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derekfaircloth said:
I know some of you bought more than one and I am hoping someone will sell me one. I wont go into details but I am unemployed due to medical issues and I am waiting to get on disability. I am struggling and have no income and even at $99 I can't afford one but my mother said she would get it for me as an early bday gift. I want this for my kids mainly because due to my financial problems I have had to pawn things for extra money part of which was our laptop and ps3. I don't need your pity and please do not flame me for posting this. I am just hoping someone will help me out so I can give something to my kids to replace things I pawned. To anyone that can help i thank you very much and if nothing else say a little prayer for me and my family. It has been tough but God will see us through. Please pm me if you can help
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Hey, I am in a similar financial state (employed but not making a ton and owe more than I can afford because of student loans). Praying for ya man.
Thank you. Means a lot and I mean that brother
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derekfaircloth said:
I know some of you bought more than one and I am hoping someone will sell me one. I wont go into details but I am unemployed due to medical issues and I am waiting to get on disability. I am struggling and have no income and even at $99 I can't afford one but my mother said she would get it for me as an early bday gift. I want this for my kids mainly because due to my financial problems I have had to pawn things for extra money part of which was our laptop and ps3. I don't need your pity and please do not flame me for posting this. I am just hoping someone will help me out so I can give something to my kids to replace things I pawned. To anyone that can help i thank you very much and if nothing else say a little prayer for me and my family. It has been tough but God will see us through. Please pm me if you can help
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Derek Faircloth
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I don't buy your **** for a second. Get off xda and get on craigslist. Also if your waiting on disability then get a job..... you're effing up our economy. My back hurts too. Work!
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Add an annoying whining voice to this post. "Owwwwwww..... I can hardly type this and the welfare building is down the street but does anyone have a tablet my MOM can buy for me? I'm only 43"
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Just my opinion, but if you can't afford $99 for a TouchPad you probably shouldn't be paying for a monthly data plan on your EVO 3D. Sorry, but just sayin'...
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Wow some people are heartless. Even if that's how you feel keep your comments to yourself. Smh
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I'm re reading this. You pawned your kids ps3? Shame on you!
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Wow some people are heartless. Even if that's how you feel keep your comments to yourself. Smh
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Heartless? Or hard working Americans paying taxes and busting their balls to make ends meet?. Then see someone sell their kids ps3 for a tablet for their own pleasure? Piss off!
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derekfaircloth said:
I know some of you bought more than one and I am hoping someone will sell me one. I wont go into details but I am unemployed due to medical issues and I am waiting to get on disability. I am struggling and have no income and even at $99 I can't afford one but my mother said she would get it for me as an early bday gift. I want this for my kids mainly because due to my financial problems I have had to pawn things for extra money part of which was our laptop and ps3. I don't need your pity and please do not flame me for posting this. I am just hoping someone will help me out so I can give something to my kids to replace things I pawned. To anyone that can help i thank you very much and if nothing else say a little prayer for me and my family. It has been tough but God will see us through. Please pm me if you can help
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Derek Faircloth
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Go on Ebay, you can find a Tablet, won't be a Touchpad but you can score one for $99 and there a few for less. Or craigslist....otherwise you are **** out of luck. I wanted a Touchpad too, I'm even on a list to be notified when they will have them available again but I am not counting on it so I just got one off of Ebay for $99.
Looks like you have a Evo 3D, so sell that , you can proably get $300-400 for it.
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Just my opinion, but if you can't afford $99 for a TouchPad you probably shouldn't be paying for a monthly data plan on your EVO 3D. Sorry, but just sayin'...
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So there is no possibility he is on WiFi right? You all are pathetic. No wonder so many only come to xda when they absolutely need to.
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Yeah, if you are having financial problems, you really don't need a touchpad or a phone that isn't just barebones. I mean, 99 dollars can buy a lot of food. If you can afford the phone and touchpad, you must not be hurting that much.
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So there is no possibility he is on WiFi right? You all are pathetic. No wonder so many only come to xda when they absolutely need to.
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He "pawned" his kids ps3!
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Just my opinion, but if you can't afford $99 for a TouchPad you probably shouldn't be paying for a monthly data plan on your EVO 3D. Sorry, but just sayin'...
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This is exactly what went through my head. It's not about not feeling bad for someone during a hard time, but pawning off your stuff for money, while still paying a $105/month phone bill just seems ridiculous. When I was without a job, I didnt have a phone, or I used a virgin mobile phone with "top up cards". I can't fathom helping someone, when it appears that they're unwilling to help themselves...especially with kids
Man up and get your priorities straight. Good luck with the job hunt
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So there is no possibility he is on WiFi right? You all are pathetic. No wonder so many only come to xda when they absolutely need to.
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So he bought the phone outright? Theres $500 well spent...
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Yeah, if you are having financial problems, you really don't need a touchpad or a phone that isn't just barebones. I mean, 99 dollars can buy a lot of food. If you can afford the phone and touchpad, you must not be hurting that much.
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Thinking you should re read the op cause his mom said she would buy it therefore making your statement false.
I am a loving father and husband but I would sell off all luxury items to pay anything needed I don't care if its their ps3. I didn't have that growing up and they can do without to gets us through a rough patch. He said he wanted it to replace those items for the kids. Why do you all go out of you Damn way to flame a guy you don't even know. Why are you so quick to judge? I am a honest hard working American myself but if I needed to go on disability guess what I would do it and you know why because I am a honest hard working American. I can't believe what xda has become. If you question someone's integrity move on to the next thread where I'm sure you all will find something else to give someone crap about.
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Derekfaircloth ..... don't post again on xda. Our phones and tablets are luxuries .... and in this point of your life, you only have needs. Put bread on the table... then worry about tablets! You sold your kids ps3?
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Vinchenzop said:
This is exactly what went through my head. It's not about not feeling bad for someone during a hard time, but pawning off your stuff for money, while still paying a $105/month phone bill just seems ridiculous. When I was without a job, I didnt have a phone, or I used a virgin mobile phone with "top up cards". I can't fathom helping someone, when it appears that they're unwilling to help themselves...especially with kids
Man up and get your priorities straight. Good luck with the job hunt
So he bought the phone outright? Theres $500 well spent...
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You know whether or not his service is cut off for not paying the bill? Do you actually know what's going on in this man's life? If you went through some **** and came here posted this whole heartedly would you want to be treated like this by people assuming when in reality they know nothing about your situation
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Thinking you should re read the op cause his mom said she would buy it therefore making your statement false.
I am a loving father and husband but I would sell off all luxury items to pay anything needed I don't care if its their ps3. I didn't have that growing up and they can do without to gets us through a rough patch. He said he wanted it to replace those items for the kids. Why do you all go out of you Damn way to flame a guy you don't even know. Why are you so quick to judge? I am a honest hard working American myself but if I needed to go on disability guess what I would do it and you know why because I am a honest hard working American. I can't believe what xda has become. If you question someone's integrity move on to the next thread where I'm sure you all will find something else to give someone crap about.
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You may be a slow DADDY. Yes disability is good DADDY.... but toys that you don't need aren't good in a time of crisis. Especially when you sold your kids toys to pay for a back or headache ..... don't know if that's what op did????? Just saying.... stop selling your kids toys to get yours!
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You know whether or not his service is cut off for not paying the bill? Do you actually know what's going on in this man's life? If you went through some **** and came here posted this whole heartedly would you want to be treated like this by people assuming when in reality they know nothing about your situation
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If his situation has been so bad over the past year or even only a few months, that he is selling off his and his kids things (reguardless of wanting to attempt to replace them or not) then why buy one of the most expensive phones on the market? I too work (60 hours a week) very hard at my job to provide the life that my family deserves. But if I wasn't capable, I sure as hell wouldn't be looking for sympathy/handouts in regards to one of the most sought after items in recent history.
I'm not trying to judge anyone, nor do I know his situation specifically, however, life is tough, you've got to work for what you got. I never said he wasn't truly injured, or abusing the system, or any of that nature, but simply stating that priorities need to be evaluated here, clearly.
You can act high and mighty, and judge me about not caring about, or having sympathy to this particular person, nor people in general, and you'd probably be right. What I've got, I made happen. The things I own, I bought myself. The place I am in life, good or bad, I put myself here. I've had nothing handed to me. I've lived in the streets, I've been poor, but guess what, I got my **** together and got to where I am today. You and this guy can go elsewhere, this is a cell phone discussion board, not a damn soup kitchen
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You may be a slow DADDY. Yes disability is good DADDY.... but toys that you don't need aren't good in a time of crisis. Especially when you sold your kids toys to pay for a back or headache ..... don't know if that's what op did????? Just saying.... stop selling your kids toys to get yours!
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Uh what? My 6 year old can type something that makes more sense.
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So, has anyone seen this? I hope Steve would be proud. This temp ban is ridiculous. Glad most of the devs for their hands on the one x, but block the new evo from even being released is going too far. I hate apple....
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Yeah, pretty crazy. Too bad HTC doesn't have the legal heavy weight that Samsung has, or they would have been able to work something out. Apple sucks. Shutting down imports due to "pinch to zoom" or something equally rediculous.
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I read something like that about a year ago. Is there anything to back it up? I know nothing came of it previously.
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its for clicking links in the text app. If you're running sense 4 go ahead and try it.. the hyperlinks and phone numbers are blue but clicking them does nothing. htc removed this because of apples bull**** patent
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JeramyEggs said:
So, has anyone seen this? I hope Steve would be proud. This temp ban is ridiculous. Glad most of the devs for their hands on the one x, but block the new evo from even being released is going too far. I hate apple....
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Link, please?
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Link, please?
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The story is in Engadget. Check over the last few days.
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Did someone patent the Internet yet? I'm going to apply for that.
Omg I want to burn that place to the f*king ground with everyone inside! I was wondering why text links and phone numbers weren't working. Steve jobs dying just wasn't enough
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/15/htc-one-x-and-evo-4g-lte-delayed-at-customs-due-to-itc-exclusio/
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Omg I want to burn that place to the f*king ground with everyone inside! I was wondering why text links and phone numbers weren't working. Steve jobs dying just wasn't enough
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Yikes. I don't care for Apple personally, but I certainly don't wish death upon anyone.
If they really have patents on their technology, then they are doing the right thing by protecting their intellectual property. You just can't go around stealing other peoples stuff. I'm not saying HTC or Samsung or anyone else stole anything, just saying that IF they did - then they are facing their consequences.
The Patent War has gotten out of control with ALL the manufactures. Just seems this is the first that has actually stopped a device in its tracks. All this patent stuff is BS I would hate having the job of making sure a device doesn't infringe on one of Apples, Samsungs, Motorola, Googles, etc's patents. I would be willing to be that just about any device would infringe on some patented somewhere.
BTW I'm currently Patenting how I tie my shoes SO WATCH OUT..
My old blackberrys from back in the day had this feature far before the iPhone. Who grants these patents.
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The Patent War has gotten out of control with ALL the manufactures. Just seems this is the first that has actually stopped a device in its tracks. All this patent stuff is BS I would hate having the job of making sure a device doesn't infringe on one of Apples, Samsungs, Motorola, Googles, etc's patents. I would be willing to be that just about any device would infringe on some patented somewhere.
BTW I'm currently Patenting how I tie my shoes SO WATCH OUT..
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It has gotten out of control. Something so minor should not be enough to block a shipment. Plus, that is a feature BUILT into Android, so they should not be after HTC but Google for that. I think devices that have skins can be attacked more because they added those patent violating features themselves vs. just building from google's source.
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My old blackberrys from back in the day had this feature far before the iPhone. Who grants these patents.
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blackhand1001 said:
My old blackberrys from back in the day had this feature far before the iPhone. Who grants these patents.
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The patent they are talking about was applied for back in 1996 and granted in 1999. It is for clicking on a recognizable text string and bringing up a menu or performing a UI action. So, yes, clicking on a telephone number will no longer bring up the dialer, or clicking on an email address will not bring up the email app, etc. Which I think is ****ing bull****. It's common sense that when I click on a telephone number it brings up the dialer. Who wouldnt think of that? I didnt think things that were blatantly obvious were patentable. But I guess if you're crApple you can get anything patented.
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The patent they are talking about was applied for back in 1996 and granted in 1999. It is for clicking on a recognizable text string and bringing up a menu or performing a UI action. So, yes, clicking on a telephone number will no longer bring up the dialer, or clicking on an email address will not bring up the email app, etc. Which I think is ****ing bull****. It's common sense that when I click on a telephone number it brings up the dialer. Who wouldnt think of that? I didnt think things that were blatantly obvious were patentable. But I guess if you're crApple you can get anything patented.
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real question is how did they remove this, so the devs can add it back.
thats what we do best here.
I'm sure the judge has an iPhone and they probably pay him off with free iproducts for life to find in their favor. That's how apple wins
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badogg said:
Yikes. I don't care for Apple personally, but I certainly don't wish death upon anyone.
If they really have patents on their technology, then they are doing the right thing by protecting their intellectual property. You just can't go around stealing other peoples stuff. I'm not saying HTC or Samsung or anyone else stole anything, just saying that IF they did - then they are facing their consequences.
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This patent crap has gotten out of control. This is basically how computers work.
Imagine on your home computer, clicking on a link in xda and it doesn't open, just highlights it, then you have to copy and paste to go to that page.
Why would apple be given a patent for this? Its ridiculous and HTC has ALREADY removed the feature from their phones so the fact that they are still blocking them is asinine.
http://www.dailytech.com/Game+Over+...uition+as+ITC+Blocks+Imports/article24691.htm
That's a more informative article talking about the actual patents and the absurdity of this whole situation... Apple really disgusts me...
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This patent crap has gotten out of control. This is basically how computers work.
Imagine on your home computer, clicking on a link in xda and it doesn't open, just highlights it, then you have to copy and paste to go to that page.
Why would apple be given a patent for this? Its ridiculous and HTC has ALREADY removed the feature from their phones so the fact that they are still blocking them is asinine.
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Oh I agree, but that is for the courts to decide. I think it needs to be more in-depth. Like prove that the programming code was stolen or something. Not just that the end result is the same. Kind of like prescription drugs. There are the brand names that have the rights to it, and then there are generics that are the same thing but branded differently.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/06/25/google-tries-to-block-u-s-shipments-of-apples-iphone-over-3g-patents/
About time Google plays Apple's game, give them a taste of their own medicine. Official decision coming August 24th.
i love the part about costing americans jobs.... how does it cost americans their jobs?
bacidath said:
i love the part about costing americans jobs.... how does it cost americans their jobs?
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Yeah no doubt. I was scratching my head on this one too.
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i love the part about costing americans jobs.... how does it cost americans their jobs?
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Thieves can't steal iPhones/iPads and resell them ?
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Thieves can't steal iPhones/iPads and resell them ?
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Ohhhh, I see now!
I hope Apple gets what's coming to them.
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I hope it happens. apple has a ton of bad karma coming its way imo...
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i love the part about costing americans jobs.... how does it cost americans their jobs?
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I wonder how many Americans lost their jobs when apple stopped HTC shipment????
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Wall of text, TL;DR.
And so it begins, an even more pointless back and forth between two incredibly successful companies. It's never going to end.
I don't get bgr and their apple fanaticism. I like android but I'm not making up crap in support of it like I hear almost everyday about apple.
Just makes me laugh how stupid it is. Hope google gives then a swift kick in the nuts. Bc chocolate chip ice cream sandwich offers virtual reality synch and the new google maps will navigate ur car so u don't have to drive. Will also support Brainwave V3.2x that plugs in your skull so u will never have to talk to anyone ever again. You talk w ur brain!
Gonna be so awesome! Suck it ios 6!
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This is BGR twisting headlines around. Google hasn't even filed and injunction.
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This is BGR twisting headlines around. Google hasn't even filed and injunction.
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I like how the dolt updates it with "Well it's not really google doing it" but leaves the headline intact.
I really need to not click on those links. I don't want that idiot's site to get credit for a single page view from me.
Apples at it again.
They just got a judge to block sales of galaxy nexus. Even before trial. Appl has to post a bond before court will enforce the injunction.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/30/apple-lawsuit-samsung-galaxy-nexus_n_1639180.html
I can't even muster up all the HATE apple deserves. I mean, doing this to GNex is essentially trying to stop the android experience altogether.
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Apples at it again.
They just got a judge to block sales of galaxy nexus. Even before trial. Appl has to post a bond before court will enforce the injunction.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/30/apple-lawsuit-samsung-galaxy-nexus_n_1639180.html
I can't even muster up all the HATE apple deserves. I mean, doing this to GNex is essentially trying to stop the android experience altogether.
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Is this not reason enough for Google to destroy them? Damn, Google pull the trigger already
The LTEVO says hello!
If anyone thanks Apple doesn't have tech writers on their payroll they are living in an ifantasy world. Apple plays hardball. About time Google did
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I can't stand Apple and I hope this causes them delays and headaches, just the way it did with us getting our EVO 4G LTE's.
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If you guys really think that by having "an all out war" benefits the consumer, you've lost your minds.
You know all that talk about how Apple doesn't innovate because they are busy suing? Well, if Google joined in, who would innovate?
Think before you get all childish revenge rage syndrome. All this will work out.
Am I glad this is happening? No. I'm not, but I wouldn't be happy if Google blocked the iPhone either. Competition is good, and stiffling it, NO MATTER WHO DOES IT, is bad.
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If you guys really think that by having "an all out war" benefits the consumer, you've lost your minds.
You know all that talk about how Apple doesn't innovate because they are busy suing? Well, if Google joined in, who would innovate?
Think before you get all childish revenge rage syndrome. All this will work out.
Am I glad this is happening? No. I'm not, but I wouldn't be happy if Google blocked the iPhone either. Competition is good, and stiffling it, NO MATTER WHO DOES IT, is bad.
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There is such a thing as defending your business. If Google, htc, Motorola and Samsung do nothing that would be incredibly stupid. Apple will not cease there endless litigation unless companies make it just as difficult for them. Sorry but you don't sound very informed on the subject.
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There is such a thing as defending your business. If Google, htc, Motorola and Samsung do nothing that would be incredibly stupid. Apple will not cease there endless litigation unless companies make it just as difficult for them. Sorry but you don't sound very informed on the subject.
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I understand defending your business, and I'm not against litigation by any stretch, but the calls for Google to "destroy" Apple is what I was talking about.
But apply that to Apple as well. Don't you see them as defending their business? So how is what they are doing "evil"? I just don't understand the Apple hatred. This is business as usual, it's just getting press this time.
Here is the link. Please let you voice and displeasure be heard!!!!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/enable-multi-view-multi-window-for-north-america/
lol
Lol, nice.
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not to sound like a total douche, but what do you think the petition will accomplish? I mean we already gave them money, most of us are still locked into a contract. Neither Sammy or AT&T have any reason to accommodate us.
Dunno, just my thoughts.
Devs are hard at work on it... and I am sure it will come much, much faster than a silly petition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41125683&postcount=40
Just trying to have a little fun fellas ...:laugh:
Do I really think Samsung will listen? You never know
However I do have more faith in XDA Devs than Samsung and AT&T for getting this feature turned on for us.
At least has being proactive (even though nothing will come from this) instead of whining about it and opening thread after thread.
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Let him do his thing, you never know.
My boss got a 15k bill written off from a Vegas Hotel, how you may ask? By complaining. Go ahead man do your thing.
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Let him do his thing, you never know.
My boss got a 15k bill written off from a Vegas Hotel, how you may ask? By complaining. Go ahead man do your thing.
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15K?!? I didn't know you can put hookers on your tab
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Kids basketball team tournament.
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At least has being proactive (even though nothing will come from this) instead of whining about it and opening thread after thread.
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Even though nothing will come from this ..................you don't know that pockets
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Well, before the fervor over the JB release, the reason we didn't have multiview was our video hardware limitation.
But I have used ICS apps with floating windows, so at least that's possible.
Thanks - signed the petition. I cant believe they could ding us like this. Our device is not even that old to begin with cmon Samsung dont shortchange your customers.
True Shane if I could tell the future I'd be a far richer man then I am now
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to discourage the op I like the fact that he is trying to help we need more of that round here. But petitions take a long time and the results are mix see blamesamsung. I think that before we have any action at this ptmr3 big or nun will get it done. so yes I don't know
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True Shane if I could tell the future I'd be a far richer man then I am now
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to discourage the op I like the fact that he is trying to help we need more of that round here. But petitions take a long time and the results are mix see blamesamsung. I think that before we have any action at this ptmr3 big or nun will get it done. so yes I don't know
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Totally agree with you .......we saw how petitions work with the whole unlocking our device thing .. I'm sure everyone remembers that
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Gotta Be Mobile article
Still having fun...petition got mentioned in this article...
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/05/08/att-galaxy-note-jelly-bean-problems/
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Kids basketball team tournament.
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This is all besides the point, but this feature was promised to us so we should get what was promised and as far as i know misguiding people or misleading them to believe something is for sure just to make a sale is against the law, anyways that is what happened to me. Hopefully they are forced into this.
In the first place the international device was updated with the enact same thing (Jellybean 4.1.2 Update) only they did in fact receive multiwindow on their device. What is the problem? why is this such a complicated thing for them to do? if they did it for one device they should be able to do it with our American Version device. I think they get Customers hopes up, show them how the multitasking/multiwindow would perform on their device, and most importantly what exactly is multitasking and the benefit of the feature. Then you have numerous customers that are very interested and eager on having this feature, but personally i think they do it on purpose so they can force customers to buy a more expensive device that is mufti-window compatible. Just to get them into another phone that's more expensive and to get as much money out of them as quickly as they can, that's how i see it, why else would they have such a big issue putting it on our device? i'm sure it's not nearly as impossible as they are making it seem.
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This is all besides the point, but this feature was promised to us so we should get what was promised and as far as i know misguiding people or misleading them to believe something is for sure just to make a sale is against the law, anyways that is what happened to me. Hopefully they are forced into this.
In the first place the international device was updated with the enact same thing (Jellybean 4.1.2 Update) only they did in fact receive multiwindow on their device. What is the problem? why is this such a complicated thing for them to do? if they did it for one device they should be able to do it with our American Version device. I think they get Customers hopes up, show them how the multitasking/multiwindow would perform on their device, and most importantly what exactly is multitasking and the benefit of the feature. Then you have numerous customers that are very interested and eager on having this feature, but personally i think they do it on purpose so they can force customers to buy a more expensive device that is mufti-window compatible. Just to get them into another phone that's more expensive and to get as much money out of them as quickly as they can, that's how i see it, why else would they have such a big issue putting it on our device? i'm sure it's not nearly as impossible as they are making it seem.
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Show me where on Samsung's website, their official press release of the update or the product page that says we were to get multi-window.
Just because sites reported it but were wrong does not make it a promise from Samsung. SamMobile is not Samsing and doesn't report on their behalf.
So no false advertising is present. Samsung did not mis-represent nothing. It was 3rd party websites that made the error. So the claim against them would be thrown out on that alone.
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You're refuting a, what appears to be roughly 16 year old girl, with logic. As someone who's paid to teach 16 year old girls, I can tell you, your task is futile.
^^^^ Lmao
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Big brother yay
http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order
*sorry for extremely long subject title haha
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Big brother yay
http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2013/jun/06/nsa-phone-records-verizon-court-order
*sorry for extremely long subject title haha
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That is ridiculous.. government.. no the constitution has no say anymore.. I'd like to see the jackass who spun words on how this is reasonable. Or that we the people have no reasonable expectation of privacy regarding our phones which very personal matters revolve around.
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That is ridiculous.. government.. no the constitution has no say anymore.. I'd like to see the jackass who spun words on how this is reasonable. Or that we the people have no reasonable expectation of privacy regarding our phones which very personal matters revolve around.
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Sshh!! Big Brother's watching!
Says top secret court order! LOL If it was top secret, would not know about it. Duh!!!!!
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Hey I'm all for it if it helps catch "bad guys" and junk. If you're not doing anything illegal who cares. Do what ya gotta do to catch the jerks. I for one am sick and tired of people getting away with junk, it's ultimately costing all of us.
It's worth noting that there's nothing in the article that indicates that they don't have similar orders in place for other carriers. The Verizon order is the one that leaked, but it would seem that given the breadth of the order, it's probably not VZW specific. The others just haven't been leaked at this point.
I don't personally lose a lot of sleep over this, but I can understand the concern on this. I do think that an order this broad is excessive.
I'm sure it's not just Verizon
I love the "if you're not doing anything, nothing to worry about" argument. No, I'm not doing anything. And it's because of that fact that no one should be building a database on who I call and for how long and where. People just don't get it... How far will it go? When does it stop? Should every person walking the streets be subject to search at any given time because "we might get a bad guy"
Sorry, but I don't do anything wrong. I'm a simple family man who enjoys sports and tech. And I am bothered by my government spying on me and my fellow citizen for no reason at all.
The article states, the conversations weren't recorded, but that's next. And how would you feel if some computer somewhere is recording you talking dirty to your wife? Or whatever, insert whatever you want there.
This isn't right. And it's scary.
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Says top secret court order! LOL If it was top secret, would not know about it. Duh!!!!!
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Thank god for whistle blowers/leakers. Without them, we WOULDN'T know about this.
Funny too how Obama is massively cracking down on whistle blowers...
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Hey I'm all for it if it helps catch "bad guys" and junk. If you're not doing anything illegal who cares. Do what ya gotta do to catch the jerks. I for one am sick and tired of people getting away with junk, it's ultimately costing all of us.
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So you are ok with say, at any random time, your door being kicked in and your house searched without a warrant? By your logic, someone somewhere is in a house doing bad things, so we should just search every house whenever we want.
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Apparently there is a rumor of a class action lawsuit against Verizon for compensation as well as contact cancellations Etf free..
Of course it will probably go no where because of the federal wire tap law hu ha bull****.
This Country that we are growing up in and supporting with our taxes cares not about us but soley about is control of the country.
Oddly enough Verizon most likely never put up a fight to this. Verizon license their air waves from the federal government.. as with their lte service and upcoming aws service they are leasing it from the govt. Makes since if you think about it..
Govt. Says if you want the best airwaves from us to Make you the number one provider we expect from you in return to allow us to collect millions of users call data ..
Well that's all I got for now till the govt. Pisses me off again
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Apparently there is a rumor of a class action lawsuit against Verizon for compensation as well as contact cancellations Etf free..
Of course it will probably go no where because of the federal wire tap law hu ha bull****.
This Country that we are growing up in and supporting with our taxes cares not about us but soley about is control of the country.
Oddly enough Verizon most likely never put up a fight to this. Verizon license their air waves from the federal government.. as with their lte service and upcoming aws service they are leasing it from the govt. Makes since if you think about it..
Govt. Says if you want the best airwaves from us to Make you the number one provider we expect from you in return to allow us to collect millions of users call data ..
Well that's all I got for now till the govt. Pisses me off again
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All airwaves are "leased" from the FCC. I deal with radio communications. Fire and law enforcement were pushed onto the 800MHz spectrum about 10 years ago. Now the FCC wants them to move to the 700MHz spectrum so they can lease the 800MHz to cell phone carriers. Tax payers pay for the equipment needed to make this change which isn't cheap.
All the complaints I heard about google snooping on your WiFi are nothing compared to our own government snooping on every spectrum out there.No communication is sacred unless it is face to face.
The extreme would be to go back to basics of a land line so your location couldn't be tracked. And not using any social media sites or forums. How far are you willing to go?
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I'm sure it's not just Verizon
I love the "if you're not doing anything, nothing to worry about" argument. No, I'm not doing anything. And it's because of that fact that no one should be building a database on who I call and for how long and where. People just don't get it... How far will it go? When does it stop? Should every person walking the streets be subject to search at any given time because "we might get a bad guy"
Sorry, but I don't do anything wrong. I'm a simple family man who enjoys sports and tech. And I am bothered by my government spying on me and my fellow citizen for no reason at all.
The article states, the conversations weren't recorded, but that's next. And how would you feel if some computer somewhere is recording you talking dirty to your wife? Or whatever, insert whatever you want there.
This isn't right. And it's scary.
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Maybe this all a scheme to get us back to using snail mail. That would boost the USPS revenues! /Sarcasm off
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Funny too how Obama is massively cracking down on whistle blowers...
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There's a difference between whistleblowers and people who just dump classified info.
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What I find more disturbing is how ok a lot of people are with our constitutional rights being blatantly violated by the government under the guise of they might catch a boogeyman. The point isn't "if I'm not doing anything wrong, I have nothing to worry about, so I don't care". The point is the lower level implications that the government is wiretapping us without a warrant for us individually without just cause. They cannot do that according to the constitution, and there should be impeachment implications over it AFAIC. Same goes for the second amendment. You might not like it, but it is our right - constitutionally - to be able to own firearms. Like I said, I'm troubled by how many people are just ok with our rights be stripped of us. Rights that make us American, that made us the free people we were.
I wonder how much more intrusion, how much more erosion of our rights it is going to take before the American people revolt and tell them to back the eff off. I don't think we are those kinds of people any more sadly. We are not the people with the spine to stand up to big brother to defend our freedoms from an overreaching government. Myself included - I know I don't have that in me.
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There's a difference between whistleblowers and people who just dump classified info.
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That is literally the same thing. Bradley Manning dumped classified info. He is labeled a whistleblower. As far as Obama and his admin are concerned, they are one in the same.
The war party started this under Bush with the Patriot Act. U can thank all those who got them in power for what is happening today. Know ur history.
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The war party started this under Bush with the Patriot Act. U can thank all those who got them in power for what is happening today. Know ur history.
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While true, the Patriot Act was extended by congress and signed by the president that is sitting in office right now. They had a chance to let it die, and didn't. Now it is all on them for what we have today from that Patriot Act POS when they should have let it die out.
The government likes to use the argument that "they (we) are still looking for terrorists." This argument is now void. Seriously, we stopped trying to end terrorism years ago. We cannot possibly still think that our government is still trying to do this. They are constantly getting into our private lives like it is nothing.
Look, I am a soldier in the United States Army, and I do not see myself ever going into some senators house and going through his documents because I can. That is exactly what they are doing to me! I have nothing to hide. Just do not go through my personal life. I guarantee that they would not like it if I went through their personal lives. LEAVE MY VERIZON RECORDS ALONE!
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While true, the Patriot Act was extended by congress and signed by the president that is sitting in office right now. They had a chance to let it die, and didn't. Now it is all on them for what we have today from that Patriot Act POS when they should have let it die out.
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Just saw on news that this survelance has prevented a major terrorist attacks on US soil, or so they claim.
Guess the Bostom bombers were using MetroPCS! LOL
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The war party started this under Bush with the Patriot Act. U can thank all those who got them in power for what is happening today. Know ur history.
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dude, are you serious?
learn the facts, and then speak. you just sound ignorant here.
read what badogg said; it's 100% true. all these politicians are exactly the same, and the most disgusting part of it is people like you who claim "oh bush was the bad guy wah wah wah" but then you think it's perfectly okay when obama does it. absolutely pathetic. the citizens of this country are just as much to blame as the government, since they're the ones who voted these idiots in.