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Has anyone bothered to try and use the Touch Pro with their "1x Unlimited Mobile Browser" plan? I know that Bell tries to sell the user on their "Email and Internet" "data" plans when this phone is purchased, but the phone is capable of 1x so there is no reason why the 1x mobile browser shouldnt work unless they disable it on your account when they set this phone up (which they shouldnt if its part of your current contract). I've never had to pay any extra with my Unlimited Mobile Browser plan and I've used my phone for more than just web browsing. I've used it for streaming media, downloading from my ftp server at home, connecting to various servers using 3rd part apps, email, etc. Hell, I've even tethered once or twice downloading a few MB of data and not been charged.
I'm wanting to get this phone but I really dont want to give up my sweet corporate account just to use the data. Thankfully it has wifi so I'll be able to use the net regardless of my data/mobile browser plan.
They wouldn't let me sign up with the Unlimited Mobile Browser, they said that its not compatible. It seems to be an option online but not in the store or over the phone. I argued with them about this but they woudn't budge.
daveloft said:
They wouldn't let me sign up with the Unlimited Mobile Browser, they said that its not compatible. It seems to be an option online but not in the store or over the phone. I argued with them about this but they woudn't budge.
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I'm betting because it works just fine on the unlimited browser plan. The friggin thing has wifi, not EVERYONE will need a data plan for it.
I've actually started a thread at forum.bell.ca asking the same thing... we'll see what their response is...
http://forums.bell.ca/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=321&sid=084842dcba10b12552284596cb8fe64d
Its lame, my friend has the old HTC Touch and has the Fun 15 bundle. He gets voicemail, call display, unlimited text messaging and unlimited mobile browsing for $15.
I have the same Fun 15 bundle but they got me paying an extra $30 for the unlimited data plan. We use the phone for all the same things. Opera browsing, You Tube, Messenger, Email.
Were using the same services and I'm paying 3 times as much because they classify the phone differently. The bell rep I talked to agreed its bullsh*t but thats just the way it is.
I'm almost half tempted to just try using a touch pro with my current plan... just to see if they're bluffing or not. Now I too have the "1x Unlimited Mobile Browser" but for me it's built into my plan and doesn't even come up as a removable option under my features. But here's the kicker: my current phone is, though 3 years old, an EV-DO phone (Samsung SPH-A920) that can manage data either in 1x or EV-DO mode. (Though technically the network is called 1xEV-DO... but that's not the point!) I don't pay anything extra for when I use my internet when it's in a EV-DO region (I'm in Edmonton). Did a little test and downloaded Google maps, took about 20 seconds for 420KB (~21KB/sec) daveloft, I'm curious what speeds you can get with the "unlimited data plan" and if the "special" data servers make a difference
I'm in Toronto and I got about 1MB downloaded using Google Maps in 20 seconds.
Can you change IMEI from a Touch?
When i bought my touch pro from bell the rep told me it would work on mobile browser. i called bell and they said that i had to buy the data plan. 5 minutes of *****ing and they gave me a $20 discount so now i dont mind. i hate how every person you talk to with bell tells you something different. luckily it worked out ok for me this time but i feel your pain.
I Tried
I have my Touch Pro from Sprint activated on MTS-Bells Partner, before this I had the vouge I activated and the guy did not change my plan so I should still have 1x data in the EPST this is confirmed we entered the exact settings in every field that is in the EPST altho there is a couple new fields in the Touch Pro and try and try as I might still no data... only thro wifi. It works fine for a phone and texting but the data will not connect. His explanation was that the touch was built with a different hardware configuration that will allow for a "Fun" package.. Whatever that ment he said the Touch Pro no matter what we do just can not be configured to allow that type of simple connection for data it must have a A Key inserted to function.
I have not yet given up as I think that if I had a stock BELL shipped rom to flash [that would give me a new Bell PRI and PRL firmware update] it may work as I am now using a HTC Touch PRL from my vogue with a PRI from the original Sprint... the sprint PRL works as well but I was constantly in roaming mode... no data in any combination... tried every possible thing I could and I am big on problem solving..... no luck... (
I have Froyo running from SD card on TP. I'm on a old retention family plan with unlimited txt, data etc at evdo speed. When I use the phone it shows
3g as the speed connection. Per the Sprint CS reps, my "plan is not compatable" with the new phones offered and I will need to get a new plan (ie.. everything $69) to be able to use a newer phone with the faster data speeds. (I know this is BS). My question to all of you is;
1. If my phone is using the 3g network, can sprint find out the actual data speed my phone is using?
2. If they do find out I'm using the faster data network that my plan doesn't offer, what will/can they do to me for it?
Sorry if this is a lame question but I don't want to give up my old plan and do enjoy using Froyo on my TP. Once I can afford a more expensive plan I'll probably go with the EVO or what ever comes after it.
Come on everyone. 100 views and no replys? I want to continue to use Froyo on my Touch Pro but don't want to get burned by Sprint for using their 3g network when all I'm contracted for is evdo. Any one have a clue? Thanks.
I have the same issue, old retention plan with unlimited data included, but "incompatible" with newer phones. I have been testing out xdandroid builds for a few months now without any issues related to billing. I don't think sprint can tell.
It's conceivable that Sprint could monitor their data network watching for Android activation requests from "non-Android" phones (various GSM carriers have been known to do this).
But, to the best of anyone's knowledge, they don't. I've run a Vogue with Android for almost a year (and briefly run Froyo on my Touch Pro) without issue, and so have countless others.
The "speed" thing is a moot point - there are even dumbphones with EV-DO.
I wouldn't worry about it.
Sprint doesnt have 3G, they have EV-DO. 3G is a GSM speed format. Also, i doubt unless you are pulling down 5gigs of data a month they would even say anything. At that point it would be apparent that you are tethering. I routinely pull down 500megs + with normal browsing. Never been asked anything.
CDMA 3G is typically known as EVDO rev A, and common among most phones these days.
the actual data rate you pull is throttled by your carrier, and not controlled by your phone.
tethering is typically discovered due to a registry setting specifically forcing a new data connection for the tethered device separate from the phone data.
They probably can but they wont bother with you unless you are a top tear data user.
As the Thread title suggests, i would like to know what the best UK network for the S2 is? I have an order on hold with orange at the moment for £35p/m
after screening the forums a little bit it seems that orange isnt the best network provider to go with, because although coverage is great, their network speeds are rubbish...what would you guys recommend in terms of best network provider for this phone?
ps bear in mind i am in the london and braintree areas quite a lot
the million pound question??. Am O2 I think internet speed rubbish I have never seen 3g icon on my screen lol
as far as i have been able to read, vodaphone seem to utilize the s2's networking capabilities best,
reading on the general section, i found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14400787&postcount=30
in the thread "SGS2 now available on orange UK"
which made me wonder - three mobile seem to have good deals for cheapness....£26pm gets you a free phone, 1gb data, unlim texts etc, so i would go for them, however the network speed is something i have recently been coveting....anyone had any speedtests done while on three?
Well my contract with orange UK (that you wont be able to match as I am a special customer....very long story...) is
Dolphin 35 + 1gb extra data for £20 a month 18 month contract with a free SGS2
Just waiting for the SGS2 to be ordered as they screwed up!!!!
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Well my contract with orange UK (that you wont be able to match as I am a special customer....very long story...) is
Dolphin 35 + 1gb extra data for £20 a month 18 month contract with a free SGS2
Just waiting for the SGS2 to be ordered as they screwed up!!!!
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im jealous i must admit, but what about networking speeds? or do you cope just fine with the speeds as they are? this phone is capable of loading faster than most home broadbands if i believe what iv been told...i cant tell what speeds i have as my hd2 wont connect to the internet - hardware issue :/
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Well my contract with orange UK (that you wont be able to match as I am a special customer....very long story...) is
Dolphin 35 + 1gb extra data for £20 a month 18 month contract with a free SGS2
Just waiting for the SGS2 to be ordered as they screwed up!!!!
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Thpefial? (Sorry - couldn't resist...)
Best network is relative to signal strength in the areas of phone use for each network .
Data its always said that 3 are best for data true not a clue .
http://selfhelp.carphonewarehouse.com/SelfHelp/request.do?view%28%29=c{179c7460-e8a9-11de-da00-000000000000}
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Three are the only network that offer truly unlimited data on the one plan with a free phone for £40 I think. I've seen my mate's speedtest with a Desire HD consistently hitting 9+ mb the past month as they've activated the HSPA+ network. Three's signal is crap indoors though, due to the part of the spectrum they use not penetrating buildings well (so I'm told).
I'm on O2 (central London), I'm guaranteed H or H+ signals, consistently above 3 mbps.
Well, if you care about heavy duty data usage, go with 3 (So long as you're in an area with decent signal - it gets a bit ropy up north).
I'm with 3UK, purely for the genuinely unlimited data (although I've been with them for years and always went over the 1gb limit without charge before), in London their speeds are great, usually have a ping under 100, down of 3-5 in perfect conditions, up of 1-1.5 (via the SpeedTest app)
I will say in the area i live (oxfordshie) 3 is exelent,i get hsdpa just about every where. I get 5700 on speed test app at work-on vodafone and orange i get 20
three mobile it is then i will go to the three store and pick it up (because i cannot wait for it to be delivered lol) once i get my new bank card and PIN code through
Yup, I'm on Three also and whilst their results vary (I get anywhere from 0.11 to 5.14Mbps Download speed here in Cumbria!) the main selling point for me is truly unlimited data on the One Plan with tethering allowed! There may be others offering true unlimited data (talkmobile? Giff Gaff?) but I don't think others allow tethering... I should note they acknowledge that they throttle their data at peek times (6pm to midnight) but I'd be surprised if other networks don't do the same, and my data speeds are generally fine.
I'm on 3 and its crap indoors. Do get 3g a lot. I buy the fone instead of contract because u pay for another fone as the contracts are like 2 year plans. Im on a SIM contract for 15 quid and get 600mins 1 gb internet 3000texts which is good but hate the signal
I was with three but dropped them because of awful building penetration, their signal is just rubbish indoors which was no good to me at work when my phone spent all day trying to cling onto a scrap of signal. I could receive texts at my desk but if I moved the phone or tryed a voice call it would drop signal altogether.
Moved to Orange, very happy now. Speeds aren't as fast as Three for data but come on, what are you doing running torrents off your phone or something?
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come on, what are you doing running torrents off your phone or something?
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Pretty much, yeah. Long commute, if someone tells me about a good film at work.. Piracy is a way of life
I have been using gophone service for the last year or so and it's so epensive. My mother on the other hand has been paying 45 bucks for unlimited talk/text. I pay 60 bucks a month for a 2gb data unlimited tet/talk package + 2 gig's of add'l data (80-90 bucks total a month)...She just got this 45 dollar package that contains 4 sim card's (2 micro/standard sim cards & 2 nano sim cards). Well I got her phone working (it wasnt hard, it's not a smartphone)..I used a micro-sim card, inserted it into the slot...The phone tells me to reboot so I did..I expect to see bars or something but nothing happens. I than went to the apn settings and it has att, att phone, att broadband, att lte, straight talk & straight talk.mnvo...None of them work and all of them are forcing me back to the 3g selection instead of LTE preferred...How can I active a sim card that isnt showing me the right apns to give my phone (lg optimus g e970) data ? I really have no desires to go back to at&t go phone service....ST would give me 2.5 gb of high speed data + unlimited data/text for 45 bucks a month (a big difference in money)....once you use up the 2.5 gb of data it switches to using 2g data for data....when you use all your data with gophone, you have to buy another 1gb data package (10 bucks)...I dont have wifi....
You may wanna be concise in your description of issues. Too much unrelated stuff mixed in, my eyes are losing track
Try this:
Name: straight talk
APN: tfdata
MMSC: http://mms-tf.net
MMS PROXY: mms3.tracfone.com
MMS PORT: 80
MMS:80
Authentication type: PAP
APN type: default,supl,mms,hipri
Also you may need to call straight talk to activate the sims
yeah that apn was already included, I selected it. I went back to the mobile settings menu and selected LTE as preferred than pressed the back button. I went back to mobile settings and it was on 3g...No bars, ...I guess I do need to call ST just to activate the card...the pack my mother got contains onlye 1 service pin card but comes with 4 different sim cards (all with different serial numbers)...I really thought Id be able to stick the sim card in my phone and it show me if I actually get 4g LTE service on this phone thru ST...I didnt want to pay the 45 or 60 bucks for a plan for it to not work than have to pay an additional 60 bucks for ATT go phone service. When ST did not work...I did check the compatibility thru the straight talk website. It did say the phone was compatible with the e970. If you have a 4g LTE phone, wouldnt you want 4g LTE and not just 3g or HSPA+
I'm on straight talk too. You get att 4g lte with straight talk on this phone
This isn't a shared plan, you and you mom can't both use one 45 dollars plan. If your mom use a dumb phone she can use the All You Need plan through straight talk, which is even cheaper than this.
Also don't get too excited, the 4g lte you get through straight talk isn't gonna be as fast as att customers.
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I'm on straight talk too. You get att 4g lte with straight talk on this phone
This isn't a shared plan, you and you mom can't both use one 45 dollars plan. If your mom use a dumb phone she can use the All You Need plan through straight talk, which is even cheaper than this.
Also don't get too excited, the 4g lte you get through straight talk isn't gonna be as fast as att customers.
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Im not sure Ive ever heard that before, but thanks for the heads up...I guess Ill stick with att go phone. So why did you choose straight talk and not att go phone ? the only reason I was thinking about getting ST was b/c of the 2.5 gb's of data given to the 45/60 buck plan and the fact that you still have data when you've used up the 2.5 gig's...With att go phone, you get 2 gb's with the 60 dollar plan...You have a choice of buying an additional 1gb package of 10 dollars...So say tommorrow when I get paid...Ill end up having 4 gb's of data...but all of that data is a constant speed, there is no cap on speed....I watch what I download, dont usually download anything over 10mb's when using data....Ive watched porn a few times (streams) but im not sure how much data is used to stream a short clip or a continuous stream....I know FB is a huge data hog, so I try to limit my time on FB...There is wifi around my neighborhood but I only use it when Im downloading roms
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Im not sure Ive ever heard that before, but thanks for the heads up...I guess Ill stick with att go phone. So why did you choose straight talk and not att go phone ? the only reason I was thinking about getting ST was b/c of the 2.5 gb's of data given to the 45/60 buck plan and the fact that you still have data when you've used up the 2.5 gig's...With att go phone, you get 2 gb's with the 60 dollar plan...You have a choice of buying an additional 1gb package of 10 dollars...So say tommorrow when I get paid...Ill end up having 4 gb's of data...but all of that data is a constant speed, there is no cap on speed....I watch what I download, dont usually download anything over 10mb's when using data....Ive watched porn a few times (streams) but im not sure how much data is used to stream a short clip or a continuous stream....I know FB is a huge data hog, so I try to limit my time on FB...There is wifi around my neighborhood but I only use it when Im downloading roms
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I had go phone long time ago. It was expensive so got rid of it for virgin mobile. Their beyond talk plan is 35, 300 minutes was not enough anymore, also tired of cdma phone so switched to ST. With ST you still get 2.5 gbs of data and unlimited 2g data after 2.5 is exhausted. The saving is what's real, man. Looks like you also work, so I'm sure you understand this. Prepare myself for an hour on the phone with ST retards if your switching your # over too
I stuck with at&t gophone....might do the switch later down the road..no idea, start college in may...do minds focused on that and everything
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Also don't get too excited, the 4g lte you get through straight talk isn't gonna be as fast as att customers.
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It is here. I compared my ST speeds to two coworkers AT&T LTE phones last month. (Yeah, we're reeeeaaal productive some days.) Using the same servers, my speeds were nearly identical to one S4 and we were both a hair faster than a Samsung Note (3?) that we borrowed for the test.
All three were much faster than I was getting with a T-mo SIM for Simple Mobile, whether on LTE or or not. I'm leary of anything at Walmart, and I did have issues signing up and porting my number, but I've been happy with my three months on ST, especially after seeing more consistent coverage when travelling. I was mostly happy with T-Mo's network before I had an LTE-capable phone, but I'll stick to ST/AT&T.
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I just put in a tmobile sim card in my HDx 7. I was under the impression that data would only flow when you registered with tmobile for either a postpaid tablet plan or the prepaid data for tablet that can be the 200 mb free or add more to that.
I have data flowing without signing up for anything. I can connect to aol, amazon, and stream music. Is this uncommon? As long as I have free data I'm not going to sign up for anything. I don't have a tmobile account so I don't think they can charge me?? Any feedback?
It came with an att sim. That also connected to data, but I didn't check if I could access anything. I switched to the tmobile sim.
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Alas.....free data has run it's course. Had to sign up today. But since it's free, no problem.
Speed?
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I just put in a tmobile sim card in my HDx 7. I was under the impression that data would only flow when you registered with tmobile for either a postpaid tablet plan or the prepaid data for tablet that can be the 200 mb free or add more to that.
I have data flowing without signing up for anything. I can connect to aol, amazon, and stream music. Is this uncommon? As long as I have free data I'm not going to sign up for anything. I don't have a tmobile account so I don't think they can charge me?? Any feedback?
It came with an att sim. That also connected to data, but I didn't check if I could access anything. I switched to the tmobile sim.
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Alas.....free data has run it's course. Had to sign up today. But since it's free, no problem.
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Hi,
What kind of speed were you getting with your t-mobile data? Does this tab have all the T-mobile 4G and LTE band?
Thanks
dinkk007 said:
Hi,
What kind of speed were you getting with your t-mobile data? Does this tab have all the T-mobile 4G and LTE band?
Thanks
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I never thought to test but for you I did!
I have t-mobile lte in the status bar. I ran OOkla speedtest/speedtest.net and here are the results.
ping- 40 ms DL-11.62 mbps UP- 20.90 (wow!) Why the upload speed is twice that of the DL speed is weird. I only ran it once since I only have 200 mb free plan. I'll check how much data that used.
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After using the speedtest app, t-mobile never deducted any data from my 200mb free. Weird. It's been almost a week. Data should have updated by now.
Wow that's not bad at all. Thanks for the info. I might just consider getting one of these now that they're on sale.
dinkk007 said:
Wow that's not bad at all. Thanks for the info. I might just consider getting one of these now that they're on sale.
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I just want to add I am in North Jersey which has great tmobile service. The only problem is what you expect with the 1700 band which is no signal deep into big buildings, like the back of Shoprite, or costco. Stuff like that. I haven't tested tmo lte since I switched back to att with my family for my cellphone. I don't lose att service in shoprite or costco, so there is a difference. But both use band 4 lte, so they should perform the same.
I have a question for other lte kindle users. Is it possible to enable sms on the kindle hdx 7 via data? Outside of whatsapp or GV over wifi. I know there was a work around for the nexus 7 lte that allowed sms but not mms.
Call over data would be great but I don't think that is going to happen. Talkatone, GV, skype will have to do.
Talkatone has reconfigured their set up that use to use GV as a go between. GV is no longer involved. I got an email giving 30 min. of call out time to re sign up with their new talkatone. You get a telephone number, and 10 free minutes to call out, with an additional 10 to link your cell number and facebook acct. They said this is to make sure you are a real person, but.....I have enough stuff demanding you sign in with your facebook acct. I don't need anymore. I'll stick with 10 free. You can buy 60 min. for $0.99. That's $0.0165 per min. or approx. 1.5 cents per minute. And their customer service is superb. They got back to me in 24 hrs via email, and stayed with me till I got all my various accounts sorted out. They were following up my emails within 30 min to an hour.
And it's free!
Anyway to enable sms on this tab?
I just got a data sim off ebay. $12, t-mo with 1gb lte, then drops to 3g unlimited till the end of the month and unlimited texting. This sim had 6 months prepaid for your $12. Just wondering if I can use the texting on my kindle lte. Assuming I did not get ripped off that is! lol. Seller had 100% positive feedback with lots of transactions.
Can this tablet be hacked to get sms working? I read somewhere someone has incoming working, but not outgoing.
Google searched and nothing comes up. Not anywhere.