bought it from, loaded with their crap on it, the dialer will be disabled, and you can't reflash it using an international ROM because the model numbers are different.
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No. It uses a nano SIM. Find the best deal, get a nano SIM from the provider, and you're off to the races. There are no LTE versions being sold in the U.S. currently and the overseas versions don't work on CDMA so no Verizon and Sprint although they may work on their LTE networks for data because it supports their bands. The dialer and MMS definitely won't work. When the U.S. versions are released they'll be locked to the carrier you bought it from, loaded with their crap on it, the dialer will be disabled, and you can't reflash it using an international ROM because the model numbers are different.
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So no phone/SMS/MMS function even if you have the right sim? I was going to look at the T-Mobile tab today but if those functions are disabled why would I want to pay $100 more for a tab with half the storage? I'll just get the WiFi version and run it if need be from my hot spot on my phone for internet access.
You can get genuine LTE versions from E-Bay no problem, why would you buy a 'carrier specific' one that then locks you to that carrier.
Note that, as mentioned earlier in the thread, that the S6 does NOT have an unlocked CDMA version so even with LTE certain carriers won't work.
In the UK using the LTE 256GB S6 with Giffgaff means unlmtd calls and SMS and 8GB data for $12 month, rolling 30 day contract (so no long term commitment). I'm always shocked that my US friends pay fortunes for phone and cable services compared to the UK.
When I travel in the States I use a UK Three sim in roaming mode that allows me to use my UK calls/SMS/Data allowance without any surcharge, still works out loads cheaper then using a US SIM.

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